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  • #69151
    Mefisto
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    Hello. Is there someone who can talk with me? I feel so many feels. And every one of them is very-very bad. Not so long ago i got double betrayal. My ex gf cheated on me with my ex best friend and dumped me to be with him. We dated for 2.5 years and with guy we were friends for 15 years. Since then my life became one big hell of misery. I cry myself to sleep almost every night. They were huge part of my life, almost only people who cared about me. I can’t understand how could they do it to me. I keep blaming myself for things that i did wrong to them. I know wont ever talk with them ever-ever again. This is soul-crushing comprehension. Nobody around me can’t understand what i am going through. I feel like the whole world abandoned me. When i imagine them together and having sex i feel so bad and shattered that i don’t want to live anymore. Had one failed suicide attempt already. I went to therapist 6 times, but we didn’t really make progress and his appointments are expensive. I feel like i am broken as a person, as a male, as a human being. My self-esteem is below zero. It feels like they ruined my life completely to the point of no return. Intrusive thoughts and memories haunting my mind every few minutes. And there is so much anger and hate that eating me up. I never could imagine that im capable of feeling such strong hate towards someone who i knew as friend for such a long time. I have nightmares where i try to get revenge on him and in the end he always wins in those dreams. I hate him so goddamn much that i would like to see him dead or completely ruined. He lives in house that stands 200-meters from my house and i see his house everyday from my window. Its possible that someday i will meet on the streets, but i really hope this wont happen. If i will see him i don’t know if i would be able to control myself. Maybe i would beat him very hard, break half of his bones, and send him to the hospital. Then i would end up in police station and have a serious criminal record. I hope we wont see each other again so that would not happen. Well, you get the picture of my life. I can tell more details if someone will be interested. Is there any point to live when you are so miserable like i am? When you know that never be happy ever again? How to live with heavy baggage of those memories? How to get rid of hate and bitterness?

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    #69154
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Shit man.
    That is beyond awful.

    My advice: Get busy. Anyone would want to die if they sat around and allowed themselves to think about something as terrible as this.
    I’m depressed like you are, for other reasons but that hate you have inside you isn’t going to go anywhere unless you let it out.
    And although you could show your ex-friend what karma looks like, by repeatedly bashing his head in, you would then secure a fate of misery (and prison time) and your life would end up in ruins.

    It’s going to take a while, but you need to accept what happened (meaning to accept you will need to never speak to those two awful people again) and move forward into a new venture. I suggest you beat the holy hell out of some pillows on a daily basis, or take up weightlifting or something similar, or else you may end up in a state of rage where you do something stupid.

    The best thing can do is focus on making this a non-issue. Make those ****s see that you’re far better than them. Don’t allow this to break you, because they would take pride in that. F*ck them man. They’re as good as dead to you now. I know that’s hard to accept, but it’s the only way out of this mess.

    Go do something big.

    #69157
    Kyniska
    Participant

    Wow, mefisto. I was going to read some replies to a post I made and then I saw yours and had to stop. Five years ago my ex-boyfriend cheated on me with my best friend. We were together for 3 years. I had only been friends with her for 4 years, but I loved her dearly and she was one of my favorite people in the world. After it happened, I really wanted to die. My hatred was like a deep acidic sickness, I had so many violent, awful fantasies. And I hated myself. I blamed myself for such a long time and I still do sometimes, even now knowing it wasn’t my fault.

    And it absolutely is not your fault. Everything people said to me after I went through it: “it’s not your fault,” “the feelings will pass,” “you’ll be okay,” I didn’t believe them at the time, but they’re all true. I just had to work at it. You’re doing the right thing, coming to places like Tiny Buddha and talking to people about what happened, not wanting to be swallowed up by bitterness. These are all good signs. I wish I had better advice, but all I can say is even if you feel like nothing good will ever happen again, please do not hurt or kill yourself. Keep a suicide hotline on speed dial. I did that and it saved my life. And just keep trying. If you are depressed and angry and miserable, that’s really okay, let it happen, just don’t completely give up looking for help and ways to get better. You will see the other side of this.

    #69163
    Lisanne
    Participant

    Hey, sounds rly fckn harsh.

    I went true something similair and trust me, you will learn a lot from whats happening now and you will come out of this stronger and wiser. Whenever my negative thoughts about ‘them’ would come up i would try to allow it alland just let go of everything i think and/or feel right now. Knowing that this will pass and will improve my life after a certain time. (though i understand that its hard to imagine this right now).

    Ive leanred that, the more shit you go true in life, if you take out the positive things, you will become more of a happy/content/stronger person. I know its so fckn cruel but i rly believe its the life-expereince we need to grow more awesome. Does that make sense? (Being able to love and accept yourself more, getting to learn about yourself, what you wanna do with your life etc.

    Go out and do the things you love, do things you have never done before, do things that scare you and be honest to the people that you have around you. Never think the grass is greener, its not, period. All people go treu their own shit, dont romantisize, we are people, and nobody lives in a fairytail. Just try to take out the positive. Make lists of things you want to do with your precious life. Maybe keep a quote-book with quotes that make you feel better about life. (i did that and it helped me)

    Go to the gym/work out! This will be good for SO many reasons. Be nice to yourself, be sweet and be soft. Ask yourself everyday:How can i love myself more? Take good care of yourself and eat as healthy as you can. I promse you this will improve the quality of your life if you accept your feelings right now and take out all the positive things that you can think off.

    Confrontation is one of the best things that you can do for yourself! I live by that, and trust me i’ve been tru some hard shit too. And i can honestly tell you that i am happier than ever before, i do what i dream off and i get more happy and happy with myself, feel more at ease in my skin etc. (am 27 btw) Now i thank the people who have givin me shit in the past, with out them and the expierence they ket me have i would have never grown and learned so much about life and myself!

    You will meet new awesome people. Pls try to not hold grugde. This will only hurt yourself. Forgive them (so that you YOURSELF can let go of the negative feelings). Remember they didnt do this to mess your life up. People fall in love, SO WILL YOU AGAIN.. <3

    Try to avoid sugar and alcohol/sigarets. You will get used to your new life. Try to view it as a fresh new start! And Fall in love with yourself. You are (or at least should be(come) the most iporant/beautiful/awesome person in the world to you and you always will. You are the MOST important person in your world/universe. It’s you first, always.

    I hope this helps you a little bit..

    Wish you a lot of love, remember you are NEVER alone honey! x from the Netherlands!

    #69181
    Maya
    Participant

    Hi Mefisto
    Ur a Strong person…thats why ur here…i can understand what your going through now…accept n let it go…it will pass if u dont resist it…n know that it was not ur mistake…it was her loss that she could not get YOU…n ur friend also lost YOU…it was their loss…But in this situation dont loose YOURSELF…UR PRECIOUS…KNOW THAT N LIVE UR LIFE LIKE THAT:-)… Believe in YOUSELF.

    #69182
    Maya
    Participant

    BELIEVE IN YOURSELF*

    #69230
    Mefisto
    Participant

    Thank you for the replise. I wish i could say that you advices helped me, but right now im even more depressed than i was at the moment i created the thread. I guess, i can’t help myself and nothing else will save me from this deadly misery.

    >Get busy
    I have work and studies everyday and it still doesnt distract me. No matter what i do and with whom i talk – there is always this burden of the memories that spoils everything i do. I started to have serious suicide thoughts once again.

    >take up weightlifting or something similar
    I took a few martial arts and went to gym a couple of times, but then my rage has been replaced with heavy depressive apathy – i don’t have energy for anything, just lying in bed for hours, crying and feeling like sh1t.

    >Make those ****s see that you’re far better than them.
    They wont see anything, they don’t care about me at all. I never will be so rich as my ex-friend and never will be have so easy slut life as my ex-gf. No matter how many efforts i will put to change my life, they always will be better than me.

    >I wish I had better advice, but all I can say is even if you feel like nothing good will ever happen again, please do not hurt or kill yourself.
    I was at the small party this weekend and it turned out to be a proof that nothing good will ever happen again. It was okay experience, we sat and drink alcohol, made jokes, but i understood that i lost my ability to enjoy life. In the end i didn’t have fun at all. What the point of living if you don’t enjoy it for even a little bit? If i would not be afraid of death so much, i would end myself for now.

    >you will come out of this stronger and wiser
    Its very hard to believe it. I never was so weak and vulnerable as i am right now. Grown up male crying almost every day? Not really a sign of strength and wisdom.

    >if you take out the positive things,
    No such things in my situation.

    >Go out and do the things you love
    I don’t love anything. I hate this world in every aspect.

    >People fall in love, SO WILL YOU AGAIN.. <3
    Don't believe in the concept of romantic love anymore.

    >n know that it was not ur mistake
    I introduced them to each other. If its not a mistake i don’t know what it is. Its impossible to forgive yourself after such failure.

    #69236
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dude… I can see how you’re feeling, but your brain is full of un-analysed shit right now.
    Just because you introduced a friend to a partner doesn’t mean it was your mistake that got you here.
    That’s not true at all.
    If you didn’t introduce your ex to that so-called ‘friend’, she would have hurt you another time. Guarantee it.
    They are just not good people… and, unfortunately, you have to be careful with who you put trust into.

    This weekend was not ‘PROOF’ that you can’t be happy again. That’s bullshit.
    You never said exactly when this all happened, but I assume it wasn’t long ago.
    It would be unrealistic to believe all that pain will just go away after a few weeks or months.
    But you have the rest of your life to live and one day, this truly will not hurt.
    At least not like it does now.

    I agree with the above, which said you should allow yourself to feel this way, because it has to be expected.
    But, move past the fear and holding onto the past. Don’t remain with these feelings forever and stay stuck.
    Anger is better than fear in this respect.
    And your mind pretty much determines everything that happens to you, because if you tell yourself you’re a piece of shit who gets betrayed because he deserves it and is a loser, you won’t allow anything good in. You’ll hold yourself back and tell yourself lies like you did multiple times above. You don’t need loads of money to show someone you’re doing okay. There are a whole lot of people starving in the 3rd World, but many of them are happier than materialistic people in the developed countries, like ours. Happiness comes from within. And some of the best things really are free – a sunset, friends and relationships (not always ‘the best’, of course… but often and in time, you’ll see that again).

    The past doesn’t equal the future.
    And hey, it’s okay that you want to kill yourself.
    Well, not ‘okay’… but natural, given what’s happened.
    I’d want to kill myself at times to.
    And hey – fellow depressed person here (a fair bit of the time) – so I know how it feels to be like that.
    I really feel for you, as I’m sure anyone who’s read this does.
    Remember that not everyone is bad… But these two people from your past are and you’ll do better without them, in time.
    One day, you’ll not live so close either.

    I know it feels all wrong. You thought you knew these people and could trust them.
    You feel like you’ve lost it all and have nothing to live for.
    But you have a future wife who will be waiting for you, if you carry on.
    Your life isn’t over buddy.
    And hey, don’t feel stupid because there are some horrible people, with sociopathic behaviour, in this World.
    They’re selfish and only care about themselves. They will walk over their fellow humans to get what they like.
    It’s not you who created this. It’s them.
    Maybe you weren’t the best boyfriend or friend at times – I don’t know – but regardless, it doesn’t invite behaviour like this.

    It’s okay to feel bad, but don’t believe that you will never be happy again.
    You aren’t the first person this has happened to. You won’t be the last.
    There are two outcomes from this.
    It will break you, or you will bounce back.
    If you choose the second, you need to be realistic and expect some ups-and-downs.
    There will be days where you feel like you’re over it… and then days where the scars seem to be as new as they first were.

    Reach out for support along the way.
    This forum will no doubt be helpful for a while, as well as a therapist and some good friends.

    Much love, bro

    Don’t give up on yourself.

    #69239
    RoseAnna
    Participant

    Hello Mefisto, my friend.

    Sending you much love and positive energy in this time of darkness that you’re going through.

    Sometimes the darkest moments in our lives are the ones that allow for the most growth and transformation. It may not feel like it now but what has happened to you has happened for a reason. Our minds cannot always understand or accept this when we are going through such painful moments in our lives, but please remember this time will pass- the pain will subside, and you will realize that this is just an experience that can be helpful for you.

    The wonderful people here have already given some great advice. I would just like to add that it’s ok and normal for you to feel the emotions you’re feeling, and even to feel like there’s no advice that will help.

    Just consider that their advice has already helped you, just by them giving it to you they are giving you love (and good ideas in the actions they’ve advised).

    And you are already helping to love and heal yourself by reaching out to and connecting with the people here.

    In your heart some of this may ring true, even though at this time the pain is so raw your mind will tell you you cannot accept it. But it’s important to remember that you life is not defined by the pain that you are feeling. You are experiencing pain that is totally normal considering that events that have happened in your life. But this pain will pass- their is something deeper at the core of you that will overcome this. We must trust in ourselves that we can always find happiness and deal with these experiences in a way that will allow us to live our lives in love and positivity.

    My final most important tip: Focus only on yourself now.
    This is a great chance for you to discover who you really are.
    Relaxing and Thought Provoking Video on Happiness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KopmSpe33Eg
    and I highly recommend Eckhart Tolle’s book The Power of Now.

    #69267
    Maya
    Participant

    Hi dear Mefisto

    Right Now u need good emotional support n lots of reassurance abt U… ur into self-blame cycle… u think all des happened bcoz of u… but its not true my dear Frnd… dont distract ur self by getting busy as if nothing hpnd… be wit the pain…yes it will hurt…feel it to ur core… it will move through U…dont resist…what ever Happens it Happens for our highest good… hv that faith… those people who left u they dont care abt u…yeah true…but y do u behave d same way like how they behaved with u…be kind to yourself… u can nvr say for sure u wont be richer than d guy u compared… Good things will happen to u only wen u know that it will happen n wen u allow it… n even if ur X-Gf was with u now…whats the use of hvg a person who doesnt love u truly for who YOU REALLY ARE??
    The only constant thing in Life is CHANGE..
    ur state right now…not so good…even that will pass…
    who knows nxt year ur life might be Rocking…
    I Believe in being n doing Good…bcoz what goes around comes back to us…

    All the people who replied to u also hv gone thr hurt in 1 or the other way…nobody’s life is perfect or pain free…but learn to be strong…this will make u strong im sure…all these people love u(includes me)…so only we r sending u lots of love from all over the world.

    #69287
    Mefisto
    Participant

    Guys, i appreciate your support. Today i went to free government therapist and he said that my situation is very bad and i need to get on meds ASAP. I really hate this idea, but he might be right that i wont be able to crawl back from this condition by myself. And i despise those meds, they are the reason of what happened with me. I got off from them with great effort and awful side effects and this suddenly changed my personality. Right after i stopped taking them, i became negative, bitter, sad, insecure and boring person. Also, without those meds i started to have sex-related issues. My ex-gf noticed it and instead of helping me getting through this after-meds-phase, she started comparing me to my ex-friend who obviously was better than me at the moment in every possible way. Im pretty sure that if i did stay on the meds, nothing would have happened, because i would have been much more confident and positive person. Anyway, i really despise the meds and don’t want to get addiction from them once again. And my mother begs me to start taking them, because she can’t look anymore at my suffering. I don’t know what to do. Maybe i really need to fall into addiction once again. And still i don’t trust them and their positive effect is pretty doubtful, yet addiction is very real.

    #69289
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have the same opinion as you on medication.
    As far as antidepressants go, I only lasted 11 days on a drug called Sertraline.
    I’d had bad experience with medication in the past so was very against the idea of anti-d’s.
    It took me a while to work up the courage to take them and during the 11 days, my side effects were noticeable.
    I couldn’t feel anything during sex (common side effect, for guys) and was crazy tired (I was tired as it is).
    I did a few videos on the drug at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7ir7IJfF0
    I also have some videos based on mental health on my channel. Check them out if you like (this is an ongoing thing, so I’m not ‘cured’).

    You’re the one to make the decision buddy.
    Your situation is one which may make it necessary to take medication temporarily.
    I’m not of the opinion (like so many seem to be) that you HAVE TO take medication in order to overcome depression, though.
    SSRI’s and other antidepressants are quite unpredictable and nobody actually knows how (or if) they work.
    The serotonin thing sounds like it makes sense, but none of it has been proven.
    I still suffer from depression pretty bad at times (today I’m fine), but I’m determined to get out of it on my own terms.
    I don’t personally wish to take drugs, because I believe in nature (I think society and the pressures we face create most of the problems) and wouldn’t want to rely on anything out of my control (like the drugs), so to speak.

    If you decide against them (could be a good call, long-term, in my opinion), you’ll need a plan that tackles your issues from multiple perspectives.
    It sounds like you had issues before this – and hey, many people do so you’re not alone – so don’t forget that.
    Whether this had happened or not, you’d still need to do something for yourself.

    You’ve said nothing about the rest of your life, but I’m going to guess that you either don’t have a job at the moment, or hate the one you do have. How old are you? I fancy taking a guess … 23?
    Though this would set the healthiest person back, you need to carry on as best you can and think about what you want from this one live you’ve been granted. What would make you happy? If you’re bored, get out there more and do something different and interesting.

    Your life doesn’t have to be the picture of doom you may be envisioning at the moment. It is very possible to move past this and become a great man. The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) was facing arrests for theft and assault when he was younger. He had $7 in his name. But, he also had some things going for him (His father and grandfather were talented wrestlers) and so he saw a path to something better. He’s doing pretty good these days. But he had to work really hard to get to where he is.

    Same could happen for you; I don’t mean you’ll become a Wrestler or Hollywood actor… but you CAN turn this all around. First step is to believe that you are capable of great things. Because you are.

    Hope this helps you bro.

    #69293
    RoseAnna
    Participant

    Hi again Mefisto,

    If you really hate the idea of meds and despise them it sounds like your natural instinct is kicking in.

    I think they’re very dangerous things, and if you want to find yourself in a better life situation my thoughts would be stay away from them. This is a chance to keep moving forward.

    A lot of the problems you faced ‘right after’ you stopped taking them were probably side effects of them leaving your body. Probably side effects that make you really keen to get back on them. They make pharmaceutical companies millions of pounds/dollars every year. It seems like they are there to make profit more so than help people get better.

    And anyway they will make you forget who truly holds the power and the answers to get you through this. You!
    We hope to help you a little along the way be reminding you of this.

    It’s really great that you’ve been able to get off them before, this shows you have a great strength within you. Stay on the path that you’re on.

    I think Dude’s given good advice, getting yourself out there and doing something interesting will definitely help. Also think about the new life that you want to now create for yourself. You deserve great things to happen in your life and they will. This is one of life’s storms, ride it out- it will calm and then the sun can start to break through.

    Lots of love and light to you from the UK xxx

    #69297
    Mefisto
    Participant

    Dude, thank you big time. I investigated your youtube blog and i must say im very surprised. You are so extroverted, bright, smart, confident and good looking guy. You life looks great – nice room, extremely cute girlfriend, music passion. You can give rock-concerts and instead you are helping some unknown lost and miserable people like myself. Its really hard to understand why you had depression problems in the first place. I know that you would say that you achived everything by hard work and you had your share of problems, but still, when i watched your videos, i could not shake the feeling like you live in some other world, where people don’t have depression. I think if you would see my life, you would be terrified. Russian poor commieblock, everything is gray, people yelling at each other at the street, im sitting in darkness, in my locked-up room with torn up soviet wallpapers, my clothes are black, my face is pale with circles under my eyes, my eyes are red after hours of drinking and smoking weed, my intoxicated mind goes back and forth between memories of my failure life and suicide thoughts. And at the other side i see your videos, where you are talking about depression and i feel like i am not alone, you know? Its great feeling.
    By the way, few of your thoughts hit me hard because they are so common to me, for example you said about “animal abusers and people who getting away with murder” and this thought i had so much times at the moments when i saw this world as pure hell. I wish i could meet you in real life and talk about stuff, but i live so far away.

    >You’ve said nothing about the rest of your life, but I’m going to guess that you either don’t have a job at the moment, or hate the one you do have. How old are you? I fancy taking a guess … 23?
    You are quick-witted, man. I am 22 and i hate my job. It will be 6 months more of my studies and until then i can’t change my job, because its the only part-time offet i can get in my city.

    Also, i did a stupid mistake, tried to get involved with another girl, when im obviously not ready for it. It made my situation worse because i realized that im not capable of attracting girls that are better than my ex. Now im having hard time to decide – should delete the crush from the social network? One month ago i found her profile and i developed a crush on her her, she is so beautiful and i thought that we had a lot in common. Long story short – we went on date, which i thought was great, and after she declined all my offers to meet again, ignored almost all my messages. I having hard time to decide – should delete her from the social network? Very sooon she probably will put relationship status with some guy and it will hurt me a lot. And she obviously wont ever write me first to ask whats going on in my life, because she doesn’t care. Im always obligated to show initiate and write her first just to be ignored. So, even if she wont put status with some guy, im sure that she will delete me herself because she keeps her friendlist very short, and it will be humiliating and painful for me. So should i delete her to avoid future humiliation and pain?

    #69301
    Mefisto
    Participant

    Rosey, i admire your position against pills. But i have my mother in picture. I cant hide from her the extent of my suffering. Shed very concerned about my situation after i became home drunk, started crying and saying stupid shit about suicide. She also sees how i lost my ability to sleep and lack of appetite,, its impossible to fake good behavior around her. Anyway, she suffer with me despite my efforts to keep her out of it. And she doesnt deserve it. Recently i caught her in her room, she was crying, holding christian icon and prayed for the cure of her sons depression. So i feel kind of obligated to take pills because without them i can struggle for very long time before result. And mother will suffer with me during this.

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