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    anonymous
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    I have come to a point where the only option l see is ending my life. The pain inside the heart and mind is unbearable. With each passing of the day, life has become more miserable. Morning is the worst time and the moment I wake up I am instantly grappled by feeling of despair, fear, helplessness, and void. This pain is intolerable, and I cannot take this pain anymore. It really hurts. I see no end to this pain, is exhausted and want an eternal sleep.

    I am not fit for this world. Hatred, deception, and hypocrisy are the qualities to survive in this world and unfortunately, I do not have them. I never imagined surviving in this world would be this harsh. How can we say life is beautiful when all we see, and experience is cruelty and hatred. This place belongs to those who can crush, kill, and bury others while pretending to be civil. There is nothing pure, simple, and pristine. There is no room for soft-hearted, sensitive, shy, and simple people. Having these qualities is an open invitation for exploitation.

    Here is my life experience and this is the first time I am opening up.

    Was sexually abused when I was young. This event first sowed the seed of fear. The sense of fear nurtured when I saw my friends receiving harsh punishment like stripping naked in front of whole class and keeping the student in a cage. While I was not punished, I was scared to death by thinking of making mistake.

    My father was concerned about my future and took all my decisions (till his death). He too had a troubled childhood and exhibited extreme emotions. Though I loved him, I had difficulty communicating with him up until I reached my college and feared that I would not be able to live to his expectation. Once I did not show him my exam results for three months (I was out of top 5) because of fear. I only told him about the result when I became sick. There were occasions when he expressed his deep love. Since his passing, I miss those experiences. I was not with him at the time of his death.  One day before his death he called me multiple times, but I was busy at work and was unable to take it and thought I would call him tomorrow. It never came and he passed next day. His death has tremendously impacted me, created a void, and I feel guilty about it.

    As I grew up, I faced incidences of bullying. I was not able to confront them and let myself get abused. I was not able to stand for myself and would hear reaction from friends that I am a coward, and they would laugh. On one occasion, I was badly beaten by a classmate when I did not show exam answer. I was helpless and got into shock. I was afraid of having this conversation with my father and coming to school the next day. Another instance was a goon (who carried weapon) abusing a girl from my college. He abused her in front of me and others, and I just became a shameless observant. Few college friends including my then girlfriend continuously taunted me for my behavior. I was not able to face them. I still see it in my dreams, becoming helpless and have a guilt about it.

    Now this college girlfriend who acted like a loving and caring person turned to be a chameleon. After five years of relationship, she asked me to end the relationship which I accepted. I later found out that she was having multiple romantic relationship. The she would want to continue relationship and then again break up. This mind games and emotional torture lasted for a year. Poor me would just do as she said as I loved her. This emotional saga left a deep scare, and I never could become the old me.

    My only close friend was not with me when I was in college. A few friends who acted close turned out to be opportunistic. I would guide them in their studies, provide them emotional support whenever needed, listen to them, guide them in their careers and take all the benefits which I could provide. When I was in need they simply vanished. I would call them and visit their house, but none would bother to reach me. Whenever there was any gathering, they would courageously say ‘you never call us’. I never would challenge them thinking they would be hurt if I replied them back.

    Professional life turned out to toxic and completely out of my expectation. I was a good at my studies and was taught and believed that if you do your work properly then success would follow you. Oh! how wrong I was. Work politics, jealousy, rude behavior, leg pulling, getting scolding by seniors even for simple mistakes were the norm. People taking credit for ideas which were not theirs. People with buttering skills getting promotion and recognition even without achieving the agreed target. People were more interested in gossip than doing work. The most surprising was manager reneging from their promises and not having the slightest guilt of it and then advocating us building trust with the stakeholders. Money was all that mattered. I became more scared of these peoples and the work environment.

    Currently, I have limited my interaction with my friends. Most of them only talk when I call them but never bother to call me or visit me on their own. The only time they call is when they need money or need help. The same things keep repeating. There were few occasions when I behaved like my friends, but this gave me sleepless nights later. I would be cursing myself for my behavior.

    I have stopped laughing. Whenever I was happy and laughed, it was followed by multiple painful events. I think I was never programmed to stay happy. I live in constant fear that something bad will happen. I ruminate through the past and feel guilty about my decisions. I have been caring for my child for the last 2 years. It is wonderful seeing the baby growing and learning things. My wife supports me on this. I get anxiety bouts thinking going back to work, meeting new people and socializing. This has started to take toll on my family life. My wife loves me profusely, understands my pain but I know this cannot continue for long. There is a limit for everything. She deserves better however me being around will only drag her with me. I think I would be doing good to her by removing myself from her life. The only thing that is holding me is my child and my mother. But I don’t know how long I will be able to hold myself. I see no end to the suffering and pain which I am sure will come in multiple packages. I see the life becoming even more toxic (people spitting venom in the social media) and tougher to survive and exist.

    I wrote this last night and suddenly slept. This morning the moment I woke up I was disappointed that I was alive and thought ending my pain. Then I hear my child waking up and calling me. Oh! life…

    #430627
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi Anonymous

    I’m sorry to hear that you have experienced many traumas in your life and suffer from suicidal ideation.

    Have you tried therapy? I’ve experienced some similar traumas to you and found it very helpful. There is hope out there, there are good people that can help you to heal. Aside from therapy, surrounding yourself with positive experiences helped me a lot. You have a wife and child, bring them on this healing journey too. The last thing your family needs is you dead. I can hear how much you love them and no doubt, they love you just as much.

    Wishing you all the best! 🙏❤️

    #430630
    anita
    Participant

    Dear anonymous:

    The last 4 sentences of your original post: “I wrote this last night and suddenly slept. This morning the moment I woke up I was disappointed that I was alive and thought ending my pain. Then I hear my child waking up and calling me. Oh! life…“-

    – the answers are all in your words right above: (1) Express yourself, just as you did in your original post,  let out your emotions, type them out on the computer screen. You suddenly slept after expressing yourself the night you typed your original post, good thing. Keep doing what works,

    (2) Your child waking up is a new life waking up, calling you, getting your attention; find new life within you and attend to it. I will soon elaborate on this point.

    The title of your thread is “Oh! Life you are complicated“. Let’s simplify life, not over-simplify it, but just enough to be realistic and somewhat hopeful.

    Hatred, deception, and hypocrisy are the qualities to survive in this world and unfortunately, I do not have them…How can we say life is beautiful when all we see, and experience is cruelty and hatred“- there is indeed a huge void in this world, a void of peace, of mildness, of kindness. And we are all (the hating and the hated, the deceiving and the deceived) on the same boat of destruction.

    Morning is the worst time, and the moment I wake up, I am instantly grappled by feeling of despair, fear, helplessness, and void… As I grew up, I faced incidences of bullying. I was not able to confront them…  I was not able to stand for myself…  On one occasion, I was badly beaten by a classmate… I was helpless and got into shock“- the void-within: too scared to stand up for yourself, not being able to help yourself (aka helplessness).

    Another instance… He abused her in front of me and others, and I just became a shameless observant… I still see it in my dreams, becoming helpless“- the void-within: too scared to stand up for and help the abused.

    “I just became a shameless observant… I was not able to face them. I still see it in my dreams, becoming helpless and have a guilt about it“-

    – shame and guilt are huge contributors to your helplessness and despair. You were not shameless when you passively observed the abuse done to your classmate; you were scared, a scared observant. You’d have to peel the shame and guilt off the fear, so to heal as much as it is possible for you to heal.

    You’ll need to replace the shame and guilt with empathy for the scared boy within you.

    Once you do that, the scared boy within you will be less scared, and courage will be the new life within you, which I mentioned above. Courage will replace helplessness.

    There were occasions when he (your father) expressed his deep love… One day before his death he called me multiple times, but I was busy at work and was unable to take it and thought I would call him tomorrow. It never came and he passed next day. His death has tremendously impacted me, created a void, and I feel guilty about it“-

    – there were many, many occasions when you expressed your deep love for your father. Your love for him motivated you to study and work as hard as you did, so to meet his expectations. You weren’t with him that one day when  he passed, but you loved him all the days of your life.

    I think I was never programmed to stay happy. I live in constant fear that something bad will happen. I ruminate through the past..“- your brain is in the habit, by this point, of feeling anxious and depressed. Reading my reply.. reading anything.. will not change the chemical habits of your brain, (chemicals that create your emotional experience). It will take replacing the old chemical/ mental habit with a new habit. New activities within your daily routine are needed, ex.: exercise, guided meditations, a Tai-Chi class, yoga and a daily practice of Mindfulness.

    I would like to communicate with you further..

    anita

    #430688
    Tommy
    Participant

    Four noble truths of the Buddha, 1. Life is suffering,   2. The truth of suffering,   3. There is a way out of suffering,   4. The path to freedom from suffering.

    Life is tough and terrible. There is so much suffering and cheating and lying and everything. A toothache is painful but the suffering is in the mind who endures the toothache longing for it to end. Everyone suffers pain and has a terrible time. But, it is those, who reach beyond the suffering to see the truth of life and the truth of Buddha nature, they live a life of love, compassion and wisdom.

    There are no simple cures. And, for the Buddha, he said one is reborn. So, in time you will return in another life. And go thru similar until you have learned the lesson that is taught. Suicide is not the answer. Karma will keep you in this circle. Despair is not the answer. You may need to express your feelings and that will help for the moment. You may need to take up the practice of mindfulness, meditation. Find a teacher and sangha to learn how to break into freedom. Maybe take lessons in self-defense. Be able to feel that you take control of your life.

    #434821
    anonymous
    Participant

    Hello Everyone,

    Thank you all for your time going through my post and replying to it.

    I am very shy person and opening is not an easy process for me and hence delay in my reply.  I have been going through your response and trying to understand it. In between there were some family emergencies which I had to attend.

    My past still comes before me, and I get deeply hurt by feeling of shame and guilt. While I try my best to get out of it somehow, I am still in its grasp. The past has been so painful, and I foresee the same things occurring in the future. This was not the case 4.5 years ago. I was full of life and energy. While I was aware of my past then, it did not seem to have a severe impact on me. I do not know how all of the sudden past events started to took toll over my life. This has come to a point where I have not a positive outlook about life.  I am always drained of energy, and I just like to sleep wishing this will be a long endless sleep.

    I thought I need to get out of my current environment, and I am currently staying at my sister’s place. She observed few behaviours like screaming in my sleep and getting lost in thought when I am talking to her. She asked me if I was alright. While the mind asks me to share my issues and the soul stops me from sharing it. She herself have gone through a lot recently and I did not want to bother with additional issues.

    I though shared some of my issues with one of my brothers. I am thankful for his time and active listening.  I was good for few days and then suddenly I was back to square 1. All the good vibes that were there were suddenly erased, and I am on the same path.

    My child is the only thing stopping me to end my pain and I have to fight my feeling daily. It is good to see my child growing, speaking new words and calling me. Also, I am worried how he would feel upon knowing father has ended his life. The society I come from will taunt my child and make my child’s life miserable. I wish to be with my child but cannot see if I can win the fight with my mind.

     

    Hi Helcat,

    Thank you for response. I am bit scared going to the therapy sessions as I have difficulty opening to others and, I have heard horrendous stories about therapist like not properly listening to you, prescribing medication immediately and treating you like an object. If you are ok, can you share how was your experience with the therapist?

     

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you for your response. I still get anxiety bouts specially during the morning and wish I was not alive in the morning. I have started to listen to relaxing music, and this helps a bit. I have started journaling, and it has helped me to let out my emotions. However, there are triggering factors which completely consumes me, brings all the negative emotions and all the effort which I put seems to go in vain and I am back to start. Is this a normal process?

     

    Hi Tommy,

    Thank you for your response. I have started to go through some Buddhism books. However, there is a constant quarrel between mind and soul, and I seem to get lost in it for a long time.  It seems I am stuck in quicksand and there is no way out from it.  Journaling my emotions helps a bit.

    And I again thank you all for you time and kind words.

    #434823
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi Anonymous

    Of course, I’m happy to share my experiences of therapy.

    I’ve had a couple of different therapists. One when I was a child where they didn’t say very much and very much just waited for me to share when I wanted to, if I wanted to. The therapist had a lot of boundaries in place to make sure I didn’t get too attached which is essential when working with children. They could never remember my mother’s name which amused me.

    I worked with a counsellor when I was in college. They were very nice and provided some advice about stopping self harming tendencies by practicing being kinder to yourself.

    I had therapy around the birth of my son to help with intrusive thoughts. The two people I saw were kind and supportive and I learned some useful advice for managing intrusive thoughts.

    I had issues with one therapist. They hadn’t read my file and asked me to write down my memory of being raped as homework in the first session when I had told them that I had never spoken about it before. It was too much too soon and I didn’t go back.

    I waited to see another therapist and ended up seeing the one that I had left years before. I thought that I would make the best of the situation and say what wasn’t helpful. That was taken on board and she apologised. A different approach was used moving forward. Things went much better with a different approach and it turns out she was an amazing trauma therapist. I did the bulk of my work in therapy with her. She had difficulty remembering names of family members too. I think it is a common thing, if you think about how many patients they have every week and they all have family members. It is a lot to remember.

    I always tell people that if something happens in therapy to upset you, tell your therapist. They are experts in communication and should immediately apologise and work with you to find a solution.

    The goal of therapy is really to learn to be your own therapist. The job of your therapist is to teach you a lot of tools and to model behaviour that you will learn to do for yourself. Your therapist should be kind and listen to you. There are some things that therapists commonly say that people can find upsetting. They will call some behaviour and thoughts that are upsetting normal. But they don’t mean it isn’t important or distressing. They mean it in the sense that if someone is in a difficult situation, the feelings or actions are a normal human reaction to the circumstances.

    When starting therapy a goal is usually set. It is a good idea to consider what you might want to discuss in therapy and any goals that you would like to achieve before you go.

    That being said, therapists can have their off days. I know of a therapist who was horrified that they fell asleep on a patient when they were ill with long covid. My therapist’s dog died and that day we just spoke about memories of her dog. And sometimes if a patient has difficulty staying on task it can be difficult for the therapist to keep the conversation on task.

    I have had a bad mental health nurse once who said some awful things to me. I had just aged out of child therapy and was waiting on adult therapy, I was seeing this nurse in the meantime. She complained that she didn’t see why I should have more therapy since I had already had therapy and called me melodramatic and attention seeking because I said that I didn’t know how I would cope without a therapist and was crying. She also wouldn’t let me leave when I tried to and told me that I had to stop crying before I could leave. The important context here is that I was abused growing up as a child and raped shortly before child therapy ended. If I was more stable and was older and wiser at the time I would have reported her because her behaviour was wildly inappropriate. I never saw her again. A mental health nurse has very poor training compared to a therapist, psychiatrist or a psychologist. I have heard of lots of bad experiences with mental health nurses sadly.

    There are ways to report these things and it should be done if someone treats you badly. I think there is a difference between mistakes and things not working and people being intentionally cruel.

    It is difficult when a patient has suicidal thoughts in therapy. There are a lot of strict rules about what can and can’t be done. Therapy can be distressing especially when talking about traumatic memories as the memories themselves are distressing. It is important to be stable when talking about these things, so you don’t go home and hurt yourself. You would need to be honest with your therapist about these thoughts and let them know if they get worse. They may work with you if you are very clear about how you are doing as you have a preventative factor, your child. As long as they believe you aren’t about to harm yourself it will be fine.

    Hmm medication. There are a couple of different perspectives on it. Medication can make people more functional if they respond well to it. It may be suggested. But you can just say no. You don’t have to take it if you don’t want to. My trauma therapist actually helped me to withdraw from medication because she believed that medication interferes with therapy. Medication numbed my feelings, it was important to actually feel my feelings for therapy to be effective especially since I had habits of numbing my emotions based on trauma too.

    Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏

    #434838
    anita
    Participant

    Dear anonymous:

    You are welcome. You shared in your 2nd post that 4-5 years ago, you were “full of life and energy“, and “all of a sudden past events started (to take over your life)” and basically, you were depressed. Recently, you shared about some of your issues with your brother, and as a result of your sharing and his active listening, you felt “good for a few days and then suddenly (you were) back to square 1. All the good vibes that were there were suddenly erased“=you were back to being depressed.

    This is how your depression looks like, taken from your original post 3 months and 4 days ago (April 5): “The pain inside the heart and mind is unbearable… feelings of despair, fear, helplessness, and void… I think I was never programmed to stay happy. I live in constant fear… I see no end to the suffering and pain which I am sure will come in multiple packages. I see life becoming even more toxic (people spitting venom in the social media) and tougher to survive and exist“.

    You asked me (2nd post): “I have started to listen to relaxing music, and this helps a bit. I have started journaling, and it has helped me to let out my emotions. However, there are triggering factors which completely consumes me, brings all the negative emotions and all the effort which I put seems to go in vain and I am back to start. Is this a normal process?“- healing is not a linear process: there’s improvement, then regression (back to feeling badly), then improvement, sometimes great improvement and you think you’re done healing, but.. then feeling badly again, and disappointed: it’s like a zigzag line with ups and downs, while the overall trajectory, over time, is upward if you continue the process in spite of the regressions.

    So, yes, the zigzag nature of healing is normal. But for healing to proceed, you have to expect and accept the regressions as a normal part of the process, to persevere and continue.

    Morning is the worst time and the moment I wake up I am instantly grappled by feeling of despair, fear, helplessness, and void (April 5)…I still get anxiety bouts specially during the morning and wish I was not alive in the morning (July 8)- I think that you’ll need to start and restart the healing process every morning by stating your objectives of your healing. Perhaps you can formulate your objectives and start each day with them in mind.

    It is scary and depressing to feel powerless, no wonder you are anxious and depressed. I see the hope for your healing in changing your attitude from that of personal helplessness to that of personal empowerment, in you believing that you have some (some, not a whole lot) power over what happens in your life.

    (April 5): “My father was concerned about my future and took all my decisions (till his death)“- it is time for you to take all of your decisions, to be powerful in your own life!

    (April 5): “I am not fit for this world. Hatred, deception, and hypocrisy are the qualities to survive in this world and unfortunately, I do not have them. I never imagined surviving in this world would be this harsh. How can we say life is beautiful when all we see, and experience is cruelty and hatred. This place belongs to those who can crush, kill, and bury others while pretending to be civil. There is nothing pure, simple, and pristine. There is no room for soft-hearted, sensitive, shy, and simple people. Having these qualities is an open invitation for exploitation“- it is time for you to do more than to survive a harsh world. Too many people’s place in this world is indeed a place of hatred, deception and hypocrisy (while all of us have to address these within us, not just outside of us), but that doesn’t mean that you need to withdraw from the world. Instead of withdrawing from it, take your rightful place in it.

    There is a saying: Be the change you want to see in the world. Your rightful place in the world, using your words, is to be the pure, simple, and pristine person you wish others were, best you can! Participate in life more, actualize yourself in this world.

    July 8: “It is good to see my child growing, speaking new words and calling me“- there is a concept called a Beginner’s Mind: the willingness to see everything as if for the first time, free of prejudice, judgments, or biases. It’s the way a young child sees everything. A young child is also focused on the present time, nothing to ruminate about: that’s why they are happy and hopeful. Try to see things through your child’s eyes and focus on the present moment.

    Every day, beginning in the morning, shift from despair to hope, bit by bit, in spite of and through expected regressions.

    anita

     

    #434861
    anonymous
    Participant

    Yesterday was a very painful day and I had a breakdown.

    Hi Helcat,

    Thank you for sharing your experience  and I am sorry for the pain you have gone through. I will reach out to the therapist once I am back from my sister’s place

    Hi Anita,

    Yes you are right. Healing has been a zigzag. For a moment everything seems fine and I console myself  that everything is the outcome of overthinking. Then suddenly something triggers and I become sad and downward spiral starts.

    Yes you are also right that I need to take all my decisions. But this is where I get confused. It seems every decision I take will result negatively and I try to think of all consequences from the decisions I try to make and I get lost. Even a simple decision seems an uphill task for me hence this results in serious procrastination.

    Yes you have correctly identified that I have withdrawn myself completely. There were things which I used to enjoy. I do not do those things. The reason being fear of something unknow. I will try to work on this.

    Whoever I am communicating with at the moment, I try using compassion and empathy and ensure I do not use words that hurts them. In fact in the past, friends who used to come to me for sharing their issues. I listened to them and provided help to the best of my abilities.  I was deeply hurt when I was having issues and looked for them. They were not there.

    I have been smoking heavily since the past 4.5 years. From this morning, I have made goal to reduce it slowly and ultimately quit.

    Thank you all for taking time to go through the post and kind words.

    #434863
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi Anonymous

    Thank you for your kind words! I’m glad that you found sharing my experience helpful. It is good to hear that you are willing to try therapy once you return from your sister’s house.

    You are right, the world is a challenging place. One thing that I really learned from therapy that you might find helpful is learning to identify unhealthy behaviours and manage boundaries. The way I think about it there are bad people in the world, neutral people in the world and good people in the world. There are good people I swear! The challenge is in telling the difference. Learning how to protect yourself is helpful. A difficulty is that even good people make mistakes. We are all human and make mistakes. But if someone cares apologises and genuinely tries to do better. That is worth it’s weight in gold.

    I’m sorry to hear that you had a bad day, family emergencies, your friends haven’t been supportive and that you have night terrors.

    It is good to hear that you find journaling and talking to your brother helpful. I would encourage you to talk to your sister too. She is asking. It is very different listening to other people’s problems than dealing with your own. You are either the kind of person who listens to others difficulties or you are not. If she has listened in the past, I’m sure that she would be happy to again. It is really nice to be able to be supportive and do that for someone.

    I think that you have been brave in replying when you are shy and these things are sensitive and not the easiest to talk about. 😊 Please feel free to share whatever you wish!

    Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏

    #434871
    anita
    Participant

    * It is possible that this post will come out messy because I am copied and pasted from an online source. If it does, I will resubmit the following in a clear form.

    Dear anonymous:

    ... I console myself  that everything is the outcome of overthinking… I need to take all my decisions. But this is where I get confused. It seems every decision I take will result negatively and I try to think of all consequences from the decisions I try to make and I get lost. Even a simple decision seems an uphill task for me hence this results in serious procrastination“- when one is lost in overthinking, then indeed even a simple decision is an uphill task and procrastination is the result.

    From very well mind/ how to know when you are overthinking: “Overthinking can be a hard habit to break…  the longer you think about something, the less time and energy you have to take productive action. Plus, thinking about all the things you could have done differently, second-guessing your decisions, and continuously imagining worst-case scenarios can be exhausting… Overthinking involves thinking about a certain topic or situation excessively and analyzing it for long periods of time. When you overthink, you have a hard time getting your mind to focus on anything else… Research suggests that overthinking is associated with feelings of depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)…

    Back to your post: “Whoever I am communicating with at the moment, I try using compassion and empathy and ensure I do not use words that hurts them. In fact in the past, friends who used to come to me for sharing their issues. I listened to them and provided help to the best of my abilities.  I was deeply hurt when I was having issues and looked for them. They were not there“-

    – in line with the last point in  article I quoted from, try using compassion and empathy toward yourself and ensure that you do not use words that hurt you. Listen to yourself and provide help to yourself. Be there  for you.

    I have been smoking heavily since the past 4.5 years. From this morning, I have made goal to reduce it slowly and ultimately quit“- congratulations for making this goal and I wish you success!

    anita

     

    #434883
    anonymous
    Participant

    Hi Helcat,

    Thank you for your reply. I was searching for ending life on the internet when I found this website. I first read other people’s post and found that there are peoples who were giving time to listen to others without any judgement and comforting them. This place has provided me with platform to let out my feelings which was deep inside me.

    Yes, you are right, I need to identify unhealthy behaviours and manage boundaries. This is where I have been helpless and careless.

    Hi Anita,

    There is one side of me which tells me that I should not overthink. But I get carried away when I try to make a decision. I mentally picture all the negative outcomes and feel them as real. I reflected on this behaviour and found that in my childhood I was not allowed to make any mistakes either at home or at school. Whenever I made one it was not well taken.  I was scolded and judged. Never was I taught that mistake happens, and you need to learn from it. All I was said was how can a studious student like you make such mistakes and it was a shame.  In the adulthood, there were few decisions I took, that did not result nicely.  I think the fear of taking decisions started from these events and has been inculcated.

    Yes, I have not been compassionate and kind to myself.  In fact, I have been abusing myself for my mistakes, for all the guilts, for the shameful events, for the helpless situations and for not being able to stand for myself when I should have. In fact, your response has made be realised how badly I have been self-mortifying myself mentally and through unhealthy lifestyle for a long time.

    Thank you all for taking time to go through my post and the kind words.

    I hope I am not bothering you with regular and long posts.

    #434905
    anita
    Participant

    Dear anonymous:

    You are welcome, and no, you are not bothering me with your regular posts at the length they’ve been so far, not at all. I hope that you continue to post!

    In my childhood I was not allowed to make any mistakes either at home or at school. Whenever I made one… I was scolded and judged. Never was I taught that a mistake happens, and you need to learn from it“- sadly, and hypocritically, every person who did not allow you to make mistakes, every person who scolded and judged you for making mistakes, made mistakes himself (or herself), one of which was.. to scold and judge you for making mistakes.

    I have been abusing myself for my mistakes, for all the guilts, for the shameful events, for the helpless situations and for not being able to stand for myself when I should have. In fact, your response has made be realise how badly I have been self-mortifying myself mentally and through unhealthy lifestyle for a long time“- when anticipating abuse from the outside, as a child (from a father, a teacher), the anticipation itself (not knowing when it will happen, and how badly it will hurt) has been excruciating, has it?

    So, you solved the anticipation difficulty problem.. by abusing yourself quickly, so to get the anticipation over with?

    anita

     

    #434911
    Helcat
    Participant

    Hi Anonymous

    It is good to hear from you again. 😊

    I’m glad that you have the opportunity to let out feelings deep inside and chose to come here and speak to understanding people instead of continuing that search. I will add that we are not qualified to help people and are not a replacement for a therapist. This is why upon hearing about suicidal thoughts, I recommended seeking professional help.

    I think having difficulties with identifying unhealthy behaviours and managing boundaries are common difficulties for people with trauma. Trauma itself, especially as a child primes us to accept abuse later on. It is difficult to overcome without professional support.

    Never being allowed to make mistakes is rough. That is like being told that you were never allowed to be human. All children do is make mistakes and in doing so they learn and overcome them. Everyone deserves love, compassion and the freedom to make mistakes and learn from them growing up.

    I’m sorry to hear that you struggle with self abuse. These things are learned behaviours. Now, you punish yourself for all of your “mistakes”. Just as when you were a child, you don’t deserve it today. Learning to love yourself is a great gift for a trauma survivor.

    Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏

    #435009
    Tommy
    Participant

    The past haunts us thru our memories. Remembering and thoughts about it, bring us back to those fears. Those emotions come back to the surface again. If you make the attempt to watch your mind then you will see your emotions are very fast. Then, your thoughts will follow to support those emotions. Self observation will help you figure out how your mind works.

    After you regained control over your emotions, you will find that you feel something missing. That is the constant echoing of the mind. The sinking feeling of past. Now you must take courses to change your life. YouTube has Charisma University. Learn how to be charming. Watch some of their videos. When you make people smile, laugh and feel good about themselves, they will seek you out. Then, you also need self defense courses. Go with the wife to learn to protect yourself. This is to regain the feeling of being safe in your own shoes. That is something that abuse takes away. Take it back. It all starts with you. Bring back the positive into your life. Make yourself happy.

    Ok, I know it is silly advice. And, no one wants to think less of themselves by taking life courses. Trying to improve. But, for me, it is about changing focus from the past and abuse to right now.

    I know I am not charming. I speak my mind. Straight forward. This is what I see. Do you know what 99% of people think right after they jump off a bridge or building. They want to stop. Change their minds. Well, you have to change your mind. Make the decision to take control.

    Okay, I know I am not so smart as others nor am I so compassionate. Also, I can be quite rude. But, I don’t want to see anyone hurt themselves. Please.

    #435148
    anita
    Participant

    How are you, anonymous?

    anita

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