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    Danny
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    Hi all,

    I usually take a sabbatical from here and journal and ponder on my values and ethics.

    One of the things I have been pondering is….

     

    What is a mistake? What constitutes a mistake?

    I make poor choices regularly regarding my alcohol intake. I beat myself up when I make this “mistake” although I’m told not to. If I try to abstain from alcohol, yet fail to do so, is that a mistake or a choice? Should I beat myself up?

    #428751
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Danny:

    If I try to abstain from alcohol, yet fail to do so, is that a mistake or a choice?“- my answer: depends if you feel anxious/ distressed or calm at the moment you consider drinking (and being aware that you decided earlier not to drink). If you feel calm, it’s a choice; if you feel anxious, it’s an impulse, an act of desperate need to be calm.

    In Law, impulsive illegal acts done when anxious/ distressed are considered choices and therefore punishable by law, but less punishable than illegal acts done when calm.

    Should I beat myself up?“- beating oneself up makes one more anxious/ distressed, and therefore more likely to act out of impulse, and go back on choices made when calm. So.. no.

    anita

    #428752
    anita
    Participant

    Edit:  my answer: depends if you feel anxious/ distressed or calm at the moment you consider drinking followed by drinking (and being aware that you decided earlier not to drink). If you feel calm, it’s a choice; if you feel anxious, it’s an impulse, an act of desperate need to be calm.

     

    #428760
    Tommy
    Participant

    As an adult, you should know right from wrong? To make a determination not to drink alcohol is usually considered a wise choice for many reasons (none of which you mentioned but you know why). Then later on, change one’s mind and start drinking alcohol. An error? A mistake? Yes, it was a mistake. It was a poor choice.

    Do you beat yourself up about it? That depends upon the consequences of the bad choice. Drive drunk? Get into a fight? Forgot someone or something that needed to be done? Wasn’t where you were suppose to be? Addiction? Asking yourself what constitutes a mistake is just looking for excuses for your actions.

    It seems it is time for one to be responsible for one’s actions. Not to look for excuses. Not to look to blame others. Your choices now will build the foundation of your future. Wish you well.

    #428776
    Roberta
    Participant

    Dear Danny

    Why do you wish not to drink – once you have a clear understanding of the why then it is easier to abstain.

    You could write down why you chose to drink ie a friends birthday party and what & how much you drank and any negative outcome like argument with girlfriend, bad hangover or failed to go to work the next day.

    You may start to see patterns forming. If you go out for a couple of beers and are home in bed by 11 and function well the next day  and you are doing this 4 or 5 times a week you may choose to limit it to once a week or a month for health & financial reasons.

    You may notice that when keeping company with certain friends you drink more. You could choose to still see these friends but change what you do ie instead of going to a bar for the whole evening, go bowling instead. You could also drink shandies instead of straight beer or larger.

    Some may say that it is your ego that leads you astray & it is your ego that mentally beats you up after you have been drinking & regret it.

    #428798
    Danny
    Participant

    Thank you all for your input. It’s helpful to hear other people’s opinions and views.

    The reason I wish to abstain or certainly reduce my alcohol intake is due to the fact I feel I could ( should) be doing more with my time.

    I can often be lethargic the day after a few beers which can lead me to abandoning my positive habits in the days after, due to the lack of energy.

    I’ve always been extremely hard and critical of myself. I’ve been trying to cut myself some slack when mistakes are mad, yet I’m not sure if drinking is a mistake, or is it more a choice. If it is a choice, and not a mistake, do I need to be hard on myself?

    Hopefully that’s coherent enough for people to understand. I look forward to your views.

     

    1. Enjoy your day!
    #428802
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Danny:

    I could (should) be doing more with my time. I can often be lethargic the day after a few beers… I’ve always been extremely hard and critical of myself“- how does being extremely hard and critical of yourself affect your use of your time: does it make you energetic or lethargic, motivated or depressed, productive or wasteful of your time and resources?

    I’m not sure if drinking is a mistake, or is it more a choice. If it is a choice, and not a mistake, do I need to be hard on myself?“- some people consider drinking any amount of alcohol at any time to be a mistake; others consider drinking in moderation not a mistake, but a positive thing; almost everyone (while sober) considers drinking and driving a mistake.

    Here is a question for you: can you make a choice to learn from your experience, improve your functionality and productivity, and at the same time, not be hard on yourself?

    anita

    #428849
    Danny
    Participant

    [quote quote=428802]Dear Danny: “I could (should) be doing more with my time. I can often be lethargic the day after a few beers… I’ve always been extremely hard and critical of myself“- how does being extremely hard and critical of yourself affect your use of your time: does it make you energetic or lethargic, motivated or depressed, productive or wasteful of your time and resources? “I’m not sure if drinking is a mistake, or is it more a choice. If it is a choice, and not a mistake, do I need to be hard on myself?“- some people consider drinking any amount of alcohol at any time to be a mistake; others consider drinking in moderation not a mistake, but a positive thing; almost everyone (while sober) considers drinking and driving a mistake. Here is a question for you: can you make a choice to learn from your experience, improve your functionality and productivity, and at the same time, not be hard on yourself? anita[/quote]

     

    Thank you for your input Anita. You provide me with a great question to ponder.

    #428944
    Tommy
    Participant

    What drives you to drink? Is it hunger as it is for the one who is on a diet? Is there a hunger for the alcohol? There are rules against drinking alcohol. Do you break those rules? If not then it is a choice you made. You are responsible for your choices. If you break the rules then it is a mistake. Is it a mistake like breaking rules against bank robbery? Obviously not completely. But, it sits in the realm of those mistakes. Drunk driving, fighting, not being where you are suppose to be (work), etc. Do you need to be hard on yourself if drinking is considered a choice? It was your choice. But, as I said before, your choices now are the foundation of your future.

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