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August 12, 2026 at 7:51 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460296
anitaParticipantWell, Nea, I lost that long unfinished message when I closed that window by mistake, then started a new message from scratch, but didn’t quie complete it before I had to get off the computer. Now, I’m using my phone and won’t have access to the computer- and to that message- for a couple of hours.
One reason each message has taken me so much time to put together is because this is a personal topic for me, I don’t want to say too much, and I don’t want to project my mother into your father and get carried away.
I’d like to tell you right now, in simple, spontaneous words, what I’m thinking- before getting back to the computer:
Your father and my mother grew up on different continents, speak different languages, are of different genders and financial status, and are, I’m guessing, about 25 years apart. Yet, they are similar in these ways:
They’re about dominance, not love. At least, not the kind of love that has space for those 2 magical words you used: “basic respect”.
They’re about having power-over, not the win-win kind of love.
For them to win, the “opponent” needs to lose.
And who is one of their opponents? Their own child (of any age), sooner or later.
Maybe if you perfectly obey them all the time and never, ever challenge them (as in expressing any thought or emotion that rubs them the wrong way).. wait, that’s impossible..
So, no: there’s no ‘maybe’. You’re the opponent, in my case, sooner than later.
In both the case of your father and my mother, it’s not a temporary kind of behavior, such as at a time of unusual circumstances. It’s decades- long, persistent pattern that’s very unlikely to change.
It’s not that they’re malicious, cold hearted manipulators who’se aim is to hurt those closest to them, dependent on them. It’s just that by impact, that’s exactly what they do.
And they won’t stop or change no matter what you say or do because they know no other way to be.
It’s like they only know Win or Lose, Strong or Weak. They don’t know collabaration, working together.
B Back 2 U later.
Anita
anitaParticipantHi understandably petty, giddy, and soap-opera-villain Girija đ:
“Every human has a place.”- âď¸
And every emotion has a valid message, one that aims at helping one to survive or thrive as an individual and as a social being.
So, your at times giddiness and wishing him misery, the valid message:
Girija needs and deserves to be respected and should not accept or tolerate disrespect.
I hope that your mother is cancer-free and that you don’t spend much time worrying.
Your peace of mind is very important. You don’t deserve to suffer because of a disproportionate-distribution-of-misery that you have no control over.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
It makes me smile to see your đand to think that maybe you’re smiling, even if it is for a short moment.
I hear how torn you are â part of you still loves the version of her who made you feel safe, understood, and ‘at home,’ and another part of you is angry at how things ended.
It makes sense that youâre holding onto the magical moments. Those were real for you. But the fantasy was that those moments meant the relationship was solid and secure. The reality is that she also brought doubts, interrogations, and mistrust â and those parts were just as real as the good ones.
People reconnect only when both sides grow. You canât do that alone. You can only work with your own feelings. And letting go of resentment doesnât mean pretending she didnât hurt you â it means accepting that the person you miss is the version of her from the beginning, not the one who showed up at the end.
Youâre grieving both the relationship and the dream you built around it. Thatâs why it feels so heavy.
Iâm here with you as you sort through all of this, Confused.
* This very morning, an article from Psych Central about breakups showed up in my inbox, and I thought it might help you. It’s titled: “What Does it Mean to Get Closure in a Relationship?”:
“Relationships sometimes end whether we want them to or not, and itâs often a painful experience. You might feel confused about the complex feelings and situation, especially if you donât have closure.
“When you get closure in a relationship, you can release negative emotions and focus on healing and growth.
“Closure in a relationship means you understand the situation better and accept how it turned out, giving you a sense of peace as you move forward. Studies show that those who gain understanding experience less inner turmoil during and after the breakup.
â’Closure might vary from person to person. However, closure ultimately is an understanding and acceptance that a relationship has ended and often includes a rationale for why it ended,’ explains Dr. Beth Ribarsky, professor of interpersonal communication with expertise in romantic relationships…
“Closure allows you to better understand what happened between you and your partner. The absence of lingering questions or doubts can help you move on after a breakup.
“Some examples of closure include getting answers to your questions, understanding why it happened, accepting the situation, being able to go extended time without thinking of the other person, learning from the situation and experiencing self-growth…
“Itâs OK to be angry… Sometimes, itâs hard to release negative feelings about the end of the relationship. These feelings could be toward yourself or the other person. Either way, it can prevent you from finding closure and peace. Consider forgiving everyone involved to release any toxicity holding you back.
“You donât have to go through things alone, and turning to your support system shows that youâre strong enough to move forward. Your trusted friends and loved ones want to help you, and youâll feel better when you do…
“If you arenât sure if youâve found closure yet, you can look for signs that you havenât, including the following: being unable to stop thinking about it, not understanding how or why things ended, repeatedly checking their social media, questioning your worth, having trouble sleeping, feeling angry or resentful, feeling like itâs not truly the end of the relationship, not being able to complete tasks, continuing to reach out to the person…”
What thinks Confused?
đ¤ Anita
August 12, 2026 at 11:25 am in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460288
anitaParticipantDear Nea: Just wanted to let you know that I’ve been working on what looks like a long reply for you in the last couple of hours and it’ll take me some more time.
anitaParticipantEdit: And I hoped
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
She was/ is unique, and so are you (the bee’s knees đ) Please remember that!
Yes, many times, you felt amazing and strong feelings with her, loved and cared for.
How did it feel inside, to be loved and cared for?
I too feel sad that she’s gone. I miss reading about your conversations, and I hope that an irl relationship will materialize đ
Are you still talking to your coworkers- friends about her?
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHi Girija:
“I will never understand this disproportionate distribution of misery among humans”- okay, really, I am bamboozled (my favorite word) by your cognitive- literary genius.
I mean, you have the bee’s knees way of saying things.
It’s late here and guess who is a bit tipsy. I’ll be back to you in the morning.
Anita
August 11, 2026 at 10:55 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460280
anitaParticipantHey Dear Nea:
What youâre describing is a longâstanding family pattern, not a oneâtime situation. Your dad has never handled conflict through conversation or accountability, and your mom and sister have learned to survive by keeping the peace. So, when you say their answer would be to âavoid more conflict,â that makes complete sense â theyâre responding the way theyâve always had to.
The hotâandâcold behavior youâre getting from your father is also part of that same pattern. He softens when he remembers youâre pregnant, then becomes cold again when he feels you didnât follow the script he expects. That unpredictability is exhausting for anyone, but especially for someone whoâs about to give birth and needs stability, calm, and emotional safety.
Given all of this, I think the most realistic and selfâprotective path for you right now isnât trying to change the family dynamic â itâs creating a small, steady bubble of calm inside it. Your sister sounds like someone who can help you with that. Your mom may not be able to challenge your dad, but she does care about you and can support you in quieter ways. Leaning on them for emotional steadiness, even if they canât intervene directly, might be the most helpful thing available in this environment.
And for your father, the safest approach may be exactly what youâre already doing: keeping gentle distance, not escalating, and not apologizing for something you didnât do. Youâre not abandoning your family â youâre protecting your mental and emotional health during a vulnerable time.
Youâre navigating this with so much clarity, Nea, even inside a very difficult system. Iâm here with you as you figure out the next steps.
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I hear your pain đ
I think she represented a kind of love youâve been longing for your whole life â something you hoped would finally feel safe and complete. And the intensity you felt was real, even if the relationship itself wasnât fully lived or stable yet.
You werenât ready to commit to a forever life together; you were willing to try a month and see how it felt. Thatâs okay â it just means the connection was still forming, not finished.
Something about her, and about the distance of the LDR, created very strong feelings inside you. Those feelings were real.
How are you now?
Anita
August 11, 2026 at 9:15 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460277
anitaParticipantHey Nea:
You are welcome, and thank you đ
You wrote: âIf my family wants to sit downstairs together, watch something, or do something as a familyâŚâ
I was imagining what it would look like if you asked your family (not including your husband) to sit downstairs with you, and you told them â in your own words from your message to me:
âFamily and staying connected are such a huge part of how I was raised. Iâm extremely pregnant, about to become a mom myself, and being at my parentsâ home during this stage should feel like a blessing and a place of support. Instead, I feel like Iâm managing tension, moods, and trying to make sure my husband doesnât feel pushed out. Itâs exhausting and honestly really sad.â
And then adding something like: âCan you help me feel better, safer, calmer as Iâm nearing giving birth?â
That would be a reasonable idea for a reasonable family. But in families with intimidation dynamics, something that looks like a âmeetingâ can feel confrontational or escalate tension. Your father may interpret it as a challenge to his authority, an accusation, or an opportunity to lecture or blame. Youâd be exposing your vulnerability in front of someone who historically does not respond with empathy â and in front of others who wonât challenge him, however gently.
A safer version might be gathering the family minus your dad first and telling them: ‘Iâm pregnant, Iâm tired, and I need support. I donât want tension in the house. I need us to find a way to make things calmer.’ Then asking: ‘Can you help me with this?’
What do you think their answer would be?
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused: I’ll get back 2 U in a couple of hours or so.
anitaParticipantHi Girija:
I read what you shared, and what stood out most is how much strength youâve built over the last couple of years. Youâre not just âgetting back upâ â youâre actually changing the way you relate to yourself. The confidence youâre feeling now isnât coming from circumstances being perfect; itâs coming from you learning that you can move forward even when things are uncertain.
Iâm glad the last couple of days have felt lighter. It makes sense that full rest doesnât work for you â you seem to need a mix of activity, learning, and small accomplishments to feel grounded.
What you said about 2025 being your lowest, and how many different paths you tried, shows how much effort you put into rebuilding. None of that was wasted. You didnât just âlive throughâ those intense years â you learned from them, and youâre carrying that forward now in a more stable way.
And about your mom â I can imagine how heavy this time of year feels. Routine followâups can still bring a lot of anxiety, especially after everything sheâs already survived. Seeing her spirit dim is hard, and itâs clear how much you care about her.
Iâm here, Girija. Youâre doing more growing than you give yourself credit for.
đż Anita
August 11, 2026 at 1:11 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460264
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
I read your message slowly, one part at a time, because I wanted to stay close to what you were actually saying.
When people focus on what your husband âshould have done differently,â it often comes from a place of trying to manage the aggressor instead of looking at the disproportionate reaction itself. Youâre right â the escalation wasnât about the small thing it started with, and reducing everything to your husbandâs behavior doesnât capture the full picture.
About asking him to say hi âto keep the peaceâ: I understand why you hoped that might help, but I also understand why you changed your mind. When someone is still angry, selfârighteous, and showing hostility â like the faces you noticed â asking your husband to extend himself again puts the weight on him, not on your dad. You saw that clearly, and your question â âwhat exactly am I asking my husband to do?â â shows a lot of insight.
If your husband is choosing not to engage because he wants peace, and your dad is continuing the hostility, then youâre right: it isnât fair or sustainable for your husband to be the only one trying. Youâre thinking about the future realistically â gatherings, holidays, the baby â and youâre already recognizing that you canât build a life where your husband is excluded or expected to absorb disrespect.
About my mother â I mentioned earlier that she repeatedly reached out to hit me. One incident stays with me (and I told you about it): I was in my early or midâ20s, and even though we were only a few feet apart, she ran toward me to strike me. Before that moment, for years, my reaction had always been the same: silence, looking down, staying small. She even said once, while hitting me, âThe only thing I like about you is that you say nothing back and look at the floor.â That pattern went on for a long time.
And then, there was that one time when I finally blocked her from moving toward me. It didnât feel like a victory â it felt strange and disappointing, because I suddenly realized how easily I could have stopped her all along. That moment changed how I understood fear, compliance, and the way some people maintain control. Some people do become physically dangerous in rage â we see that in the news â but far more often, people rely on the threat of violence, the atmosphere of intimidation, to keep others small.
Iâm sharing this only because you said youâre trying to understand the âwhy and howâ behind your fatherâs behavior. Your situation is your own, and your father is his own person â but sometimes seeing another example helps clarify the structure of a pattern.
Iâm here, and Iâll share more if and when it feels useful to you.
đż Anita
anitaParticipantHey.. Confused:
I see how much you’re hurting, and it makes me đ
“But that still doesnât make sense because when u lose feelings for someone u are relieved to break up… If I had lost feelings, I wouldnât feel anything… I wouldn’t be crying my guts out for months on end”-
If you permanently lost feelings, it’d make sense that you’d be relieved to break up, would never feel anything for her and wouldn’t cry your guts out for months on end.
But you only temporarily lost feelings.
“And it felt so amazing when I was holding her/kissing her in December”-
There were amazing moments during the visit, but on the whole, it was not an amazing visit. There were lots of doubts, distance and disconnection on both sides.
This is what you said about the visit back on Dec 21:
“The visit went okay, it was our first time meeting, I stayed for 3 days, and she knew what was happening inside my head, so she was also distant/disconnected… I liked her in person and my body responded very well to us kissing and cuddling (even tho my mind was constantly doubting everything). Took her a lot of time opening up and even touching me tho. The first 2 days she was keeping her distance which I respected (because she needs to develop a sense of trust and security before getting intimate, especially after I planted many doubts in her head).”
Back to today: “Idk anita, is it 50%? This girl truly loved me… It hurts so much when u push a good person away.”- you place her love on a pedestal, seeing it as perfect at all times (100%)?”-
I think that the 2 of U are good people and neither one of you is perfect (100%). (I would like to think of myself in the same way).
“It’s so hard every day without her, I wake up hoping Iâll get a message or something. Sheâs always in my mind no matter what I’m doing, and I still feel like sharing my every day with her… I doubt life will get any better for me anytime soon đ”-
I think that one way for life to feel better for you is to let go of the ideas that (1) what you lost was perfect love, on either side, and that (2) you carry the sole responsibility for the breakup.
I would like to read from you anytime you feel like talking to me.
đż Anita
August 10, 2026 at 11:26 pm in reply to: When family dynamics you grew up with become unacceptable in adulthood #460008
anitaParticipantHi Nea:
It makes me happy (I’m smiling now) to read that what I shared helped you think through, and truly, I have no problem at all with revisiting my past and sharing more. I will do so tomorrow morning (it’s getting close to midnight here).
“I donât think itâs fair for me to keep asking my husband to be the one extending himself.”- I fully agree.
I’ll write more tomorrow.
đż Anita
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