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  • in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460263
    anita
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    Hey.. Confused:

    I see how much you’re hurting, and it makes me 🙁

    “But that still doesn’t make sense because when u lose feelings for someone u are relieved to break up… If I had lost feelings, I wouldn’t feel anything… I wouldn’t be crying my guts out for months on end”-

    If you permanently lost feelings, it’d make sense that you’d be relieved to break up, would never feel anything for her and wouldn’t cry your guts out for months on end.

    But you only temporarily lost feelings.

    “And it felt so amazing when I was holding her/kissing her in December”-

    There were amazing moments during the visit, but on the whole, it was not an amazing visit. There were lots of doubts, distance and disconnection on both sides.

    This is what you said about the visit back on Dec 21:

    “The visit went okay, it was our first time meeting, I stayed for 3 days, and she knew what was happening inside my head, so she was also distant/disconnected… I liked her in person and my body responded very well to us kissing and cuddling (even tho my mind was constantly doubting everything). Took her a lot of time opening up and even touching me tho. The first 2 days she was keeping her distance which I respected (because she needs to develop a sense of trust and security before getting intimate, especially after I planted many doubts in her head).”

    Back to today: “Idk anita, is it 50%? This girl truly loved me… It hurts so much when u push a good person away.”- you place her love on a pedestal, seeing it as perfect at all times (100%)?”-

    I think that the 2 of U are good people and neither one of you is perfect (100%). (I would like to think of myself in the same way).

    “It’s so hard every day without her, I wake up hoping I’ll get a message or something. She’s always in my mind no matter what I’m doing, and I still feel like sharing my every day with her… I doubt life will get any better for me anytime soon 🙁”-

    I think that one way for life to feel better for you is to let go of the ideas that (1) what you lost was perfect love, on either side, and that (2) you carry the sole responsibility for the breakup.

    I would like to read from you anytime you feel like talking to me.

    🌿 Anita

    anita
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    Hi Nea:

    It makes me happy (I’m smiling now) to read that what I shared helped you think through, and truly, I have no problem at all with revisiting my past and sharing more. I will do so tomorrow morning (it’s getting close to midnight here).

    “I don’t think it’s fair for me to keep asking my husband to be the one extending himself.”- I fully agree.

    I’ll write more tomorrow.

    🌿 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460005
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    Hey Confused: I just noticed your sarcasm (or is it irony, I confuse the two) in your “and look at me now, how well I did 🙂”-

    Confused is taking more responsibility than what belongs to you. How about 50% instead of 100%?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460004
    anita
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    Hey Dear Confused:

    I’m trying to make Confused less confused 🙂

    You mentioned many times how you didn’t lose feelings only in the context of her in your life, but in the context of everyone and everything in your life. What I’m pointing to is that if she was life itself for you, if she- or what she represented to you- meant everything, no wonder you lost feeling for everything else.

    Or.. am I confused?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460002
    anita
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    Not going anywhere with this, was hoping you go somewhere with this..

    She meant everything to you before Nov? Maybe not?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460000
    anita
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    Hey Dear Confused:

    “If it (the depression/ annhedonia) was related only to her, I would be fine”-

    But if she meant EVERYTHING to you, if you were so very invested in her (or in the idea of her) so intensely, so overwhelmingly, is it a wonder that the depression/ annhedonia spread to EVERY part of your life?

    🤔 Anita

    anita
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    Hi again, Nea:

    I want to clarify what I meant when I wrote that my mother’s affection was tied to my compliance.

    I didn’t mean that she wanted me to comply to behaving in ways that are respectful to other people/ to my elders, or to obeying instructions such as help with cleaning the home and such.

    I mean she wanted me to submit to her power for no other reason than that it made her feel better to exert power over me and see me controlled, subdued and self-erasing.

    It made her feel temporarily powerful ( and that felt good!). I say temporarily, because she needed to assert her power- at my expense- again and again.

    So, her love for me, in practice, was love for how my submission and self-erasure made her feel.

    I can share more, but I don’t want to maybe overwhelm you. I shared what I did so to explain the “how and why” behind my mother’s behavior,

    Thinking that maybe it might help you just a bit in the struggle you mentioned: “Another part of me is still struggling to truly understand the why and how behind (your father’s behaviours)”.

    I understand, of course, that your father and my mother are not the same person and that my childhood experience is not the same as yours. Yet certain patterns and human motivation are quite the same across the world from the beginning of times.

    🌿 Anita

    anita
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    Hi Nea:

    I just want to say how much I appreciate the empathy, grace, and emotional maturity in your message. You’re holding such a complicated truth with so much clarity — seeing your father’s harmful patterns while still acknowledging the love you feel. That takes strength.

    When you wrote, “I find myself wondering how someone can love their family and yet behave in ways that hurt them,” it struck me deeply. I asked myself that same question for years.

    For a long time, I held onto a loving image of my mother because the real version of her was too frightening to face. Over time, my understanding shifted. I realized she had moments of affection, but they were tied to my compliance — not to seeing me as a separate person with my own worth. When she sensed even small signs of independence, she became aggressive and hurtful again.

    It took me a long time to understand that love mixed with harm is not the kind of love that nurtures a child. And it took even longer to let myself see that clearly.

    I’ll write more soon, but I wanted to share this part with you now.

    Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #459987
    anita
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    Good Monday morning, Confused 🙂

    Yes, your motivation changed since Nov, your doubts and shutdowns started then, as well as a general loss of pleasure. It happened before your irl visit with her on Dec.

    Fast forward 8 months, and she experienced something similar this July- Aug, before the scheduled Aug irl visit with you, which would have been the 2nd visit.

    Do you agree with what I wrote above?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: Permission to feel optimistic #459986
    anita
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    Good morning, Girija 🙂

    The coworker we’ve been talking about- with his “powerful words and actions” (your words about him earlier)- was your hope for a savior?

    I’m reminded of the 1981 book “The Cinderalla Complex”, it’s about the hope and fantasy of many, many women to be rescued by a man, to be like Cinderalla who was rescued from her hopeless life with her evil stepmother by a prince.

    Although many more women work and earn a good income since 1981, the fantasy is alive and well, particularly when it comes to more traditional societies and anxious women who grew up without emotional safety.

    There are approaches in different therapies that target this very fantasy, teaching women to develop a “secure base” within, or develop a secure adult self/ a capable “inner parent” to take care of the anxious “inner child”.

    But none of it is easy, of course, for a girl who grew up without a secure base, or a capable parent 😔.

    I didn’t even know Medium exists, or if I came across the word before, I forgot. I may look into it. Thank you for mentioning it.

    How are you feeling today/ this evening?

    🌿 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #459974
    anita
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    Hey 🙂Confused:

    Good.. good to read from you this Sun night (here), and to see another “haha”, whether genuine or ironic. Will B back 2 U in the morning.

    😴💤🌙💤 Anita

    in reply to: Permission to feel optimistic #459973
    anita
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    Hi again, Girija:

    “Last night I had an incredible realisation that I really got to live… It was a life in and of itself… It was amazing too.”- I wish you could tell me more about that Life‑In‑And‑Of‑Itself. How did it feel all that time?

    “I don’t know if needing that sense of belonging all the time is good for me… I honestly think I don’t know how to live life… it’s a dull contrast to what I had with him and the previous team.”-

    Losing two places where you felt connected would make anyone question belonging, direction, and how life is supposed to feel. Wanting belonging is human. And the contrast you’re describing… I can imagine how sharp it must feel.

    … I just saw your most recent message. I’ll reply more fully in the morning (it’s Sunday, after 10 pm here), but for now, this part stayed with me:

    “My pretenses – pretending I don’t want a saviour to swoop in, make my life feel good and make me less aware.”-

    Girija… that’s such honest writing. Naming that wish takes courage. Wanting someone who brings ease, comfort, and a break from emotional intensity is such a human thing. You put it into words beautifully.

    I spent so many, many hours (as a teenager and older) daydreaming about a saviour man. Those imaginings felt euphoric.

    I’ll be back to you in the morning.

    🌿 Anita

    in reply to: Permission to feel optimistic #459969
    anita
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    Hi Girija 🙂

    “Pain has a way of removing layers of pretense”- unless you quoted someone else’s words here (like something you read in an article or in a book), these are Impressively, Uniquely- Girija’s (IUG 🙂) words.

    Profound IUG words, really. So much there.

    I am trying to think of my pretenses, not to deceive, but to protect myself.. I pretended to have no prefernces so to not invite my mother’s criticism or inconvenience. I still say (to whomever asks me for my preference): ‘Whatever you choose”.

    What are your pretenses, or just one pretense, Girija?

    “To embody who I am fully”- a Shakespearian quote comes to mind, “To thine own self be true.

    ‘And it follows like day follows night (I’m sure I’m paraphrasing a bit) thou shall be true to any man (or woman)’

    Which brings me to the married co- worker. Was he genuine/ true to himself and to you.. and to the other woman, and to his wife.. an emotionally-polyamorous guy?

    Things can be so complicated.

    Actually, I experienced it myself, feeling genuinely emotipnally close to a few guys in close succession (not physically, mind you).

    Like a child playing in the playground, not playing with just one chosen other child.

    Moving from the phone to the computer…Will reply again.

    💃 Anita

    anita
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    Hi Nea:

    I relate to what you shared about your father’s rage and aggression. My mother had very similar patterns — physical and verbal aggression from as early as I can remember. When my parents were married, there was violence between them, and after they divorced (I was six), her aggression turned toward me. Like in your case, accountability never followed.

    You wrote that the last incident happened in your mid‑20s. Same for me. I was around that age the last time she came at me to hit me. That time I blocked her — caught her arms and held them. She backed off and never tried again.

    When I got married (very early 20s), she exploded at my husband — verbally, not physically — and I froze. I didn’t protect him, didn’t set boundaries, didn’t redefine anything. We left her home that evening, and not long after, my marriage ended. I didn’t have children.

    So, while my story doesn’t have the strength and clarity you’re showing now, I do understand that moment when you realize the way you learned to survive as a child cannot continue into your adult family.

    You’re already doing something I couldn’t do back then — choosing your own household’s peace over the old patterns and I admire you for that.

    Wishing you a smooth last stretch of pregnancy and a safe, healthy birth.

    🌿 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #459965
    anita
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    Oh, Dear just-a-pup Confused 🙂

    “Just a pup” means you’re still very young at 32 (It’s a saying, like “the bee’s knees”, another saying that fits you ✔️)

    You indeed connected with her so deeply, but remember: it happened almost entirely in the context of the relative emotional safety that a LDR affords.

    There’s a fantasy element involved when you don’t have to actually live with another person, or be with them in- person, day in and day out.

    Maybe she was a perfect LDR partner. Until she wasn’t 😔

    🌿 Anita

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