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May 20, 2015 at 9:16 am #77014GeorgeParticipant
I feel overwelmed. This time of my life is probably one of the toughest i’ve been through. My fear and anxiety are very high. I feel i need to die, like this is my purpose. I am stuck. The days are hard to get through. My social interaction is near zero. Don’t know how much more till i start screaming. My thinkind is blurred, my ego is broken.
How can anyone recover after this? How do you start living when you feel like you should not live. How can you love when you hate humanity? (misanthropic point of view). I hope my psychotherapy helps. I read other peoples struggles and i sympathise, however more than often, i sense their will to live in that they desire to get their life back together they simply don’t know how. Then i say to myself. There is hope for them, but there is no hope for me.
May 20, 2015 at 10:00 am #77017HopeParticipantGeorge, you can recover. There is hope for you. Please don’t give up on yourself. Is your social interaction is zero that is surely a reason you feel despair and isolation. Not sure what else to say online, but please reach out for help. Believe it or not, there are many people in this world that want to help you. Please extend your hand and don’t isolate yourself any further.
-HopeMay 20, 2015 at 10:27 am #77020AnonymousGuestDear George:
This is the nature of depression: it SEEMS like it is permanent, like it is going to last forever. It seems hopeless. It seems like you are the only one in this much pain. it seems like there is only one way out. So it seemed to me.I thought for decades that i was unique, like i was a freak of nature, that i was the only one that was screwed up… I found out eventually that I was human in every way, that after all the decades of feeling defected, different than anyone else, that there was nothing wrong with me after all, not any more wrong than any human. What was wrong is that i was hurt and i was hurting.
Take care, I hope:
anitaMay 20, 2015 at 10:42 am #77021LuckyLadyParticipantGeorge,
I’ve dealt with both anxiety and depression at different and multiple points in my life. You CAN and WILL feel better. It may not seem like it at this moment — but it will happen with time. Please look for support from your therapist, a medical professional or a friend. Medications can help. There is hope. DO NOT give up. Let us help you.
May 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm #77033GeorgeParticipantHope at this point is all i got. That i as everyone else am able to get back on my feet. But therapy does not do wonders and i can’t recover from one minute to the next. That is why the pain is so immense in the meantime.
Thank you for answering you took away my loneliness for a little. I just want to feel alive again…
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May 21, 2015 at 8:55 am #77065AnonymousGuestDear George:
How are you feeling today? I hope you find a way to help yourself and to find the help that you need. It is painful to feel pain… and the mind can take the pain and make it worse with thoughts like: this is going to last forever. And: this is too much, I can’t handle this. It is those catastrohizing thoughts that make it WORSE. If you could find a way to stop those thoughts you will get rid of the suffering that is on top of your original pain. Do you know what I mean?I hope you can get rid of the overwhelm part of your experience. You wrote that therapy does not work for you? Maybe the RIGHT kind of therapy will work for you. Let us know if you find a way that works for you- I will be looking for your posts!
Take care:
anitaMay 21, 2015 at 11:13 am #77068GeorgeParticipantAnita i’m working on it. In therapy i question these thoughts and try to understand how come i started thinking like this (i wasn’t always like this-at some point to my life, i stopped smiling).
What is really exhausting though i’ll share with you. There are no magic solutions and the worst part is that i don’t simply have a depressed mood and i just have to endure the pain knowing that i will live again. I feel guilt about living and don’t find purpose in life. This is what complicates the proccess of psychotherapy. I could take medicine but i feel that i want to talk my way out of this. Just like crying yourself to sleep-talking yourself towards life.
Honestly, sometimes the only thing that keeps me going is that i will love and be loved again.
Anita, thank you very much for taking the time to listen.
You take care as well
GeorgeMay 21, 2015 at 12:02 pm #77070AnonymousGuestDear George:
I agree: there are no magic solutions. Wish there were. Oh, do I wish there were. I was depressed my whole life. It is only in the last few years that I have been engaged in my FIRST effective psychotherapy (cognitive behavioral/ mindfulness, dialectical psychotherapy) and self therapy work using insight and mostly SKILLS learned in therapy that i have longer times of peace of mind. I too stopped smiling. Recently I find myself smiling at times… The “voices in my head” say to me as i look in the mirror at my 54 year old face: Oh, look at you, what is the point of healing when you are so old…?” It is recently that i learned to answer those voices (the inner critic’s voices or Freudan Superego): what was your excuse (inner critic’s) when i was young? I definitely put myself down viciously when I was a child… what was the exceuse then? Recently I found out that SELF EMPATHY is key.
Take care:
anitaMay 21, 2015 at 5:28 pm #77080GeorgeParticipantDear Anita
Thank you for sharing your most inner feelings with me. I am 22 years old but probably i would be able to adjust to life and just live if my father wasn’t an alchoholic. This sickness he has took a great toll on me. I am saying this because there was a time i would beg for him to become well…but he didn’t…so i gave up. I remember thinking how much fun we could have had. He was afraid to change because he was, according to him, too old.
You don’t know until you smile again how many lives your mood will affect! That is where i want to sum up. You give me hope to keep searching for answers. I am glad you are gaining control over your self and your inner critic! I hope i will too. I am glad that i shared my feelings about my sadness with other people.
Self empathy is probably the most difficult asset one person can attain for her/his character…I think every obstacle is manageable if you are not too harsh with yourself. However just as you said,i have also putmyself down since i was a child.
Look, i already feel a little better talking with you! I know it is not permanent, that magic is not included, but i am relieved.
You say you have gone through several therapy methods. I am currently in psychodynamic psychotherapy and i like the talking approach and free accosiation (i think it is similar with dialectic therapy, as you mentioned). Hopefully i will see effects in the future, as you did…!Take care
George- This reply was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by George.
May 22, 2015 at 7:33 am #77091AnonymousGuestDear George:
Regarding your first paragraph above: your father said he was too old to change- i bet he was younger than me, being 54. It is hard work, one has to be motivated and take step after step, endlessly patient with the process, but it is possible to do it at 50+- I am the proof.
Secondly, you shone some light here on your depression, shared more. I can see how your father hurt you. No wonder you are depressed. You reached out to him, you reached out to him many times, many, many times- I have no doubt. You reached out for his love that you naturally needed so desperately. You needed to feel safe in his love so that you can LIVE. And you didn’t get it- again and again you were turned down. What is more sad than a little boy (and part of you is still that little boy) looking UP to his father, naturally needy of his father, and being turned down again and again? Naturally- by the nature of being human- you needed connection with him so that you can handle fear (connection is what animals and humans- being animals- need to SOOTHE/ calm/ handle fear).Projecting my experience into you, I assume the following (and tell me if it fits): you are still waiting for that connection with your father. The child part of you still believes his only way to LIVE is to GET that connection with him. Healing is about the process of developing a part in you that will take care of the child part of you. This part can be called The Manager, effectively managing your thinking, feeling, behaving. This process takes a long time.
It will take a long time until you develop a part in you that is solid enough, trustworthy enough… and developing it through a relationship with another- be it a therapist- sometime along the way, your healing will be in the context of a relationship with another. The TRAUMA you experienced and still suffering from (you can google Complex ptsd, if you’d like regarding the nature of this trauma I am referring to) is a relationship trauma (with your father). Your healing will partially be an alone process but it will have to be in the context of a relationship with a healthy, helpful person- not with him- NOT WITH HIM- with someone else, someone reliable, trustworthy, someone who will not turn you away.
One step at a time. What can you do today toward the healing you need?
Regarding your second paragraph: you are welcome. I like it that you have the place in you where you care about another- took the time to write you are glad i am healing. This means you are still available for a healthy relationship with another. And you are still reaching out. It is good that you are reaching out. Just don’t reach out to him anymore, if you can help it. At least be willing to consider not reaching out to him, pay attention to the many ways you still are (in practice or in your mind alone)!
May 22, 2015 at 7:39 am #77092AnonymousGuestDear George, continued:
Regarding your third paragraph: self empathy. As children we blame ourselves for our parent’s rejection, meaning we start hating ourselves… the opposite of self empathy. Sometime along the way- and maybe you can have glimpses of it already- you can start feeling empathy for yourself. Somewhere along the way, you will finally understand on a deep level that there was nothing wrong with little George, that there was and is something wrong with your father. You will see that you were innocent and that you meant only good- wanting to love and be loved. that is all you wanted from him. how can that be wrong?Please post again, George- let me know how you are doing, anytime. I will respond within 24 hours if my internet works and I am in town and doing well enough myself.
take care:
anitaMay 22, 2015 at 1:42 pm #77103lil.lilyParticipantHi George,
I have been feeling like your feeling. I feel empathy all the time though I have been feeling anxious and I fear a lot. I am a fresh graduate, and currently an intern in the Capitol Hill.. and I came from CA. Had a recent break up, and a guy who wants to be friends because he cares about me and wants to be with his girl. And the program ended, and I am in Washington DC alone.
I fear.. I am looking for a job. and will be working for temp job. I am scared. I just want my career path to come and love.
Right now everything is like when it rains it pours. I cried alot.. and Having alot of anxiety. I am going to Jamaica for 5 days..and will be able to ruminate myself, my life, and my career goals.
May 22, 2015 at 1:43 pm #77104lil.lilyParticipantI cry alot.. lately because of all these anxiety.. I am going on a trip to ruminate.. maybe you should.. Or take a day off.. walk around.. go to a live show, read a book.. for me its hard because I soak up life. and I get depressed. But I know I will be alright.. Talk to your friends and everything will be okay
May 22, 2015 at 5:45 pm #77112AbbyParticipantDear George,
I relate to your pain very much. I was having an anxiety attack today due do feelings of not trying hard enough in my life. I am 23 and I feel inadequate because I didn’t finish college, I go through periods of unemployment, live with my parents, and have very little social interaction. I’ve moved out of state to live with my parents again and I have been lonely and in denial of myself for months. The worst part in my mind is that I don’t like being around people because I feel like I have to prove something to them. I know this is a lie, but it is a lie I unconsciously believed for so long, that breaking this habit seems like a complete break down of myself.
I’m also terrified that I can’t enjoy the present moment in every day life. I avoid people, I work somewhat silently at work, I avoid my parents, and then feel immense guilt for the way I am. This is the cycle of anxiety as I know it. . I’m scared that I’ll never feel natural around people and I don’t know how to communicate with people without needing their approval. In the past I always faked it and had lots of friends but there was always a hollow feeling in me, now that I’m overly aware of myself, I’ve lost the energy of generating that self image..completely. I wonder if this is feeling or fact. I feel very isolated from the world.
I did not mean for this to be so long, but writing this has helped calm me down enough to think a little better.
How do we know what feelings to let go of and what ones need addressing? This is the question I think about a lot.
I want to thank you for sharing your post. I found this thread in my spiral of anxietal thinking today and it helps to know that other people feel these things too. I hope you feel better and are able to learn and grow.May 22, 2015 at 6:48 pm #77113LuckyLadyParticipantavvyk8
For anxiety, I highly recommend Buspar. It helped me.
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