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Participant* And Merry Christmas, John (I wished you Merry Christmas earlier, on Peter’s thread).
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ParticipantThank you, John!
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December 25, 2024 at 9:43 am in reply to: The phenomenon of “helping someone excessively can make them turn against you” #441014anita
ParticipantDear John and Arden:
Thank you, John, for sharing your thoughtful observation. It’s indeed an interesting and somewhat puzzling phenomenon that you’ve highlighted, one that didn’t occur to me during my conversations with Arden.
It’s true that helpful people often go underappreciated, which can feel quite disheartening. I looked into this “strange… very odd” phenomenon (your words) because I want to understand what’s behind it.
The term Norm of Reciprocity refers to the social expectation that people will respond to each other with similar levels of help and kindness. However, when one person consistently helps others without receiving equivalent help in return, this norm breaks down, and it is often troubling to the one who is being helpful (people like Arden).
The term Habituation is a psychological phenomenon where repeated exposure to a stimulus leads to a decrease in response. In this context, the stimulus is the help offered by a helpful person. At first, the one helped notices and appreciates the help, but over time of repeated exposure to being helped, the one helped stops noticing it- just as people who hear a new sound notice it, but when a sound is repeated (background noise), people become used to it and stop noticing it.
There is a not widely known term- Helper’s Paradox- which describes the paradoxical situation where the more someone helps, the less they are appreciated, leading to feelings of underappreciation and resentment for the helper. Another term- Giver fatigue- it happens when a person who frequently helps others begins to feel emotionally drained and unappreciated, leading to burnout and a decreased willingness to help in the future.
Does this clarify things for you, John? Arden?
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ParticipantDear Rising Flower:
I hope that you are well and that I will be reading from you again. I want to respond to you more positively and empathetically this morning, a month and a day after my last post to you (and assuming the issues you shared about have not yet been resolved, at least not completely):
Navigating the complexities of an arranged marriage, falling for someone else, and dealing with the emotional fallout is an huge burden. Your initial marriage to H, a kind and caring person, and the subsequent entanglement with L, who manipulated your emotions, created a situation filled with conflict and guilt.
The ongoing manipulation and blame from L, despite his marriage to another woman, have understandably caused more emotional turmoil. It’s clear that L’s behavior—his dishonesty, anger issues, and neglect—has significantly impacted your well-being.
Despite recognizing the unhealthy nature of your relationship with L and your own emotional maturity, it’s natural to struggle with deep, complex feelings. Your accidental pregnancy and miscarriage add another layer of emotional pain. It’s important to acknowledge the strength it takes to navigate these challenges and continue seeking healing, and that it’s okay to feel conflicted and to struggle with detaching from someone who has been a significant part of your life for over a decade.
I think that it is the intense emotional roller coaster (highs and lows) of love, hope, disappointment, and pain made it very difficult for you to establish clear boundaries and detach from L: when things are going well, the feelings of joy, love, and connection with L are (I imagine) incredibly intense. These positive emotions create strong, happy memories that overshadow the negative experiences. During the highs, L likely provides affection and validation, which makes you feel valued and loved, reinforcing your attachment to him.
The lows involve conflict, mistreatment, and emotional pain. These experiences are also intense but on the opposite end of the emotional spectrum. The highs and lows create an unpredictable pattern of reinforcement. This is a powerful psychological mechanism where occasional rewards (emotional highs) make the individual crave more, despite the presence of negative experiences (lows).
This pattern is similar to gambling or other addictive behaviors, where the occasional win (positive interaction) keeps the person engaged and hoping for more.
This cycle of highs and lows can lead to trauma bonding, where the individual becomes emotionally dependent on the person causing the pain. The rare moments of affection and kindness are seen as relief from the pain, making them more potent.
I hope that further understanding the addictive power of emotional cycles of high and lows, such as the one you are experiencing (if you still do), as well as the concept of trauma bonding are, or will be helpful to you. Please continue to prioritize your well-being and seek support from therapy and trusted individuals. Your journey is unique, and your emotions are valid. Healing is a gradual process, and it’s okay to take the time you need.
Wishing you strength and clarity as you continue to navigate this complex journey!
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ParticipantM e R r Y C h R i S t M a S M e, as merry as possible, for you and for your father 🎄❄️
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December 25, 2024 at 7:33 am in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #441003anita
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December 25, 2024 at 7:29 am in reply to: Kicked out of the house and cut off from all my family in college – now what? #441002anita
ParticipantI hope you and your family are doing well this Christmas day, Lulu 🎄❄️
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December 25, 2024 at 7:25 am in reply to: The phenomenon of “helping someone excessively can make them turn against you” #441001anita
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ParticipantContinued: Christmas Eve, Dec 24, 2024, 12-24-224: never again this combination 0f 1,2,4 to recurr. Just as- after you, after me- there will never be anyone like you, no one again like me. We are .. each of us is one of a kind, never to recur.
It is amaZing, isn’t it, how unique you are.. and yet, when we are gone, there will be another million of people, unique individuals who are to follow us, billions of unique ones to follow (if global- warming allows).
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