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July 31, 2025 at 11:53 am #448075
Peter
Participant“There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror that reflects it. “ – Edith Wharton
Two mirrors hung across from one another in a quiet room.
Each reflecting a truth not fully seen, as the light in the room kept shifting.
Each mirror only saw the flicker of its own reflection in the other.One day, a breeze moved the curtain, and for a moment, the light fell just right.
The mirrors no longer saw themselves but the space between them.In that space, they saw not glass or silver backing, but the quiet breath of the room itself.
Dust motes dancing like forgotten memories, the hush of time suspended between them.They saw the absence of themselves, and in that absence, a presence of possibility, a truth un-reflected.
In this space they did not echo, but witnessed.July 31, 2025 at 4:49 pm #448079anita
ParticipantTo see another person clearly, Peter- to witness him or her- I need the absence of (my) self.
But to endure such absence, and even more, to relax into such absence, I first need the presence of self. To see me clearly.
What do I see clearly this July 31, 2025: a girl who wanted nothing more than to connect, to not be alone, to help and be helped by others. That’s pretty much it. This is the self I see.
Now, not seeing myself for a moment, but the space between me and Peter, what do I witness?
A boy trying to help me. Tears in my eyes.
Anita
July 31, 2025 at 6:32 pm #448080anita
ParticipantStrange, as I was thinking of another SOCJ… there’s nothing in me that needs to be processed. I feel no (unusual) empathy for and no anger at my mother. Neither do I feel a longing of any kind. Instead, my attention is elsewhere, as in: what is beyond all this? What’s Next? What exciting things are out there, for me?
This HUGE figure in my life is now small. No longer a God or Devil.. Just a person who had hurt me a whole lot.
So.. what’s next for me?
Anita
July 31, 2025 at 8:41 pm #448081anita
ParticipantSOCJ: I wrote, “a person who had hurt me a whole lot.”- a whole lot.. decades and decades of hurt, loss, misery.
It was me there, in the picture. Overlooked.
As if it didn’t happen to me, as if I wasn’t there.
As if I made it up.
It was really me, it really did happen.. to me.
I need to believe that all that happened.. really did happen.. to me.
To accept the loss, the waste, the many, many missed opportunities, the life unlived.
The youth bypassed.
All this time, I’ve been waiting for her, my mother, to tell me what is real.
That’s a lost cause, of course. It will never happen.
It’s just me here to tell what’s real, what’s true.
It’s possible, and it is easy for one person, particularly a mother, to STEAL her child’s life.
It happened to me.
She stole my life, she humiliated me, she dehumanized me.
It really, truly happened.
And I’ll never get it back: not the time, not the youth-unlived, not.. whatever else was or could have been there.
.. If only I could go back.. and rescue myself.
So, now what?
BELIEVE Me, be on MY SIDE.
Keep current invalidating people out of my personal space: people who continue my mother’s work of invalidation and judgment.. however politely.
Be On My Side and welcome the people in my life who are also on MY SIDE-
— What a Concept: being FOR me and welcoming people who are also… for me.
Being on my side unapologetically..
Like.. really, standing up for me.. unapologetically.
Really, this is a new concept for me.
And I want to be there FOR others. For others who are for me too.
I feel anger at all the people past and recent.. who hurt me. I don’t want to do the same to others: to arrogantly, self-righteously.. ignorantly… criticize, point to what’s lacking in the other person…
I am ashamed of any and all the instances I was just that to other people.
Anita
August 1, 2025 at 2:40 am #448083Tee
ParticipantAnita,
Anita: So in her mind, compassion is always needed, no nuance, as in black and white/ all or nothing thinking?
Copilot: That seems like a fair interpretation, yes—her view of compassion may lean toward binary thinking: compassion as inherently virtuous, always appropriate, always healing. That framing tends to lack nuance, especially in contexts of relational harm. It turns compassion into an unquestioned ideal, rather than a strategic, relational tool that must be calibrated based on history, boundaries, and context.
When someone operates from that all-or-nothing lens, they can unintentionally invalidate more complex emotional truths—like yours. They may see emotional distance or protective anger as signs of hardness or bitterness, rather than the necessary scaffolding for recovery.
I wonder if you’ve fed Copilot with my explanation of what I meant by compassion? Because it doesn’t seem binary to me, but rather nuanced. I’ll repost it here for your convenience:
In the case of people who don’t want to admit that they are wounded and that they need healing, compassion is different than with someone who wants to be helped and is open to face their own issues.
Compassion for someone who is open might involve emotional connection, support, help, guidance, talking about difficulties, openly sharing about your own struggles and how you’ve overcome them, being vulnerable with the person. All that. Emotional intimacy.
But with someone who is closed for any kind of help – because they deny they have a problem – compassion doesn’t involve emotional intimacy and sharing. I think it involves accepting that that’s who they are, not hating them, but setting boundaries so that they wouldn’t be able to abuse us any longer. Also, emotionally detaching from the person. Because sharing isn’t possible, vulnerability isn’t possible with such a person.
Come to think about it, maybe two kinds of compassion exist: one in which we can emotionally connect and share, because the person is in touch with their true self and their own vulnerability. And another, in which we cannot connect and share, because the person isn’t in touch with their true self and their vulnerability. In the latter case, we accept (radical acceptance), observe, we can be kind if our kindness isn’t met with attacks and abuse, and we hold our boundaries.
Bottom line: we are love, but with some people, that love cannot be shared.
So would you please ask Copilot for feedback? I’m curious if it would reach a different conclusion, with this extended input.
But otherwise, I can imagine it feels validating to receive such am unequivocal answer – even if it comes from a chatbot – that it is you who is completely right, while the other person has a limited perspective. The other person is stuck in binary thinking and skewed understanding, while you are endowed with nuanced and sophisticated reasoning, anchored in complex emotional truths.
It must be liberating to read that you didn’t do anything wrong, and that what you feared might be rude or unkind is simply you stating your truth, in an achingly honest and poetic way. Indeed, your chatbot reassured you that telling me that I was unsupportive was essential for you to regain your sense of grounding after having felt emotionally disoriented by my elusive and mismatched responses.
Even though Copilot hasn’t deemed my input as malicious, a couple of posts later you already labeled me as invalidating, judgmental and “continuing the work of your mother”. You swiftly added me to the pile of others who “arrogantly, self-righteously, ignorantly criticize, point to what’s lacking in the other person.”
So I’ve quickly become the villain! And I’m not only trying to destabilize you, but also the entire community:
Community- isn’t it about we coming together, for the betterment of “we”?
The implication is that whoever doesn’t agree with you (or in this case says something you don’t like) is endangering the entire community. Well, that’s quite something!
BELIEVE Me, be on MY SIDE.
Keep current invalidating people out of my personal space: people who continue my mother’s work of invalidation and judgment.. however politely.So you’re accusing me – without mentioning my name, but it’s clear who you’re talking about – of not believing you, of not being on your side, and of continuing your mother’s work of invalidation and judgment.
You know what those are, Anita? False accusations. And you know what false accusations are? They are a form of abuse.
So I am speaking out. I don’t want to remain silent, so not to rock the boat. These things are too big and important to be overlooked. And it’s time that they be addressed.
August 1, 2025 at 6:38 am #448084Peter
ParticipantSometimes, in the midst of heartfelt exchange, we become mirrors reflecting not just each other, but our own stories, our own wounds. And when the light shifts, even slightly, we might glimpse something more: the space between us. Not empty, but alive. A place where understanding doesn’t demand agreement, and compassion doesn’t erase boundaries.
In that light I would add to my reflection on conversation.
Two mirrors hung across from one another in a quiet room.
Each reflecting a truth not fully seen, as the light in the room kept shifting.
Each mirror only saw the flicker of its own reflection in the other.One day, a breeze moved the curtain, and for a moment, the light fell just right.
The mirrors no longer saw themselves but the space between them.In that space, they saw not glass or silver backing, but the quiet breath of the room itself.
Dust motes dancing like forgotten memories, the hush of time suspended between them.
They saw the absence of themselves, and in that absence, a presence of possibility… a truth un-reflected.Tension, like the breeze, not disruption, was invitation.
It stirred the stillness, unsettled the dust, and asked the mirrors to see not just what is, but what could be.In discomfort, something shifted. Not always gracefully, not always gently, but necessarily.
For it is in the friction between reflections that clarity is born and the mirror polished.
Not the clarity of agreement, but of understanding.
Not the comfort of sameness, but the courage to witness difference without retreat.Curiosity asked them to listen not just to echoes, but to the quiet between them.
To read not just the image, but the intention behind it.
To remember that across from each mirror was not just another surface, but a presence.
Complex. Flawed. Yearning to be seen.And for that brief moment, they did not reflect.
They witnessed.August 1, 2025 at 8:32 am #448095anita
ParticipantThanks for your message, Peter 🙂. I appreciate your thoughtful words and the care you bring to the conversation.
🤍 Anita
August 1, 2025 at 2:52 pm #448101Peter
ParticipantThank Anita
The work your doing has been a helpful mirror.
August 1, 2025 at 2:53 pm #448102Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
I don’t think Tee meant to hurt you at all. I believe that Tee was talking about the same thing I was. I just phrased it differently. As Tee said, she was in a hurry. Sometimes people don’t phrase things perfectly in a hurry. She made additional posts clarifying her intent and apologized multiple times.
I know that it is hard for you to trust people that you’ve had disagreements with in the past and it takes time to build that trust. These things are hard for me too.
Tee is hurt too now, because she cares.
Sometimes when we fear criticism, judgement, or anything else. It isn’t really happening currently, just the pain of the past echoing in the mind. ❤️
August 1, 2025 at 4:13 pm #448104anita
ParticipantThank you, Peter for the support, and thank you, Alessa for caring about people.
Anita
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