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December 23, 2025 at 6:00 am #453234
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Merry Christmas! 🎄
I understand what you mean. I think as well that perhaps ego might not be the best choice of words for some phenomenon. 🩵
The way I think about it, language is a social construct that is supposed to alert us to danger before it becomes violence or results in negative consequences.
When social constructs are adhered to, people ideally don’t perceive a threat. When language becomes negative, people start to perceive danger. Is that ego? Or is it just that life is uncertain and this aspect of language serves a necessary social function? 🩵
Do I think James means badly? No. He is just James. 🩵
I can say that I don’t always say everything I think when answering people on the forum. It is not my place to comment on how people should live their lives. I’m not opposed to people who do have that style though. Everyone is different. 🩵
I can see how some people might interpret that as a lie or fakeness. It aligns with my values to support people regardless and encourage their autonomy. I think that from this lens, it takes the sting out of edgy words like lie and fake. 🩵
Much love 🩵
December 23, 2025 at 7:51 am #453244
James123ParticipantDear Tee,
My words are for the people who extremely suffers (as loved one loss, losing completely everything etc…), who has a heart to accept the Truth and who is willing to die for God.
So, you can have a nice life and doesn’t need anything, sure. But, it will catch you when death comes, sooner or later.
So enjoy as much as you can. And remember these words when giving the last breath, otherwise surrendering will be too difficult and you willl even feel that your dna burns.
Peace.
December 23, 2025 at 11:57 am #453255
anitaParticipantDear James / Everyone:
I really appreciated Alessa’s comment: “Do I think James means badly? No. He is just James.”
I feel the same. From everything I’ve seen, James’s intentions have consistently been good, and his way of expressing things has actually been increasingly helpful to me.Looking back at James’s posts since July 18, what stands out is how steady and kind his tone was for a long time. He responded with patience, empathy, and openness, and was often kind and supportive.
Since Sept 2, the discussions around his messages became more intense. Some of the responses to him were very strong, and in my view, a number of the criticisms were based on assumptions or interpretations that didn’t match what he was actually saying and they seem unfair or unfounded.
What I noticed is that James continued to respond calmly and kindly for a long time, even when the tone toward him became sharp and sharper. It wasn’t until October 5 that James sounded defensive (as far as I can tell), and given the amount of pressure he had been under, I can understand how that can happen. One moment of frustration doesn’t erase months of steady, well‑intentioned, and valuable communication.
I also want to acknowledge my own part. At times, I joined in the criticism. I’ve apologized for that, and this message is part of my effort to take responsibility and express things more clearly.
I hope this helps bring a bit more balance to how we look at the recent interactions. For me, James’s way of expressing things has value, even if it doesn’t resonate with everyone. And I think all of us are doing our best to communicate from where we are.
I intend to continue to quote James’s words every day (later today) and learn from them.
Thank you, James!
🤍🤍🤍 Anita
December 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm #453257
TeeParticipantHi Alessa,
I appreciate you trying to understand everyone, see everything through an extremely kind and accepting lens, and give everyone the benefit of the doubt, even if their words might be unjustly harsh and critical.
The way I think about it, language is a social construct that is supposed to alert us to danger before it becomes violence or results in negative consequences.
Many times, the ultimate argument is that language has limitations. And so if there is conflict and an unwillingness to hear each other and respect each other’s perspective (even if we disagree), we can blame it on the language, and so no one gets offended.
In my opinion, James said some pretty unequivocal things, which cannot be explained differently than him telling us that we’re stuck in the ego and are lying to ourselves. Here are some examples:
Dec 13-15:
Just i recommend to you, actually to all to stop these playing house games, but get real.
Many of you here to say kind words or saying ah darling you are so good stuff or heart emojis stiff… But all is a lie. İf anyone ask anyone here to borrow the money, they will never get back to that person.
So, everyone should stop pretending to be good and get real.
you guys are not even aware that you lie to yourself.
You guys haven’t meet with the devil/you yet. And i am offering to you to meet.
When death comes, your these squeamish personalities will burn till not even ashes left from you. Surrender before too late.
The self improvement is self / mental masturbation.
And (Sept 25):
İf anyone says spirituality is self-improvement. They just want to sell. Don’t buy that. İf sellers make people feel good, sellers makes money. However, if anyone hears what real Spirituality is, all of you guys run. Because, even in this forum, everyone try to impose them beliefs.
Dec 18:
What was said by me was not to you and all people in forum at all. İt was said to separate self’s, which is the one who got offended by what was said etc…
Curiously enough, James accused us of imposing our own beliefs, when that’s what he has been doing all along. None of us has been imposing our own beliefs on this forum – people have been discussing things and respectfully sharing their perspectives. But then came James and concluded that “people are imposing their beliefs”. Accusing the others of what he himself has been doing.
I can say that I don’t always say everything I think when answering people on the forum. It is not my place to comment on how people should live their lives. I’m not opposed to people who do have that style though. Everyone is different.
I can see how some people might interpret that as a lie or fakeness. It aligns with my values to support people regardless and encourage their autonomy. I think that from this lens, it takes the sting out of edgy words like lie and fake.
Interesting perspective… so you’re not actually bothered by someone telling you that you’re living a lie, or that your kindness is fake?
To be honest, I don’t think we should try to take the edge off of stingy words (someone’s arbitrary accusations) – without addressing that sting. Because stings hurt. Stings can be abusive. Words can both build and destroy. So we must ask: why the sting, why these accusatory words? (and why the dire warnings of what will happen to us if we don’t heed his words (burning DNA and suchlike))?
James maybe believes that we’re in danger and need strong words to awaken. Maybe he believes that he is practicing tough love (which might involve using strong words to confront someone’s destructive behavior, for their own good).
But are we really in need of tough love? Are we asleep and need to awaken from our slumber before it’s too late? Or is James projecting those things on us?
Merry Christmas to you too, Alessa! ✨ ❤️
December 23, 2025 at 12:38 pm #453258
James123ParticipantDear People,
I have died many times and saw the hell or process of surrendering. And you have literally no idea what is waiting for you.
My last death, me never came back, not only me, the attachment of James, which is the even he breathes or sun that he get warms died.
This doesn’t mean that sun or air physically dies, but the attachment of James to air or sun dies. Therefore, entire universe dies.
So, not only body anything and everything you attached will be burn with death. And it is timeless till completely surrendering.
And if you experience that for even 30 minutes, believe me, mental hospital or best drug won’t be able to calm you down and will go insane.
I am here to warn you.
Peace.
December 23, 2025 at 2:23 pm #453260
AlessaParticipantHi James
I know that you have had some extremely difficult experiences with your health and I’m so sorry that you suffered through. 🩵
I hear that cultures in the east have a focus on preparing for death. To ease the transition. So I agree that it is important, especially as old age and illness can cause a lot of suffering. It is a shame that the west doesn’t explore these things more actively. 🩵
I guess… Everyone has different experiences. I drowned and had to be resuscitated, I found it quite peaceful.
I’ve had some fun experiences with feeling surgery whilst awake. *sarcasm*
And medicine has saved my life.
Then again I have had health issues that made me long for death because quality of life is important.
I came into this world through a lot of abuse. I experienced more. But I have also met some amazing people who have helped me. I do believe that kindness is healing. I do believe that the good outweighs the bad, but it is important to actually look for it.
Like you say, getting up in the morning is a blessing. A lesson you only really learn when you have things once taken for granted taken away from you. 🩵
Life is a mixed bag, you make what you can of it. For what it is worth, I’m glad that we are all here today. 🩵
December 23, 2025 at 3:14 pm #453261
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
I hear what you are saying. 🩵
My point is that it is natural to be offended by language such as this. It is what we have been socialised to do. 🩵
It is difficult because everyone has their own perspective to compromise and meet in the middle sometimes. 🩵
Hmm, I’m used to reading some esoteric philosophical texts. To explain how some perceive reality. There is our individual perspective, then there is reality. By the nature of being alive we all impose our own individual perspective. And psychology recognises the interplay of our personal experiences in relationships.
My favourite explanation of reality is visiting Paris. If you visit on a holiday you see a certain aspect of Paris. But there two million people living in Paris, each with their own unique memories and experiences. What is Paris? One person’s recollection? All recollections? Is it the physical place that they all live? What is the truth? 🩵
I feel a mild flutter, but I’m not bothered by it. I trust myself and as you say, look for the best in others. Maybe he isn’t necessarily talking about me. If he is, oh well. He doesn’t know me. Perhaps he is simply talking about pain with burning dna? I have felt pain that I could describe as burning. Perhaps it is just a religious belief? I’m not threatened by a religious belief that I don’t share. 🩵
I don’t sense bad intentions, just words that ruffle feathers sometimes. I’m used to talking to men. A lot of men ruffle feathers. A lack of softness can be viewed as masculinity by some.
I understand. It is good to express how you feel. I don’t judge you for it. 🩵
I guess my perspective is that relationships to words can change. When we are children, we can be very sensitive to harsh words and it can cause a huge amount of damage. Whereas, say with time and healing other words can be less painful compared to difficult memories. Even difficult memories, can be let go of and forgiveness found. When you are confident in yourself, other peoples words don’t matter as much. Perhaps I am finding excuses. But for me, there are lines which have not been crossed. So I’m willing to give benefit of doubt. I’m sure that we have all heard far harsher words. 🩵
Hmmm do I necessarily agree with edgy language? No. Do I share James’s perspective and beliefs? No.
Do you we all deserve to be treat with love and kindness? I believe that we do. 🩵
At the very least, we have had some interesting discussions. Calmer language might not have the same results. I am curious. 🩵
December 24, 2025 at 12:54 am #453274
TeeParticipantHi James,
I have died many times and saw the hell or process of surrendering. And you have literally no idea what is waiting for you.
My last death, me never came back, not only me, the attachment of James, which is the even he breathes or sun that he get warms died.
Did you have an NDE? (or more of them?) If you’d like to share more about the circumstances under which this happened, I’d be interested to read. It seems it was both a liberating and a scary experience? I guess scary for the ego, as you’re saying everything “burns” (not just the body and the DNA) but also our personality, i.e. the ego? And in your experience, no individuality remains, no soul?
People have had quite different NDEs – some saw only love and light, others saw images of hell, and then used it to warn people. (Many years ago I’ve read one such warning testimony by a woman named Gloria Gallo, who was struck by lightning and miraculously survived. But I can’t find it now, perhaps I remember her name wrongly).
There is also a book on the after-life called Journey of Souls, by Michael Newton, which actually talks about our soul being preserved after death and going through a process of healing and learning.
I’ve just watched about an NDE experience by a woman struck by lightning (if anyone is interested, it’s on youtube, the video is called “Struck by Lightning: the skeptic discovers life after death (NDE)”). She had a beautiful experience, she felt like home, she got many answers (e.g. she saw that a soul chooses their parents before it incarnates, which was interesting to me because I’ve heard it before).
She was a skeptic, didn’t believe in life after death, but the NDE changed that. Now she says: “I did not believe in life after death, I thought when you die that’s it, it’s over, lights out, you’re done… and that is not the case, consciousness survives.”
Anyway, it seems she had a different experience than you, James. I’m not questioning your experience, I just find it fascinating that different people have different experiences. This woman (Elizabeth Krohn, who was struck by lightning) also said that everybody is presented a different image of heaven, I guess depending on what certain things mean to them. It’s all very individual.
Alessa, I didn’t know you had a NDE too! I remember you mentioned you almost drowned once, but I didn’t know you needed to be resuscitated. And that you left your body – wow!
So, not only body anything and everything you attached will be burn with death. And it is timeless till completely surrendering.
And if you experience that for even 30 minutes, believe me, mental hospital or best drug won’t be able to calm you down and will go insane.
It sounds like you had a scary experience, James, or at least an experience that changed your life. I’d be interested to know more about your NDE and how it came about, if you feel like sharing.
December 24, 2025 at 10:25 am #453291
James123ParticipantDear Tee,
What happened to was during the meditation. I lived in darkness and silence for 1 year and meditated around 8 to 10 hours per day.
So, NDE is still function under the mind. But meditation is beyond mind and body, which is end of experiencing.
After all these sufferings James has died and i am always what i am. James was just a habit like smoking cigarettes.
There is no life after physical death. Whet you have learned in this life, stays in this life.
The core of the so called soul is nothingness or before physical birth.
NDE might be some nice experience, yet when it comes to surrendering to non experience or nothingness, things will be change.
I had a open heart surgery and NDE. But it is just the beginning of the process. Because, it is death of heart, not brain. What I am saying is the death of brain, which is surrendering the experiencer.
Peace.
Peace.
December 24, 2025 at 12:48 pm #453292
anitaParticipantDear James:
This morning, I feel stupid (and that’s okay). ALL THIS TIME, I thought you were speaking from a Non‑Duality perspective, but now I see that you used the language of NON-DUALITY, but your actual view is NIHILISM.
Nihilism says there’s nothing underneath or beyond the personal self. Non‑duality says the personal self isn’t ultimately real, but instead of “nothing,” it points to an impersonal awareness or consciousness that everything arises from and returns to, saying that individual people are like waves in the ocean, waves arise (born) and fall (die) but the ocean (universal, non-personal consciousness) remains.
You say: there is no ocean. There is Nothing.
Non-duality says: the personal self is not ultimately real, but what remains is awareness (the ocean), not Nothing. Death dissolves the person (the wave), but it does not dissolve consciousness (ocean). There is no ‘void’ to fear after death.
In your most recent post, James, you shared: “I lived in darkness and silence for 1 year and meditated around 8 to 10 hours per day.”-
This is an extreme, highly unusual kind of sensory deprivation and social isolation, James. That kind of experience can absolutely reshape someone’s worldview, but the direction it takes depends on the person, so I read:
Meditation doesn’t automatically produce peace or enlightenment. It amplifies whatever is already inside the person. So, if you were already leaning toward nihilism, then the 1-year sensory deprivation and isolation could have deepened and solidified your nihilism.
You believe life has no built‑in meaning. My goodness, James, this is NOT TRUE. But we’ll have to agree to disagree (at least, this is my intention).
I believe that there is a consciousness beyond individual death. You’re giving way TOO MUCH importance to the Ego when you claim, basically- that Nothing Else Exists (NEE, if you will, lol)
Anita
December 24, 2025 at 5:34 pm #453299
anitaParticipantDear James/ Everyone:
James, Dec 24: “There is no life after physical death… The core of the so called soul is nothingness… it comes to surrendering to non experience or nothingness, things will be change.”-
You’re basically saying:
1. When the body dies, that’s it- there is no life after death, no continuation of the self, no consciousness that survives.
2. The “soul” is not a real thing- the core of a person is nothingness, not an eternal essence. Before birth = nothing After death = nothing.
You’re basically telling people: ‘Don’t fool yourself with comforting stories (like NDEs). When the brain dies, there is no awareness left. Prepare yourself for that truth.’
What could possibly be the benefit is this message, I ask myself. According to you: to not be shocked, terrified and overwhelmed later on when one realizes that there’s no afterlife of any kind, no soul or consciousness that continues, no meaning.
Preparing now = reducing the shock later. Seeing “the nothing” early prevents disappointment later.
In your view: better to know now than later.
All this fits perfectly with the nihilistic worldview. This is NOT non‑duality
Non‑duality says: the personal self dissolves but awareness remains
James says: the personal self dissolves and awareness also ends.
Nihilism — the view that life has no inherent meaning, purpose, or value
Non‑duality — the view that separation is an illusion and everything is one unified reality
I read that Nihilism can help people, but only for a while. Sometimes nihilism is the first moment someone realizes: ‘I don’t have to believe everything I was taught.’, and ‘I can question everything.’ That can actually be freeing. It clears away old beliefs that don’t fit anymore. But nihilism stops being helpful when someone treats it like the final truth. If you stay in it too long, it can turn into: apathy, hopelessness, feeling like nothing matters
It’s like tearing down an old house: useful if the house is falling apart. Not useful if you try to live in the rubble.
For a lot of people, nihilism is a transition — a phase you pass through on the way to something deeper. It’s the moment when your old worldview collapses, but the new one hasn’t formed yet.
That’s why nihilism often shows up right before people discover ideas like non‑duality, spirituality, or a more grounded sense of meaning.
So, nihilism can help — but mostly as a step, not a destination.
Q: When someone rejects: religion, morality, purpose, cosmic meaning, spiritual ideas, objective values (nihilism).. what’s left?
A: Just the ego’s experience. So, the ego becomes the center of the universe by default — because everything else has been stripped away.
Non‑duality flips the whole thing: the ego is not the center. The ego is not the only thing that exists. The ego is not the source of reality Instead, it says: the ego is just a temporary appearance in a larger field of awareness. The ego is just one wave in that ocean
I, Anita, am just that, one wave in the ocean, temporary, never separate from the ocean. I want to be more and more the ocean.
I will do my best to be a humble wave in the ocean. Thank you for helping me in this regard, James. It’s just that I don’t want to engage in nihilism thought, my personal choice. So, goodbye James. I will no longer post in your threads. I wish you well.
🌊🌊🌊 Anita
December 24, 2025 at 9:08 pm #453305
James123ParticipantDear Anita,
Non duality and nihilism concepts belongs to mind.
Awareness and consciousness are nothingness.
There is no you to be aware, just Be.
Ask this question to yourself, where was awareness before your physical birth?
Peace.
December 24, 2025 at 9:28 pm #453307
anitaParticipantPeace back to you, Dear James. I already miss you, but Nihilism is not for me. It’s.. what’s the word.. “the devil”, using your word (in another context).
No way can I convince you otherwise, I won’t even try. I just don’t want to be any part of Nihilism. Not even close to it.
Nihilism is the devil way- more.. way more than the ego.
But like I said, no way do I think I have a chance to get my point across to you. I don’t even care of being “right”, it’s just that Nihilism is something I want nothing to do with.
I’ll miss you.. The potential of the meeting of the minds.
(sad face emojis)
December 25, 2025 at 12:15 am #453309
AlessaParticipantHi Tee
Yes, well I don’t know about left my body. But my body and mind went dark. Then there was white everywhere and a feeling of peace. 🩵
To be fair, I was pretty peaceful going into the whole experience. My trauma may have ironically saved my life. This was before I was assaulted and after I was free of my mother. So I was pretty happy. I didn’t want for anything. I knew to stay calm to preserve oxygen. I figured if it was my time to go, it was my time to go. 🩵
After I was resuscitated, I just went back to swimming, but I was a bit more careful. 🩵
December 25, 2025 at 12:30 am #453310
AlessaParticipantHi James
Seasons greetings! I suspect you don’t do Christmas being Muslim. Still wishing everyone well is a habit at this time of year. ❄️ 🩵
Hmm well having a baby, I can say that they are aware unborn, as much as any animal is. They urinate, they suck their thumb, wriggle, sleep, get hiccups, hear, taste, get scared. 🩵
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