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    Sandy
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    I’ve been with my partner for a few years now but our relationship feels like it’s going nowhere and we do not have the minimal baseline for healthy communication. My partner has a hot temperament and when he gets bothered by something he will turn cold, withdraw and not want to communicate so early on I’ve always felt like I was walking on eggshells because he felt like a time bomb. I always try to encourage him to talk and I ask what upset him, I often find myself apologizing and can’t remember a time when he apologized to me. So essentially he’s a wall I cannot get through to, no matter how calm I am, how much I offer to listen, how available I try to make myself to talking about the problem.
    Going through the silent treatment has broken me down. Each time we are in it, all I feel is anxiety, fear, hopelessness, abandonment. Over time it’s broken down my trust in him and the relationship, it’s damaged my sense of self worth and confidence and it’s made me feel like I don’t have a voice. I’ve forgotten how to express my feelings because he hasn’t allowed me to feel like I have a space to feel whatever set of emotions I’m feeling.

    Regardless of how wrong and damaging the silent treatment is or refusing to sit down and communicate the problems a couple is facing, I cannot help but constantly feel at fault. I feel like all he sees are my reactions to situations but doesn’t see or acknowledge how I got there. That has been a reoccurring struggle for me because  I acknowledge I am sensitive towards certain topics, I acknowledge I might show sensitivity towards other people in his life, yet I cannot help it. Being given the silent treatment while simultaneously watching your partner treat other people with kindness and respect beats you down.

    I find myself going over a series of events multiple times and wanting to speak out and fixating on what to say and what the best ways to say it are instead of just speaking from raw emotion. I continually try to filter and sugar coat what I want to say to the point where I feel defeated and I feel like no matter what I say, how I say it, will never be received in a positive or supportive manner.
    I won’t be able to explain, defend or express my side of things and he will see the worst version or intention in those moments and the less I say, the more resentment accumulates on my end, probably on his too. I do not want to be quiet, I want to have a healthy, balanced conversation, I want to be able to go to my partner and tell him how I’m feeling without feeling anxious about his reaction or the consequences. I’m just stuck, I don’t know how to reclaim my voice here.
    Has anyone been in a similar situation? Your thoughts and advice would be helpful.

    #428296
    Roberta
    Participant

    Dear Sandy

    I am sorry that you find yourself in an unsatisfactory relationship.

    When one feels that they are walking on eggshells, they are almost continually putting their body & mind under stress. So what steps do you take to decompress?

    You have a right to be happy as long as the way that you pursue it does not harm others.

    May be you could ask your partner what brings him joy and happiness? then encourage him in those areas and if possible join him in those pursuits. When we are relaxed & enjoying ourselves, conversations flow more easily ( and companionable silence), that way you can gently build the bridge of communication and eventually be able to approach more sensitive subjects using non violent communication see Marshall Rosenbergs You tube talks.

    A technique that you can use is to sing along with your favourite songs, this way you can give your voice an avenue to express yourself. I like strong females like Sinead O’conor, Patti Smith, Alison Moyett. My favourite  male singer is Leonard Cohen, ( he actually spent some time as a buddhist monk) which one of my partners did not like so I would play it when he was not around.

    I still have Leonard Cohen in my life, but not that partner!

    I am sure others on this site will give you excellent insight to your dilemma

    Kind regards

    Roberta

     

    #428298
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Sandy:

    (I am adding the boldface feature to the quotes): “My partner has a hot temperament and when he gets bothered by something, he will turn cold, withdraw and not want to communicate”-

    – the temperature shifts of anger: from hot to cold, cold as angry as hot. You are Stuck in an extreme weather situation inside your home (assuming you are living with him), metaphorically,  aren’t you?

    “I’ve always felt like I was walking on eggshells because he felt like a time bomb“- Stuck in a war zone.

    I always try to encourage him to talk and I ask what upset him, I often find myself apologizing“- you are trying to defuse the bomb (to bring him to moderate temperatures) by encouraging him to express himself with words, and by apologizing to him.

    “(I) can’t remember a time when he apologized to me“- he doesn’t mind being in the wrong, when he is in the wrong, and he doesn’t have a bomb in front of him to defuse… so no apologizing. Or he’s afraid that if he apologizes, he will lose a sense of power in the relationship.

    “So essentially he’s a wall I cannot get through to, no matter how calm I am, how much I offer to listen, how available I try to make myself to talking about the problem“- an angry wall, an easily angered wall who doesn’t want to talk about his anger. I imagine that in his mind, neither him nor his anger is the problem. In his mind, are you the problem?

    “Going through the silent treatment has broken me down“- his treatment of you = breaking you down, the war metaphor seems fitting.

    “Each time we are in it, all I feel is anxiety, fear, hopelessness, abandonment. Over time it’s broken down my trust in him and the relationship, it’s damaged my sense of self worth and confidence“-  the consequences of war, and of being alone in it, alone against the enemy.

    “And it’s made me feel like I don’t have a voice. I’ve forgotten how to express my feelings because he hasn’t allowed me to feel like I have a space to feel whatever set of emotions I’m feeling”- shoved against an angry wall, you have no space to breathe, to feel anything but that anxiety, fear, hopelessness

    “Regardless of how wrong and damaging the silent treatment is or refusing to sit down and communicate the problems a couple is facing, I cannot help but constantly feel at fault. I feel like all he sees are my reactions to situations but doesn’t see or acknowledge how I got there“-

    – in his mind, you are the one at fault. I imagine that when you express distress and anger at him for being the angry wall that he is, he points to your natural, normal reactions to his actions as proof of your alleged faultiness.

    “That has been a reoccurring struggle for me because  I acknowledge I am sensitive towards certain topics, I acknowledge I might show sensitivity towards other people in his life, yet I cannot help it“- you acknowledge that you are human. You can’t help being human.

    Being given the silent treatment while simultaneously watching your partner treat other people with kindness and respect beats you down“- you didn’t mention it, but I assume still that you are living with him, and the other people are visiting, or you and your partner visit them. You get a Wall, they get a Door…?

    I continually try to filter and sugar coat what I want to say to the point where I feel defeated and I feel like no matter what I say, how I say it, will never be received in a positive or supportive manner…  he will see the worst version or intention“- he sees you as the enemy, the one with bad intentions. No matter how much sugar you mix into your words, he tastes, or claims to taste bitterness…?

    “I do not want to be quiet, I want to have a healthy, balanced conversation, I want to be able to go to my partner and tell him how I’m feeling without feeling anxious about his reaction or the consequences. I’m just stuck, I don’t know how to reclaim my voice here“- start perhaps with substituting the word partner with.. enemy? Because this is war, isn’t it?

    Has anyone been in a similar situation? Your thoughts and advice would be helpful.“-

    – Yes, I grew up (or grew in, more accurately) with a person like your partner.. or enemy, more accurately: my mother. Like you, I was Stuck (with her). She was hot tempered and she gave me the cold, silent treatments. She was a time bomb, and I too felt like I was walking on eggshells, stuck in a war zone. I too tried and failed to defuse the time bomb but she was a wall and none of my efforts got through to her in any way that was positive…

    Except for one effort that did get through to her and positively pleased her: when she hit me and called me names, etc., she said this one time that I remember, she said: the only thing I like about you is that when (I hit you, shame you), you say nothing back, you look down at the floor, quietly. My quiet submission to her aggression pleased her. For a while. Until the next time.

    Like you, I suffered the consequences of a prolonged war (a war in which I was alone facing the enemy): anxiety, fear, hopelessness, abandonmentbroken down.. trustdamaged.. sense of self worth and confidence: broken down,  didn’t grow up or outward, I grew in with a minimal sense of self.

    Like you, I lost my voice, don’t remember ever having a voice. I was angry a lot, inside.. and when she saw my anger, my silent anger in my eyes.. seems like she was bewildered, as in not seeing at all that my anger was a natural reaction to her actions against me. She thought that my anger was proof that I was the faulty girl she thought I was to begin with, and she told me so. I believed her.

    Like in your case, my enemy treated other people/ visitors, with kindness and respect.

    No matter how much I tried to sugar coat my words as I tried to reach her, to reach her with my honesty and in some depth, she cried: BITTER. She repeatedly claimed that there were bad intentions behind my words, (re) actions, etc.

    In the dynamics between my mother and I, her primary motivation was Power Over (me). My primary motivation was Positive, Honest Communication (Love). There was a lack of compatibility there, not wanting the same thing.

    My advice: leave the war zone and attend quality psychotherapy.. and post again, if you would like. It may help to talk further..?

    anita

     

    #428310
    Tee
    Participant

    Dear Sandy,

    I am sorry you are in this situation. Unfortunately, your partner’s behavior is toxic, because he is not willing to talk to you about problems, but shuts you off and gives you the silent treatment. It is also called stone-walling, and it’s one of the so-called 4 horsemen of the apocalypse for relationships, according to psychologist and researcher John Gottman. If there is a lot of stone-walling in the relationship, along with criticism, contempt and defensiveness, the relationship is set to fail.

    You are seeing it very clearly too: “we do not have the minimal baseline for healthy communication.”

    And it seems the reason for that is not you, but him. You are doing your best to try to communicate, but he is refusing. He is punishing you for bringing up certain topics that bother you, and that matter to you. He just doesn’t want to talk about it. And he also blames you for reacting too strongly to the things that bother you (all he sees are my reactions to situations), but never wants to address those things. He doesn’t want to admit there is a problem in the first place, right?

    I cannot help but constantly feel at fault. I feel like all he sees are my reactions to situations but doesn’t see or acknowledge how I got there. That has been a reoccurring struggle for me because I acknowledge I am sensitive towards certain topics, I acknowledge I might show sensitivity towards other people in his life, yet I cannot help it.

    I think your “fault” is in thinking that you are at fault. That if you could only be “softer” and less direct, and sugar-coat it even more, he’ll finally be willing to talk about it. But it has never happened, has it? No matter what you do, there is still a wall that he puts between you and him. And you cannot cross that wall, or circumvent it…

    I acknowledge I am sensitive towards certain topics, I acknowledge I might show sensitivity towards other people in his life, yet I cannot help it.

    I do not want to be quiet, I want to have a healthy, balanced conversation…. I don’t know how to reclaim my voice here.

    I’d like to encourage you to talk about those sensitive topics here, on your thread. He is stonewalling you, but here you will be heard. If you want to talk about the sensitivity or the upset you feel about other people in his life, you are more than welcome to share. Your voice is welcome here.

     

    #428430
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Sandy:

    “Being given the silent treatment… I find myself going over a series of events multiple times and wanting to speak out and fixating on what to say and what the best ways to say it“-

    – it gets very noisy inside you when you get angry silence from the outside.

    I’ve forgotten how to express my feelings because he hasn’t allowed me… I do not want to be quiet, I want to have a healthy, balanced conversation… I’m just stuck“-

    – the loudest part of your internal noise is feeling at fault (“I cannot help but constantly feel at fault”), is it? If so, would you like to elaborate on your history of feeling-at-fault, past and present, give it a voice here, so that it will not be so loud on the inside, so loud that it keeps you stuck?

    anita

     

    #428685
    Shanna
    Participant

    I’m in the same situation. It’s been 15 years. We’re married and have a child with a medical condition/special needs. Four years ago I asked for a divorce, got a lawyer no sorry 2 lawyers, served him with court documents he ignored them. I feel stuck in prison with a very toxic man I need out but can’t seem to find the courage. I’m realizing he’s not changing only getting worse I can’t do anything right. Why does fear control so much?

    what did you decide to do?

    #428734
    Tommy
    Participant

    Why does fear control so much? That is a very interesting question.  It is an emotional reaction to events that surrounds us. Emotions are very difficult to control while one is going thru it.

    For me to get control of my fear, I needed to recognize the conditions for it to happen. Then, have a plan to not feel the fear. Exercising this control will eventually allow me to stop feeling fear. Well, at least not fear when those triggers or conditions appeared.

    I know that I do not have the power to control others nor others reactions. But, have planned what to do in those situations. Sometimes plan to avoid it thru escape or confrontation. It is tough to do. But, if I didn’t change then nothing changes.

    #428738
    anita
    Participant

    * Dear Tommy:

    What a revolutionary idea (for me!): I never thought of controlling one’s fear by (1) Recognizing the conditions that scare me, (2) Planning to not feel the fear before those conditions happen. I never heard or read such an idea and I am going to put it into practice in the next day or so… she how it works. Thank you, Tommy!

    * Dear Shanna: since the original didn’t reply to you, would you to address a question to other members (here or in your own thread, if you choose to start one?)

    anita

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