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  • #63692
    Ani
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    To start with , i joined TB group few days ago but i have read through many of the items that were really motivating which sounds similar to my life , encouraged by these wonderful activities i jumped in! Sorry for any English errors here .

    I am married and its almost nearing two years and To describe about me; I am very bold and approachable type of girl. very social and energetic person to be with,

    The character to be more specific about me is i am very talkative and open. Loves to be in honest friendship and help people to gain their confidence.

    But on the other hand B is very very reserved , calm type. Even a word spoken will be thought for 10 times before speaking.but he is lovable , honest person.trust-able.

    The real problem between us is communication part of it. when it breaks all the other traits come down. We are loving each other and taking utmost care of each other.

    I speak out all my feelings and the exact opposite happens there.he always listen listen listen but not open his mouth

    Its very hard to understand on what his feelings are for me and what he feels about my talk.
    I have explained this many times and he knows what i am expecting [half of them] but immediately says that he is not fit for anything or he shouts that i am always over thinking. we don’t get enough time to be together as we both are working ; We tend to accept each other but not understand well.he is not interested in counselling or reading any couple betterment related books. its only me who have to make the change.?!

    I had to assume things if he is not communicating, at least to understand things i ask probable questions which itself makes him irritating. Either he has to say or i will have to get it. but this always ends in a fight.Life is becoming very miserable because of this.

    Friends,

    I need some some lights to be showed on how to communicate well to understand- as a couple. I cannot say who is wrong here. But to make a good long healthy relationship, i need help from you all to improve our communication.

    #63693
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Ani,

    Well, something special had to be between you for you to get married in the first place! Back then, communication wasn’t a problem. You were in love. You were in tune. Dare I say psychic about each other?

    You are a talker. He is quiet. He is your complement.

    There is nothing “wrong”. Nothing that needs to be “fixed”.

    I would say to totally accept him the way he is.

    Sorry I don’t have a better answer, but this is a core personality trait, the quietness.

    #63747
    Will
    Participant

    It takes two to improve your communication.

    That said, arguing about it is clearly not helping, so it’s important to break that pattern. Next time you feel things are heading towards this same argument, choose his tactic instead. Just say: OK, this is not working. I’m going to quietly consider my next move. If necessary, go for a walk or go clean the kitchen or call someone else to chat to.

    Next time you talk to him about it, try a slightly different tactic. Tell him honestly how you feel, without blaming him. You need to find a solution to this issue together. He may just find it really difficult to speak his mind. He may not think there is a problem at all! There is, but the problem isn’t that he’s not talkative or that you are. The problem is that you feel miserable about it. And there may be all kinds of ways that problem can be resolved.

    Don’t let it drive you crazy. Just calmly try different ways to grow the understanding between you, celebrate little steps you manage to take, and if there’s a setback and things don’t work out: oh well, we’re just trying stuff. Like when you cook without a recipe and it doesn’t turn out so well. No big deal, just try something else next time.

    I hope things can improve between you.

    #63752
    Ani
    Participant

    @inky

    Thank you very much for the suggectionthat you have given, i started accepting the way he is; trying this for the past two months after a quarrel and it seems to work well but compromising a lot from my end:(


    @Will

    Thank you for the suggestion that’s really a good move ! You said how exactly i feel now. i am trying this plan for past two months after a quarrel; i will be keep trying because he is important to me.

    He lacks in confidence and fears at taking the responsibility; fears at taking ownership in what he says/does.
    I need to teach/improve him to be a man-on his own! without affecting his emotions.

    The problem is my voice tone that is actually a bit bold and straight forward ; even if i say some good things during an argument it reverse back to me as a hit because of voice tone:(

    Very pathetic to think how to train myself; please help me with some articles/books/advise

    #64120
    shockwave
    Participant

    Wow, this sounds like me and my boyfriend. I’m naturally quiet and introverted around people that I don’t know but too talkative with my boyfriend. I also ask lots of questions for the sake of conversation because he is much quieter than I am. I’m trying to connect with him but this isn’t the best way obviously. It is really causing a problem for us and I’m in the process of pushing him away because of it. He would rather relax and be quiet. He will engage in conversation to appease me but it’s draining for him because I ask lots of questions. One question leads to another which leads to another. This of course makes him not look forward to talking to me. For some reason I just can’t stop. It wouldn’t be a problem if it were just a short dialog going back and forth for a short while but it’s like I’m trying to unravel his soul or something. It’s like I’m interviewing him. LoL Actually it’s not funny. I’ve been like this in other relationships too so it’s just not him. We don’t argue but he does become cold and irritable. I need help! I love him but I don’t want to drive him away with this behavior.

    #64198
    Will
    Participant

    What does he say about the quarreling? Did he tell you it was your tone of voice that makes him close up and feel defensive? Does he have any ideas about how you two could improve your communication and the quality of your relationship?

    #64199
    Ani
    Participant

    @Will,

    Thanks for replying about my pathetic situation.I am really in need of someone’s help ; He never said anything about my tone of voice, but i realized when asking the same question in soft voice, he replies me but in restricted way like yes/no/one line reason.
    He never tried to change himself;often says that i am always thinking too much; He thinks that if he is silent, problem will get solved; but in each and every quarrel, i mention him that silence will never solve the problem and the grudge carry forward until he accept some solution; he is very very specific in saying even a word; this is making our relationship very very pathetic. I want him to be little expressive[not like me] on what he thinks for me. he hardly speak one paragraph[collectively] in a day.

    I also have seen him his behaviour in the middle of friends/his siblings which is completely different and he is taking humorously.
    But why is it me suffering from this much struggle? I want him to be very clear mind with his love.

    #64203
    Will
    Participant

    Oh, boy.

    I don’t know how much you can do if he is so very unwilling to try to work on your issues. If he doesn’t talk to you at all, how does he expect your relationship to work?

    I do think that choosing not to fight and moderating your tone of voice is wise. But you also have a right to be honest about how you feel. Does he express his love an affection for you (outside of any quarrels)? If not, I’m not sure this can work at all. If so, maybe you can still make it work. Dogs don’t talk much, but still manage to love their humans, and humans love their dogs. (I’m joking.)

    I’m not sure what to suggest other than discussing this with him and trying to find ways for the two of you to connect and understand each other. It sounds like you’re already doing that, though.

    #64209
    Matt
    Participant

    Ani,

    I’m sorry for your relationship troubles, and can understand the difficulty of trying to be intimate with someone that has difficulty opening up, and instead hides. Consider that you come across as very sensitive and strong, a real powerhouse of a woman. And, you’ve mentioned how you have to change him, grow him, and make him different. This is not a good combination, you perhaps crush his tender shoots of self esteem without even trying. A few things came to heart as I read your words.

    It makes sense that you’d want, need, more input from his side. Intimacy requires good communication… there are simply too many choices to make that need honesty from both sides, in order to have enough information to make it a skillful choice. If he is not giving that information easily, then it makes sense that you’d want to try to pull it out of him, prod him until he gives it up. Perhaps you also try to steer him before ever finding out his side, telling him what you want and why, before asking him what he wants. Perhaps even assume what you want “is the correct thing” such as “this is what a relationship is supposed to be”, or “you need to talk to me more”, or “I want rice for dinner because that is the best thing for us, what do you want?”

    While these things come from a loving and somewhat wise place, they also don’t produce the kind of courage you’re looking for in your partner. If he is withholding or hiding his energy with you, but then is bouncy and fun with others, perhaps he’s fearful of expressing himself to you. Consider for a moment, that perhaps your sensitivity and powerful female energy make it a little extra difficult for him to express things to you. If he said “hey, that thing you did really pissed me off”, would your response be kind, open, curious about what sparked his feelings? Or would you engage with fire, telling him how you feel, how he makes you feel, how his anger “doesn’t count” or “doesn’t fit”?

    There are some people that “fill up a room” with their own side of things, wanting to be in control. This is fine, normal and usual, someone has to captain the boat. But its also important to make space for his side to blossom, too. For instance, consider the following:

    “Tonight, I wish to give myself to you in whatever way you’re interested. What would you like to do? Go out? Stay in? Watch a movie? Have sex? My only desire is to be together, wherever you wish that togetherness to take us.”

    This is keeping your hand on the wheel, keeping your natural role as captain, but allows his side to direct what comes next. After all, more than any movie or dinner or lovemaking, you’re trying to aim at him, right? Instead of “hey, eat this, its good for you”, just bring him to the buffet and hold his hand in yours. More than any specific food (or date night) its the hand holding that is good for you both.

    That being said, its also important that you choose sometimes, too. But it could really help him if you were to hold his hand and say something to the effect of “of all the paths that rest before us, my desire is you. Where do you wish us to go?” Then, be curious, open to what he is thinking. Like a cheerleader, rooting on his explorer side. “You want me to lick your ears, OK, let’s do it!” or “You want to watch a low budget sci fi movie, OK, let’s do it!” or “Oh, you want to XYZ and ABC? OK, let’s do it!”

    Even if you’re not that interested in the movie or ear licking or XYZ, so what? You’re exploring him, the experience, and him in the experience, so there’s plenty fun to be had even if the movie is dull, or the taste of his ears isn’t particularly alluring.

    Finally, its good to keep that hand on the wheel, maintain the control of the intimacy and see it moving where you want it to go. Just keep in mind that good intimacy is more about inviting the other person to join us somewhere special, rather than telling them what to do or how they should be. His desires need to know its safe to come and play, and if you’ve been sensitive and fiery in the past, it may take some time for that feeling of safety to grow for him. Be steadfast. 🙂

    Namaste, sister, may your moments grow ever more satisfying.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #64221
    Ani
    Participant

    Many Thanks Matt. That’s really a heart-full message which has shown light in the darkness of my life; i will carry it as my guidance and practice those good words said above; What you said has triggered the spark on where i might have been wrong these many days, definitely this will help me to move forward smoothly with my love. I will surely post my status on this topic again after some months on how TB helped me in having good life.Thank you my lovely Brother!! God bless you…

    #346870
    Dr.natasha
    Participant

    Ani…myself dream natasha..i am facing the exact problem u have mentioned.each and every word….as u facing in person….u could understand my pain better…..ppl giving…advice….is simple..but dealing in reality is very hard…plz reply

    #352154
    Prachi
    Participant

    Hii Ani and Natasha,

    I am also sailing in the same boat like u both.

    I am married since 5yrs and m working hard to work on communication issue btwn me n  my husband since we got engaged.

    I am facing exactly same issues what ani had explained 6yrs back.. I am tired of putting all efforts but he is not changing a bit..I love him a lot…but sometimes I feel I made a wrong decision.

    He never expresses him self.. i am not expecting him to say I love u everyday.. but we r in mid 30’s.. we expect our partner to b little expressive..romantic.. no pda is expected but he could plan some surprise on anniversaries or birthdays… its always me doing everything.. 🙁

    He says he thinks that i am unpredictable.. i get angry easily.. but that’s not the truth.. I am like an open book.. I clearly says what i want what i need..how i feel..i share each n every thing with him.. but he is very secretive… even after asking for 100 times he dsnot share anything.. many time i hv seen that he wanted to say but he avoids spking out..when asked he says…nothing..!!

    It is just not me who is facing this issue.. his own family also saying same things..he is like that since his childhood.. but I can’t talk to walls for my rest of the life.. we had many friendly discussion on this..to improve our communication but nothing fryitful coming out.. either we end up fighting..or some he promises to talk and share things freely henceforth… but he nvr keep it…

    I am seriously tired of it… pls help..!!

    Ani..how is ur life going on?? Any improvement??

    Regards,

    Prachi

    #373446
    Dubey
    Participant

    Hello Prachi, Ani and Natasha

    I came on this page after searching ” How to deal with over talkative wife” and it seems that I am the type of person or husband whom you are all discussing and blaming. After reading your thoughts its seems that I am the problem so assuming me as a problem itself I will try to express the felling and thought process of silent and boring type of husbands.

    Ani , you have mentioned that your husband is talkative with his friends and he is humorous while talking then you have to understand that there is clear intelligence gap between you and your husband and you have to accept that he is more intelligent and than you. Please don’t judge peoples intelligence from their earnings. Most often intelligent people are silent, secretive and humorous while taking. They are easily distracted by nonsense discussion or talks, and are confused most of the times that what to talk or speak. The talk, which requires mental stimulation or deep thought process suits them or infact they like it. They enjoy discussing deep things or any new theory or any kind of thing which require mental stimulation. They will be in their own thought process most of the time and it requires a lot of energy which they don’t want to use on useless talks. As an example I don’t like to bargain or ask again for price if the matter is of few hundred rupees or if shopkeeper is quoting only 1% higher rate or if the seller is quite poor economically whereas my wife will haggle for even two rupees, will discuss useless things with shopkeeper, will talk a lot before purchasing and after purchasing she will discuss about the product several times. I think that discussing, debating for just few rupees is quite a waste of time and speaking itself drains a lot of energy. I devote more time thinking about the quality of product, price quoted, products market value, shopkeepers margin, shopkeeper behavior, analyzing his body language, his intentions and this make me better in judging other people thought process and intentions. Needless to say that my wife always get irritated from me and my behavior. She thinks that I am weird and stupid. I think a lot before uttering a single word, I try to choose my words carefully, will always try to speak words or sentences  that would put a impact on situation. I hate listening stupid discussion and bombardment of word or sentences which offer no conclusion. For example people will always discuss problems, weather be it someone’s financial or health problems but will not discuss about the solutions and reasons behind the problems and will speak nonsensible for hours where as I hate discussing those things and will only speak when there is a need or if I can be of some help. With this behavior of mine people assume that i am weird or ghamandi. Lot of people had branded me as Ghamandi whereas I think I am the most down to earth person among them. I don’t care about clothes or a person status while interacting them, will never judge people but I hate hypocrites and sweet takers as i know their intentions.

    You will not believe that I don’t like to talk or discuss even after having lot of booze instead i love to think a lot after drinking, it helps me connecting with myself. My friends say that i am sadistic  and wife says that i am Aghori as how can a person don’t speak even after drinking. I don’t like to enjoy loud parties.

    I was initially thinking to write some solution here for the problem but i will write only if someone will reply here to my thread otherwise why to waste time. I love my own loneliness.

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