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December 20, 2025 at 1:12 pm #453168
AlessaParticipantDear Anita
Iβm glad to hear that youβre enjoying developing a positive inner voice too! π€
Thanks for your kindness, as well as sharing your thoughts and feelings. π€
I think heβs getting more and more interested in potty training these days. He actually felt comfortable sitting on the potty for a while. It was a first! I didnβt even coax him into it. I am a proud mama. π€
Hmm, I guess I donβt think of it as empathy in the traditional sense. I just logically think about different aspects of reality from a distance like a puzzle, trying to fit the pieces together and see the picture. π€
I think itβs understandable to be angry about not getting an apology after all of that abuse. π«
Hmm well my thoughts might be different from yours. Iβm curious to hear what yours are too. In my experience, people who donβt want to acknowledge the severity of the pain theyβve caused have a difficult time apologising. True remorse means feeling the pain. For people who are so triggered by pain, they try and avoid it preferring to live in the comfort of denial. And yet, it cannot be denied entirely. I believe these things eat away at them and further their self-hatred. π€
It isnβt really fair for the victims of abuse that they are denied out of pure selfishness. π€
Yes, there is a difference between hyperbole and these things being said as a genuine threat. I guess, I donβt view intrusive thoughts as a genuine threat. Please donβt worry, talking about these things isnβt upsetting to me.
Iβm sorry that your mother threatened you like that. Mine did too. It is a terrifying experience to feel like your life is in danger with your own mother. Things should never be this way. π€
December 20, 2025 at 2:34 pm #453172
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for your two messages, this one and the one you submitted in my thread. I want to respond to both later tonight. I am looking forward to doing so!
π€ π€ π€ Anita
December 20, 2025 at 7:46 pm #453176
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
“I am a proud mama. π€” thumbs up for mama Alessa π€π€π€!
“I think itβs understandable to be angry about not getting an apology after all of that abuse.”- that ship (the apology ship) has shipped long, long ago.
“In my experience, people who donβt want to acknowledge the severity of the pain theyβve caused have a difficult time apologising. True remorse means feeling the pain. For people who are so triggered by pain, they try and avoid it preferring to live in the comfort of denial. And yet, it cannot be denied entirely. I believe these things eat away at them and further their self-hatred. π€”-
I understand the difficulty in self-reflecting and holding oneself accountable. I understand that bad people have their own struggles. By bad, I mean people who repeatedly harm FOR DECADES, blaming their victims.
“I donβt view intrusive thoughts as a genuine threat. Please donβt worry, talking about these things isnβt upsetting me”- Thank you π
“Iβm sorry that your mother threatened you like that. Mine did too. It is a terrifying experience to feel like your life is in danger with your own mother. Things should never be this way. π€”- Yes, things shouldn’t be this way.
ππ€π Anita
December 22, 2025 at 3:45 pm #453219
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
I imagine that by the time you read this message it’ll be one day before Christmas Eve.
I want to let you know that I consider two things you did for me as two ππ you left under my (imagined) π:
One is addressing me as “Dear Anita”, and the other is replacing red hearts emojis with blue and white.
I would like to place a gift under your Christmas tree: my sincere appreciation of your consistent empathy and kindness to me and to so many members over the years.
I wish you and the people you love a M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S β¨π βοΈβππππβ¨π€Άβ¨βοΈ
Anita
December 23, 2025 at 6:31 am #453235
AlessaParticipantDear Anita
Bless your soul! Thank you for your kindness and Christmas wishes. π€
Do you celebrate Hanukkah? π€
I think itβs sweet how you remember what time zone Iβm in. π€
It was the least I could do. Please feel free to make any other requests. I truly wish to make you feel comfortable. π π€
Thank you for seeing me! It is a wonderful gift to be seen and it means a lot coming from you. You have put in so much effort and care here. π€
I wish that I had more time. I am always here for you, for anything. I always at least check, even on the days when Iβm too busy to write. So if you are ever having a bad day, please write and I will answer. π€
My thoughts are with you and Bogart. Iβm sure that he will make this holiday season extra special for you. π€
December 23, 2025 at 8:23 am #453246
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
You are very welcome, my friendΒ π€
No, I don’t celebrate any holiday, not because of a principle on the matter, it just so happens!
About Hanukkah, back when I grew up, part of the celebration of Hanukkah was eating jelly donuts. You got to eat them only during this one holiday and never outside the holiday. They were always fresh and homemade because there was no other kind. Fast forward, in my later 20s, I found myself in Los Angeles, and I was shocked to see jelly (and other) donuts made and sold every single day of the year! I was a faithful customer π
Thank you for offering me to make other requests and to write if I’m having a bad day- same offers to you π€
Bogart woke up very early, and so did I. I think it’s because he was very thirsty. I suppose I should offer him water before closing the bedroom door where he sleeps. I so hope that he and I will complete the 5.5 km walk today- that makes any day special for me πΆπ
And my thoughts are with you and your loved ones this holiday π¨βπ©βπ§βπ¦πππ π
Β π€π π π€Anita
December 23, 2025 at 3:41 pm #453263
AlessaParticipantDear Anita
It makes my heart happy to hear you call me a friend. π€
Happy holidays this winter! π€
I understand, I donβt particularly have a fondness for holiday celebrations. I was raised to not celebrate them. I exchange presents because it is what people do and I eat Christmas dinner because I like a roast dinner. There is a Christmas tree for my son, I believe it is nice for him to have the experience. It was not pleasant to be excluded from festivities as a child.
Not eating delicious doughnuts you are surrounded with would be a cruel fate. π€
Iβm sorry that I donβt have time to write more tonight. I hope to reply to your thread tomorrow. π€
December 23, 2025 at 8:32 pm #453270
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
“It makes my heart happy to hear you call me a friend”-
Definitely my friend, Alessa, no doubt in my mind about it.
Thank you for being my friend, Alessa! (many thank you emojis I’m too tired to summon right mow)
Anita
December 24, 2025 at 8:24 am #453287
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
thank you for sharing with me more about your mother and why she chose to seek help. Yeah, it doesn’t seem it was for the right reasons, I mean she didn’t seek help because she was dangerous to her children but to herself. But the good part is that the authorities were informed and you eventually started going to therapy, and so the ball started rolling…
I understand your feelings about her not wanting to admit what she did and just giving you a general apology “for whatever she might have done wrong that she doesn’t remember”. I guess a part of her didn’t even want to admit it to herself.
It’s interesting she was discussing what you did to protect yourself from SA with her friend… was it because she wanted to paint you in a bad light, maybe prove that you were aggressive or rebellious with her, without disclosing what actually caused that aggression?
When I was a child I just hated my mother and recognised that I was becoming like her. I didnβt want to become like her. She told me that I was just like her. I tried my best to change as much as I could.
You definitely have changed a lot – you’ve changed yourself and you’ve changed the outcomes for your son! You can be really proud of yourself!! β€οΈ
And I think your mother was sort of brainwashing you into believing that you were just like her, when you were nothing like. You were a caring sister who was taking her of her little brother at the tender age of 4 or 5, if I remember well, while your mother was depriving you of food, for example.
I think telling those things to you was a way for her to feel better about herself and put you down. I’m glad she didn’t manage you convince you that your destiny will be the same as hers. You’ve risen above your trauma and are trailblazing a new path… it’s pretty remarkable β¨ β€οΈ
I am glad that your son got a place in a nursery that you prefer, even if it will happen a few months later. But as you said, it will give you more time to mentally prepare for the idea, and even do the potty training. π It’s cute that he is showing more and more interest in the potty and was even sitting on it willingly. That’s a great development, proud mama Alessa! π
It is a difficult position to be in with the damaging effects of constant verbal abuse are only recently being acknowledged and previously constantly dismissed. Gaslighting, to the extreme. No one deserves to suffer alone. Iβm glad that you fought for yourself to get through it all.
Yes, it’s insidious because the child feels sorry for their sad mother and wants to help her, and then feels bad for not being able to cheer her up. That part is perhaps the most damaging because it gives you a sense of hopelessness and helplessness, which later spills into other areas of life.
So it’s very soul-crushing… and I wasn’t even aware of this hopeless part of me until I’ve started experiencing chronic health problem, particularly loss of mobility. π And it’s still hard to deal with, but at least now I know that the hopelessness is almost a conditioned response, it stems from my childhood. And I can counter it by working with my inner child…
I’m glad you liked the resources about somatic tracking – I hope it will help you with chronic pain issues. And yes, it was a revelation for me too that just stress in itself can cause physical symptoms (such as lower back pain or neck pain), even though there is no actual physical injury.
But where there is an actual injury, it’s very tricky, because usually we think that the increase in pain means that the physical condition is worsening too, e.g. a bulge getting worse, which then brings the fear of surgery and other catastrophizing thoughts.
It was a huge relief for me to learn that back pain can get worse due to stress (muscle contractions) and sensitization of nerve endings. And so more pain doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m in a greater danger. The solution is to simply wait it out, till the flare is gone, and things will get better… anyway, you know all that, having been living with chronic pain yourself. π« But it’s good, as long at it’s manageable! π€ π
Merry Christmas to you once again!! β¨ π β€οΈ
December 27, 2025 at 3:56 pm #453427
AlessaParticipantHi Everyone
Sorry, I donβt have much to say today. I cannot collect my thoughts well. It is a rough day, Iβm having a flare up.
Thinking of you all. π©΅
December 27, 2025 at 4:30 pm #453431
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
I just read for the first time what you posted half an hour ago. I am so sorry you are having a flare up (I wonder what kind.. physical, PTSD..?). I am thinking of you too. Please do your best to take care of yourself at this time.
π©΅π©΅π©΅ Anita
December 27, 2025 at 9:40 pm #453435
AlessaParticipantDear Anita
Thank you, my friend! It is the fibromyalgia. I ran out of medication over the holidays. I will hopefully get some more by the end of tomorrow π€
Thank you for checking in. Iβm thinking about you too! It is so nice to read your pupventures.π€
Blue is my favourite colour. π
December 27, 2025 at 11:56 pm #453437
TeeParticipantDear Alessa,
sorry to hear about your flare-up π’ I hope you can restock on your medication ASAP and that it will get better soon. Hold on, Alessa, and please take it easy!
π€ π β€οΈ
December 28, 2025 at 1:07 am #453438
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Thank you Tee! I was sorry to read that you also experience central sensitisation too. It isnβt a pleasant experience. π©΅
Iβm trying to stay very calm. I dare say, that I have no choice than to take it easy. My body has grounded me.
Funnily enough, medication for pain relief these days is turning to neurotransmitters. Not because of mental health, but it turns out neurotransmitters manage a lot of functions in the body. Serotonin apparently blocks pain signals in the spinal cord. And regulates sleep, which is very important for managing pain sensitivity.
Iβm trying to learn about other ways to get serotonin. Exercise and sunlight mostly. With some fruits and vegetables being a source that is easy to absorb. I didnβt realise that sunlight helps with serotonin. Iβm going to try using my electric bike for some gentle exercise outside. See if that helps. π©΅
December 28, 2025 at 11:28 am #453458
anitaParticipantDear Alessa, my friend:
I hope that you got your medications by this time..???
I am having a tough time myself. Last night I destroyed my computer when I allowed Bogart to sit by me and move things around and then I spilled something on the computer, I don’t know how much money a new one will cost. So, I am feeling an increase in anxiety.
“Blue is my favourite colour.”- π©΅ π©΅ π©΅ π©΅ π©΅ π©΅ π©΅
Anita
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