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  • #103267
    Gary R. Smith
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    As a medicinal plant, marijuana excels. After administering pharmaceutical psychotropics to at-risk youth and adults with autism and developmental disabilities, I would far rather see ganga prescribed when appropriate.

    According to http://luxury.rehabs.com/,

    “Because of its use as a medicine for various chronic ailments, marijuana is sometimes perceived as harmless. However, marijuana use can impact one’s perception and judgment. Persistent and heavy use can also contribute, over time, to various social problems.”

    My interest to know how community participants feel about it is more than casual. Medicinal cannabis has been beneficial to me in light use, and I have a California state license to grow the plant personally. I am considering, among other options, to either found a permaculture farm community which could be sustained by growing ganga along with herbs, fruits and vegetable, or finding such a farm cared for by conscious people with whom I resonate, to join. Either could be anywhere on the planet where I have a choice to become a permanent resident. If I am part of the founding of the farm, attracting initial funding and knowledgeable permaculture farmers would be necessary.

    My posts are always open to input that may not exactly fit the question I pose, when the response is at least relevant to the subject. I can also be reached privately from the Whole Human site contact form – http://www.wholehuman.emanatepresence.com/aboutcontact.html

    Thank you.

    #103272
    Joe
    Participant

    @emanatepresence

    Cannabis is one of those topics I am quite ambivalent about – I have tried it before and I didn’t really have any good experiences from it. Perhaps it was a bad strain of cannabis, who knows – because of these bad experiences (paranoia, mistrust, worsening anxiety), the negative pre-conceptions I had about cannabis use and living with parasitical housemates who smoked it all the time (amongst other things), I don’t think I have any desire to try it again.

    Having said this, I have read about some of the medical benefits. I have deduced that cannabis probably isn’t for everybody – I am not a cannabis person, sometimes I wish I was but I’m not. Some people are able to have great experiences with it. I have had bad experiences with it.

    I would love to read more about your thoughts on this.

    Joe

    #103311
    Gary R. Smith
    Participant

    Hi Joe,

    {{Cannabis is one of those topics I am quite ambivalent about – I have tried it before and I didn’t really have any good experiences from it. Perhaps it was a bad strain of cannabis, who knows – because of these bad experiences (paranoia, mistrust, worsening anxiety), the negative pre-conceptions I had about cannabis use and living with parasitical housemates who smoked it all the time (amongst other things), I don’t think I have any desire to try it again.}}

    In honesty, Joe, I also am ambivalent about marijuana, or have mixed feelings. I just got the medical marijuana card this year, and have tried four different strains. I can legally grow, but do not at this point. I learned recently that there are two major strains, Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica. Your response sparked me to look up the differences. My experiences have been mixed too. The strains definitely make a difference. At times I have felt that the plant is beneficial, at others not.

    {{Having said this, I have read about some of the medical benefits. I have deduced that cannabis probably isn’t for everybody – I am not a cannabis person, sometimes I wish I was but I’m not. Some people are able to have great experiences with it. I have had bad experiences with it.}}

    I am glad to know your experiences, Joe. With my mixed feelings already leaning away from it, this just leans me further in that direction. I am still interested in the farm community, but would not make it Cannabis based. Some of what I found when I did the search:

    “Today, it is widely accepted that marijuana has two different species: Cannabis indica and Cannabis sativa. Cross-breeding of the two types has led to a wide variety of hybrid strains with unique characteristics.

    “The differences between indica and sativa remain a subject of much debate, especially among scientists who study the plant. However, most agree that indica and sativa plants are distinct in a number of ways.

    “Scientists that have studied the differences between indica and sativa have come up with a number of theories based on genetics. One prevailing theory focuses on the genetic production of THC and CBD.”

    “Cannabis indica was specifically recognized as a therapeutic in Western medicine during the 1800s.”

    http://www.leafscience.com/2014/06/19/indica-vs-sativa-understanding-differences/

    #103639
    Anne
    Participant

    I have developed extremely negative views about cannabis over the years. I used to be very open minded about it, but having seen so many people go from bright, articulate, gentle souls to depressive potheads… I can’t stand the stuff. Just one person’s opinion, of course.

    #103649
    Gary R. Smith
    Participant

    Anne,

    I am glad to hear that. I still prefer medicinal cannabis to be administered when appropriate over petrochemical pharmaceuticals.

    I have also seen what you have and it is a dilemma. With my wife, a nurse in Germany for many years, as objective observer — we have both seen cannabis bring out my higher qualities as well, in individual ‘sessions.’ It relieved pain. Other ‘sessions’ were less positive, but none detrimental. I think it has much to do with the strain and method of ingestion. Smoking is not the ultimate. I haven’t tried other ways such as in teas, butter or edibles – or as oil vaporized – but am open to experimenting some. My view at this point is that cannabis was just a bridge for me. I do not see using it long term. That could shift the other way were I to encounter a farm community where growing is organic and the people are conscious and self-responsible. But that seems ideal and unrealistic from what I have seen.

    Thanks much for responding and sharing honestly.

    #103728
    Joe
    Participant

    @Anne

    I have also seen cannabis change many people over prolonged use, and the changes weren’t for the best. I have came across some really energised, chilled out people who take cannabis occasionally and it doesn’t seem to affect them in a bad way. But the majority of people I have came across who constantly take it are exactly as you described. Many friendships I had disintegrated because they just became apathetic and cared only about getting stoned. I’ve seen really smart, funny, intelligent friends turn into depressive drop-outs – I guess I feel sad when I come across people not living up to their potential.

    In my neighbourhood it’s not uncommon to come across people my age just walking around smoking cannabis – they don’t look like they are benefiting from it at all. They don’t look well at all – some even look aggressive.

    I could have quite easily gone down this route but luckily I didn’t. I still have many negative conceptions about cannabis use – my own experiences from it, people I’ve seen who take it constantly – I like to think I am more open-minded about it now because I am interested in the medicinal benefits but I stand by what I have said – I’m still not a cannabis person.


    @Gary

    In your opinion, what do you think is the best way of taking cannabis? I still have no desire to try cannabis again but I would love to read more about the differences and effects from taking it with different methods (I know you have said you haven’t really tried taking it in other ways). What were your positive experiences like?

    #103777
    Gary R. Smith
    Participant

    Hi Joe,

    I highly (not a pun) respect your feeling about cannabis and am the last to persuade anyone. My own feelings towards marijuana are mixed – not for myself, as I trust my self-awareness and self-responsibility. But I could not participate in something that is detrimental to others such as living on a farm that sells cannabis in a way which people widely abuse. I would rather not participate in the money or consumerism system at all, as well.

    I live on a property where medical cannabis is legally grown for personal use. This is new, as of this Spring. There has been no harvest yet. I have distanced myself from the growing without knowing why. Just a feeling. My partner, an empath and wise woman, sees the plants on a deeper level. She is not a user, but finds the plants attractive and beneficial. When I look at them, I also see the beauty and strength of the plants.

    I am realizing that the issue with cannabis is not the plant at all but with two factors. One is that it has been hybridized extensively to produce certain outcomes, which interferes with the natural design. The other is that in general people do not have the emotional maturity to be self-responsible when using marijuana.

    Joe, I am glad for you that you could have quite easily gone down this route but luckily you didn’t. Because I have witnessed first-hand the devastating effects of pharmaceutical psychotropics, and read about some beneficial results from medical cannabis, I stay open-minded to that limited use. I highly question the wisdom of recreational use at all.

    “In your opinion, what do you think is the best way of taking cannabis? I still have no desire to try cannabis again but I would love to read more about the differences and effects from taking it with different methods (I know you have said you haven’t really tried taking it in other ways). What were your positive experiences like?”

    I would be speculating on the best way since all I have experienced is smoking. That is not a way for me. I can feel the detriment to my lungs. If I do experiment with other means of ingestion, I will write again. In my positive experiences, my thoughts were slowed, steady and alert. Correction of imbalanced thoughts occurred naturally and I was able to think in more detail, perhaps due to the slowed thought process. I was more aware of the detail of my surroundings. I had that same expanded feeling with heightened awareness when I let go of judgment while soaking in a natural hot springs in southern Spain. The cannabis (with a higher ratio of CBD to THC [1]) brought out qualities of being relaxed and confident – but I don’t want to rely on substance for that. I did not have any particular insights and in the end felt the experience was just okay. It left me with a feeling of wanting to experiment further, with appropriate caution. Thank you again for responding. I continue to enjoy our inter-actions, Joe.

    [1] “Most people have heard of a chemical called THC, which is the ingredient in marijuana that gets users high. But recently, attention has shifted to another compound in marijuana called CBD — and for good reason.

    “Because while doctors can’t seem to look past certain side effects of THC, CBD doesn’t appear to present that problem. On the other hand, evidence of CBD’s medical benefits continues to grow.”

    http://www.leafscience.com/2014/02/23/5-must-know-facts-cannabidiol-cbd/

    #104175
    Gary R. Smith
    Participant

    Hi Joe,

    After wading through the swampland of internet mis-information and flaky offers of cannabinoid oils, I found a supplier which feels trustworthy.

    Their oils are from organic hemp, not marijuana. They are legal and not psycho-active. This company is the first I have found which has has the oils analyzed for CBD content so a person knows what they are getting.

    I placed an order today. If you are still interested, I will post my experience. It may take a few days, since the effects may not be immediately recognizable. Let me know, please.

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