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anitaParticipantHi again, Peter:
As I was preparing to leave, after reading your recent 2 posts, it occurred to me what I think you mean: that all past efforts on your part to earn self worth (including being “good”) failed and now, what is working for you is the non-effort way, to connect with your Tao essence that requires you to NOT try anything anymore, just.. sort of melt into what you are beyond efforts, labels, etc. Did I understand correctly?
Anita
anitaParticipantHi Peter: Got to run, so I’ll reply to you in hours from now.
anitaParticipantDear Roberta:
“What do you believe good is? & how do you manifest it?”- Good is first Do-No-Harm, and second, to Help people who need help. And to help in ways that don’t harm.
For example, my mother helped me shower and dress me even when I was a teenager. It was Harmful Help (HH), the kind of help I so wish I never received because it squashed my autonomy and shamed me.
Another example of HH: in these forums, with the intent to help (and to please myself because I enjoy analyzing people), I have analyzed OPs who didn’t ask for my analyses, and I have no doubt that sometimes my analyses harmed people, at least, made them feel uncomfortable, intruded upon.
Manifesting good has to involve awareness and honest self reflection in regard to what it is that motivates me, what I need, and what the other person needs.
“Does drawing/painting & or physically writing with a pen help?”- it used to, very much so. I hardly ever write and I haven’t drawn or painted for years and years.
“For me visualization & mantra are a good medium to counteract negativity that arises in my mind & helps me move forward in a positive way.”- I use your GRACE mantra every single day, in a paraphrased, shortened form. Thank you, Roberta!
Best wishes back to you, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa: I just checked, the last time a message of mine was reported for inappropriate content was on Dec 3 (the flagging note is still there). Nothing about it was inappropriate. I asked the OP about it and he said it was strange that it was reported as there was nothing inappropriate about it.
I do hope we all share about good things happening in the new year (and every day until then). May we focus on the positives best we can. đŠľđ¤Anita
anitaParticipantWell, Thomas, I figure if anyone has a problem with any of your posts, or mine, they should directly say so, and explain why: be honest and direct about it.
It could have been anyone scrolling through messages and accidently clicking “Report”.
Regardless, Thomas- I’m with you.. I appreciate you, and want to read more and more from you!
Anita
anitaParticipant* Clarifying Note:
When I call her âmy personal Nazi,â Iâm not making a literal comparison to history. I grew up in Israel in the 60s and 70s, surrounded by Holocaust educationâfilms, school lessons, stories. Those images shaped the language of fear and oppression inside me. So when I describe my motherâs abuse this way, itâs because thatâs how it felt to me as a child: relentless, terrifying, and dehumanizing, like living under siege.
This metaphor is my way of giving voice to the extremity of my experience. Itâs not meant to diminish history, but to express the depth of my own personal reality.
Anita
anitaParticipantProcessing:
“Maternal Terrorism”, my term (MT) above, ha-ha. An original.
Was my life with her absolutely miserable? Yes. It REALLY was.
Has her abuse lived in my body every single day of my life, in the form of tics and somatic tension- every hour, every day of my life? Yes.
I referred to her, in my mind, since I was a teenager (or in my very early 20s) as my private Naz- she has been just that, and my childhood= my personal holocaust.
It really has been that bad.
And now, I want to exit that personal holocaust MORE thoroughly than I have recently, to be more and more open to something else, something new. But not before I fully accept, and no longer resist the truth of my decades-long experience: that of being a victim of MT.
I want to move my attention elsewhere, farther and farther away from her, beyond the huge physical distance between me and MT, and into a mental-emotional safe distance. I want a life that’s mentally removed from her. I want Independence, autonomy.. what’s the word.. self-determination. To be a woman, a grownup; no longer an abused girl.
Anita
anitaParticipant* Is the flagging of the above post done by accident, a mistake? (I don’t see anything inappropriate about it)
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
You are inviting me to pick one truth I believe (like âI am goodâ), stop reâchecking it, and let it live inside me without effort.
Whatâs been in my way is another belief: that my mother was good, and since she told me I was bad, she must be right. That message was drilled into me for decades, and I still find myself pulled back into seeing her as good, which automatically means I am bad. Itâs like old pathways in my brain that keep reâactivating.
Yet I wonder now, following your invitation0: what if I build a new pathway that doesnât depend on her at all? One that simply says âI am good,â without needing to see her in any particular way. A truth that is mine alone, one that’s not dependent on seeing her any which way?
The last three words in your post were âliving more freely.â Maybe this is my way of stepping into what you call Flowâor Presenceâby letting âI am goodâ live in me freely, without needing her permission, and discovering how that truth can carry me forward.
Iâd be curious to read how this idea of separating my goodness from her image resonates with you, since youâve been exploring Flow in your own way.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Dear Peter:
“Anita, no need for apologies…”- Thank you, Peter.
“What strikes me, though, is that sometimes the analysis seems to keep you-us circling in the past rather than moving forward. I recognize that may be a projection of a pattern I notice in myself.”-
At this point in my life, in these days, my analyses (helped by Copilot) help me move forward. Thing is (perhaps you don’t know it about me), I have learning disabilities, so I repeat analyses because I forget and need to refresh, not that I am stuck but rather.. I forget and need a lot of repetition. So, it’s not overthinking for me.. It’s forgetting and having to re-think. Think from the beginning.
Sincerely, Peter, mentally, emotionally, relationally, I am doing a whole lot better than I ever did.
“I wonder what it might feel like for you to pick one of your own realization, maybe about goodness, or about love arising when we stop forcing, and simply rest in it, trusting it as truth that doesnât need reinforcing with analysis or justification. Perhaps that could be a way to step into the freedom you already glimpse.”-
Well, it happened today in the “Real Spirituality” thread. Following the submission of the post there, I did rest in what I expressed there, I trusted in the truth I expressed there and I had let it go. I wasn’t even afraid.
“This, to me, is how I imagine Flow.. much like the Tao, moving not by effort but by trust in what already is.”- The Flow is difficult for me because of the Tourette tics which involve bodily tension and holding my breath with every tic. I read that although I can’t aim at stopping the tics, I can change my relationship to them. Let them Flow, instead of resisting them.. Practice Tic Tao (TT), lol.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantThank you, Thomas. We’re all work in progress.. if we care to work it đ.
And I am sorry too, Thomas. Let’s become better and better people together..
đ¤ Anita
December 15, 2025 at 11:36 am in reply to: âHe initiated closeness, then disappeared â still hurting months laterâ #452994
anitaParticipantDear Adalie:
You are very welcome. I hope that your marriage resolves somehow and that your confusion and hurt lessen and lessen. I am glad to read that “it will be that way forever”, so, there’s hope for something new and better. Please post anytime you need someone to talk to. I am here.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHello Everyone:
James, I went back to your early posts in the forums, and was surprised by how different they are from your recent:
James, Aug 28: “Hi Allessa, Thank you very much â¤ď¸ Radical acceptance is not passive. It is the deepest strength. When fear comes, you donât resist it; you let it be seen. When anger arises, you donât judge it; you allow it to pass like a cloud… The paradox is: by accepting everything, the heart opens completely, and care flows naturally. You donât ‘try’ to care love, compassion, and right action simply arise.”
James, Aug 30: “Dear Anita, Radical Acceptance is not just about accepting situations outside of you, itâs about accepting what is happening inside you / your thoughts, emotions, fears, and impulses without resistance. Itâs a full acknowledgment that life, including all feelings, is unfolding exactly as it is… Notice the fear fully, without trying to push it away… You donât become ‘the fear’; you simply let it appear and pass through…letting the emotion move through your body and mind without clinging. The inner dialogue is simple: âThis is here, it is happening, and it is passing.â There is no need to argue with it, suppress it, or attach meaning to it… hope it helps. With love.”
James, Sept 3: “Hi Peter… Thank you very much for great conversation â¤ď¸ With Love”
James, Sept 9: “Ms. Alessa, Thank you very much, it is your beauty â¤ď¸â¤ď¸â¤ď¸”
Beautiful, compassionate, patient, loving messages including red heart emojis.
What happened between then and now to James’s compassion, patience and love and to the red heart emojis..?
Looking back this morning, my answer is that Thomas and I joined forces and attacked James unfairly. I want to present my best understanding of what happened so to change my behavior when similar circumstances arise in the future, and perhaps offer you, Thomas (fellow co-attacker) to do the same, if you are humble enough to consider what I am saying.
I know it’s not easy and part of me wants to say nothing so to not embarrass myself, and in addition, I am afraid that this post will bring about some defensive attack against me by you, Thomas. But I’ll risk it so to align myself with the truth regardless of the cost to me.
James to Thomas, Sept 3 (patient, humble, reasonable): “I fully hear what you are saying. It is true â speaking of ‘no self’ to someone who is carrying deep trauma can feel like dismissing their pain. That is not my intention. What you say… about meeting people with compassion, listening to them, holding space â that is deeply valid. Wisdom without compassion is empty.”
…Thomas to James, Oct 4 (hostile, accusatory): “Cause arenât you preaching your knowledge. Could ask what are you selling??… So, I read more and more of your posts. They simply ignore the truth of those who come here looking for some healing. What you present isnât false. It just lacks the compassion that I would expect from one as wise as you… I’m not attacking, I just feel annoyed that your truths isnât helping others. Yeah, I think I should keep quiet from now on.”
Anita to Thomas, Oct 4 (siding with the attacker excitedly): “Wow! Wow, Thomas168/ Tommy- You said it perfectly. I am so impressed with you, and grateful that you are back here- honest, direct, valid. I have a new appreciation of you this Sat night, 8:53 pm here. đżđ¤ Anita”
Thomas to James, Dec 4 (challenging James to reply to members): “And I have asked you to share your wisdom and compassion with those who come here for their suffering. I donât know. Have you done anything else than start your own topics and replied to them. Have you posted help and advice on anotherâs thread for hope? Have you lent that compassionate ear to learn of otherâs pain and suffering?”
James to Ann, Dec 11 (in Ann’s thread, replying to a member as Thomas suggested, a reply that I believe to be a positively worthy reply): “Dear Ann, You donât understand your boyfriend and your boyfriend doesnât understand you. You are not a perfect match to him, he is not a perfect match to you. You are a very sensitive person, he is not. Just break up. Feel hurt couple weeks, then inevitably you will forget. Peace.”
Thomas to James (in Ann’s thread, attacking James for his message), Dec 12-13: “Relationships arenât about a perfect match… To give outright advice that a couple should break up?? Makes me wonder whose shoulders one stand upon??…So, love is whatever happens still being with that person and support no matter what? If that person is abusive then love is still being with that person? No matter what? Ridiculous… Your advice is to split/break up. You know exactly what her situation is? Rather than having compassion and lending a ear. To listen and give an encouraging word. You give advice of which you have no idea what that would do?? Where is your compassion? What wisdom do you hold?…”
Anita to James, Dec 13 (joining the attack): “You wrote: âMany of you here to say kind words or saying ah darling you are so good stuff or heart emojis stiff⌠But all is a lie.â- I am 99.99% sure that you just called me a liar. Did you (I am asking because I have 0.01% hope that you didnât…”
Thomas to James, Dec 13 (siding with co-attacker): “I ask nicely to not bring Anita into this. She is a nice person and does not deserve any bitterness from you. So, please leave her out of this.”
Anita to Thomas, Dec 13 (grateful to co-attacker): “Thank you so much, Thomas, for standing up for me. I am moved by your words more than I can say”.
I ask myself: what has been my emotional motivation behind feeling excited when witnessing one person (Thomas) attack another (James)âand then siding with the attacker, so I researched:
“Possible Emotional Motivations- * Adrenaline & Arousal: Conflict triggers a surge of adrenaline. For some, that heightened state feels exciting, even if the situation is violent.
“* Tribal Instincts: Humans evolved to form groups and side with ‘our team.’ Seeing an attacker can activate a primitive urge to align with perceived strength or dominance.
“* Power Identification: People sometimes side with aggressors because they represent control, authority, or rebellionâqualities that can feel appealing if someone feels powerless themselves.
“* Schadenfreude: This is the German term for pleasure at anotherâs misfortune. If the victim is disliked or seen as deserving, siding with the attacker can feel emotionally satisfying.
“* Social Conformity: If others around are cheering the attacker, individuals may join in to avoid isolation, mistaking group excitement for their own.
“* Projection of Anger: Sometimes people carry unresolved frustration. Watching someone else attack can feel like a release of their own suppressed emotions, so they identify with the aggressor.”
Of the above, what applies to me as motivations were: (1) Adrenaline & Arousal (“Wow! Wow”) (2) A primitive urge to align with perceived strength or dominance (Thomas). (3) My own unresolved anger. I’ll need to work on these things in my own thread, fittingly titled: “A Personal Reckoning”.
I will close this post with an apology to James for my part in harassing you. No wonder you lost your patience and affection (red heart emojis) over time and expressed yourself more and more bluntly and defensively, and no wonder you don’t feel like posting again. Thank you for all the positive, wise input (part of which I quoted above), and if you do choose to post again, I promise you, there’ll be no more attacks or co-attacks by me.
Anita
anitaParticipantExpressing, night time: I was an adolescent- teenager when I watched “meathead” (Rob Reiner), Archie Bunker’s son in-law in All In The Family. Today, he was murdered.
Watching the show was one of the bright spots in my week back then.
Murdered along with his wife at 78 and 68 years-old, in their home in LA, a result of a break in. Details not known. I will miss “Meathead”!… News: their son (drug addicted/ homeless..?) killed both his parents.!
Also, earlier today, in Bondi Beach, Sydney, Australia, following an antisemitic terrorist attack (by a Pakistani father and son), 15â16 Hanuka- celebrating Jewish people were murdered, and around 40â42 others were injured and hospitalized.
An Arab Australian fought against the son, got shot but will survive, a HERO!
So much wrong being done in our world, which brings me back.. to my mother. To state facts: I’ve been suffering from significant tics and bodily distress every single day, 6 decades- because my mother (Jewish..?) tortured me.
To be true to truth, my mother was my personal, private terrorist, my “private Nazi” as I referred to her in my 20s. She repeatedly threatened to murder me, and herself (separate threats), literally terrorizing me, causing great somatic tension/ tics every single day in my body for SIX decades.
She beat/hit/slap/kick me and shamed me and tortured me.. whenever she was moved to do so.. Not all the time, only when she needed to, when she “had no choice” (her words) but to protest against what she claimed I was doing against her (her paranoid personality disorder part), so she tortured me and felt justified, she felt victimized by me while victimizing me.
It may take me a whole lifetime to come to terms with the real, unusual abuse I was handed by she/it, my private Nazi.. It takes a lifetime to FULLY process it.
She told me, “I know I’m wrong” (to abuse me), “but what are you’re going do, you have nowhere to go”
It’s bad when one’s Mother is one’s Personal, 1-2-1 Terrorist.
So, the two Pakistanis in Australia were terrorists.. and so was my mother- in MY life, and in the lives of a few others. Didn’t gather publicity, and yet, it’s as real as real can be. May the tics and tension ease. (I just tic-ed, as I do so very often.. and again while typing these words.. and again, and again).
That’s her terrorism in my muscles.
Truth is trying to make itself FULLY known, it says to me: Yes, she (that mother-thing) was no Mother, it was a Terrorist. Accept this truth. Truth says- Don’t fight it anymore, don’t dilute it. Heal from.. Maternal Terrorism (MT). Yes, this newly coined term sounds just right, as accurate as accurate can be.
Never occurred to me as clearly as this. Now.. any more empathy for my Maternal Terrorist.. wouldn’t be appropriate, would it..?
Anita
anitaParticipantAnd again, thank you Thomas đ for your support, much appreciated đđđ, Anita
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