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anita
ParticipantDear butterfly:
“I need huge chunks of focus time and hate being bothered when I am working. I tend to hyperfocus on the task and is very sensitive to interruptions. I feel stressed out for him to barge in dramatically every time he has emotional outbursts. He admitted to be very intense and would not change as it has always been like this“- he said that he will continue to barge in because he’s always done that: no exception for you, no consideration of you, no consideration of what you need.
“I told him that I would build a wall and separate my office from his physically… He said that he would still open the door and barge in”- for crying out loud, how self-centered and selfish!
“I answered that I am not his stress ball to squeeze whenever he wanted. That I need my space“- exactly, you are a person with your own needs and preferences, you are not an object (a stress ball) that exists so to accommodate him.
“Where I went too far was when I said that ‘normal’ people needed time apart and their own space during office hours“- I suppose suggesting that he’s abnormal was not appropriate; self-centered/ selfish would have been appropriate, seems to me.
“He wants to be close to me so much, and I love it but at the same time I hate it… What do you think?“- it’s nice that he wants to be close to you, but.. not at the expense of you. There are two people in the relationship.. not one person (him) and one stress ball (you).
anita
August 13, 2024 at 4:42 pm in reply to: Compromise for Conflict, Marriage or Break up Decision #436166anita
ParticipantDear Sandy:
You made a clear and convincing argument as to why you should not marry this woman, but break up instead: (1) you called the relationship toxic (“I realized that we are in a toxic relationship“), (2) she wants you to live with her and her parents, and you can’t (“she can only marry a man who can live with her parents after marriage, and I can’t because I want to live independently with my wife“), (3) you care about healthy eating habits, she and her parents do not (“I build healthy eating habits, while her family doesn’t“), (4) she and her parents are religious Muslims, you are not (“Her parents don’t know that I am not a religious Muslim, so it would be weird for them if I am not praying. She also lives in a very religious village, so I think the environment wouldn’t fit me well“), (5) you believe in privacy, she does not (“she always wants to know who messages me on WhatsApp or wants to know my social media passwords so she can check them anytime“), there are more differences that you pointed out, but the above is convincing enough (isn’t it?) that marriage with her is a bad idea (a bad idea for you and for her).
“I must decide whether I should marry her or break up, and I have ended up with indecision for some time. What I know is that she thinks breaking up is a negative thing to do“- do you think that breaking up and preventing a troubled and miserable marriage is a negative thing to do?
“Also, I have some questions: 1. Should a couple have the same spiritual path/religion for marriage in order to have a healthy relationship and a happy marriage?“- not necessarily, but a couple has to have the same basic values and expectations in common, such as: living with, or not living with parents after marriage; keeping some privacy after marriage, or not; practicing a certain religion, or not.
“2. Even if I choose another partner who can compromise with me (not her), after some years, values might change. What can we do if we can’t compromise again?“- focus on now, on your current situation, not on a future-maybe- situation. There are serious incompatibilities in this current relationship, now.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Laven:
Thank you for choosing to share about your life here once again. I think that you have a literary talent: you write so clearly and intelligently. The sentence that touched me most is this: “All my life I’ve been wanting people to genuinely include me, accept, want, and love me..“.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
“My husbands childhood was so normal because he doesn’t overact to situations/people like me“- maybe he under-reacts as a result of his version of abnormal childhood.
“For the past 6 years . My anxiety was effecting only ME. Now this anger is effecting my relationships. I never felt this much anger before in my life.“- Rage at not getting the attention you want..?
You can type away your rage here, if you want, let it express itself through your fingers and into the screen..?
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anita
ParticipantI’ll reply in a few hours, Zenith.
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anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
“I wish had a NORMAL childhood so that I don’t have to go through this.“- I understand your sentiment. I used to wish the same, but stopped wishing this, knowing that it-is-what-it-is. I don’t personally know anyone who had a normal childhood. The term “normal childhood” may be wishful thinking in itself.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear taiga:
You shared that you’ve known your wife since the two of you were in your early 20s, (now in your early 30s), been married for more than 5 years, and you “have great admiration and respect for her and.. doting on her“. You want to have sex and a family with her, but every time you tried to consummate the marriage, she rejected you. You figure that she might have “fears and possibly pains“, and tried to persuade her to see a medical specialist, but “she doesn’t seem to think that there is an issue by brushing me off“.
“It is so bad that at times, I’d imagine that I better off stop living in this world… I have now come to the verge of giving up, perhaps myself or this relationship… feeling like a loser or a creep. I look around and see my peers are having a happy family with their kids and it just makes me feel very useless not being able to even consummate our marriage“-
– it is interesting that in a paragraph earlier, in your 2nd sentence, you wrote: “have been happily married“, doesn’t read like happy when you imagine that you might be better off not living in this world, when you feel like a loser or a creep, useless and envious of your peers.
“I have great admiration and respect for her… she doesn’t seem to think that there is an issue by brushing me off“- seems like she doesn’t respect you when she repeatedly and knowingly ignores an issue that is troubling you so much.
In some places you can legally annul a marriage for lack of consummation. Here’s from nyc divorce lawyers. com/ can our marriage be annulled if it was never consummated: “When a couple divorces, it is documented in the county in which they live. If a couple is granted an annulment, the marriage is completely erased from all records as if it never happened at all. Because this type of dissolution is so extreme, there must be a good reason for it to be granted. Below is an overview of how annulments work and if you can obtain one if your marriage was never consummated…
“The law allows annulments to take place in cases where the marriage was never consummated or one party was impotent or otherwise unable to consummate the marriage. It is important to determine if one party was deceitful and never intended to consummate the marriage in an annulment, as well”.
Notice the last sentence in the quote above: if your wife never intended to consummate the marriage, then she has been deceitful.. and that’s definitely disrespectful of you.
More thoughts and quotes:
Asexuality is a lack of sexual attraction to others, having a low or absent interest or desire for sexual activity. Your wife may be asexual.
Hypoactive sexual desire disorder (HSDD) is a diagnosable disorder in regard to having a low/ absent sexual desire for an extended period of time, and which causes the person distress.
Psychology today/ sexual desire disorder: “Sexual desire disorder is a psychiatric condition marked by a lack of desire for sexual activity over a prolonged period… To meet the criteria for female sexual interest-arousal disorder, the symptoms must be present for at least six months and cause significant distress to the individual…
“Some risk factors for developing a sexual desire disorder include: * Negative attitudes about sexuality, *Relationship difficulties (poor communication, abuse)… * Medical conditions… * History of emotional or physical abuse… * Other psychiatric diagnosis (depression, anxiety) * medication side effects..”.
Is the above of any help to you, taiga?
anita
anita
ParticipantI am so sorry, taiga: it’s been 5 years of a non-consummated marriage.. not a real-marriage, is it? (I will reply further Mon morning, Sun night here).
anita
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ParticipantDear Zenith:
“It reminds me of my college days. When I stayed in dorms I had a roommate who started ignoring me when she met her new friend“- this memory of yours reminds me that I too am very sensitive to being ignored and other people being preferred/ chosen over me. This is a very painful experience in my own childhood, growing up and since, although I am getting better at not overreacting, emotionally or behaviorally.
If I see a person attending to someone else, laughing with someone else, not including me, I automatically feel hurt and angry, but when I talk to myself and look at the situation from a different angle, I feel better. For example, I think to myself: sometime I too attend to one person and I don’t include others (and I should include others whenever possible and appropriate), or I think: this person enjoys talking to that other person, that’s all it means. It’s not a reflection of my worth- or lack of.
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ParticipantDear Zenith:
Aug 10: “I feel like I am good enough. I feel like my friend is not good enough. She is the one who caused the distance by mingling with other group of people“, Aug 6: “This has been happening since childhood. When I look at my past or since I started schooling. There were so many friends who were so close with me in the beginning and they would leave me when they found new friends“- it is your painful childhood experience, since you started schooling, that is awakening in your life now, as an adult.
It feels like what you feel is unique to what is happening now, but the intensity of your hurt and anger is about what happened 20-30 years ago. I know that you wrote in regard to the above (Aug 6): “I never left angry or obsessed about it. I would just let it go. I am unable to let go of this friend“- when we experience deep hurt and anger as children, we instinctually push it down to below our awareness (feeling numb to it), but then what is pushed down rises up and enters our awareness- in a new, adult context.
The article you sent me a link to ends with: “Have the courage to seek the truth within yourself and acknowledge the effect of your thoughts, beliefs, and actions with compassion and without judgment. Only then can you choose a different way, a freer way. Sitting across from her that day, there was freedom. I could feel it. And I think she could feel it too.”-
– (1) have the courage, Zenith, to seek the truth within you: the truth about how you really felt growing up when your close friends left you to be with new friends (at least how you felt initially, before pushing down your feelings), (2) practice compassion for yourself as you remember the truth (and later on, find compassion for those you currently judge, whenever possible and appropriate), and (3) experience a measure of much needed freedom from the parts of your past that have been so painful.
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Clara:
You are welcome, and thank you for the invitation to ask you again how you are feeling/ doing. “I have some ups and downs, but definitely a lot more ups than downs. Or, more neutral/ calm than downs“- recovery in-progress!
“I think asking her move away ASAP is the right thing to do“- yes, it was the right thing to do.
“I just didn’t know whether the ‘how’ is ‘ok’, and the emotions in between is ‘ok’ or not, like I told her off and said she was an idiot...”- emotions get messy during difficult, challenging times. We are not a perfect specimen, as you know. When I say things I regret later on, I make a mental note of what not to say in a similar situation in the future, and I pretty much let go of it.
“I have grown from there and it is as if my lens for my family has changed. There is a sense of calmness when I am at my parents home now, previously I felt easier irritated by little things. So, I think, this is definitely a huge plus of her leaving me… The other day, I gave my mom a proper, big hug. As Asian we don’t really show that much affection… Very interestingly she almost hugged me immediately without hesitation… I was trying to solidify that secure attachment feelings and I think it worked… this should have built my ‘family island’…The whole realization of the secure attachment, calmed my nervous system– excellent attitude and work, Clara!
“I got myself some plants today… Now that her things are gone I have plenty of space and I am trying to fill the places with things I like“- I think that to fill the space left by her moving out with plants is a way better choice, at this point, than to fill it in with a pet, or a tattoo. Good progress overall, Clara, I am impressed!
anita
August 11, 2024 at 10:56 am in reply to: Happy when I’m with my boyfriend, but upset when we’re not together? #436055anita
ParticipantDear t:
“I was very emotionally numb as a child and have mostly successfully avoided my mother as an adult. I have never experienced this kind of outward emotional instability with crying and everything“- the pushed down crying and everything was there within you since childhood, it’s just that it recently rose to the surface.
In your original post, you wrote: “When we aren’t spending time together I am extremely emotional in ways I have never experienced before“- I think that long ago, as a child, you experienced being extremely emotional before you instinctively pushed that extreme emotionality down below your full awareness (repressed ad suppressed it), resulting in feeling numb.
“The biggest similarity I see is that my boyfriend, like my mother, has good intentions. He never intends to hurt me but hurts me anyways“- my mother, who behaved similarly to yours, repeatedly told me that her intentions were always good. It confused me a whole lot: why do (supposed) good intentions hurt so much? It is only within the last few years that I understood- finally- that what she told me so many times wasn’t true.
Lets look at what you shared July 30: “Growing up my mother never communicated but expected me to read her mind and anticipate her moods and needs. If I didn’t do this, she would blow up and yell, throw things, etc.“- when she blew up, yelled, threw things, etc., she was angry, wasn’t she? What is the motivation/ intention behind anger (in animals, not only in humans), if not to hurt (or to threaten to hurt) the object of one’s anger?
Back to your recent post: “Then it’s followed by lots of reassurance – affection, ‘I love yous,’ talks about fun things we’ll do in the future. A very similar pattern to my mother, though of course the arguments were different (my boyfriend has not yelled at me or anything like that).“- once your mother was done expressing and releasing her anger against you (however temporarily), she tried to make it up to you, to sort of, undo her violence with I-love-yous, etc., wasn’t she?
That’s what my mother did. I think that she was trying to make herself feel better: to feel like a good, loving mother (her preferrable image of herself), following her verbal and physical violence against me.
But your boyfriend, exhibiting no violence against you, when he is being reassuring and affectionate- he is trying to make you feel better. A different pattern, different motivation?
anita
anita
ParticipantDear YoungMufasa:
In my reply, I will explore my feelings and attitudes as I try to understand your situation (and myself) better.
“I had one relationship in the past, but it was short-lived and not physical. Since then, I’ve tried online relationships, which can be hit or miss—fun at times, but ultimately unsatisfying since they’re all digital… I also have a habit of watching porn and masturbating before bed“- I grew up with, and still carry shame in regard to sex. As I typed the previous sentence, it was even difficult for me to type the word “sex” (yet I typed it again, lol). Therefore, as I read about you masturbating before bed, having had some image of what it looks like, I was somewhat uncomfortable and judgmental. It is as if I wish humanity (and the animal kingdom) was not sexual. And yet, reality does not accommodate my attitude and wishes, and sex continues to be a powerful force, generally more powerful in males because of testosterone (the male sex hormone).
Overcoming my unrealistic attitude means that I remove my judgment of you masturbating: I understand that a male sexual drive is a very powerful one. It is not a matter of choice; it’s a matter of nature.
“Now that I’m working in a job that involves frequent travel in the hotel industry, I’m feeling like I’m not ready for a serious relationship yet and am more interested in exploring different types of relationships and experiences, including dating women from various ethnic backgrounds like Asian, Latina, Romanian, and Italian. I feel like I don’t want to miss out on these experiences before eventually settling down and finding a serious partner. I know it’s absurd“- I wonder if your interest in dating (having sex with) women of different ethnic backgrounds has to do with having watched porn involving women of different ethnic backgrounds..?
Which brings me to my attitude about pornography: I dislike it very much, and wish it didn’t exist. I think that although it provides a service short-term, it harms long-term.
Back to you: I understand that nature is behind your sexual drive, and technology is behind you watching porn, the industry that accommodates and profits from this part of nature, and I think that your desire to perhaps copy the experiences you watched on the screen, irl, could be a problem: when eventually settling down with a serious partner, will the porn images and.. creative ideas disappear? Will you still be watching porn because it’s a habit?
“My high sex drive makes me feel like something is missing, especially since physical touch is important to me“- Your high sex drive needs a real person to touch and be sexual with, so clearly, something (a real person) is missing.
“I’m looking for some advice or insights on how to navigate these feelings and desires and probably some solutions.”- my advice: begin the process of breaking the habit of watching porn (start at the present time, way before you consider a serious relationship). A quick online search just now brought me to psychology today/Addicted to Porn? How to Get Back in Control, and very well mind/ How to Stop Watching Porn.
I just read that within a serious relationship/ marriage, some couples who both watch pornography (each supporting the other watching it) report that it helps their marriage, but otherwise, and most commonly, it harms marriages. From Utah State University/ effects of pornography on relationships: “Within couple intimate relationships, pornography can have negative impacts in the following ways… : * User faces difficulty becoming sexually aroused without pornography… * Pornography consumption may be correlated with increased behaviors of hooking up and infidelity. * Partner feels sexually inadequate and threatened by pornography use. … * Both user and partner experience decreased relationship sexual satisfaction and emotional closeness. * Relationship trust decreases due to dishonesty and deception about pornography use…”.
I would like to read your response, YoungMufasa, to my reply.
anita
August 10, 2024 at 9:08 am in reply to: Feeling of abandonment when boyfriend is traveling for work #436041anita
ParticipantDear bby1212:
His heavy- duty travelling lifestyle does not fit with what you need: a partner who is there with you, regularly, reliably.
“at the end of the day it feels unfair that someone would choose to be gone from their partner for so long without any type of reconsidering their job“- his priority is to continue his job and travelling, not how you feel about it. And by itself, it’s his right to prioritize his job over a relationship. It’s your right to accept or reject being in a relationship with him.
“I broke it off in the spring due to a SLEW of issues mostly caused by him traveling so much, so sporadically, and for so long“- would you like to elaborate on the slew of issues?
anita
anita
ParticipantDear Zenith:
“I felt better when I read the article. But…“- But OCD took that feeling-better away from you, telling you that your case is different from the article-author’s case, therefore her solutions (“1. Accept the relationship as it is…2. Challenge your faulty beliefs…3. Practice a new way and let go of expectations”) don’t apply to you.
But the author’s solutions do apply to you, Zenith, regardless of this or that difference (no 2 stories are identical).
The author wrote: “I became aware of this mantra that I had been repeating in my head: ‘I don’t belong.’ This belief was like an infection, poisoning my mind and tainting how I saw our friendship”-
– her mantra/ core belief was “I don’t belong”. How would you word your mantra in regard to this friendship, the mantra that keeps adding fuel to your OCD and making you suffer?
anita
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