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August 14, 2025 at 12:18 am #448564
Tee
ParticipantDear Alessa,
my holiday is going fine, thanks. Much more limited in terms of mobility, so sightseeing, hiking and similar enjoyable activities are out of the question. But still, there’s swimming, eating ice-cream and just sitting by the sea, and I find joy in that too 🙂
That’s great to hear you are setting boundaries with your mother. It is a shame that she doesn’t take them too well. Sadly, expected.
Yeah, and it’s good that I am much less triggered when interacting with her (which is rare to begin with), and so I can mostly remain calm and composed. I used to overreact and yell at her when she said something nasty, and she used it as a proof that I’m the bad one, the crazy one, and that I’m abusing her. I’ve learned since that if I overreact, she’ll use it against me, and so it was important for me to learn emotional regulation.
I think the difficulty comes in, is if your mother is unwilling to meet your needs and boundaries. Like mine sadly was. Then you have to consider how much you want to invest in your relationship with her.
Yes, my relationship with her is very limited nowadays. We don’t live in the same country and I only meet her when going on holidays. She hasn’t changed but I have, and so I’m managing my interactions with her better. I don’t feel completely drained and defeated around her anymore.
The way my therapist said it was, think of her as someone who is sick and don’t expect much.
Yes, definitely. I’ve learned that a couple of years ago, and so my expectations are minimal. Still, when I experience her crossing my boundaries, and then feeling offended and telling me that I’m evil for expressing my needs – well, I’m not going to stay silent. I won’t start yelling at her like before, but I’m going to point it out. And then she usually drops it and changes the subject.
But I know she believes I’m a bad daughter, at least in those moments she does. But it doesn’t bother me anymore, because I don’t need her validation any longer. So I’m fine with standing up for myself, even if I know she won’t like me for that 🙂
I don’t really think in terms of right or wrong anymore. I try to look behind at the need that is being expressed and understand the other person’s emotional experience.
You don’t have to take responsibility for someone else’s experience, but I find that showing care for people when they are hurt, even when they lash out is important. I have found that it facilitates communication. Anger begets anger, but meeting anger with kindness can soften it.
Yes, I know what you mean. You show kindness and understanding for the person, even if they overreact or do or say something nasty – because you know that behind their bad behavior is an unmet need. And that they’re hurting. And that their overreaction or abusive behavior towards another may be a defense mechanism.
I find that a truly valuable approach and key in conflict resolution. To get people to communicate and express what hurt them, and also to acknowledge their genuine need. However, there are situations where you validate someone’s pain, show them empathy and kindness, and your willingness to talk things through. You extend your hand and your heart.
But all you get is their defenses getting stronger, their walls going up, and the person refusing any contact. Because you haven’t aligned with them and only them in the conflict, but instead, you’re trying to see everyone’s perspective and acknowledge everyone’s hurt. You’re trying to mediate, but they see it as betrayal.
I totally agree that anger begets anger, and doesn’t facilitate communication. But sometimes even kindness begets anger, if the person perceives your kindness to others as betrayal of them.
And I think those are conflicts that cannot be resolved unfortunately, no matter how kind and understanding we are with the person.
August 14, 2025 at 3:44 am #448566Alessa
ParticipantHi Lucidity
That is beautiful to hear that you’re teaching your children communication skills that will help them throughout their lives. ❤️
Thank you for sharing your experiences and perspective as a parent. 😊 It makes sense. It is easy to worry, but it is important to enjoy the present with them.
It seems like teaching my son to walk without a pram may sort itself out when he gets a scooter. His favourite thing right now is pushing his own pram. It helps him to stay focused and gives him something to do instead of wandering.
Today is a rough day. I forgot to take my medicine yesterday and I had a PTSD episode last night and didn’t sleep well. Then the stress today, plus toddler and puppy chaos. I could feel my temper rising. I managed to keep it down though. I’m feeling overwhelmed at the moment.
It is hard being a parent sometimes. Have you ever experienced anything like this?
I am trying to stay calm and reduce stress in my life. I just… don’t know if I can stay here with all of this going on. I’m just trying to hold things together for my son. I wish that I had stronger emotional regulation skills so I could cope with everything. I understand that these are just normal problems. It helped to see my son have fun playing in the mess he had made and of course try to pretend to tidy it up.
I appreciate your potty training advice. The difficulty is he doesn’t like sitting on the potty. He stays on it for a second then complains. The closest he has gotten is peeing on top of the lid of a closed potty whilst standing.
It is lovely learning from a mum who has been through it all before. ❤️
August 14, 2025 at 11:08 pm #448609Alessa
ParticipantHi Tee
I’m glad that you’re still able to enjoy your holiday despite the limited mobility. I know that struggle of adapting to life with limited mobility and trying to find new ways to enjoy life. ❤️
Thank you for sharing the experiences with your mother! That is good to hear you are less triggered when talking to her. Well done on getting past the learned conditioning from her and focusing on regulating your emotions!
I think that is incredible you don’t get weighted down by the interactions with your mother anymore. That’s a really significant achievement and so healthy.
It sounds like you’ve really got a handle on how to manage conflict with your mother. 😊
You are most definitely not evil, or a bad daughter for expressing your needs. You’re a pretty awesome person. I’m glad that you stand up for yourself. You deserve it! ❤️
Yes, I have definitely experienced losing friends and family because I won’t take sides. I’m just not a tribal kind of person and that rubs some people up the wrong way.
It is a shame when that happens, but it is what it is. I just move on when that happens. It really isn’t possible to have a relationship with someone who doesn’t want it. Believe me, I tried with my adopted mother. 😂
It is a shame because she was not willing to meet my needs or respect my boundaries. Her agoraphobia became much worse over COVID and unfortunately, she showed little interest in my family. I didn’t want my son to feel rejected by her being such an infrequent figure in his life, especially given that we live so close by. All I did was simply stop pursuing and she hasn’t bothered.
I’m an adult, I can cope with difficulties. My son is a sensitive child and I want to protect him from things like that. There are things that I can protect him from as a parent and things that I can’t. The less trauma he has to deal with in his life, the better in my opinion. Better now while he’s still young and doesn’t understand. Hopefully, he won’t even remember.
I wondered if I did the right thing recently.
Part of me wants to be there for my mother too. I understand her difficulties. It is not fair to him though. These things being so one sided.
Take care 🥰
August 15, 2025 at 1:55 am #448612Lucidity
ParticipantHi Alessa
My younger son would only stand up to pee too. I ended up placing his potty on a large, wipeable mat for obvious reasons 😉 I also let him pee outside in the garden by a tree we had so that he could pee standing and have some independence over it because, when he used the potty, I would be quick to wipe the mat clean and I guess me reminding him to aim inside the potty would have gotten annoying for him. I also stuck stickers that would reveal cartoon characters when they got wet to the bottom of his potty to encourage him to pee in it but didn’t consider that they would invite inquisitive hands in.
I’m sorry to learn that you are not doing well right now, that you are experiencing PTSD symptoms, and are stressed. Are you referring to the stress that is currently going on because of the now weeks long discord on these forums? If so, and with no disrespect to the gravity of what is going on here in the forums, but there is only so much we can do before we have to decide what is the best way forward for us in this present moment – not forever, or for this week or month even – just whatever is better for us in that moment. You seem like a very caring and kind person. This is obviously your choice, but if you are finding the forum too much for you right now then you should take a break from it. No matter how bad things get here, if it is interfering with your physical health then I think you should put your own wellbeing and self care first. You have a young son who relies on you as his mother and I am sure you will have other responsibilities too ❤️
August 15, 2025 at 2:17 am #448613Lucidity
ParticipantHey Tee
I see you there – “Sometimes what hurts more is when bad behavior is rationalized and when guilt is “evenly distributed”. As in “we all have wounds and false perceptions, and so in a conflict, we’re all equally guilty. It’s everyone’s fault and no one’s fault. Now let’s continue as if nothing happened”.”
For sure 🙁 I know this dynamic well as it is one that I experienced as a result of being raised in an unsafe family:
1 We raise an issue
2 We are either
A) gaslit for bringing it up (we might get “No, that didnt happen” or something similar back)
B) or are attacked for bringing it up (we might get a passive aggressive “And whos fault was that?” or something similar)
3) The issue is left unresolved but life continues as if nothing had happenedwith steps 1 – 3 going on into infinity. It’s a toxic cycle. I put up with it for so long growing up that it moulded my personality. Breaking out of it and inspecting myself for who I was underneath all of the defence mechanisms was a massive undertaking.
Sounds like you are on holiday. Enjoy your time away ❤️
August 17, 2025 at 12:58 pm #448706Alessa
ParticipantHi Lucidity
Thanks, so much it is helpful to know what works and what doesn’t. We have a singing potty. So when he pees in it a tune plays. 😊
That’s very kind of you to say! I’m starting to feel better. The PTSD is still there but it doesn’t hurt as much anymore. If things get too much, I will definitely bounce. ❤️
August 18, 2025 at 12:54 pm #448724Alessa
ParticipantHi Everyone
My son isn’t well. If you pray and wouldn’t mind praying for him, that would be much appreciated. ❤️
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