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February 19, 2016 at 4:38 pm #96537k8tyBParticipant
Hi everyone, here I am sharing again because of the way my relationship has me feeling ,I am rather fed up at the moment and feel the need to vent. I got engaged back in mid December and I thought I was supposed to be on cloud nine but I have never been so unhappy in my life and its taken a while me to face the truth of that statement as when I met my fiancé I really fell head over heels and as time passed I wanted things to work . I feel like a fool as I have been ignoring a lot of stuff .
My fiancé always seems to be angry hurt or disappointed about something or another , he twists my words and is always seem to want me to agree with everything he says. There has been many times that we would have a disagreement , sometimes I would only have to say something he doesn’t like and he wouldn’t talk to me for two or three days, ignoring my texts or calls . I tried to explain to him how this makes me feel and try to keep communication open. If I try to talk to him when he’s in a mood he tells me I am trying to minimise the situation if I don’t try to talk to him he tells me that I am dismissing him and I have “left him in it”. I have told him if he is in a bad mood there is no point me wallowing in it with him especially if I can’t get through to him . he’d say oh, leave me if I’m moody I’ll get over it and if I do he complains. Or he would say just come hug me and when I do he pushes me away , its like nothing is ever right . Three weeks ago I made the mistake of mentioning my sons dad in relation only to my son, all hell broke loose.
Hours later I could tell something was wrong so I asked him if he was ok and if he wanted to talk and I kept getting one word answers so I said quite politely that I am going to bed.he said ok goodnight . the next morning I woke up to texts saying he asked me about my son and I told him about my ex and now he’s going to have to take space from me . I was like..what are you on about ,I didn’t say anything . he told me I am a very inconsiderate woman . I told him he’s a very one sided man as the day in front he called me and spoke about HIS sons mum to me !! He was quite rude, telling me I should go back to my ex and other stuff that I considered quite disrespectful. I told him he was rude and I won’t have him speaking to me like that so I didn’t call or text . It all came to a head a week later on the Friday I said hello by text in the afternoon to see if he was busy and he said he was so I left it to him to contact me . Later in the evening I was bombarded with text after text after text , I wasn’t feeling well either . He said he asked me to stop mentioning my ex and I couldn’t do that for him , I told him it wasn’t a big deal and sometimes we have to let things like that go if we are to move forward. He was ugly , he text me to tell him I love him and stop being a “C” ..I said did you just call me what I thought you did ? he didn’t answer he kept going on and on. I told him I don’t feel well and I wanted to go to bed . I fell asleep and he was calling I answered and he was so nasty , he said what’s wrong with you ,,,I said I have a migraine , he said what do you want? Sympathy ? you better call your ex to take you to the hospital , I said I don’t need the hospital and I don’t need my ex to do anything for me . he said yes you do and you always will . Would you believe that he then asked me if I was coming to a party with him the next day ? The next day he was acting like nothing happened , I didn’t go to the party.
I decided to talk to him about the way he spoke to me , I told him he had gone too far , he said that I pushed him to it by mentioning my ex and that it was what I wanted . He said I had gone too far and he was sick of hearing about my ex etc. He makes everything seem like my fault somehow and has done for a while now . I’m actually now beginning to feel better after months of misery maybe I just woke up lol talk about rude awakening . A few days passed and again we spoke and again he said how the things I do or don’t do frustrate him and it was bound to come to a head. I said I am not responsible for your actions or reactions. I also told him I think he has anger issues because no normal person is angry every single week for two or three days straight . I told him I am sick of walking on eggshells around him as I don’t know from one day to the next what his mood will be . Recently as well he was telling me about a woman he met that kept telling him how good looking he is and we had a chuckle about it, he said she took a selfie with him and his son. I wasn’t comfortable with that but said oh ok . I sent him a text and blushing kiss smiley saying hi, I heard you’re gorgeous he said yessss? So I laughed and said only teasing darling . he didn’t answer for a while so I said goodnight as I thought maybe he was playing a game or something . he sent back half an hour later saying what kind of conversation is that , don’t bother calling me tomorrow , its obvious you want a reaction but I’m not biting , I really don’t understand you sometimes . I didn’t answer ..I was thinking ….what the hell ? really ? I can’t even joke with you without you taking offense ?
Its draining and I’ve just about had enough …. 🙁 any thoughts ? thanks …feel free to ask me anything, I am sure I’ve forgotten other stuff . Thank you xFebruary 19, 2016 at 5:01 pm #96539HippieChickParticipantMy thought? This relationship is very one sided with you putting forth most of the effort with little to no reward. He’s either not that involved in the relationship or he’s very immature. Either way, this will only get worse unless he’s willing to recognize a problem and work on it. It’s entirely up to you what you do with that, mostly depending on what kind of relationship you want. I will tell you that is difficult for children to understand this kind of thing so you need to consider BOTH your aND his kids.
February 19, 2016 at 6:20 pm #96541MimiParticipantThings will not get better with him. They will only get worse. Right after reading your post, I saw three things on this site that seemed to apply to you:
(1 and 3 on this list of 8 things seems to apply to you)Trust your instincts. They are telling you the truth about him.
February 19, 2016 at 6:35 pm #96542AnonymousGuestDear K8tyB:
You wrote that you had a rude awakening regarding this relationship and you described horrid interactions with him, a repeating pattern of sickness on his part. Are you not considering ending this relationship?
anita
February 19, 2016 at 9:25 pm #96550k8tyBParticipantHi all, thank you for your replies, I asked him to go counselling with me he said we don’t need counselling that we just need to keep communication open etc. I disagreed and said if we are to combine families I think we should go, he said no so I left it. I have considered my child, there is no way I am willing for him to get up every morning wondering what mood he will encounter today, its not fair .
Yes, I’ve thought for a while the relationship is very one sided, I even said to him that he tells me I should do this and that and when I do I still get nothing back . H e always seems to have an excuse as to why he does or says the things he does and an apology is never really an apology and its always my fault anyway . Anita, yes I have decided to end the relationship and yes, it seems like a sickness on his part which he refuses to take responsibility for . I think something in me went from the last toxic interaction. He said him getting that angry wasn’t good for HIM , he failed to see it wasn’t good for US or the relationship , I tried to discuss it with him but he always switches it around as if he is trying to make me feel guilty that I somehow caused the mess.
So yes, its time to give up this relationship as it is unhealthy and not the kind of relationship I want, sometimes he reminds me of Jekyll and Hyde .February 20, 2016 at 8:01 am #96557AnonymousGuestDear k8tyB:
I am glad you came to this conclusion, to end this relationship! It seems very clear to me that this is the right choice for you, to operate for your own well being and for your child’s well being. If you continue this relationship, marrying this person, my goodness, what a disservice for yourself and for your innocent child! What an invitation that would be for more and more pain inflicted on a young life (your child), pain that your child will carry on … forever, as things do happen.
This man, it is a shame that he is a father: it is unfortunate that children, for all practical purposes, are OWNED by sick and abusive parents.
But your child is not owned by this man and neither are you. So I am glad you are taking advantage of this fact!
Please post again anytime you need to, and best to you!
anita
February 20, 2016 at 9:29 am #96565k8tyBParticipantDear Anita, again thank you for your reply 🙂 I feel sure that this is the right decision for me and my child and with every passing moment it is clear that this is what I must do.
I used to think if I did what he asked and tried and tried that the relationship would get better , but as time went on the more I gave the less I got the worse things seem to become . I can not imagine marrying this man and inflicting what really is sickness and abuse on my child who is happy, healthy and incredibly intelligent. How can I as a mother, watch that light being snuffed out by something so toxic ? Today he has not contacted me at all and it had very little effect on me, I carried on with my day .
I expect I will hear from him around a minute to midnight or get up to abusive texts in the morning telling me how selfish and uncaring I am blah blah blah , its always the same. He told me not to call him today so I haven’t and neither have I texted or anything , he might even block me on whatsapp, he’s done that a couple times before saying he didn’t want me to text him , and he expected me to call lol . I no longer care, I already feel free and there is a feeling in my chest not of pain and fear as it has been these past few months but of hope .
I am incredibly grateful to Tiny Buddha, you and everyone else who has help me to keep my head above water these past few months, even though I only posted a few times coming here and reading some of the posts and sound advice given has made me feel less alone . So to every one a great big THANK YOU xxxx
Peace and Love to all,
k8tyBFebruary 20, 2016 at 10:12 am #96569AnonymousGuestDear k8tyB:
He is punishing you, again and again… Time to get out of this sick and sickening pattern of being punished again and again…
And you are welcome. You are very kind to express your appreciation to the good people here on tiny buddha.
Your beliefs and emotions that supported this relationship in the past, this relationship with this vengeful man, these are still in you and even though you awakened, it is likely that those beliefs and emotions will make themselves known to you again and may confuse you. Please do post if this happens and i will reply for one, the moment I get your post. You awakened, that is good. Staying awake, in what is required for you to stay awake in regard to this relationship with him, i am willing to help, anytime!
anita
February 20, 2016 at 11:33 am #96577k8tyBParticipantDear Anita, You are absolutely correct , for the past four weeks I have found myself a really good therapist as I decided to learn a bit more about ME and take care of ME as it was obvious that trying to take care of this one sided relationship wasn’t working as I was confused , depressed and overwhelmed . I couldn’t understand him or his behaviours so all I think I could do was try to understand me and mine.
He’s just text me saying hello , said I was taking the piss out of him last night and it was uncomfortable and , I asked why was it uncomfortable because it wasn’t when he was getting his photo taken with a random woman , that I guess doing it was a whole lot more comfortable than joking about it lol . He didn’t like that at all and said he doesn’t need to explain himself I said no not any more .
It’s over…February 20, 2016 at 12:00 pm #96579AnonymousGuestDear k8tyB:
This man: I don’t know him but from your sharing alone, I had enough of him. My goodness!
Good therapy, how exciting! Please do share what you learn, if you are willing. Take good care of yourself!
anita
February 21, 2016 at 10:49 am #96664k8tyBParticipantSo…I’ve ended the relationship, yesterday I was sure and hopeful, today I am still sure but it really hurts and I can’t seem to stop crying. My friends tell me that I have done the right thing because he has been such a D@&$£K to me and it was horrible because it made me so ill. I keep remembering the good times we had but I am trying to balance it out with the not so good times lol , I am not sure what else to do .
He accused me of ending the relationship because I was jealous, I gave up trying to explain to him that I wasn’t jealous and that it’s the way he has been treating me that I am unhappy with .
I keep wondering if he loved me , if he was just wearing a mask all this time? And if he loved me why did he feel the need to punish me and hurt me over and over again. And if he didn’t love me , why ask me to marry him, why didn’t he just let me go ? And I question myself and was it me and was there anything I could have done better? was I kind? Patient? Loving enough? Did I try hard enough ?
He said I’ve been pushing him away , maybe I did .
I’m expressing my thoughts here instead of writing them in a book, I hope thats ok .
Thank youFebruary 21, 2016 at 2:55 pm #96681AnonymousGuestDear k8tyB:
It is fine with me, that you express your feelings here. Please do anytime. I wish I read your post earlier today- I would have replied earlier. It is expected, to be feeling the way you do. As I wrote to you before, there were reasons why you endured his punishments so far. Part of you believe you deserved it (you asked here: “was I kind? Patient? Loving enough? Did I try hard enough?” as if his behavior was caused by you).
Here are possible answers to your questions:
“If he loved me why did he feel the need to punish me and hurt me over and over again?”
Answer (I am sure about this, so this is not a Possibility but a certainty): When he felt the need to punish you and to hurt you and then proceeded to punish you and to hurt you, repeatedly and in spite of you letting him know he was hurting you… he was not loving you. So. If he loved you, he wouldn’t have punished and hurt you repeatedly.Maybe he loved you in between the punishing and hurting. Even SS guards in German concentration camps were loving in between acts of extreme cruelty. No one is cruel all the time.
“If he didn’t love me, why ask me to marry him?” Maybe because it felt good to him to punish you and have you stay so he can punish you again. He probably felt relief, an emotional relief every time he hurt you. This was his payoff and he was looking forward to a lifetime of … relief.
“Why didn’t he just let me go?” He got payoff from the relationship with you: the relief I mentioned but other feel good payoffs as well.
“Was there anything I could have done better?” To keep him, yes, you could have made yourself available for more and more punishment and hurt… and then some more. You could have done that!
“Was I kind?” Not to you.
As to him saying that you’ve been pushing him away. Maybe you did. But is there something wrong with pushing away a person who hurts you? I mean, it is not natural to take a person who hurts you closer to you, is it?
Please do post again. And thumbs up for doing the right choice!
anita
February 22, 2016 at 9:44 am #96771k8tyBParticipantDear Anita, Thank you for your insight and your words of wisdom they are a real comfort to me and they ring so very true . Yes perhaps I did feel like I needed to be punished.He was always telling me how patient he was with me talking about my ex and how no man would tolerate it and how bad it made him feel that I did it , there always seem to be something he tried to make me feel guilty about, Like I turn up late or I didnt get around to doing something he thought I should do in the time that he thoughtI should do it in which is usually immediately, I see that now.
No he didnt love me and I too used to think that he somehow got pleasure from conflict as it was after an argument that he would be most loving especially when I have agreed to something he has said and apologised even though he started it. He said I like arguing, I know that was him projecting as most of the so called issues were not issues but small things that could be sorted out with a normal conversation but he went for the drama and I’d either have to defend my self , apologise or agree.
I once told him that I am not responsible for the pain that he has been feeling all his life , maybe his taking it out on me really was him releiving himself .
Today I feel a sense of relief knowing that this weekend ( I know it’s early in the week 🙂 I can spend the weekend not wondering what his mood will be like on the day. Will plans made still be upheld? Will I have to duck and dodge accusations, will I have to breathe a sigh of relief going to bed at the end of the night if hes still in a good mood.
I woke up this morning to a barrage of texts and accusations, I wasnt kind, I hurt people that love me and he doesnt know whats wrong with me , I am volatile, I twist his interaction with the random woman and it was a nice experience til he mentioned it to me, I didnt invite him over to my house often enough, he would have been happy if I did things out the blue, stop referring to my ex and he felt alone in the relationship . The more he talks the more he opens my eyes to who he really is the better I feel about making the decision I did. I know some days I will remember the good times and I will feel pretty rotten and when those days come I will turn to Tiny buddah and my fellow posters for words of wisdom and comfort. One of the articles that is my favourite is Letting Go of Toxic Relationships when youre still in love ( or something along those lines) 🙂
Thank you very much .x
k8tyBFebruary 22, 2016 at 10:16 am #96778AnonymousGuestDear k8tyB:
You wrote: ” it was after an argument that he would be most loving especially when I have agreed to something he has said and apologised even though he started it.” My goodness, it is no less obscene than a sado-masochism interaction: he inflicts pain on you and releases his distress that way. Following the release of distress, he feels a peace of mind, relief and is grateful to you for that relief. Then the distress builds up again and he seeks relief, inflicting pain on you. Following that relief .. he is grateful: thank you, k8tyB, for the relief he is saying and here is your payoff, you get my love… until next time.
What kind of a deal is that. And as you accept his punishment, part of you believes you deserve it and gets some masochistic relief from being punished.
Isn’t this mind boggling, the obscenity of this kind of interaction- that i engaged in myself in the past…?
So this very morning he is up to it again, of course, to be expected… the distress has built up in him again and he seeks relief. He has the whip in his hand and is beating you with it, through texts, seeking your submission, the submission he needs for his relief, followed by him giving you the payoff for your submission, his “love” and so it goes.
Only you put a stop to it. He won’t. So if you want it stopped, you have to be the one stopping it. He is still motivated to get his relief.
ahhhh… Keep posting, please.
anita
February 22, 2016 at 11:08 am #96782k8tyBParticipantDear Anita,
This time there will be no relief for him , no submission , he will have to look elsewhere for his “fix” , I will not be accepting his punishment, it’s well and truly over. I hear what you are saying when you say ” the obscentiy of this kind of interaction” …because that is exactly what it is, obscene and sick . I told my therapist today that it’s as if he has a whip and has beating me with it over and over again and more and more often these past few months.
Yes, I do have to put a stop to it, he won’t be finiding any relief here , there has been no more texts today , I didn’t answer the last ones he sent . My regret is that I didn’t put a stop to this madness sooner, that I allowed it to carry on as long as I did. I am happy though that it is over and I did not present him with another victim, namely my child.
He can keep his “Love ” and give it to someone who enjoys wallowing and existing in the toxicity of it .
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