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  • #210597
    Felix
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    Hey Folks. I am back = ))

    All the help I’ve gotten over the years has been beyond helpful and I am very grateful to those chimed in.

    So, I’ve finally gotten divorced. Moved on with my life. Started over. I’ll list the good and then what’s bad, and may be you can chime in again and throw some wise words my way to help me get through this.

    I am 40. Got a great job, great company. I moved out and got a very decent place of my own after the divorce. My dog is my life. I am eating healthy, working out, hiking, losing weight and getting my beautiful ass in shape. I have a great car. I am more or less intelligent and I feel much better than I felt after the divorce. I am sleeping well. Just took a short vacation so I could catch up on things and get some rest. I am appreciative of all the little things and I am thankful for what I have (especially my dog, who is my whole life). There are other good things, but I’ve listed the top ones.

    Here is where I am still struggling. I am completely alone. My parents are useless. My dad hasn’t called me once since the divorce and my mom is more toxic and immature that you can possibly imagine. My grandma is the only person in my life right now really cares, but she is 87 and can’t really do much. My stepdad is literally the only person who reaches out. Which is beyond ironic since he was a huge asshole most of his life, but lately has been the most decent person. I have 3 good friends and while they are not perfect, they are good guys and we hang out once in a while. I can’t even look at other women right now. For two reasons, because I still love my ex a lot and I can’t seem to let go. I’ve accepted the she is gone, but my heart can’t detach yet. I know it will happen, but right now I just can’t let go. I just can’t =\ She was my everything and at this point, I can’t imagine any kind of happy future without her by my side and me by her side….  And the second reason is that I am 40, I am not rich, I don’t own my own place, and I am still a bit out of shape. Also, women see through my anger right now and that’s a big turn off. So I am basically invisible to women and that’s making my low self esteem go even lower. I feel so isolated that’s I go for days without talking to anyone outside of work. I know this won’t last forever, but as someone who was very outgoing all my life, this is torture. And it’s hard, if not impossible, to make new friends at my ripe old age of 40 lol…. And then there is my debt. I will be severely limited in my spending habits for the next few years. I can’t spend any money on dating. I make good money, but every last penny is going to pay off my debt. All these obstacles are leaving me very isolated. I am not looking to jump into a relationship, but it’s hard to go on without human contact, without sex and intimacy, without a social life, without someone close to me. Humans are not meant to be in isolation. And my self esteem is very low right now. I am working on EVERYTHING and I will work even harder after this short vacation, but it’s very depressing being alone. Sad to say, because I am a bit more conservative when it comes to relationships, but I am even willing to find someone for casual dating, if you know what I mean, but since I’ve never met someone for just that purpose, it’s like rocket science to me. And I am not here to badger women, but I live in LA and women in LA expect you to be tall, dark, handsome, and rich. I am tall, dark, and handsome and soon to be in shape, but I am not rich. And like it or not that’s a big turn off for women. They don’t care about me, they care about status and other superficial things. And I’ve just become the opposite of that. I used to be superficial, but none of that matters to me anymore. I love this life for what is real, not for what society tells us is important.

     

    Anyway, if you have any thoughts, drop me a line here. I would love to know what you think and how I can get beyond this and get back to being the happy me that I remember. I was so happy before and was surrounded by friends and family. Now, I am mostly alone and I am not sure how to handle it emotionally. I want go get out there and start living again, but I feel like an outsider, a weirdo, a hater, a misogynist, and line one of those incel idiots. I want to be normal, relatively speaking. How do I rebuild my life at 40?

    PS. I posted this in Relationships section because all I can think about these days is how to develop new relationships with women, other people, friends, society

     

    Thank you as always,
    Felix

    #210605
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Hi Felix,

    I haven’t got any advice as such but I just wanted to say how brave you are starting I’ve and how strong you are. Both of those are admirable qualities.

     

    You are right in that humans shouldn’t be alone and it’ also true it’s hard to make friends. Maybe the fact that your life feel a empty now means actually there is room to out what you want in it. It allows you to re design your life. I can see how much you would like a female life partner or a relationship right now but perhaps focus on the rest of the things you want and the rest will follow.

    The other things to suggest are things like volunteering etc to meet people but I’m guessing you already know all that (and are doing alot yourself). It may feel like right now you have a lot of big problems and it’ difficult to know how to break them down. Perhaps work with them one at a time,  braking them down into smaller chunks so it feels like there is light at the end of the tunnel. Your step dad or friends or a counsellor could help you do this. I know how it feels to feels so so alone so I do understand your pain right now. Hopefully others will be able to offer better insight and comfort than me. Thinking of you.

     

     

    #210607
    limbolady
    Participant

    Hi Felix

    you said ” I used to be superficial, but none of that matters to me anymore. I love this life for what is real, not for what society tells us is important.”

    That’s a major thing to have discovered I guess in time there is every chance you will meet someone who is also not superficial it seems you have a lot of things going for you.. and like nextsteps said you have more space for new experiences and people in your life now.

    Hang in there, people restart their lives at all different ages, 40 is still young in the greater scheme of things

     

    #210617
    Felix
    Participant

    thank you!

    I am trying not to give up. Just hard when you seriously have no one.

    #210631
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Felix:

    Welcome back. I have one suggestion this morning, based on your previous threads and the current one:

    when you do get to know a woman next, at the very beginning, get to know if she indeed “care(s) about status and other superficial things”. Proceed to get to know her further only after you are at peace with this item. See to it that you approve of her values before you proceed.

    anita

    #210643
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Felix,

    Nothing is sexier than a Man with a Mission! I know you live in LA, but when women see you volunteering to help kids or take care of puppies, you will be irresistible! Also join a religious or spiritual organization. They do a lot of things in the community, and you will meet other non-superficial people. You may not go out with them but they will definitely help set you up if they know you’re looking.

    Surely there are other divorced forty year old guys temporarily in debt out there. I don’t know why you think you’re perceived as a misogynist. If you don’t open your mouth and talk that way they don’t know what you’re thinking, after all. And if they expect you to be rich (and thus pay for everything) aren’t they buying into The Patriarchy, what you infer that they hate? I don’t know, as I’ve never been to LA, but it seems you are trapped by your own mental constructs.

    Just remember this Simpson cartoon from when they went to Denmark:

    Hot Danish Guy: In my country I’m a Four.

    Homer Simpson: In my country I’m a Nine.

    You are probably fine!

    Inky

    #210623
    luckyth
    Participant

    thank you!

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    #210783
    Mark
    Participant

    Felix,

    I believe you now have the opportunity to learn about yourself, improve yourself, try new things and have fun.  Focus on that rather than meeting women for dating.

    Workout.  Get back in shape, whether just by walking or go to the gym or whatever.

    Take up a hobby.

    There are Meetup groups, clubs, adult ed classes, church/temple and community activities where you can try new activities and meet people.

    Volunteer.  To get out of yourself, go help another.

    Mark

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