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anitaParticipantI can re-join humanity, once I un-join my mother.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
It’s 7:08 pm here (west coast), and good to read (!) that you cancelled her flights for the trip, and having a friend (a real friend) replace her.
“This time I’m staying strong and doing what needs to be done“- this is Strong You!
I am well, thank you, and I feel better for reading/ feeling your strength!
May the Force be with you! (a Star Wars saying).
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
It’s mind boggling to me, the truth of it, the reality of it: that I invested all of me, for half a century, in a project (my mother’s love) that was 100% a failure project, as she was blind and deaf to me. Looking back, there was 0% chance of her hearing or seeing me. When I say zero, I am not exaggerating. It was- is- zero chance for me to be heard or seen by my mother.
She just couldn’t, didn’t have it in her, the ability to see/ hear me.
That was/ is Fact. Always has been, since the day I was brought into the world.
So, I .. shake off me 1/2 a century of a wasted life.. a misunderstanding, on my part.
Notice, it’s been a waste of half a century (for crying out loud!) of my life, not because of war or a natural disaster, but because my mother couldn’t, wouldn’t see me/ hear me/ acknowledge that I Am Here, in this world.
To be continued-‘
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
June 2: ” We were set to leave for a vacation in a couple days. It won’t be easy but I’m still going WITHOUT her. I’ve asked her to be out by the time I get back.“- you are set to leave for a vacation tomorrow, June 4. Two days ago, you told her that you will be going on vacation without her, and that she should be out by the time you are back. It is possible that by this time, 21 hours after you posted, she talked you into leaving on vacation with her… And that she will not be out of your house by the time you (and her) return from vacation.
It’s possible because of (1) your anxious attachment style and codependency, (2) she has no money/ credit to rent her own place and no one to take her in, (3) it’s been a pattern: “I know it has to end, but I’m so emotional and… I don’t want to live without her (and daughter) in my life. One day I’m crying all day and the next day I’m OK boxing up more things” (April 28).
You wanted to help and rescue another damsel in distress, didn’t you? (“most of my relationships and most women I have had relationships with have been ‘broken’ and in need of ‘fixing’“), thinking that if you provide for her a stable home, rent/ expense free, following her chaotic childhood (“she was moving around house to house, state to state…“), she’d appreciate you and the stability you offer her, and treat you with the love and respect forevermore..?
Problem is that when you met her, she was 34, not the child that she was 20-30 earlier. You met a woman with established mental-emotional and behavioral habits that are not congruent with a stable relationship. The chaotic events of her childhood transferred to chaos in her mind, heart and relationships.
“”I’ve been Mr. nice guy and have always put her needs above mine, this is what I needed to finally get it thru my thick scull that I deserve so much more and need to find someone that actually WANTS to be with me. I’m MAD and SAD, probably more mad at myself for being a doormat and always believing her“- please be kind to the anxious and codependent part of you, make your mental-emotional health your No 1 priority.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
I hope that you are okay, that you are strong in this difficult time. I have to go out and about earlier tan planned, therefore, I will submit a post for you in about 6 hours or so.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
This is what you shared about EN, summarized: you met her through a dating app in Sept 2023, met her in-person two times only, and communicated long-distance almost everyday for 4 months, until Dec 2023, when she told you that it’s best to stop talking because of the distance and the timing, and a few days later, she told you that she met someone else. At one point, she offered to stay friends with you, but you declined, saying that if you want to be friends, you will reach out to her. You reached out to her at the end of March, or very early April 2024, and her response: “she isn’t looking forward to a friendship, saying her new boyfriend may feel uncomfortable.”
About your feelings for her, you shared (the boldfaced are your words) that communicating almost everyday with her over the course of 4 months was nice and fun, you started to fall for her, you felt that your feelings for her were reciprocated, you miss that connection with her, feeling a strong pure bond to her, and that on one hand, your feelings for her scare you, and on the other, thinking about her makes you smile a lot. And last thing you added in your most recent pot is: “I was never attached to EN“.
This is what you shared about SS: you met her in Feb 2024, she is nice and sweet and she’s smart too, but you don’t want to through your attachment issues, and focus on your goals instead. You are thinking about breaking up with her because you don’t feel such a strong connection with her, you miss EN a lot, and want a connection like you had with EN. You added, in your most recent post: “And I think besides feelings I’m starting to get attached to SS which I’m not keen of“.
Back in Jan 30 (page 1) I added online quotes about the avoidant attachment style, including what you shared about another young woman, SK: “It was a very passionate and lovely relationship… I was really attracted to her”, “I broke up with her.. got into FWB… I again pulled myself away. I did this push and pull a lot with her“.
In your Jan 30- 31 replies, you wrote: “I agree with the fearful avoidant attachment style… Even now when I think someone will love me, I will end up pushing them away. I’m scared of that deep commitment… I regret a lot not accepting her love… My emotions were always numbed with SK. I refused to say I love you to her many times, I was scared, I (have) burst out with anger sometimes too… I was never emotionally dependent on anyone since I was young“.
Normally, I’d follow the above with my analysis, but this time, I would like you to sit with the above for a while and come up with your own, thoughtful analysis over time of calm contemplation.
I find these sentences in your post of seven hours ago most interesting: “I think besides feelings I’m starting to get attached to SS which I’m not keen of. I was never attached to EN.“- I would very much like to read your analysis including what these two sentences mean.
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
Loyalty Unrewarded, a title of a book I will never author.
Loyalty Never Rewarded, never to be rewarded. Loyalty that was never acknowledged, never to be acknowledged.
Never Noticed.
A better title: Loyalty Unnoticed.
Better title: Love Unnoticed.
I hated people because of loyalty to her-
My whole life, hating people she hated-
But no noticing AT ALL by the person I have been decades-long Loyal to-
I was left Alone by the person I tried to be a part of
Alone hating all the people she hated-
Alone all the way around-
Alone
Simply Alone
Love for her never reciprocated, never noticed
The essence of me (love for my mother) never noticed-
Not even Noticed?
Just like that, dismissed, ignored?
Why is it a surprise- I mean, she said: “you are nothing, a big zero”-
She said it, but I didn’t believe her, didn’t believe her words
And tried, again and again to make her love the “big zero”
No, believe her
Let go, let go of loyalty to her.
-To be continued.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
“I’ve asked her to be out by the time I get back“- this is the best part of your latest post. I hope that she will be out by the time you are back from vacation! I’ll write more Mon morning (it’s Sun evening here)
anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
“What are your thoughts on this Anita?“- I may have more thoughts Mon morning (it’s Sun early afternoon here), but for now, I am thinking that maybe your strong emotional connection to EN has to do with the fact that she is unavailable (she told you that she has a boyfriend), so it feels safe to long for someone unavailable. On the other hand, SS seems available, and it is scary to be in a real, ongoing relationship. You can let me know your thoughts about this, and I will return to you tomorrow morning.
anita
June 2, 2024 at 12:29 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433381
anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
“But what do you love about… me specifically apart from others… I don’t feel seen… I am not sure he sees what makes me special… I often rely on others to see myself… About soulmates, I think this feeling of them turning on a light in a dark room so that I can see myself… My craving to be seen is very intense… I am alone in a dark room… I analyze all the relationships in my life, extensively. Out of wonder of why they aren’t understanding what I am saying…I grew up surrounded, and am now realizing am currently still surrounded by people with closed third eyes, they do not see beyond very basic needs/ perspectives. My friend P… Just as N… And just like my roommate… I have been around so many people who have challenged my third eye… If I have OCD about anything, it is the fact I want to be as self aware as possible. I fear a lack of it. I also doubt my ability to be self aware so I open up to people who might help me see” (July 29, 2023- May 29, 2024)
I read that sometime during the 2nd year of life, a child (boy or girl), for the first time in her life, recognizes herself in the mirror, and that is the beginning of self-awareness: that’s me in the mirror! (Apart from others!)
Your self-awareness started a long time ago (you do recognize yourself in the mirror). But when your father demanded that you see him, he significantly disrupted the further and farther development of your self-awareness, and you found yourself in the dark, craving light, and depending on friends, boyfriends, others, to turn on the light for you, so that you can see you.
It didn’t work, I believe, because it takes a qualified psychotherapist, within a professional therapeutic context, to help a person whose mental- emotional development was significantly disrupted in childhood (to help long-term, that is, beyond feeling better for just a sort while).
My mental- emotional development, as far as self-awareness (and others-awareness), was severely disrupted in childhood, causing me lots of mental suffering and dependence on.. strangers to help me, strangers who failed me. I was indeed in the dark, aimless, long-term direction, and often, not even a short-term direction; time and resources diffused and wasted. My first quality psychotherapist of 2011-13 was not perfect, but the best I ever had. It started me turning the light on, again and again, and overall, there’s been a significant, long-term Luminance Enhancement in my life (LE, just felt like coming up with an acronym, so I did just because I felt like it, lol).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Laven:
“I feel like he genuinely thinks I’m beneath him and that he was doing me a favor by dating me… I think that he genuinely feels like I’m beneath him“- even if he thinks that you are beneath him.. even if you think that you are beneath him, the truth is that you are NOT beneath him; that he is NOT above you.
You, Laven, are not beneath him; he is not above you.
anita
May 31, 2024 at 4:02 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433366
anitaParticipantI am thinking about you, Seaturtle, hoping that you are okay, and wishing you peace of mind, and love in your heart.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
When you chose to not journal, you didn’t do anything wrong, you weren’t rude to me. So, there is no reason for you to apologize to me.
In my last post to you, when I wrote that you are welcomed to accept or reject any suggestion I make to you, and that I am fine in either case, I meant it.
It wasn’t rude of you to not journal; it would have been rude of me if I insisted that you journal, or guilt-tripped you into it, or any such thing.
I am explaining and stressing this because it is important, that as you are.. going through life, that you don’t go through life guiltily, feeling guilty for making choices that you have the right to make.
(Personally, I used to feel so guilty about so many things that I was not guilty of..)
anita
anitaParticipantYou are welcome, Simon. Good to read back from you. Take all the time that you need to reply further (no rushing..).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Simon:
“I’m in a pretty poor state of mind currently completely burnt out with stress from every corner of my life (May 30, 2024)”- as I re-read this sentence today, I thought to myself that you may be too stressed and burned out to read the post that I submitted to you back in Oct 2, 2023.
Here is a summary of that post, a summary of what you shared back in Feb 2022: you were close to 50 years old, married and a father of five (3 different mothers), owning your own home and your own business (a very busy cafe where you were the chef), but you have been depressed and feeling lonely for more than 30 years. You shared that if one was to see you, one would see a “successful father, husband, good guy“, but it was a false image, and you didn’t know how “to keep the pretense going“.
“My wife tells me I behave awfully as I swear at her and belittle her at work. I really don’t mean to, I have mental health issues, and I am so worried our business will fail. I feel I am… the one holding it all together. I worry so much I lash out with (words) and everyone suffers… I feel so bad about my behaviour, but it’s like I have Tourette’s with the insults, it happens so fast. I have obsessive compulsive personality disorder for which I am taking medication, and receiving therapy. I don’t see it absolves me at all, the fear of losing control is so overwhelming I abuse everyone I hate myself”.
You shared that you noticed that you were troubled around 18 years of age (more than 30 years ago) when you had your first serious girlfriend: you didn’t trust her, but the relationship ended- not because of her infidelity- but because of yours. You shared about your parents’ breakup, that it was due to your mother’s infidelity. You remember “extreme shouting and swearing” between your parents, which “sounded pretty violent“. They were out a lot at nights, and extended family members looked after you and your siblings.
You shared that you rushed into every situation in your life (“I rushed into every situation that I have found myself in“) with massive consequences to yourself and to others, such that you feel very guilty about. The reason you rushed: “To not be alone… I’m just too afraid to be alone“, that you were afraid to be left alone since you were a child: “lying in bed next to my sister as a child in the dark, wanting someone to talk to. That’s been the story of my life“. I asked you at the time, if you had someone to talk to, what would you say, and you answered: “I’d say please don’t leave me“.
Fast forward 2 years and 3 months, you shared yesterday that you are “in a pretty poor state of mind“, “burnt out with stress from every corner of my life. Business, relationship, finances, a completely spent force running on less than fumes”.
You ended your short original post yesterday with: “I have lived a very full on life since I was 18 years old with lots of life’s experiences I seem to have had everything I wished for and lived all of my dreams… I need to change my habits… Maybe you’d all have some ideas for me.“-
– Yes, I have an idea for you: just like you said yesterday (the quote right above), you need to change some of your habits, particularly The Rushing Habit. You need to slow down the emotions rushing through you, the thoughts rushing through your mind, the words rushing through your mouth.
You wrote yesterday that you lived “a very full life“- your life has been full with activity and with some business and financial success, but it’s also been very full with rushing and stress. You wrote yesterday that you seem to have had everything you wished for, that you lived all your dreams, but seems to me that your wish for and dream of a quiet mind and heart is yet to be had.
I am adding below about different religions’ input about rushing, stress and peace of mind for your sake, Simon, for mine, and for anyone who tends to rush, and may be reading this (if because of the copying and pasting, the following will be full of excess print, I will re-submit it for clarity):
faith up. com/ what does the bible say about rushing: “Rushing through life is something many of us can relate to. We live in a fast-paced world where everything seems urgent, but what does the Bible say about always being in a hurry? Let’s dive into Scripture to find some answers. One key verse that speaks to the issue of rushing is Proverbs 19:2 (NIV), which warns us, ‘Desire without knowledge is not good—how much more will hasty feet miss the way!’ This proverb tells us that moving too quickly, without proper knowledge or preparation, can lead us astray. It’s a clear caution against the dangers of rushing through decisions or actions without thoughtful consideration. Similarly, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 reminds us there is ‘a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens.’ This passage encourages us to recognize the importance of timing. There’s a time to move quickly, yes, but there’s also a time to slow down and reflect”.
(ihsan alexander. com/ hadith haste is from shaytan: “When we live lives of haste and rush, we increase the stress burden upon our psyches and also upon our bodies. This then results in both psychological as well as physical imbalances and diseases. Yet when we learn to live from a place of calm and presence, we increase the level of peace, harmony and tranquility we experience in our lives. Consequently, our health becomes more vibrant and vital, we actually become more successful and effective as a result of a clear and focused mind, and even our personal relationships improve and attain greater levels of health and wellbeing. Calm is from God, and haste is from Shaytan— Prophet Muhammad…
“The Divine Presence of God can only be experienced through deep inner stillness and surrender. When we live in a state of haste and rush, we further disconnect ourselves from the Divine Presence of our Lord and Sustainer, and so we become disconnected from Peace, Light, Love, Abundance and Joy”.
medium. com/ why I am not in a hurry and you shouldn’t be either: “In today’s fast-paced world, you often find yourself in a hurry in the hope of achieving quick results… Have you noticed how less of a human you are when you are in a rush? How you could flip off another driver in traffic? How you could brush off your mom on the call? Or snub at your son with the words, ‘Not now, Daddy is in a hurry.’…
“Being in a hurry is not solely a visible action. It is an internal state that comes from the human desire to speed up time in the hope of achieving the result faster. We may also say, it is an internal aggression toward time. In Buddhism, being in a hurry is generally seen as a state of mind that arises from attachment, craving, and a lack of mindfulness. Buddhism teaches that hastiness leads to suffering and a loss of presence in the present moment… People who speed up time drastically lower their energy levels and start getting chronic fatigue and sick… (causing) accelerated aging…
“A rushing person never controls the situation... the one who rushes is the one who is late. Now after reading all the above, you are probably thinking, ok great what shall I do?! “Smile, breathe, and go slowly.” ~Thich Nhat Hanh. The truth is if you stop rushing, you are far more likely (to) do everything on time! Yep, that’s a contradiction. Rushing and being late are two sides of the same coin. You can’t have one without the other… You must let go of rushing, internally as well as externally. It’s as much a mindset as a behavior that you are letting go of”.
– End of Quotes from online sources.
anita
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