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  • #453234
    Alessa
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    Hi Tee

    Merry Christmas! 🎄

    I understand what you mean. I think as well that perhaps ego might not be the best choice of words for some phenomenon. 🩵

    The way I think about it, language is a social construct that is supposed to alert us to danger before it becomes violence or results in negative consequences.

    When social constructs are adhered to, people ideally don’t perceive a threat. When language becomes negative, people start to perceive danger. Is that ego? Or is it just that life is uncertain and this aspect of language serves a necessary social function? 🩵

    Do I think James means badly? No. He is just James. 🩵

    I can say that I don’t always say everything I think when answering people on the forum. It is not my place to comment on how people should live their lives. I’m not opposed to people who do have that style though. Everyone is different. 🩵

    I can see how some people might interpret that as a lie or fakeness. It aligns with my values to support people regardless and encourage their autonomy. I think that from this lens, it takes the sting out of edgy words like lie and fake. 🩵

    Much love 🩵

    #453244
    James123
    Participant

    Dear Tee,

    My words are for the people who extremely suffers (as loved one loss, losing completely everything etc…), who has a heart to accept the Truth and who is willing to die for God.

    So, you can have a nice life and doesn’t need anything, sure. But, it will catch you when death comes, sooner or later.

    So enjoy as much as you can. And remember these words when giving the last breath, otherwise surrendering will be too difficult and you willl even feel that your dna burns.

    Peace.

    #453255
    anita
    Participant

    Dear James / Everyone:

    I really appreciated Alessa’s comment: “Do I think James means badly? No. He is just James.”
    I feel the same. From everything I’ve seen, James’s intentions have consistently been good, and his way of expressing things has actually been increasingly helpful to me.

    Looking back at James’s posts since July 18, what stands out is how steady and kind his tone was for a long time. He responded with patience, empathy, and openness, and was often kind and supportive.

    Since Sept 2, the discussions around his messages became more intense. Some of the responses to him were very strong, and in my view, a number of the criticisms were based on assumptions or interpretations that didn’t match what he was actually saying and they seem unfair or unfounded.

    What I noticed is that James continued to respond calmly and kindly for a long time, even when the tone toward him became sharp and sharper. It wasn’t until October 5 that James sounded defensive (as far as I can tell), and given the amount of pressure he had been under, I can understand how that can happen. One moment of frustration doesn’t erase months of steady, well‑intentioned, and valuable communication.

    I also want to acknowledge my own part. At times, I joined in the criticism. I’ve apologized for that, and this message is part of my effort to take responsibility and express things more clearly.

    I hope this helps bring a bit more balance to how we look at the recent interactions. For me, James’s way of expressing things has value, even if it doesn’t resonate with everyone. And I think all of us are doing our best to communicate from where we are.

    I intend to continue to quote James’s words every day (later today) and learn from them.

    Thank you, James!

    🤍🤍🤍 Anita

    #453257
    Tee
    Participant

    Hi Alessa,

    I appreciate you trying to understand everyone, see everything through an extremely kind and accepting lens, and give everyone the benefit of the doubt, even if their words might be unjustly harsh and critical.

    The way I think about it, language is a social construct that is supposed to alert us to danger before it becomes violence or results in negative consequences.

    Many times, the ultimate argument is that language has limitations. And so if there is conflict and an unwillingness to hear each other and respect each other’s perspective (even if we disagree), we can blame it on the language, and so no one gets offended.

    In my opinion, James said some pretty unequivocal things, which cannot be explained differently than him telling us that we’re stuck in the ego and are lying to ourselves. Here are some examples:

    Dec 13-15:

    Just i recommend to you, actually to all to stop these playing house games, but get real.

    Many of you here to say kind words or saying ah darling you are so good stuff or heart emojis stiff… But all is a lie. İf anyone ask anyone here to borrow the money, they will never get back to that person.

    So, everyone should stop pretending to be good and get real.

    you guys are not even aware that you lie to yourself.

    You guys haven’t meet with the devil/you yet. And i am offering to you to meet.

    When death comes, your these squeamish personalities will burn till not even ashes left from you. Surrender before too late.

    The self improvement is self / mental masturbation.

    And (Sept 25):

    İf anyone says spirituality is self-improvement. They just want to sell. Don’t buy that. İf sellers make people feel good, sellers makes money. However, if anyone hears what real Spirituality is, all of you guys run. Because, even in this forum, everyone try to impose them beliefs.

    Dec 18:

    What was said by me was not to you and all people in forum at all. İt was said to separate self’s, which is the one who got offended by what was said etc…

    Curiously enough, James accused us of imposing our own beliefs, when that’s what he has been doing all along. None of us has been imposing our own beliefs on this forum – people have been discussing things and respectfully sharing their perspectives. But then came James and concluded that “people are imposing their beliefs”. Accusing the others of what he himself has been doing.

    I can say that I don’t always say everything I think when answering people on the forum. It is not my place to comment on how people should live their lives. I’m not opposed to people who do have that style though. Everyone is different.

    I can see how some people might interpret that as a lie or fakeness. It aligns with my values to support people regardless and encourage their autonomy. I think that from this lens, it takes the sting out of edgy words like lie and fake.

    Interesting perspective… so you’re not actually bothered by someone telling you that you’re living a lie, or that your kindness is fake?

    To be honest, I don’t think we should try to take the edge off of stingy words (someone’s arbitrary accusations) – without addressing that sting. Because stings hurt. Stings can be abusive. Words can both build and destroy. So we must ask: why the sting, why these accusatory words? (and why the dire warnings of what will happen to us if we don’t heed his words (burning DNA and suchlike))?

    James maybe believes that we’re in danger and need strong words to awaken. Maybe he believes that he is practicing tough love (which might involve using strong words to confront someone’s destructive behavior, for their own good).

    But are we really in need of tough love? Are we asleep and need to awaken from our slumber before it’s too late? Or is James projecting those things on us?

    Merry Christmas to you too, Alessa! ✨ ❤️

    #453258
    James123
    Participant

    Dear People,

    I have died many times and saw the hell or process of surrendering. And you have literally no idea what is waiting for you.

    My last death, me never came back, not only me, the attachment of James, which is the even he breathes or sun that he get warms died.

    This doesn’t mean that sun or air physically dies, but the attachment of James to air or sun dies. Therefore, entire universe dies.

    So, not only body anything and everything you attached will be burn with death. And it is timeless till completely surrendering.

    And if you experience that for even 30 minutes, believe me, mental hospital or best drug won’t be able to calm you down and will go insane.

    I am here to warn you.

    Peace.

    #453260
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi James

    I know that you have had some extremely difficult experiences with your health and I’m so sorry that you suffered through. 🩵

    I hear that cultures in the east have a focus on preparing for death. To ease the transition. So I agree that it is important, especially as old age and illness can cause a lot of suffering. It is a shame that the west doesn’t explore these things more actively. 🩵

    I guess… Everyone has different experiences. I drowned and had to be resuscitated, I found it quite peaceful.

    I’ve had some fun experiences with feeling surgery whilst awake. *sarcasm*

    And medicine has saved my life.

    Then again I have had health issues that made me long for death because quality of life is important.

    I came into this world through a lot of abuse. I experienced more. But I have also met some amazing people who have helped me. I do believe that kindness is healing. I do believe that the good outweighs the bad, but it is important to actually look for it.

    Like you say, getting up in the morning is a blessing. A lesson you only really learn when you have things once taken for granted taken away from you. 🩵

    Life is a mixed bag, you make what you can of it. For what it is worth, I’m glad that we are all here today. 🩵

    #453261
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Tee

    I hear what you are saying. 🩵

    My point is that it is natural to be offended by language such as this. It is what we have been socialised to do. 🩵

    It is difficult because everyone has their own perspective to compromise and meet in the middle sometimes. 🩵

    Hmm, I’m used to reading some esoteric philosophical texts. To explain how some perceive reality. There is our individual perspective, then there is reality. By the nature of being alive we all impose our own individual perspective. And psychology recognises the interplay of our personal experiences in relationships.

    My favourite explanation of reality is visiting Paris. If you visit on a holiday you see a certain aspect of Paris. But there two million people living in Paris, each with their own unique memories and experiences. What is Paris? One person’s recollection? All recollections? Is it the physical place that they all live? What is the truth? 🩵

    I feel a mild flutter, but I’m not bothered by it. I trust myself and as you say, look for the best in others. Maybe he isn’t necessarily talking about me. If he is, oh well. He doesn’t know me. Perhaps he is simply talking about pain with burning dna? I have felt pain that I could describe as burning. Perhaps it is just a religious belief? I’m not threatened by a religious belief that I don’t share. 🩵

    I don’t sense bad intentions, just words that ruffle feathers sometimes. I’m used to talking to men. A lot of men ruffle feathers. A lack of softness can be viewed as masculinity by some.

    I understand. It is good to express how you feel. I don’t judge you for it. 🩵

    I guess my perspective is that relationships to words can change. When we are children, we can be very sensitive to harsh words and it can cause a huge amount of damage. Whereas, say with time and healing other words can be less painful compared to difficult memories. Even difficult memories, can be let go of and forgiveness found. When you are confident in yourself, other peoples words don’t matter as much. Perhaps I am finding excuses. But for me, there are lines which have not been crossed. So I’m willing to give benefit of doubt. I’m sure that we have all heard far harsher words. 🩵

    Hmmm do I necessarily agree with edgy language? No. Do I share James’s perspective and beliefs? No.

    Do you we all deserve to be treat with love and kindness? I believe that we do. 🩵

    At the very least, we have had some interesting discussions. Calmer language might not have the same results. I am curious. 🩵

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