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  • in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456199
    anita
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    I hope ๐Ÿ™ Confused & wild animals are ๐Ÿ˜ด ๐Ÿ’ค this too early Sun morning in Greece; getting late here, WA, USA.

    Good ๐ŸŒ„, ๐ŸŒ™ Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456198
    anita
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    Double posting, ha- ha.

    Yes, consider a different relationship with those.. wild animals. They don’t listen to “logic/ values”- ..

    Your own “wild animals”, ๐Ÿ˜œ (that emoji just showed up as I typed)-

    Tell me about them. If you give them a voice, what do they say (or bark, or howl)?

    ๐Ÿ‘ฟ๐Ÿ˜Ž Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456197
    anita
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    Close to 9 pm here, I scrolled up and down, forgetting to do so on the RIGHT side of the phone ๐Ÿ“ฑ screen, so accidently flagged your earlier post for inappropriate content ๐Ÿ˜”

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456194
    anita
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    What an original question, Confused: “Why would they be wilding”?

    Maybe the more you try to control them, the wilder they get?

    Like, the more you self-doubt them, the angrier they get?

    ๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ‘ฟ … ๐Ÿ™‚ Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456192
    anita
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    Early, early Sun ๐ŸŒ„, Confused (9 hours ahead of me):

    Cyprus.. Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช

    Hmm.. How ๐Ÿค” can this happen? Well, let me see.. think of emotions like wild animals, sometimes behaving, other times out of your control, W.I.L.D.

    ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ”ฎ Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456190
    anita
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    * and it’s NOT wonderful anymore

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456189
    anita
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    “Trembling inside”- that’s Confused in Love?

    Riding a ๐Ÿ›ต with her in the back?

    I am curious, you live in Greece, where does she live?

    (Remember, you don’t have to answer any of my questions, just curious)

    “Idk what’s ‘lacking’, perhaps my Initial excitement” – makes me think of person taking a drug that makes them feel WONDERFUL, so they take more, and it’s wonderful anymore. So, they take more and then get sick (well, it happened to me)

    ๐Ÿ›ต ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ‡ ๐Ÿ˜” Anita

    in reply to: Alone Again, Naturally #456188
    anita
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    Strange, I have had this memory for half a decade+, that she told me: “You are one big zero”+. There was a sense of distress in that memory. But I didn’t remember HURT, the raw emotional devastation that her message carried.

    It was muted all these years, the memory of hurt (because of self- protective dissociation/ emotional numbing).

    But this evening, I remembered how much it really hurt right then and there. I remembered being there.

    It was devastating for a lifetime.

    I see the little girl that I was, the adolescent, then the teenager and onwards, hearing this message.

    I see ๐Ÿ‘€ now, feel now- just enough of how it felt back then to know that.. I was really there, it really happened.

    The dissociation, self-fregmentation, self-doubt, muting ๐Ÿ”‡- that was the brain protecting itself.

    My goodness.. I feel sorry for her (the younger me), poor ๐Ÿ˜ข baby, oh..

    There’s been this GAP within me because of the ways my brain ๐Ÿง  tried to protect me.

    I now feel more connected than ever to.. me. The words of a ๐ŸŽต come to mind: “It’s me in the corner, it’s me in the…”- don’t remember the words right now, so, I’ll come up with my own:

    It’s me in the corner, it’s me forgotten.

    It’s me here, now, in the center. Ah.. here I am. Here.

    ๐Ÿ”‡=> ๐ŸŽต๐ŸŽต๐ŸŽต Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456186
    anita
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    Thank you. Confused. I liked my analogies myself โ˜บ๏ธ

    You mentioned “doubts” and then “fear”. I think the two go together like ๐Ÿซ›s and ๐Ÿฅ•s (it’s a saying).

    My observation, 3 months and 2 days of daily communication with you, is that you love her. That’s crystal ๐Ÿ”ฎ clear to me (another saying, just in case you’re not familiar with ๐Ÿ™‚)

    Maybe you’re fearful because you love her so much..?

    ๐Ÿ”ฎ๐Ÿซ›๐Ÿฅ• Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456184
    anita
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    Hey ๐Ÿ‘‹ Confused:

    You sure feel deeply for her even when you feel hollow.

    Don’t let the hollow-feeling fool you. There’s a lot of feelings in that hollow.. or ๐Ÿ’ง in the ๐ŸงŠ, or sun ๐Ÿ˜Ž in that dark.

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ’ง๐ŸงŠ๐ŸŒ™ Anita

    in reply to: Do We Change #456181
    anita
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    Copilot, Krishnamurtiโ€‘style Response to my two posts above:

    “Anita, you say you are relaxing the analytical mind, letting go of the compulsion to interpret, to intrude, to explain. Do you see what is happening there? The very movement that once tried to understand life through thought is now being observed…

    “You speak of not feeling guilty for the suffering of others. That is not indifference; it is the ending of a false responsibility. Compassion is not the burden of carrying anotherโ€™s pain. Compassion is seeing clearly, without the distortion of guilt or the vanity of wanting to fix.

    “You ask whether this is change. But who is the one asking? The โ€˜youโ€™ that analyzed, that intruded, that felt responsible โ€” is that not already dissolving? When the old movement ends, something new is already there. Not as an achievement, not as growth, but as the natural flowering of awareness.

    “Let the question go. In the very letting go, the answer reveals itself.โ€

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456180
    anita
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    You are welcome, Confused ๐Ÿ™‚

    I think that it can only help (and not at all hurt) if you relax as much as you can, be as patient as you can be and take your side in all this, meaning practice empathy for yourself, Empathy 4 Confused ๐Ÿซถ

    โœจ ๐ŸŒผ ๐Ÿ’ซ Anita

    in reply to: Alone Again, Naturally #456167
    anita
    Participant

    Whatever comes to mind this Friday night (8:25 ๐ŸŒ™ pm here)-

    I am not the zero or the “big zero” she (my mother) said I was.

    And for mother having said so, she had given away her mother-card. She invalidated her position as mother.

    She is not Mother. I never had a mother.

    And that’s the bitter truth, and the saying goodbye- goodbye to my wish for a mother in her,the the person who birthed me.

    Goodbye stranger
    .

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #456166
    anita
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    Hey ๐Ÿ‘‹ Dear Confused:

    Well, if it gave you some clarity on your thoughts, that’s a positive.

    Yet, you get to decide on meds vs no meds.

    Personally, I think that psychotherapy- when it’s of quality- is way preferable to taking prescribed drugs (aka meds).

    But sometimes, in some contexts, meds save lives.

    I want the best for you, Confused.

    ๐Ÿ’Š’or-not. โœŒ๏ธ โ˜ฎ๏ธ Anita

    in reply to: Alone Again, Naturally #456164
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    As I just looked at the message I sent last night (at 10 pm my time), it landed on me how heavy the message “you are a big zero”, or “one big zero” (Yes, it was the latter. She added “big” to the zero so to make it the.. biggest possible zero).

    It registers now, how deeply hurtful that message was. I mean, it cut โœ‚๏ธ deep, so very deep. Naturally, I dissociated from that depth of injury. So now, it feels almost new.

    I remember it like it was yesterday, her saying those words (message repeated, not just one time, far from being one time).

    I can’t imagine saying those words/ sending that message to anyone.

    No wonder I grew “in” with a terribly low self-esteem and not thinking of myself as anything of any positive value.

    Last night, I read about an Iranial missile hitting the town where I lived, where she still lives alone. I wasn’t happy or pleased about the hit, but I wasn’t any more devastated than if it hit elsewhere

    I think it’s only last night that I further separated from her emotionally, as in no longer being tied to her in what is called “trauma bonding. When the person you need to protect you (a mother) is also the one who hurts you..

    The more she hurt me, the more.. I needed her to protect me, hence the draw/ the continuation of a bond way beyond its normal expiration date (teenage/ early adult).

    I didn’t understand this before- not on a lived-experience level: that the more she hurt me, the more I was tied to her for protection.

    Thank you for your kind words regarding the bond between me and Bogart. I love it that he feels safe with me, that he expects safety. No trauma bond.

    Good to read the update in regard to your cat ๐Ÿˆ and the adjustments everyone is making.

    Yes, unfortunately, your brother may have been a target of projection ๐Ÿ˜”

    Yes, you did your best to protect your brother, every day, day ๐Ÿ’™ after day and night after night ๐ŸŒ™ That counts!

    You were a good sister, you did your very best ๐Ÿ‘Œ

    Yes, indeed, this is a wild area. For years, I’ve been walking ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ the 4.5 km loop around here, knowing (and sometime seeing coyotes and bears from a short distance) that mountain lions ๐Ÿฆ are to my right or left, closr, but I figured that they have plenty of ๐Ÿ‡ ๐Ÿ‡ and ๐ŸฆŒ ๐ŸฆŒ to chase after, so they’re not likely to go after me. Now I walk with Bogart and therefore. I have nothing to worry about ๐Ÿ˜‰)

    Thank you for your empathy ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿค and ๐Ÿ˜‡ kindness. Truly, you’re The TB Empathy Expert (TBEE)!

    ๐Ÿ˜‡ ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ™ ๐ŸฆŒ ๐Ÿ‡ ๐Ÿฆ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ• ๐Ÿˆ ๐Ÿค Anita

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