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anitaParticipantHi Girija:
I read what you shared, and what stood out most is how much strength you’ve built over the last couple of years. You’re not just “getting back up” — you’re actually changing the way you relate to yourself. The confidence you’re feeling now isn’t coming from circumstances being perfect; it’s coming from you learning that you can move forward even when things are uncertain.
I’m glad the last couple of days have felt lighter. It makes sense that full rest doesn’t work for you — you seem to need a mix of activity, learning, and small accomplishments to feel grounded.
What you said about 2025 being your lowest, and how many different paths you tried, shows how much effort you put into rebuilding. None of that was wasted. You didn’t just “live through” those intense years — you learned from them, and you’re carrying that forward now in a more stable way.
And about your mom — I can imagine how heavy this time of year feels. Routine follow‑ups can still bring a lot of anxiety, especially after everything she’s already survived. Seeing her spirit dim is hard, and it’s clear how much you care about her.
I’m here, Girija. You’re doing more growing than you give yourself credit for.
🌿 Anita
August 11, 2026 at 1:11 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460264
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
I read your message slowly, one part at a time, because I wanted to stay close to what you were actually saying.
When people focus on what your husband “should have done differently,” it often comes from a place of trying to manage the aggressor instead of looking at the disproportionate reaction itself. You’re right — the escalation wasn’t about the small thing it started with, and reducing everything to your husband’s behavior doesn’t capture the full picture.
About asking him to say hi “to keep the peace”: I understand why you hoped that might help, but I also understand why you changed your mind. When someone is still angry, self‑righteous, and showing hostility — like the faces you noticed — asking your husband to extend himself again puts the weight on him, not on your dad. You saw that clearly, and your question — “what exactly am I asking my husband to do?” — shows a lot of insight.
If your husband is choosing not to engage because he wants peace, and your dad is continuing the hostility, then you’re right: it isn’t fair or sustainable for your husband to be the only one trying. You’re thinking about the future realistically — gatherings, holidays, the baby — and you’re already recognizing that you can’t build a life where your husband is excluded or expected to absorb disrespect.
About my mother — I mentioned earlier that she repeatedly reached out to hit me. One incident stays with me (and I told you about it): I was in my early or mid‑20s, and even though we were only a few feet apart, she ran toward me to strike me. Before that moment, for years, my reaction had always been the same: silence, looking down, staying small. She even said once, while hitting me, “The only thing I like about you is that you say nothing back and look at the floor.” That pattern went on for a long time.
And then, there was that one time when I finally blocked her from moving toward me. It didn’t feel like a victory — it felt strange and disappointing, because I suddenly realized how easily I could have stopped her all along. That moment changed how I understood fear, compliance, and the way some people maintain control. Some people do become physically dangerous in rage — we see that in the news — but far more often, people rely on the threat of violence, the atmosphere of intimidation, to keep others small.
I’m sharing this only because you said you’re trying to understand the “why and how” behind your father’s behavior. Your situation is your own, and your father is his own person — but sometimes seeing another example helps clarify the structure of a pattern.
I’m here, and I’ll share more if and when it feels useful to you.
🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantHey.. Confused:
I see how much you’re hurting, and it makes me 🙁
“But that still doesn’t make sense because when u lose feelings for someone u are relieved to break up… If I had lost feelings, I wouldn’t feel anything… I wouldn’t be crying my guts out for months on end”-
If you permanently lost feelings, it’d make sense that you’d be relieved to break up, would never feel anything for her and wouldn’t cry your guts out for months on end.
But you only temporarily lost feelings.
“And it felt so amazing when I was holding her/kissing her in December”-
There were amazing moments during the visit, but on the whole, it was not an amazing visit. There were lots of doubts, distance and disconnection on both sides.
This is what you said about the visit back on Dec 21:
“The visit went okay, it was our first time meeting, I stayed for 3 days, and she knew what was happening inside my head, so she was also distant/disconnected… I liked her in person and my body responded very well to us kissing and cuddling (even tho my mind was constantly doubting everything). Took her a lot of time opening up and even touching me tho. The first 2 days she was keeping her distance which I respected (because she needs to develop a sense of trust and security before getting intimate, especially after I planted many doubts in her head).”
Back to today: “Idk anita, is it 50%? This girl truly loved me… It hurts so much when u push a good person away.”- you place her love on a pedestal, seeing it as perfect at all times (100%)?”-
I think that the 2 of U are good people and neither one of you is perfect (100%). (I would like to think of myself in the same way).
“It’s so hard every day without her, I wake up hoping I’ll get a message or something. She’s always in my mind no matter what I’m doing, and I still feel like sharing my every day with her… I doubt life will get any better for me anytime soon 🙁”-
I think that one way for life to feel better for you is to let go of the ideas that (1) what you lost was perfect love, on either side, and that (2) you carry the sole responsibility for the breakup.
I would like to read from you anytime you feel like talking to me.
🌿 Anita
August 10, 2026 at 11:26 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460008
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
It makes me happy (I’m smiling now) to read that what I shared helped you think through, and truly, I have no problem at all with revisiting my past and sharing more. I will do so tomorrow morning (it’s getting close to midnight here).
“I don’t think it’s fair for me to keep asking my husband to be the one extending himself.”- I fully agree.
I’ll write more tomorrow.
🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused: I just noticed your sarcasm (or is it irony, I confuse the two) in your “and look at me now, how well I did 🙂”-
Confused is taking more responsibility than what belongs to you. How about 50% instead of 100%?
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I’m trying to make Confused less confused 🙂
You mentioned many times how you didn’t lose feelings only in the context of her in your life, but in the context of everyone and everything in your life. What I’m pointing to is that if she was life itself for you, if she- or what she represented to you- meant everything, no wonder you lost feeling for everything else.
Or.. am I confused?
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantNot going anywhere with this, was hoping you go somewhere with this..
She meant everything to you before Nov? Maybe not?
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
“If it (the depression/ annhedonia) was related only to her, I would be fine”-
But if she meant EVERYTHING to you, if you were so very invested in her (or in the idea of her) so intensely, so overwhelmingly, is it a wonder that the depression/ annhedonia spread to EVERY part of your life?
🤔 Anita
August 10, 2026 at 8:35 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #459999
anitaParticipantHi again, Nea:
I want to clarify what I meant when I wrote that my mother’s affection was tied to my compliance.
I didn’t mean that she wanted me to comply to behaving in ways that are respectful to other people/ to my elders, or to obeying instructions such as help with cleaning the home and such.
I mean she wanted me to submit to her power for no other reason than that it made her feel better to exert power over me and see me controlled, subdued and self-erasing.
It made her feel temporarily powerful ( and that felt good!). I say temporarily, because she needed to assert her power- at my expense- again and again.
So, her love for me, in practice, was love for how my submission and self-erasure made her feel.
I can share more, but I don’t want to maybe overwhelm you. I shared what I did so to explain the “how and why” behind my mother’s behavior,
Thinking that maybe it might help you just a bit in the struggle you mentioned: “Another part of me is still struggling to truly understand the why and how behind (your father’s behaviours)”.
I understand, of course, that your father and my mother are not the same person and that my childhood experience is not the same as yours. Yet certain patterns and human motivation are quite the same across the world from the beginning of times.
🌿 Anita
August 10, 2026 at 7:03 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #459997
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
I just want to say how much I appreciate the empathy, grace, and emotional maturity in your message. You’re holding such a complicated truth with so much clarity — seeing your father’s harmful patterns while still acknowledging the love you feel. That takes strength.
When you wrote, “I find myself wondering how someone can love their family and yet behave in ways that hurt them,” it struck me deeply. I asked myself that same question for years.
For a long time, I held onto a loving image of my mother because the real version of her was too frightening to face. Over time, my understanding shifted. I realized she had moments of affection, but they were tied to my compliance — not to seeing me as a separate person with my own worth. When she sensed even small signs of independence, she became aggressive and hurtful again.
It took me a long time to understand that love mixed with harm is not the kind of love that nurtures a child. And it took even longer to let myself see that clearly.
I’ll write more soon, but I wanted to share this part with you now.
Anita
anitaParticipantGood Monday morning, Confused 🙂
Yes, your motivation changed since Nov, your doubts and shutdowns started then, as well as a general loss of pleasure. It happened before your irl visit with her on Dec.
Fast forward 8 months, and she experienced something similar this July- Aug, before the scheduled Aug irl visit with you, which would have been the 2nd visit.
Do you agree with what I wrote above?
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Girija 🙂
The coworker we’ve been talking about- with his “powerful words and actions” (your words about him earlier)- was your hope for a savior?
I’m reminded of the 1981 book “The Cinderalla Complex”, it’s about the hope and fantasy of many, many women to be rescued by a man, to be like Cinderalla who was rescued from her hopeless life with her evil stepmother by a prince.
Although many more women work and earn a good income since 1981, the fantasy is alive and well, particularly when it comes to more traditional societies and anxious women who grew up without emotional safety.
There are approaches in different therapies that target this very fantasy, teaching women to develop a “secure base” within, or develop a secure adult self/ a capable “inner parent” to take care of the anxious “inner child”.
But none of it is easy, of course, for a girl who grew up without a secure base, or a capable parent 😔.
I didn’t even know Medium exists, or if I came across the word before, I forgot. I may look into it. Thank you for mentioning it.
How are you feeling today/ this evening?
🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantHey 🙂Confused:
Good.. good to read from you this Sun night (here), and to see another “haha”, whether genuine or ironic. Will B back 2 U in the morning.
😴💤🌙💤 Anita
anitaParticipantHi again, Girija:
“Last night I had an incredible realisation that I really got to live… It was a life in and of itself… It was amazing too.”- I wish you could tell me more about that Life‑In‑And‑Of‑Itself. How did it feel all that time?
“I don’t know if needing that sense of belonging all the time is good for me… I honestly think I don’t know how to live life… it’s a dull contrast to what I had with him and the previous team.”-
Losing two places where you felt connected would make anyone question belonging, direction, and how life is supposed to feel. Wanting belonging is human. And the contrast you’re describing… I can imagine how sharp it must feel.
… I just saw your most recent message. I’ll reply more fully in the morning (it’s Sunday, after 10 pm here), but for now, this part stayed with me:
“My pretenses – pretending I don’t want a saviour to swoop in, make my life feel good and make me less aware.”-
Girija… that’s such honest writing. Naming that wish takes courage. Wanting someone who brings ease, comfort, and a break from emotional intensity is such a human thing. You put it into words beautifully.
I spent so many, many hours (as a teenager and older) daydreaming about a saviour man. Those imaginings felt euphoric.
I’ll be back to you in the morning.
🌿 Anita
anitaParticipantHi Girija 🙂
“Pain has a way of removing layers of pretense”- unless you quoted someone else’s words here (like something you read in an article or in a book), these are Impressively, Uniquely- Girija’s (IUG 🙂) words.
Profound IUG words, really. So much there.
I am trying to think of my pretenses, not to deceive, but to protect myself.. I pretended to have no prefernces so to not invite my mother’s criticism or inconvenience. I still say (to whomever asks me for my preference): ‘Whatever you choose”.
What are your pretenses, or just one pretense, Girija?
“To embody who I am fully”- a Shakespearian quote comes to mind, “To thine own self be true.
‘And it follows like day follows night (I’m sure I’m paraphrasing a bit) thou shall be true to any man (or woman)’
Which brings me to the married co- worker. Was he genuine/ true to himself and to you.. and to the other woman, and to his wife.. an emotionally-polyamorous guy?
Things can be so complicated.
Actually, I experienced it myself, feeling genuinely emotipnally close to a few guys in close succession (not physically, mind you).
Like a child playing in the playground, not playing with just one chosen other child.
Moving from the phone to the computer…Will reply again.
💃 Anita
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