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August 22, 2019 at 10:44 am #308979lindseyParticipant
Anita,
We decided on the movie “IT” I’m going to get it from redbox. Not sure what kind of food yet he’s bringing that.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 8:04 am #309055lindseyParticipantAnita,
So far plans still underway for tonight. My washing machine broke last night so I’m having to deal with that which is never fun. It will not be fixed until Tuesday so I have to find time to go to the laundry mat today.
I’m feeling some anxiety about this evening. One a little that he might cancel last minute but I’m about 90% positive he will stick with the plans. Two, my friends are not happy with this-they do not think he is right for me mostly because of the back and forth he has done. My close friend from work actually had some harsh words to say to me about it- his name is Ben and he thinks nothing good of K to summarize.
I know you probably think this is not the best idea either for me to continue to see him. I feel to an extent I like him very much, more that I probably will admit out loud, and it is just something I need to see through. He is a very nice person with issues just like me.
Another friend of mine said hey, go and have fun, you deserve it, don’t think about the negative things people have said, just enjoy your evening. So I’m going to try and do just that. I have a boundary in place which is that I will not go any farther beside 2nd base if that even happens. I’m about 75% sure that we might just end up cuddling.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 9:59 am #309063AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
I am fine with you spending time with K this evening as long as you do keep your boundary in place, to “not go any farther beside 2nd base if that even happens”.
Simply, be in control of what happens, that is all. See to it that you don’t go beyond second base so that you will not regret it the day after and get all anxious about it, making life worse for yourself.
anita
August 23, 2019 at 11:08 am #309081lindseyParticipantAnita,
I agree good advice and I will take it. Why do I feel awful? I’m worried that I will not get a text confirming later tonight and it’s ruining my day. My anxiety is ruining my day. It’s like a brick in my stomach and today is going by at a snails pace.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 11:24 am #309083AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
This is what anxiety does: it ruins the day. Key is to find a refuge in your brain, a place- as small as it may be- of peace. It is hard to imagine this when anxious, but it is true nonetheless- there is a peaceful place in your brain and you can go there and look at your anxiety from a safe distance.
I don’t mean that you can get rid of anxiety, what I mean is that you can observe it from time to time, as often as you can, from a safe distance.
When anxious is all that we are, life is hellish. When we discover a place in us that is not anxious, where we can rest, this is the beginning of healing and experiencing more and more calm.
anita
August 23, 2019 at 11:51 am #309087lindseyParticipantAnita,
I am still trying to find that place. Some days are better than others. K texted me a few minutes ago. I’m just a mess in general lol.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 12:12 pm #309091AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
The good news is that there is hope for “a mess in general”- I was a mess in general. I am not a mess anymore. What a relief to not be a mess!
I recently recommended a guided meditation series by Mark Williams, you can get it online. That is the only meditations that my therapist at the time (2011-13) sent me as part of my homework in between sessions, to listen to the first a few times on the first week, then the second. This may very well help you “find that place”. Try it and let me know what you think (before or after K shows up this evening).
anita
August 23, 2019 at 12:14 pm #309093lindseyParticipantAnita,
ok I definitely will.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 12:25 pm #309099AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
Let me know what you think of it. I do wish you a good weekend, starting with a partly relaxing, partly exciting (although not overly exciting) evening with K. Post back to me anytime you want.
anita
August 23, 2019 at 12:27 pm #309101lindseyParticipantAnita,
You are so funny. I will definitely look into it on Sunday. I’m trying to relax in general with things-not worrying so much. It’s a big obstacle of mine.
Lindsey
August 23, 2019 at 5:36 pm #309123AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
There are times that I am funny, thank you. It is now 7:35 pm your time, Friday evening. I hope you are having a good time with K, I sure hope so!
anita
August 23, 2019 at 5:47 pm #309125GrenadaParticipantHello Linds,
Don’t know how i find certain things but, I guess synchronicity works like this.
I came across this thread, & I am actually dealing with a similar situation to you Lindsey. Thought I’d share my point of view before I log off..
I too was in a very long relationship with an emotionally abusive & manipulative ex. I didn’t have kids, but he was able to manipulate me when I was more vulnerable mood wise.. It was also messy because of family & their lack of boundaries.
After enduring a situation like this for so long, not having our needs met for so long.. we just really need to know someone cares. We also really need love, emotional & physical fulfillment. However, that’s complicated then if we havent fully healed from years of emotional abuse. So complex trauma, trust issues, not trusting self etc.
I also had a thing with a co-worker that i felt extremely guilty about. I was lonely. We’re human, so self compassion helped me get over that. Men hit on women daily in the workspace, you think they care? nope that’s like a normal thing for them. Its us women who are really harsh on ourselves. You don’t owe anyone anything.
I had a few dating options right after, most wanted sex or were just as manipulative, fake , had hidden intentions. And one person who I talked with on facebook, who was really sweet, and always present and really got me and saw me, but I didnt give this one any attention because they were actually healthy.. lol, probably really long term relationship material. They were the only one who listened, compromised, cared, was patient, but i couldn’t see any of that because i was in my trauma.
So, what im really wanting to say to you is.
Trust yourself. In everything. You are both wanting to rendezvous with K, while you also are aware that K’s behavior is a bit avoidant. Can you accept this for what it is. Like not putting all your eggs in one basket? Not expecting anything he hasn’t committed to or shown you?
Also setting boundaries & standards. The tricky part here is, without healing from the past relationship. And getting into a new one so soon. we risk making the same mistakes. Letting people get away with things here and there without really letting people know its unacceptable. then we give months, years to another person who hurts us because of our unrealistic expectations.
Again we have needs and so, if sex is one of them, K is that guy. But otherwise, do you really want to give energy trying to change someone or do you want to invest time into someone who actually has done the self development work to meet you where you are at?
Is there anyone else in your life right now, who may seem boring yes, but is consistent? Listens, compromises, cares & wants to invest in you , without any question? I would say if you do, invest in this person. You need to develop healthier attachments in order to heal the pain from your previous relationship.
Stay lift-ed, & therapy would be helpful too 🙂
Best of luck.
August 24, 2019 at 6:12 am #309141lindseyParticipantAnita,
I do think I’m healing and learning it’s just at a snails pace. I have done a little pulling back from K – maybe just an inch or to but it’s growing. He had other plans after the movie- I think he is part of a computer club- while that was fine I felt it was a bit rude. He left after 2 hours and never tried anything with me. At first I was a little disappointed but when I woke up this morning I feel like I dodged a bullet. He seemed honestly a bit manic in his behaviors. On his phone , got up 3 times to go to the bathroom, kind of talking loudly. Was he nervous I don’t know probably not? Your word of limited fits. But with years of trauma, which I’m still trying to understand, I feel that I pick someone because they are interested, ignore the negative, and hang in there hoping for attention when given. When they are back and forth like K in some ways it is like a drug, a familiar drug- my mother a little.
Lindsey
August 24, 2019 at 6:36 am #309143AnonymousGuestDear Lindsey:
Good morning and I do agree with you that you are healing and learning. I noticed it a while ago.
It may very well be that K is on drugs, a stimulant drug that made him act “a bit manic in his behaviors. On his phone, got up 3 times to go to the bathroom, kind of talking loudly”!
Or he suffers from a bipolar disorder, manic depressive. Or both, drugs and bi polar. It fits with him taking those days off from work not long ago, staying on the sofa all day, that’s what he told you.. so maybe he is Up then crashes into a depression.
You wrote about K/ men: “When they are back and forth like K in some ways it is like a drug, a familiar drug- my mother a little”- how insightful!
So that means that when K leaves or withdraws or doesn’t answer your texts, it triggers your anxiety and you obsess about him returning to your life, ex. answer your text, similar to a person desiring and obsessing about their drug of choice. When he texts you back, or show up in your home, you feel some relief for a while until the next time he doesn’t answer your text etc.
anita
August 24, 2019 at 10:27 am #309151lindseyParticipantAnita,
As the day progresses I feel worse. Mostly about myself and the choices I make. I gravitate towards things that are not good for me.
I mean he comes to my house, is all over the place, changes his clothes by the front door- I partially saw/ partial mirror I said what r u doing?? Lol. Leaves before the Obie ends- says he’s going to stop by Barry’s house- a coworker of our that’s in his 50’s with a walker- but was supposed to go to some meeting with a computer club???
what kind of drug induced( don’t think he’s on drugs) evening was going on?? I’m so lost at sea.
Lindsey
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