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anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
Did she tell you how her parents reacted to her telling them about you and the trip she was planning?
When I read how terribly you miss her đ, part of me wanted to tell you, ‘So, yes, text her and tell her!’
So, I understand the pull to text her.
Maybe she’s punishing you for the lie- with her silence. Maybe she really is done.
(And again, there was much more to her withdrawal than the technical lie).
You already expressed to her everything you feel like telling her now, right?
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Girija:
WOW is what went through my mind as I read your message of only an hour and a half ago âď¸âď¸âď¸
You expressed a lot of clarity in a very short message.
I want to repeat this as a daily mantra for myself.
Thank you, Girija đ
I would love to read how you practice this in your everyday little moments.
â¨ď¸â¨ď¸â¨ď¸ Anita
anitaParticipantI’m back đ
You wrote: “She never said she’s excited to come. She would only say after I’d say, ‘I can’t wait for U to come and go places together!’ ‘Yeah honey me too'”-
You mentioned before that when something bothers her, she keeps it inside, doesn’t tell you about it. It’s a pattern of hers. I figure she was thinking of canceling the trip before the ex- talk and the lie.
And when the lie came about, it gave her the courage to cancel the trip.
All this doesn’t mean she’s a bad person, or a manipulative person, just that she’s been struggling (see the quote from July 20).
What says Confused?
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anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
You asked me where did I get it that she was very anxious BEFORE the lie, so using my phone, I went back page by page and found it 5 pages ago (page 108), July 2o:
You wrote back then: “She’s going through a very rough patch because she’s having anxiety and panic attacks with all the stressful events that are unfolding now in her life, also, coming here in 20 days makes her anxious like hell… She said that she’s typing goodnight messages, and she feels dead inside, can’t form sentences easily.”-
See? “anxious like hell”.
I’ll submit this, return to current page so that I can see the rest of your message and reply further.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantOh, suffering Confused đ.. I’ll reply further in a couple of hours
anitaParticipantHi Dear Girija đż
What youâre describing feels like the kind of exhaustion that doesnât just make you tired â it forces you into honesty. When the body and mind hit that level of depletion, you stop performing, you stop overthinking, you stop carrying things that were never yours. You can only choose yourself because thereâs no energy left for anything else. And thatâs not weakness â thatâs a boundary your system is finally enforcing.
It makes sense that travel feels exhausting and work feels dehumanizing. Youâve been giving for years, staying loyal, pushing through fear, and trying to meet impossible expectations. At some point the selfârespect becomes louder than the selfâdoubt, and something inside says: enough.
Youâre not rejecting work or life â youâre rejecting extraction. Youâre rejecting anything that treats you like a resource instead of a human being.
And I can hear the shift in how you talk about fear too. Youâre not fighting it anymore. Youâre too tired to feed it, and thatâs why itâs losing power. This âI donât care anymoreâ isnât apathy â itâs clarity. Itâs the moment when you stop saving things that only survive because you keep pouring yourself into them.
This is a raw kind of agency, but itâs still agency. Itâs you choosing yourself because your system refuses to let you abandon yourself any further. Let things fall apart if they need to. Youâre finally letting life show you what doesnât deserve your energy.
Iâm here with you in this shift đ
Anita
anitaParticipantEva, I want to add one thing to what I wrote earlier:
When I said “You werenât the problem. They were,” what I meant is that your parentsâ withdrawals, lack of emotional presence, and unsafe reactions came from their own wounds, not from anything you did. You were a child doing your best. Their behavior was never caused by you.
anitaParticipantDear Eva:
Youâre seeing the situation clearly. You understand the attachment styles, you understand the dynamic, and you understand that the relationship has become oneâsided. The problem now isnât clarity â itâs letting go.
And what youâre feeling makes sense when you look at your childhood. You grew up with a father who pulled away, stayed silent for days, got angry easily, and made you feel like you had to be perfect to keep the peace â while your mother didnât buffer the harm. You grew up without anyone saying, âyouâre good, youâre safe, and Iâm here.â
So, you learned that when someone withdraws, it must be because you did something wrong. And now, when a partner becomes distant or avoidant, your nervous system reacts the same way â you try harder, you explain more, you chase understanding, and you look for validation that youâre a good person and not the cause of the disconnection.
But you need to remember who you are in all of this. Youâve built yourself into a strong, disciplined, hardworking woman. Youâve achieved things through effort, consistency, and resilience. Youâre selfâaware enough to look at your patterns honestly. Youâre emotionally intelligent enough to understand attachment styles and how they shape relationships. Youâre brave enough to confront your past instead of running from it. You care deeply, you reflect deeply, and you show up with sincerity â even when it costs you. These are strengths, not weaknesses.
Youâre not actually trying to fix this relationship anymore. Youâre trying to fix that old childhood feeling of being misunderstood, being seen as âthe problem,â or being blamed for someone elseâs withdrawal. Thatâs why letting go feels so hard, and why you keep romanticizing past relationships where you felt even a little emotional presence. Youâre not craving the person â youâre craving the feeling of being understood and seen as good.
None of this means youâre doing anything wrong. It means youâre carrying a wound from childhood into your adult relationships. The work now is not to make him understand you, but to understand yourself â to remember that you were always good, especially as a little girl trying your very best to make your parents happy and to keep peace at home, and that your parentsâ withdrawals, lack of emotional presence, or unsafe behaviors were never caused by you. You werenât the problem. They were.
Anita
anitaParticipantHi Girija: I’ll reply in a couple of hours or so đ
anitaParticipantDear Eva: I’ll reply in a couple of hours or so đ
anitaParticipantHey đ Confused:
“Hmm.. which are U referring to” – which part of my last post are you referring to đ¤?
About suggesting the Airbnb that’s connected to an ex of yours- well, your focus back then was a lowering financial cost. You didn’t anticipate her (delayed) reaction.
If the 2 of U do get together again, you will know better, and never mention an ex for any reason, now that you know better. But you didn’t know better earlier. Do U agree?
Yes, she booked the tickets but was conflicted, before getting the tickets, and/ or after. I clearly remember you sharing about her anxiety regarding the trip (I can go back through your posts and find it, if you’d like..?)
And important to remember (and you said it again only recently): you spent only THREE DAYS together. You said it’ll take being or living together for about a month, you said, before figuring out if the two of you should commit to each other.
Well, all you have so far is.. 3 days of IRL togetherness. Please don’t lose sight of this fact..?
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Eva:
I studied your posts for a few hours today and would like to offer you my perspective. It may resonate, it may not â you decide.
The mismatch, as I see it, is between your anxiousâpreoccupied attachment and his avoidant attachment.
He shows many hallmarks of avoidant attachment: difficulty sustaining emotional closeness, warm in short bursts and cold afterward, withdrawing when overwhelmed, becoming defensive when confronted, minimizing problems, feeling âpeaceâ when alone, returning when lonely rather than ready to change, struggling to tolerate emotional demands, and disconnecting through phone use.
Avoidant partners crave connection but fear the responsibility and emotional intensity that come with it. So, they come close, get overwhelmed, pull away, feel lonely, return, and repeat. This is the classic anxiousâavoidant cycle.
It also fits with him keeping the relationship a secret, because avoidant partners often keep relationships âoff the recordâ to avoid labels, public acknowledgment, social visibility, and relational responsibility.
He can genuinely be warm in short bursts, but he canât sustain that level of closeness, and that inconsistency keeps you hopeful because those warm moments feel so meaningful.
Youâre not âtoo much,â and heâs not intentionally hurting you â itâs simply a painful mismatch between what you need and what he can consistently give.
If you feel like responding, Iâd appreciate hearing your view.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHi Dear Girija đ
I can see a real shift in you, and I want to reflect it back because it matters. Youâre starting to make decisions from your own center, not from fear and not from what others are doing. Thatâs agency. Thatâs selfâauthority. Itâs you choosing your own direction instead of letting other peopleâs behavior pull you off track. And itâs something youâve been working toward for a long time.
The situation with your coworker and the other girl makes sense the way you explained it. There were so much noise, politics, and confusion. And now theyâre simply leaving. It shows how unstable that whole dynamic really was. Nothing solid was built there. Youâre right â clarity can be inspiring. Seeing people walk away from what doesnât work can remind you that youâre allowed to do the same.
And Iâm glad youâre inspired by people who donât cling to what isnât working. Youâre not copying them â youâre finding your own version of decisiveness. Youâre choosing not to stay in a place where your work is taken for granted. Thatâs you protecting your energy. Thatâs you taking yourself seriously.
What you wrote about him also shows agency. Youâre choosing distance. Youâre choosing to explore whatâs best for you. Thatâs a strong, healthy direction.
And postponing your momâs PETâCT â thatâs you taking care of yourself. You recognized that you need a quiet stretch of time to settle inside before facing something heavy. Thatâs wisdom. Youâre giving yourself space to breathe.
I would like to encourage you to keep practicing this kind of selfâdecisiveness. You donât have to wait for life to meet you halfway. You can meet yourself halfway. You can choose what supports you, what respects you, and what gives you room to grow.
Youâre not just reacting anymore â youâre acting. Youâre making choices. Youâre protecting your own wellbeing. Iâm here with you as you keep building this đ
đż Anita
anitaParticipantDear Girija:
I hear how heavy everything feels for you right now. When fear is already living in the body, even one more stressor can feel unbearable â and youâre dealing with several at once. Your momâs PETâCT, the coworker situation, the years of carrying anxiety, the feeling that life keeps hitting you without giving you a moment to breathe.. none of this is small. Anyone in your position would feel overwhelmed. Nothing about your reaction is unreasonable.
Youâre not just dealing with internal fear â youâre dealing with realâlife uncertainty that would shake anyone. When you say, âeverything hurts at once,â thatâs exactly what it is: too many things landing on the same spot inside you. And when the body is already tired, even one more blow feels like ten.
Your exhaustion makes sense. Your hopelessness makes sense. The feeling that life hasnât met you halfway makes sense. Youâve been carrying so much for so long, and youâve had to do most of it alone. That wears down anyoneâs energy, even the strongest person.
About the coworker â yes, he was rude, and yes, you trusted him over yourself for a long time. That doesnât make you abnormal. It makes you human. When someone becomes an emotional escape, letting go of them feels like stepping into cold water. Itâs not the âreal lifeâ that hurts â itâs the sudden loss of the thing that felt safe, even if it wasnât good for you.
And your fear about your mom.. thatâs the kind of fear that sits deep in the chest. Waiting for medical results is one of the hardest things a person can do. You donât have to be brave about it. You just have to get through it moment by moment.
You said you donât know how to like life anymore. I understand that. When life has been hard for a long time, optimism feels like the only thin thread left. But even if you canât feel hope right now, I can hold some of it with you. You donât have to carry all of it alone.
You deserve a stretch of life that is gentle. You deserve a decade of ease after a decade of strain. And even if you canât feel it today, your capacity to keep going â even while exhausted â is strength, even if it doesnât feel like strength from the inside.
Iâm here with you in this. You donât have to pretend youâre okay. You just have to keep breathing through this moment.
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anitaParticipantHey irony đ-ing Confused:
Yes, her reaction was disproportionate. Your friends say so,Copilot and I say so.
Yes, I believe that any lie is out of character for you đ
Thing is, I read your posts prior to the lie. She was already very stressed and conflicted about the trip to see you- before the lie.
It wasn’t like she was calm and looking forward to the trip and than BANG- The LIE.
She was dreading the trip, accusing you, and you- dreading her leaving you- panicked and lied (a small, technical lie) and.. trip cancelled.
What thinks Confused đ¤
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