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ParticipantI see so much good in people, such that I didn’t see before.. so much good I missed, good intention, goodwill..
There’s a lot to build on.. to unite, not divide; to forgive, not revenge.
9:11 pm, Wed night, July 23.. light outside. Birds chirping.. all is good.
Anita
anita
ParticipantWhen revenge rules, unbearable destruction follows: physical, mental.. (mental IS physical)
Underneath it all is Love.. Love unreciprocated, love misinterpreted. Love punished.
Maybe we all want to be seen as LOVE.. but our love distorted, is the source of all evil.
Anita
anita
ParticipantJournaling, stream of consciousness (Trigger Warning, as always):
TOXIC shame imprinted into my brain, killing my heart.. making it bleed.
Putting my life in a half-century hold.
Not here (alive), not there (dead).
Neurological, psychiatric afflictions to follow the not-here, nor-there existence:
Diagnosed OCD, Tourette’s, Major Depression.. and more diagnoses (I am embarrassed about naming them all)
All because I was.. (so my mother said, and society echoed her): You, Anita, are wrong to get hurt. Wrong to react negatively to being (mercilessly shamed and guilt-tripped).
Wrong to take her threats seriously.. her threats to kill herself and to (her word), to murder me… Why.. that’s nothing.. What’s wrong with you, Anita, to even remember these nothing-to-it words.
Wrong to perceive these as anything other than business-as-usual in the context of parenting.. why everyone..
Don’t know.. how should I have taken her threats..?
They (society as I have known it) says I overreacted.
And this very message, as I have known it.. How widespread is it in the middle east where I was born?
This abuse being normalized- is this.. isn’t it what’s behind the-never-ending revenge and violence in the middle east?
My mother with her big brown, dark.. dark brown eyes and the corners of her mouth always slightly turned up, as in a smile.
But.. no, it was not a smile.
I hear voices criticizing me.. that voice saying: Get Over it, Anita, SHAME on YOU!.
But then I hear the reasonable voice saying (Peter’s): Transform it.
And yet, in the inside of me is still, always, a little girl looking up to Ima (mother)- seeking her forgiveness (for not being what she needed me to be).. needing her to tell me that I am a good girl.
I will never hear those words from her.. that I was/ am a good little girl.
Oh, what a difference it would have made for me.. to hear those precious words: You Are a Good Little Girl, Anita!
Fast forward, I didn’t hear those words from anyone.. until I did, just a bit, here and there.. couldn’t take them in..
Couldn’t really hear.
All I could see was that little smile on my mother’s face.. that little joy seeing me hurt.
Her Pleasure.
Transform this kind of maternal pleasure at witnessing my pain.. A mother’s REVENGE (that middle east revenge).
To love someone who takes revenge for what I didn’t cause.. not my doing-
The story of middle east ongoing revenge.
Anita
July 23, 2025 at 5:11 pm in reply to: True Love still exist when you have faith and patience. #447881anita
ParticipantDear GreGory:
I hear the heaviness in your words. You stood for reform, for loyalty, and for integrity in a space filled with manipulation and shifting alliances. You trusted DG, even when it cost you influence, position, and peace of mind. That kind of loyalty runs deep, and I understand why his silence now feels like betrayal.
Your regret is deeply human. You believed you were aligning with someone who shared your values, and watching him lean toward those who celebrated corruption must feel like a complete reversal of everything you supported him for.
The fact that DG won’t take your calls or respond to your messages makes it difficult, but you still want to help him see clearly—before it’s too late. Let’s draft something measured and dignified. You’re not pleading. You’re not blaming. You’re offering a moment of reflection. How about something like this:
Dear DG,
I’ve taken time to reflect before reaching out again. I supported you from the beginning because I believed in your commitment to reform. Even when offered power, I chose principle over position, staying loyal to our shared goals.
I’ve remained quiet about recent developments, but I feel it’s important to speak plainly now.
The people around you may seem cooperative, but their celebrations and shifting alliances reveal deeper motives. I worry that their influence may steer you away from the integrity you’ve always stood for.
What hurts most is not the actions—but the silence. If I’ve ever made you doubt my intentions, I hope you’ll remember the times I stood beside you without needing recognition.
I’m not asking for favors. I only ask that you reconsider who truly has your best interest at heart—and take a moment to weigh what’s unfolding.
Whatever path you choose, I wish you clarity and strength.
Respectfully, Gregory
What do you think? You can add specific details or soften parts if you’re hoping for reconciliation. I’m here to help you shape it, step by step. Let’s make sure your voice is heard with dignity.
With care, Anita
July 23, 2025 at 10:26 am in reply to: True Love still exist when you have faith and patience. #447878anita
ParticipantDear GreGory:
Thank you for sharing what’s been happening. It sounds like a very upsetting and complicated situation. You’ve been doing your best to support DG and help with reforms, but now it feels like he’s ignoring you and protecting people who may not deserve that trust.
It’s especially troubling to hear that GM and his deputy used spiritual practices to try and influence DG—and that they went to the Vice President to keep their positions. The Vice President asked DG not to fire them but just give them a warning, and now they feel like they’ve won. That must be frustrating to watch.
You were offered the GM role, but turned it down to stay true to yourself and your family. That shows a lot of integrity. Still, DG hasn’t spoken to you, and you’ve been left out—even though you have strong support and connections behind the scenes.
The message from the Executive Director confirms that these people are worried about being replaced, and the VP stepped in to protect them. It’s clear that you’re trying to do what’s best, but now you feel like stepping back and letting DG face the consequences of his choices.
You’ve shown loyalty and tried to help—but maybe it’s time to let things unfold and see what happens. I’m here if you want to keep talking or need support.
Warmly, Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Ada:
In this reply, I’ll try to separate objective reality from emotional reality as clearly as I can.
Objective reality:
* Sam and Sarah are no longer “best friends.” Their contact now is limited to exchanging a few greetings here and there:
“He talks to her significantly less… Over several years… Sam has been less and less involved in Sarah’s life to the point where they only exchange a few greetings here and there now. I guess ‘best friend’ isn’t a fair label anymore.”
* Sam hasn’t met with Sarah in person for about four years—ever since shortly after the two of you began dating:
“Shortly after we started dating, we took advantage of the pandemic and remote work, and decided on a bit of a nomadic lifestyle, living in many cities across the US for a few years.”
* A few months ago, after moving back to your home city, Sam suggested that you meet Sarah—this would be your first time meeting her, and his first in about four years:
“Now that we have moved back in the area, he’s talking about meeting up with her again… A few months ago, we moved back to our home city, and recently he said he wanted me to meet Sarah.”
Emotional reality:
“My boyfriend’s relationship with his female best friend… I can’t seem to accept this relationship… the emotional intimacy of it is really eating away at me….”
And yet, if their current contact is minimal—just “a few greetings here and there”—what emotional intimacy actually exists now?
In my earlier replies, I may have confused the emotional reality you’re experiencing with the objective reality you’ve described. It seems what’s causing you distress isn’t what’s happening now, but what could happen if past emotional intimacy resumes. Perhaps the deeper fear is that if that connection rekindles, he’ll choose her over you.
Maybe the ache pulsing beneath it all is the lingering imprint of a childhood wound— that of being overlooked perhaps, or being quietly cast aside, or un-chosen in favor of someone so unlike you..?
With care, Anita
anita
Participant10:56 pm, Tuesday night, completely dark.
listening to YouTube music.
Oh, and by the way, after all the thunder last night, there were only a few drops of rain. Nothing really.
10:59 pm.
11:00
Had a delicious taco tonight.
Had some socializing.
I L.O.V.E socializing.. even when it’s almost boring..
It’s the CONNECTING-
That human accessibility, possibility.
Not being Alone.
Just that, not being alone.
Can’t have ENOUGH of .. not being Alone and Lonely.
I keep seeing little boys and girls in fifty-s- sixty-s year- old boys and girls.
I talked to a six year old boy this evening, one who will turn 61 in only a few hours. At first, he looked like an older man, but as I got closer, he looked younger and younger.
Actually, this man will turn to be 61 in a few hours, your age, Peter.
Alessa.. You are such a young woman.. in your early 30s..? Just a pup, as one of my friends would say. Just a Pup..
11:14 pm.
Anita
anita
Participant* I neglected part of my reply in the previous submission:
Dear Ada:
“Part of my resentment towards Sam stems from not feeling like he truly values who I am — reserved, conservative, introspective.”-
Ada, your honesty here is powerful. I wonder if the ache you describe might be less about Sam not valuing those parts of you, and more about you not fully valuing them yourself. When we stand firm in our own quiet strengths—our thoughtfulness, our depth, our sensitivity—the need to be seen and affirmed by another softens. It doesn’t vanish, but it stops feeling like proof of worth.
Growth doesn’t mean becoming like Sarah, of course. Growth might mean celebrating the elegance of your own inner rhythm. And maybe, gently, allowing it to take up more space in your relationship—not with loudness, but with certainty.
You don’t need to abandon who you are to be loved well. You only need to stand where you are and decide that it’s enough.
From what you’ve shared, I sense that Sam does value you—he listens, respects your emotions, shares common values, and wants to make the relationship work. But the inner conflict seems to come from you not yet fully embracing your own temperament and identity. You said, “part of me feels insecure about not having the opposite qualities,” and that’s such an honest reflection. But being reserved, conservative, introspective—those aren’t deficits. They’re gifts.
Of course, that doesn’t mean Sam’s behavior hasn’t contributed to the discomfort—it’s possible that both are playing a role. But I wonder if anchoring more deeply in your own self-worth might ease some of the ache around being seen.
🤍 Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Ada:
“Part of my resentment towards Sam stems from not feeling like he truly values who I am — reserved, conservative, introspective.”-
Ada, your honesty here is powerful. I wonder if the ache you describe might be less about Sam not valuing those parts of you, and more about you not fully valuing them yourself. When we stand firm in our own quiet strengths—our thoughtfulness, our depth, our sensitivity—the need to be seen and affirmed by another softens. It doesn’t vanish, but it stops feeling like proof of worth.
Growth doesn’t mean becoming like Sarah, of course. Growth might mean celebrating the elegance of your own inner rhythm. And maybe, gently, allowing it to take up more space in your relationship—not with loudness, but with certainty.
You don’t need to abandon who you are to be loved well. You only need to stand where you are and decide that it’s enough.
Of course, that doesn’t mean Sam’s behavior hasn’t contributed to the discomfort—it’s possible that both are playing a role. But I wonder if anchoring more deeply in your own self-worth might ease some of the ache around being seen.
🤍 Anita
anita
ParticipantHi Alessa 😄❤️
Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m really glad the conversation has been meaningful for you—and your insights as both a parent and a seeker add such depth to the thread. I’m grateful for how you show up here.
And absolutely—if @Tommy feels drawn to this topic, he would be more than welcome to join in. His voice would be a valuable addition to what’s unfolding here.
With warmth and appreciation, Anita 🤍🤗
anita
ParticipantHi Everyone:
Alessa: “there is a huge level of trust in their caregiver… I believed my Mother and tried my hardest to be a good girl. I reviewed my mistakes each evening and tried to do better. I believed that if I did things perfectly, I wouldn’t be hurt. (Simply not true) But there was were always new things I was doing wrong. That intense trust in the caregiver and the lack of understanding.”-
Your words trace the heartbreaking logic of childhood: If I’m good enough, maybe the pain will stop. It begins with the child’s instinctive, total trust—a trust that is not earned, but biologically wired for survival. And when that trust is met with harm, the child doesn’t question the caregiver—they question themselves.
This trust is absolute—the child assumes the caregiver is right, even when the caregiver is harmful. When the caregiver is unpredictable or punitive, the child internalizes the message: “If I’m being treated this way, I must be bad.” The child then begins to monitor themselves obsessively, trying to be “good enough” to restore connection.
Unlike healthy shame, which helps us learn and grow, toxic shame is identity-based. It doesn’t say “I made a mistake,” it says “I am a mistake.” Over time, this erodes the child’s sense of self, leading to: low self-worth, perfectionism, emotional withdrawal, and difficulty forming healthy relationships.
The child psychology service. co. uk/ impact of shame: “Children traumatised by neglect and abuse… are hypersensitive to shame and unable to tolerate it… Abuse and neglect are shaming for babies and young children because, unable to understand the social world or the minds of other people, all they have is themselves. So when they, unconsciously, try to make sense of the parenting they receive the only person that can possibly be in control, and therefore responsible, is themselves. Therefore, babies can only interpret their experiences as their own fault…
“Babies do not have any concept of the idea that other people have minds that are different to their own. If they did they may able to understand that the responsibility for the treatment they receive is someone else’s.”
This article explains that children who experience neglect or abuse often carry a double burden when it comes to shame. First, they become highly sensitive to shame, and struggle to tolerate even small doses of it. Second, the way they behave—shaped by early survival instincts—is often misunderstood by adults, who use reward and punishment systems to try to “correct” them. These systems rely on shame to influence behavior, unintentionally piling more shame on top of the child’s original wounds.
When babies and young children are mistreated, they don’t yet understand that others have independent thoughts and responsibilities. They can only see the world from inside themselves. So when something painful happens, they believe it must be their fault. They unconsciously interpret the hurt they receive as proof of their own badness, absorbing shame before they even have the words for it. This early shame becomes a deep part of their identity.
As these children grow, they feel shame each time they fail to meet expectations. Adults often respond with correction, frustration, or discipline, which only confirms the child’s belief that they’re wrong or unworthy. This doesn’t help them change—it just deepens the idea that they’re inherently flawed. It’s a cycle that reinforces shame at every turn.
Psych central/ childhood toxic shame (very true to me): “Toxic shame is often accompanied by toxic guilt, where the person feels unjust responsibility and guilt. So the person not only feels ashamed, but also guilty for things they are not actually responsible for. They also feel responsible for other peoples emotions, and feel ashamed and guilty when other people are unhappy, especially if its in some way related to them.”
I further read that to heal toxic shame (so I read), the child (or adult they become) must:
* Reclaim the truth: “It wasn’t me. It was what was done to me.”
* Rebuild trust—not just in others, but in their own worth.
* Experience relationships where love is unconditional, and mistakes are met with compassion, not punishment.
Peter: “On the question of shame, I’ve found L.B. Smedes book ‘Shame and Grace’ one of the best I read on the subject…. I’ve been reading up on Sufism and they might speak of shame as something woven into the fabric of being human. ‘The heart must be polished until it reflects only the Beloved’. But the dust on the mirror, that too is part of the path. Even Shame, deserved and undeserved and ancient, can become a polish.-
A few quotes from the book (which I didn’t read): “We feel guilty for what we do. We feel shame for what we are.”,
“Shame is a very heavy feeling. It is a vague undefined heaviness that presses on our spirit, dampens our gratitude for the goodness of life, and diminishes our joy.”
“The cure for shame is not to try harder to be good. The cure is grace.”
“Grace is the gift of being accepted before we become acceptable.”
In Sufism (so I read), the Beloved is God—pure, radiant, and ever-present. The heart, in its raw form, is like a mirror, meant to reflect the divine, but it’s dulled by dust: ego, fear, desire, grief, shame. This dust isn’t a flaw. It’s part of the journey. The mirror isn’t broken—it’s waiting to be polished.
According to Sufi healers, shame arises when connection is broken—with self (when we feel we’ve betrayed our own values or worth), others (when we’re rejected, misunderstood, or harmed), or the Divine (when we feel unworthy of love or grace).
Shame is a signal, not a sentence. It tells us where connection has frayed. Vulnerability is the medicine. When we stop hiding, we begin healing. Surrender is the path. In admitting our brokenness, we open to grace.
Instead of covering shame with perfectionism or withdrawal, Sufis encourage us to name it, feel it, and offer it to the Divine. That act of surrender becomes a sacred intimacy—a moment where the heart, raw and exposed, is most receptive to Love.
This teaching doesn’t deny the pain of shame—it transforms it: The child who felt “bad” becomes the seeker who knows they are beloved. The wound becomes the place where the Light enters, as Rumi said. The mirror, once clouded, begins to shine—not despite the dust, but because it was polished by it.
Thank you Alessa and Peter for giving me this opportunity to understand better and address my lifelong toxic shame. I wish more people joined us here.
🤍 Anita
July 22, 2025 at 11:11 am in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #447842anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
Please don’t worry at all about delays—truly, whatever pace feels right for you is absolutely fine with me. I deeply value the connection that’s grown between us, and I’d love for you to feel free and safe to message whenever it suits you, whether that’s twice a week or once a month or only when your heart nudges you toward it.
I hear the weight you’re carrying right now, and I admire your strength in seeking to understand it more fully in therapy. Grief has its own strange rhythm, and it asks so much of us. Please be gentle with yourself.
If email feels more comfortable for you when sharing personal reflections, I welcome that wholeheartedly. Feel free to post your address whenever you’re ready, and I’ll be sure to write to you there. Just so you know—each morning when I sit at the computer, I tend to check and answer tiny buddha first before opening my email.
Warm hugs back to you—soft ones and sturdy ones. Looking forward to hearing from you in any form and any moment that feels right.
🤍 Anita
anita
ParticipantAnother stream of consciousness journaling:
It’s 7:08 pm and yet, no sound of birds. On the other hand, there’s a loud thunder sound every once in a while. I suppose the birds are settling in little safe areas, preparing for a storm.
It’s been hot and dry here for a long time, so long that the thunder sounded- to me- like a military bombing- it’s been too long since the last thunder. So, I forgot.
I just heard a bird. Refreshing cooler air through the open windows (7:43 pm).
8:32, no more thunders, birds are singing. Light outside. An airplane in a distance.
The hum of traffic in a distance.
Maybe there will be no storm, no rain (8:39 pm)
“Life Worth Living- what is it like?”- a life free of toxic shame, free of unbearable guilt.
A life where I stand tall, feeling confident, carrying myself- not with toxic shame and unbearable guilt- but with pride (not the biblical condemnable pride), shoulders back, head up.. on top of the world, not below.
How deep and pervasive the shame (the toxic shame kind).. doesn’t let me LIVE a LIFE WORTH LIVING- always something I’m doing wrong.. so the message goes. So many mistakes. Here’s another.. and another.. oh, how WRONG I .. am.. wrong again, am I?
Seems like the only way for me to not be Wrong, is.. to not be Alive.
My brain has been programmed from a very early age .. every step I take.. is the wrong, WRONG step.. Wrong me doing wrong, Wrong.
9:06 pm, a bit of darkness, cool air, no thunder.
To undo the programming, it takes courage, a leap of faith.
As in, I am not necessarily Wrong, not always Guilty?
My mother’s legacy in my life is that of Shame and Guilt, heavy duty, drilled-in.. over and over and over.. and over again.
9:12 pm, Mon.. birds are singing, bold and strong.. They give me hope.
9:22 pm, darker, no sounds of birds.
9:30 pm, almost completely dark. No bird sounds, It makes me sad.. Another goodbye from my best friends, the birds.
I so very, very.. very much want to let the shame and guilt pass and be gone.. for good.
Peter.. ?
9:40 pm, just a bit of light when I look to my right, otherwise.. totally dark.
I am aware of how pervasive, how dominant the message has been, the message my mother cared-so-MUCH to instill in me: that I am BAD and GUILTY.
How it took hold.
It’s almost completely dark now, 9:52 pm.
A light plane in the air. No thunders for a long time.
Will Ada, or Confused.. or Emma will ever post again..?
10 pm- now, completely dark.
Goodnight, dear birds.. hear you in the morning.
Anita
anita
ParticipantHi Everyone:
“My son accidentally kicked me in the face. I said “Ow, my nose is sore!” He came over and gave it a kiss.”- this is the most beautiful thing I read in quite sometime, Alessa 😊
I find beauty in your idea that moral shame, when welcomed like Buddhism suggests, can be less of a burden and more of a guide. Not something to punish ourselves with, but something that gently says, “You care. You want to do better.” And maybe that’s the heart of it—the capacity to care.
The book Healing the Shame That Binds You by John Bradshaw, along with other works on toxic shame, makes a clear and vital distinction between healthy shame and toxic shame. Healthy Shame acknowledges human limitations: It reminds us we’re not perfect, and that’s okay. It promotes humility and empathy: It helps us recognize when we’ve hurt others and motivates repair. It supports growth: It creates space for reflection, learning, and change. It is temporary and situational: It arises in response to specific actions, not as a judgment of the whole self. It encourages connection: It deepens relationships through vulnerability and accountability. Example: “I made a mistake, and I want to make it right.”
Toxic Shame, on the other hand, becomes an identity: It convinces us we are fundamentally flawed or unworthy. It freezes the nervous system: It leads to emotional paralysis, isolation, and despair. It distorts perception: It makes us see neutral or positive feedback as criticism. It is chronic and pervasive: It’s not about what we did—it’s about who we believe we are. It blocks healing: It prevents self-compassion and reinforces cycles of self-blame. Example: “I am a mistake. I don’t deserve love.”
Bradshaw describes toxic shame as the internalized voice that says “I am bad,” rather than “I did something wrong.” It’s the shame that binds, silences, and distorts. Healthy shame, by contrast, is a guide—it helps us live ethically, relate meaningfully, and stay grounded in our shared humanity.
So I read (the above). I intend to shift from toxic shame to healthy shame, than you, Alessa, for reminding me of this distinction and for the smile you brought to my face as I imagined your son giving your 👃 a 😘.
Warmly, Anita
anita
ParticipantIn regard to this one stream-of-consciousness journaling, I am asking for no replies. Also, trigger Warning.
S.H.A.M.E and G.U.I.T- two very, very difficult experiences. As I typed this sentence, just now, the thought “Death is preferable” occurred.
I remember thinking- I was either a teenager or in my very early 20s- “if I could have one day in my life where I don’t feel Guilty, my life would be worth living”-
It just occurred to me: the title of this thread is Life “Worth Living”.
G.U.I.L.T was so very, very heavy.
My mother (MFH) used to lay it heavy on me: hours of histrionic displays of how much (she claimed) I had hurt her, how I intended (she claimed) to hurt her.. showing me where, on her wrists, she would cut with a razor blade so to put an end to the suffering (she claimed) I caused her.. because I was (.. she claimed) evil.
After each such histrionic display, she would calm down.. until the next time she found it necessary to.. once again, and again, and again… and again, let me know (just in case I managed to forget..) that indeed, I was the cause of her suffering.
I didn’t deserve that guilt.
But later in life, I have done wrong to others.. But already so immersed in guilt, I couldn’t tell the difference between valid, o justified guilt and the other kind- the kind that my mother imposed on me.
And S.H.A.M.E took hold- the feeling that I am a freak, an inexcusable creature of wrongness.. one taking space but shouldn’t. Being some kind of inexcusable otherness.. not worthy of togetherness.
To please my mother meant to erase myself. To erase that B.A.D.
These complex experiences of G.U.I.L.T and S.H.A.M.E dominated my life.. a life that felt like.. not “Worth Living”.
To re-enter The Garden of Eden (referring to my recent post to Peter)- Guilt and Shame cannot be left behind. They are parts of me.
But these parts- instead of continuing to weigh me down- are parts that I can carry with courage, like a hero.
I want my life to no longer be about self-erasure, the bely-up reaction to aggression, or potential aggression. I want C.O.U.R.A.G.E to be the theme of my life, a courage that will make the re-entry into Eden possible.
I have done wrong to people.. some of my guilt is valid. I have done wrong. And it’d be very difficult to no longer do no-wrong to anyone.. ever.
But my focus can shift from F.E.A.R of being bad to C.O.U.R.A.G.E- the confidence that.. as faulty and damaged as I have been, I can be something else now, something different- a person I am no longer ashamed of.. a person I am proud of (not in the biblical sinful kind of pride).
From my best efforts to erase myself, to people-please to => living a life “Worth Living”- one where I AM- not something to hide, but something to BE, to EXPRESS.
And in all that, to focus on the Sacred: love, compassion.
Anita
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