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  • #160600
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita (and the Tiny Buddha community),

     

    It has been a long time since I have posted, and I think about all of the previous posts and wisdom I attained everyday.  I have come a long way – and it is almost wedding time.  Needless to say I have survived my mom’s terrible behavior.  I don’t want to get into to much about her or how I have dealt with her, and going no contact is not an option.

    More importantly, although I have come a long way – I do know that by being raised by a narcisstic, negative, and unreasonable person like my mother (if you recall from previous posts) it has had a long deep lasting effect on my sister and I.  As I mentioned before my mom was “never this bad” as she has been over the last year after all the wedding planning happened, and she has truly unraveled into a negative monster.

    The more she has unraveled, the more I see how much this has affected my view of the world.  There are some days where I have an “aha” moment and say – wow okay that’s why I always felt disappointed with friends in high school, or wait that’s why I always perceived it to be my fault – because I am hard wired to think of the bad, to blame myself, and to take things as a personal attack.  However, there are of course still so many times where, because I am wired for negativity, my first thought leads to something quite depressing and devastating, like for example a friend being flakey leads to anxiety and internal negativity all day (although I may be involved in many enjoyable plans at the same time).  I guess what I am trying to say is that, with the help of reading, talking, and even therapy I have come so far – but where is the next step? To truly say – NO thoughts you are wrong – it REALLY isn’t that BAD, and you don’t have to catastrophize everything MIND.

    Here is a silly example, my mom is throwing me a bridal shower this weekend (i found out about it although it was supposed to be a surprise).  I am still excited about it.  The few comments she made over the last week are in regards to my friends being flakey, or “oh i was really expecting so and so to come, you’ve been such a good friend to her – i thought she would be there for you.” and as level headed i am in comparison to her, it still does affect me – and of course my mind does go there and wonder – wait is this person a crappy friend? But then I shake myself and say NO don’t listen to your mom, she just spews negativity, one day about this one day about that without rhyme or reason.

     

    now you may say – so don’t talk to your mom.  well the thing is lets put my mom on mars.  i still have me. and because i have a propensity to think and feel this way myself – the problem still remains…

    It’s all very exhausting

    #160644
    PearceHawk
    Participant

    Cali Chica,

    I’m a Cali-man born and raised so it’s good to see a fellow Cali here. I wish the circumstances were better. Last but not least I’m excited for you and the wedding! Watch out for that requisite cake in the face attack. I say, strike first 🙂

    As you know there are many reasons for what you describe as your mother’s terrible behavior. To excuse it is rather dismissive as the variables are great, the propensity for an unwanted interruptions do exist,  such as a chemical imbalance, personality disorder (schizophrenia), her life growing up, etc. Who knows. Not to be trivialized is your having to endure it for so many years and finding coping mechanisms that give you strength. Your mom is in a very dark and unhappy place and it seems that she has been for some time. One thing I am not an advocate of is not talking to her. While this may be difficult, talking to her in such a way that shows her she has a safe place to go just might allow her to open up however slight that will give you better insight as to why she is that way and how to handle future episodes. You said, “The more she has unraveled, the more I see how much this has affected my view of the world.” and “my mom was never this bad as she has been over the last year after all the wedding planning happened, and she has truly unraveled into a negative monster.” Although people with this problem can, and often times do affect one’s world view, keep in mind, as hard as it can be, that the way they express themselves in a negative fashion is really a reflection on how they feel inside, as cliche’ as that may seem. As you say that she has “unraveled into a negative monster” this is just one of many expressions of a serious psychiatric disorder which again has nothing to do with you. I had a family member once who has since passed away who was such an evil person that he was diagnosed as having a a sociopath component in his personality. In the early stages of this I dealt with it in such a way that during episodes of his behavior beginning to present themselves I just walked away. I went for a hike or bike riding. When it escalated to potentially violent tendencies I was forced to use what I was taught (Aikido) and had the police arrest him. These people become a different animal, they no longer are family, only by biological affiliation. True it is a disease and should be treated as such, but when violence becomes predictive and even executed strong measures need to prevail in the name of being safe. I am not saying your mom has this potential, but with her mental status escalating at unpredictable moments and not getting the treatment she deserves, it is paramount to be aware of subtle changes of behavior evolving in such a way that protects you and your loved ones.

    Yes these people can be very exhausting and trying at times. Your very special moment is coming, a beautiful wedding. For some reason these types of events triggers behaviors that are just not good. I am not trying to inculcate paranoia in you as you make your plans. Just know that these things can and do happen. Have a back up plan, people who can intervene in such a way that it is not disruptive. It is sad, unfortunate that it comes to this, but taking safe measures in times like this can lessen a potentially bad situation.

    Enjoy a wonderful wedding!

    Pearce

    #160700
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Cali Chica,

    I know it is hard, but try to turn the anger into sympathy and empathy for her instead. This is most likely an unresolved learned behavior that she learned how to relate from her parents, and her parents learned it from their parents and so on. It’s a vicious cycle, and without quality Psychotherapy, it will continue to go on, it’s called “passive aggressive behavior”. These people do not mean to be hurtful, but they do make cutting remarks, not even knowing they are doing this.

    For example, once, I put some weight on. I was single, and was on a shopping trip buying some clothes for a date. My 1/2 sister, said “don’t worry, lots of men, like plump women”. Before, I graduated college, she had aa Masters and A law degree. I had a High school degree getting ready to fill out applications for college. We used to watch jeapordy on TV, I got an answer right, that she did not, and the three contestants did not. She said “you are pretty intelligent for someone with a small education level”. Ouch! But instead of reacting and showing her she hurt my feelings, I felt sorry for her instead.

    She also used her “passive aggressive” behavior other ways, such as “I’m not mad!” when she was. Acting sullen, giving the silent treatment, or if I did react to something upsetting she said she would say “why are you getting so upset” or “calm down” or “you are too sensitive” “emotional” “dramatic” etc. These are all signs of passive aggressive behavior, and it is a sign of a very insecure and fearful person on the inside who uses controlling, manipulating tactics in the form of cutting, underhanding remarks, to make themselves feel better, but not necessarily to hurt the other person because it is a deeply ingrained learned behavior. Another tactic, she would use is “Eliana, can you help me carry some dishes from the basement upstairs”. I would say “sure, I’m on the phone, I will help you as soon as I am done” well..that wasn’t good enough, she wanted it done her way and *now*, so her response was “fine, I will do it myself, after everything I have done for you, I will just break my bad back carrying these dishes all by myself” so, of course, I was “made to feel guilty” and got off the phone to help her. Hoewever, I soon tired of this and stopped reacting, and when she used this “help me now, feel sorry for me” I would say, I will help you when I am off the phone. I stopped reacting to her, felt sorry for her, empathized and no longer allowed it to affect me. Anyway, I hope this helps a bit. Keep us posted and congratulations on the upcoming wedding.

    #160704
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Thank you for the above responses, I truly appreciate them.

    I was wondering your input @anita.

    I have made major progress with the above, and allowing myself to not take everything she takes to heart so to speak.  My major struggle is that now I MYSELF, can be quite negative.  It’s like if 40 people come to your event, you fixate on the one that flaked.  If your most valuable friend throws you a great party, you focus on the 3 flakey friends who decided not to show  And so on – I guess the theme is simply focusing outward not inward, focusing on the less important thiings and people instead of the most valuable.  having a great abundant life, but being unable to find true happiness as the mind wanders to what is “not there”

    #160706
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    Welcome back!

    Your description of your mother on this thread (congruent with the account of her behaviors in previous threads) is of “a narcissistic, negative, and unreasonable person… a negative monster”

    You wrote: “going no contact is not an option” and “lets put my mom on mars.  i still have me. and because i have a propensity to think and feel this way myself – the problem still remains…It’s all very exhausting”-

    My input today: ending contact with her would not have been the complete solution, only the beginning. But it is not an option for you, so you believe. I will respect that.

    And so, “the problem still remains”- on the outside, in the form of a negative monster and in the inside, the poison of that monster being in there already. What to do (I ask myself)? What would I do if I was in your place, with no option of ending contact with her?

    This is what I will not try to do because these are impossible to accomplish: to feel nothing, hear nothing and see nothing when in her presence. I will also not try to make believe reality is any different than it is because I believe mental health is dependent on our core beliefs being congruent with reality.

    I would say: stick to reality, do feel, do hear, and do see what-is real.  Keep your brain congruent with reality. When you have a negative thought, evaluate it: is it true to reality or not, accurate or not? Does the content of the thought needs to be evaluated, researched (getting further information)? Rewire your brain this way not toward positivity necessarily, but toward reality.

    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) has excellent exercises in this regard. Keep it real, Cali Chica, and make your life better.

    * If the monster will hurt your future children in any way, please re-evaluate the option of no contact with her, at least, no contact between her and your children as their brains will be wiring very quickly… you don’t want them troubled and exhausted.

    anita

     

     

     

    #160708
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * I posted the above before reading your most recent post, Cali Chica. If you are still online, so am I, we can write back and forth for a little while, if you’d like.

    anita

    #160714
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    @anita

    Thank you for your response as always.  And pardon me, since the wedding is only 4 weeks away It is hard for me at times to see the “big life” picture as I am so in this right now, and especially with the Indian background there are many family related events every weekend.

     

    I like what you said about not trying to wire for positivity itself, but more for reality. I will say that I have been better about stopping and saying: “is this thought true, is this real life or just my perception.” or – “is this self perceived negativity.”

    However, you made me realize that I struggle with what is reality? for example, if this same thing happened to someone else they probably wouldn’t sweat it. or say they had 14 best friends show up for them, they wouldn’t ruminate about the 1 or 2 flakey friends.  so in that  I am not saying I WANT to be them – but is it just because their perspective is different, so THEREFORE, their REALITY is different.

     

    I guess what I struggle with is I know you create your OWN reality, but how can I assure myself that say – things are fine, that my brain reverting back to having a problem, is NOT in fact congruent with the reality.

    #160720
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    You wrote: “I know you create your OWN reality”- not true: reality is what it is. Either we perceive it accurately or we perceive it inaccurately. Or we are confused and don’t have a solid perception. Regardless of our perception, reality is one. For example, if a friend of yours is flakey, she is flakey whether you perceive her as such, or not. (And, just as a broken clock is correct twice every 24-hours, so is your mother: a particular friend may be, in reality, flakey).

    More about reality: in my first post to you here I mentioned “the poison of that monster being in there already”-  the poison I was referring to  is the voice of your mother being reactivated in your brain.

    The reason why there are women who would not ruminate about the flakey friends is because they have a different voice reactivated in their brains.

    You are not responsible for who your mother is and for her voice being reactivated in your brain. Her voice, her values, her reasoning/lack of, her likes, her dislikes, all these are recorded in that brain of yours in many thousands of neuropathways formed during those Formative Years.

    anita

     

    #160724
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    The reason why there are women who would not ruminate about the flakey friends is because they have a different voice reactivated in their brains.

    So my focus now will be to start having a different voice in my brain, it will take effort and time, because as you said the formative years were influenced so heavily by this.

    what are some tips you recommend for allowing myself to have less of this voice being reactivated in my brain. ? I always like your approach. I understand what you mean about reality – so I see it is not about reality itself, but the voice in my brain that brings me to negative, and rumination

    i have started reading “Buddha’s Brain” which focuses a lot on this re-wiring.  I will also be starting CBT.

    #160728
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    A person cannot eliminate that voice- the neuropathways were already formed, the voice is already there as it has been for such a long time. But there is hope: to add a voice, to make the new voice stronger, so that over time, you hear the new voice over the old voice, until the old voice is no longer a problem.

    To develop and strengthen the new voice, it will continue to “take effort and time’, just like you wrote. And this is key; as the child that you were, the internalization of your mother’s voice was automatic and required no effort on your part. As an adult, with that voice ongoing, there is no way to develop a new voice without much ongoing effort, persistence and lots of patience.

    Post again, anytime, Cali Chica. I hope the pre-wedding events are pleasant for you, as well as the wedding. Most important, I wish you a healthy, loving marriage.

    anita

    #161000
    Mark
    Participant

    Hi Cali Chica,

    Probably the best advice I ever received was to just observe the thoughts instead of responding to them. Instead of becoming overwhelmed by emotions, respond with strength and calmness. Listening continuously can also really help quiet these unwanted thoughts that lead to all these messed up feelings. The drama with your mom I think is a pretty common storyline, but it’s hard to give advice about this type of situation. I think good advice is to try to respond in a way you think your mom would respect instead of becoming overwhelmed. I ironically found when I stay calm and think about how I can help the person with their own negativity can be a great way to grow in the relationship.

    Also, instead of focusing on the bad, perhaps you can instead focus on the person you want to become and make progress toward that person everyday. I like to imagine the person I want to be and then break down that person into goals and steps toward that goal. Focusing on progress and the goodness you create can be a lot better than thinking about things that you wish were different. Try to focus on the hope instead of the negativity.

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