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  • #448245
    Laven
    Participant

    During 10th grade, things and life continued to be difficult to manage and cope with..so during one school day after dismissal..I didn’t go home. I needed some time to myself, so I stayed out all night riding public transportation and roaming the streets. I even tried to find my way back to the house in which my brothers and mother last resided…but I’m directionally challenged. I tried to find home, but I’m always lost.

    I decided to return around 1am…and foster mom didn’t say anything.. except to tell me to go to bed and that I was on punishment. It was the day before Thanksgiving..so the next day I was forced to attend her family’s Thanksgiving event.

    Word had spread.

    Everyone there either stared at me, a few didn’t ask questions, they bombarded me with accusations of being out with boys, even though I told them I was alone, I wasn’t believed. My foster mom and her family forced me to get a doctor’s appointment to check for pregnancy, and sexually transmitted diseases and infections. I felt humiliated and embarrassed. No one even asked me why I disappeared.. no one ever inquires about me, they just assume and remain silent around me, unless it’s to ask questions or give orders pertaining to their mother.

    11th grade I needed to get away again, so I faked illness so that I could be admitted into a psychiatric facility. Learnt behavior and coping mechanisms from childhood made me resort and respond in that manner. I stayed there 2 weeks, in which I was became very ill from contracting strep throat

    difficult and challenging. I resorted to skipping class again ..

    Foster mom’s estranged ex husband of many years had passed and left her his car..that remained parked outside her house. I would enter the car and duck down and sit ..return home at regular dismissal time.

    Foster mom and program got very angry and punished me when they found out.

    At age 18 the foster program refused to accept that I wasn’t college material, capable, nor was interested and threatened me with removal from the program and foster moms residence if I didn’t attend and comply.

    I didn’t.. and got kicked out of the program, but foster mom decided to keep me because she pitied me, and also didn’t want to resume living alone or with any of her children. She knew they wouldn’t allow her to remain by herself as she was older now.

    At age 23 I received my diploma in the mail. I never earned it, and by then the school pitied me and let me have it .

    At 22 foster mom income had significantly dwindled due to my dismissal from the program, and she having to stop her in-house beautician business…as it had taken a toll on her…

    Sooooo ..

    She decided to remain fostering….

    and took in another foster child ….

    Tbc

    Thank you

    #448247
    anita
    Participant

    “I’m directionally challenged. I tried to find home, but I’m always lost.”- it’s as if I wrote this myself. We have so much in common.

    I will write more tomorrow.

    Anita

    #448301
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Laven:

    The foster system failed you and so did the schools you attended.. and your foster mom and.. so many others 😢

    The term ACE (Adverse Childhood Experience) refers to a potentially traumatic event that occurs during childhood (ages 0–17). An experience that can have lasting effects on a person’s physical, emotional, and relational health well into adulthood.

    Common types of ACEs include: Abuse (Physical, emotional, or sexual), Neglect (Emotional or physical), Parental separation or divorce, Substance abuse in the home, Mental illness in a caregiver, Domestic violence, and Incarceration of a household member.

    These experiences can disrupt a child’s sense of safety, stability, and bonding, and are linked to long-term health outcomes like depression, anxiety, chronic illness, and relational difficulties.

    In my case I experienced all of the above types of ACEs, at one point or another, except for Substance abuse in the home and Incarceration of a household member.

    Clearly, Laven, you suffered from multiple ACEs as well.

    If magic was real, I would go back in time and rescue little girl Laven and take her to a place where she’d be loved and cared for- every day, consistently. I would do that for every abused, unfortunate child.

    🤍 Anita

    #448468
    Thomas168
    Participant

    I understand that 10th grade and 11th grade was a bad time for you. But, I have to ask if you understood the consequences of your actions? Staying out all night. Coming home at 1 in the morning. How would you feel if one of your children did that? Yes, you had your reasons but no one else knows that. Not being able to talk to someone to help you?

    I do not want to blame you for your actions. But, you have to take some responsibilities for your actions. Skipping school. Why? What made it so terrible that it was better to miss school than to be in school? Did you have bullies?

    Sounded like you had a foster mom who loved you even with all the things you did that probably hurt her. Yeah, I don’t know you or your life. But, It does not sound like you take any responsibility for your life and actions. How can life get better if you don’t change your life for the better??

    Sorry if I sound mean. That is not my intent. I have been the kid who skipped school for months. And the kid who took drugs. And the kid who stole. And I was punished for it. I knew it was time to change or things would just get worse. So, I changed me.

    #448488
    anita
    Participant

    Hi again, Laven:

    I just want to say: I see you. The severe neglect and abuse you endured growing up were not your fault. You didn’t deserve to be abandoned, judged, or silenced — not then, and not now. Your responses were survival. I stand with you in compassion.

    With care, Anita

    #448489
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Thomas

    You might want to read some of Laven’s other threads before giving your input. She has been through a lot. Honestly, the most trauma I’ve ever heard someone go through. It is a miracle that she is still here with us and a testament to her resilience.

    I’m glad that you managed to figure things out and turn your life around and I appreciate your desire to share that experience with others. Perhaps you might like to create a thread of your own and talk about what you’ve learned from your own experiences? ❤️

    #448500
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Hello Ms. Alessa,

    I did not blame her for her actions but asked why? I do not know her. But, … How would you feel if your child did not come home after school? Stayed out until one in the morning? Then she is surprised about how others in her family reacted? Her punishment was to spend Thanksgiving with her family? What was her motivation for doing so? She never explains. Just sounds to me that she was looking for attention. She got it. But didn’t like it? What was she expecting? Do we just listen to her side of the story? Or do we think about those around her and the way they reacted to her? Were they being reasonable? Did they physically punish and beat her? When she aged out of foster care, did her foster parents throw her out because there was no more money?

    On a separate note: (not Laven)
    When bad people tell others of their lives, most of them do make it sound like it was other’s fault for their lives. That whatever they did, it was justified. Then they do not choose to do better but go deeper into their despair. The narrative continues. I personally know that nothing will ever change for the better unless one chooses to make better choices. To take responsibility for their choices and actions.

    I guess people come here to tell their stories and get sympathy and comfort. Not to hear advice to change their lives for the better? That was a question not a statement. You sound like a caring person. But are you an enabler?

    #448502
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Compassion for another person is a wonderful thing. But, it needs to be paired up with wisdom. It is obvious that most of the people here who answer are very compassionate people. Lots of sympathy and empathy. This is not to say that the person writing for help is wrong. This is not to say pull yourself up. This is not to assign blame. But, I ask what do you want from this post you made? One post of something bad in your life. Then another and then another and then another. What is it that you wish to get from them? If one dwells upon the bad things then life is nothing but suffering. There will be nothing but suffering. But, if one stops dwelling upon the second arrow then life can improve.

    Alessa, sorry. Do not mean to call you an enabler. Wrong of me. I do not know you.

    #448504
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Thomas

    You still haven’t read her story yet fully have you? I suggested it for a very important reason.

    Yes, her foster family beat her. She was also raped going to and leaving school. No wonder she skipped school and didn’t want to go home.

    When std tests are forced upon a minor, that is sexual assault in my book. For a woman, that involves inserting a swab and even involve a physical examination. These are delicate and sensitive procedures at the best of times. Now imagine it being forced on you. It would be particularly traumatising after what Laven has been through.

    She was a child. Children make mistakes, it is natural. Especially ones who have been through huge amounts of trauma. It is okay to make mistakes.

    It might seem like complaining to you. But this might be the first time Laven has told her story from start to finish. For people who have been through severe trauma, connecting with the memories deeply can stop them from reoccurring compulsively. Repetition comes from avoidance of the painful memories.

    I understand your desire to give helpful advice, but sometimes context is very important. This is only one page of her story. She wasn’t a delinquent child. She was just a scared, traumatised and lonely one.

    #448517
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Thomas:

    You asked Laven: “Skipping school. Why? What made it so terrible that it was better to miss school than to be in school? Did you have bullies?”-

    Laven answered this question on April 29, 2025: “When I entered school, at 5… soon after I was molested inside the bathroom adjoining the classroom by a staff teacher’s assistant — an older man who seemed like the sweet, lovable grandfather type. Soon after that, at 5, I started skipping school.”

    You asked: “Not being able to talk to someone to help you?”-

    Laven (April 29, 2025): “My mom was dealing with mental health issues such as schizophrenia and raising three kids without support. She was unemployed, had to mind us, in and out sometimes of psychiatric care facilities — and also both brothers due to mental health issues and defiant behaviors.”

    You wrote: “Sounded like you had a foster mom who loved you even with all the things you did that probably hurt her.”-

    Laven (July 10, 2025): “When I first came to my current foster placement, my foster mom was in her 60s… Within the first year of me being here, I was abused often by her grandson. He would beat me with a belt, say terrible things to me, force me to do things I didn’t want to do… It’s her natural behavior to be argumentative, combative, and blame me for everything.”

    Laven (June 26, 2025): “Throughout the rest of my schooling and teen years, life was very overwhelming for me. I couldn’t cope nor function. Foster mom was still verbally abusive and put me down a lot. Her family was as well.”

    You asked: “What do you want from this post you made? One post of something bad in your life. Then another and then another and then another. What is it that you wish to get from them?”-

    Laven (May 18, 2024): “A lot of times I feel guilty for my feelings towards everything and also sharing. I feel like everything is always my fault and that I deserve everything. I feel embarrassed and humiliated for my feelings… and also my life experiences. I also feel like a bad person and feel like I shouldn’t feel the way that I do… I’ve been minimized my whole life and I’ve learned very early in childhood that I shouldn’t prioritize myself, that everyone else comes first, and that my self, thoughts, feelings, problems, etc.… I’m not important, neither are the things I go through.”

    I think, Thomas, that what Laven wants — and deserves — is validation. She needs to be told the truth: That the misfortunes and abuses she suffered at five, six, and beyond were not her fault. That she is not a bad person for having endured a painful life. That her feelings are valid. That she is important. That it’s okay to prioritize herself. That it’s okay for her to come first — for a change.

    You wrote: “If one dwells upon the bad things then life is nothing but suffering. There will be nothing but suffering. But, if one stops dwelling upon the second arrow then life can improve.”-

    I too used to dwell on the bad things, Thomas — because I lacked validation. Although I told and retold the painful experiences that happened to me, I didn’t fully believe they were real. The minimizing, invalidating, emotionally reversing voices of my mother kept playing in my mind, guilt-tripping and shaming me. I told and retold my stories in a desperate effort to rid myself of the false shame and guilt planted in early years.

    This doesn’t mean that a victimized child never harms others. Too often, a true victim becomes someone who victimizes others. But healing is about rescuing the child within from all those false accusations — from the untrue shaming and guilt — and reclaiming that early-life innocence.

    Anita

    #448529
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Sorry, I have not read her complete story. It appears I have made a mistake being here. Can’t jump in the middle and know everything. Well, what is the answer to help her? Just listen to her go over and over her story? Show compassion? Never understood therapy. 1talk about problems and trauma. Cover it and go up and down everything. When does the healing begin? Yeah, this is beyond me.

    #448531
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Thomas

    It is okay, mistakes happen. You didn’t know what she had been through. Please don’t worry! I think you’ve done a great job talking to other people. Your voice is very much welcome and appreciated here. ❤️

    #448534
    anita
    Participant

    Good to read back from you, Thomas.

    “Well, what is the answer to help her? Just listen to her go over and over her story? Show compassion?”- yes. Then maybe, just maybe, she’ll be open for more. If and when she trusts another person with her story.

    Anita

    #448589
    tinybuddha
    Keymaster

    Hi everyone,

    I wanted to pop into this thread to share a thought that I hope will be helpful. But first, thank you to everyone who shares their stories here and to those who offer advice and support. I’m endlessly inspired by your bravery and kindness!

    Now my gentle reminder: Whenever possible, it’s a good idea to read someone’s story in full before responding, especially when they’re sharing about deeply personal or traumatic experiences.

    This makes it easier to lead with empathy and validation, and that helps keep this space safe for everyone. Advice, questions, and different perspectives can be valuable, but they land best when someone first feels heard and understood.

    Perhaps this is an unnecessary reminder given the final comments in this thread. I just wanted to reiterate what others have shared because it’s wise advice, and I believe it will help keep the engagements here gentle and supportive.

    Thank you again to everyone who responds with such care and compassion. It makes a big difference, and we all appreciate you!

    Lori

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