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  • in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460565
    anita
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    b back 2 you in a couple of hours or so

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460561
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    Good Sunday Morning, Confused 🙂

    I’m using my phone, scrolling up and down, so I’ll start at the end of your message.

    “Videocall was great, I felt jealous… in my whole body, but still now I can’t feel excitement to message her and stuff… 11 hours went by so fast during videocall.”-

    It’s how the body normally/ naturally works: it doesn’t stay excited all the time and forevermore. It’s totally normal that after 11 hours of excitement, the body would take a break.

    And yes, it makes sense that videocalling is more exciting than texting because of the visual factor.

    Wow, Confused, 11 hours of “a great time overall”, laughing and having an honest conversation- that’s powerful! I’m glad both of you had this time together!

    ..I felt sad reading that every time you narrated a story with an ex, she felt like you were “twisting a knife in a wound”. I hope this imagery is strong enough to stop any future impulsive (ADHD like) story telling that involves an ex.

    * If that’s too difficult or impossible for you.. better not tell stories in regard to your past at all. What thinks Confused?

    “I expressed my own needs/ issues about her being more expressive”-

    Excellent job, Confused 👍 And I’m glad you expressed to her that being interrogated is not working for you (I hope she doesn’t do that again).

    * My last message to you was about what’s underneath the habit of a person not expressing themselves (fear- based passivity and childhood conditioning). It may shed some light on how difficult it is to release the fear underneath the passivity. There are ways to work on this conditioning.

    “I told her to stop being so afraid of everything and stop making negative scenarios…”-

    Although she can’t stop the fear and the beginnings of scenarios forming in her head, she probably can learn to Notice the beginning scenarios and Challenge them (there are CBT workbooks that help to challenge thoughts/ scenarios).

    “In the end I asked her how she feels about us and she said: ‘The problem is, I still want you 150% but I’m scared”-

    On one hand, her answer makes me go: ohhh, how honest, how human (fear existing alongside want/ love) ✨️✨️✨️

    On the other hand, it’s a problem that her answer starts with the word “problem”. She’s basically saying that wanting you is a problem for her.

    * If she wants you 150%, what are the percentages of her fear over time? Sometimes more than the wanting (and she becomes cold and withdraws), at other times less than the wanting, and she’s a delight to talk with..?

    🤔 Anita

    anita
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    Thank you, Roberta 🙂

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460553
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    Edit: the exact saying is “a ship without a helm”, definitely not a sheep 😁

    in reply to: Finding My Way Through the Uncertainty #460550
    anita
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    Edit: (impossible) perfection.

    in reply to: Finding My Way Through the Uncertainty #460549
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    Hi again, SereneWolf:

    It’s okay if you don’t feel like answering my 2 questions from my first reply, or if you’re not in the mood for answering any questions at all 🙂

    I’d like to share with you my own experience with starting a new chapter, while re-experiencing the same old, same old uncertainties.

    Every time I decided on starting a new chapter ( starting as a teenager), I believed that it was possible for me to get rid of the feelings that kept me stuck in the old chapter.

    Believing that felt euphoric for a while, but the old feelings returned and I found myself back in the old chapter, more and more discouraged 😔

    What finally made it possible for me to move on to a new chapter has been to comit myself not to (impossible) erfection but to (possible) learning.

    The last 3 words in your original post are “trust in myself.”-

    I used to be consumed with self- doubt (old chapter). But not anymore.

    Every single day I repeat the same words (a mantra, I think it is), the ending of it says exactly this:

    “I redirect self- doubt and distrust in my own perceptions, evaluations, emotions and worth=> to trust in my own perceptions, evaluations, emotions and worth-

    “Not because I’m perfect or could ever be, but because I’m learning.”

    If any of this speaks to you, please let me know.

    🌿 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460547
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    Good Sat Morning, Confused 🌅

    Confused: “I feel like I am with a ‘sheep with no will'”- I looked it up: it means a person who doesn’t initiate, doesn’t express preferences, and simply goes along with whatever someone else says.

    * This describes 100% the way I used to be.

    Confused: “a passive person that expects 100% from me every time… Why would she feel that?… I think it’s fear of rejection that stalls her mostly”-

    Fear‑based passivity is when someone avoids initiating, expressing preferences, or showing desire because doing so feels dangerous — not physically, but emotionally.

    It develops when a person has learned that speaking up leads to rejection, criticism, or being ignored, so they protect themselves by staying quiet and letting others lead. Over time, this becomes a habit: they wait for the other person to initiate so they never have to risk being rejected.

    Habits are hard to break, (and deep childhood conditioning is even harder to break- see below), this is why she briefly tried to be more active and then slipped back into avoidant passivity once fear resurfaced.

    By avoidant passivity, I mean trying to avoid rejection, criticism, being judged, or conflict.

    This kind of passivity almost always starts in childhood, and not because the child is naturally quiet, but because the environment teaches them that expressing themselves is unsafe. If a child’s preferences were dismissed, or if showing desire brought conflict, they develop fear‑based passivity as a survival strategy.

    By adulthood, it looks like “old‑fashioned values” — but underneath, it’s the same childhood pattern of avoiding vulnerability.

    Childhood conditioning toward passivity means the child learns, over many years, that not acting is safer than acting — and that silence protects them better than expression.

    * For me, Confused, this explains things better than anything else:

    When someone grows up with childhood conditioning toward passivity, they learn to hold in their feelings, needs, and frustrations because expressing them feels unsafe. But holding things in doesn’t make the feelings disappear — it makes them accumulate. Over time, the pressure builds until it bursts out in a sudden, disproportionate emotional reaction. That’s why a person who is normally quiet, deferential, or conflict‑avoidant can suddenly erupt with rage, harsh labels, or extreme statements like calling you a “narcissistic ass****.” The explosions are the release of months or years of unspoken fear, insecurity, and resentment.

    The passivity protects her until she feels overwhelmed, and then the emotional system flips into fight‑mode because she has no middle ground.

    What thinks Confused?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: Finding My Way Through the Uncertainty #460542
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    One more thing, SereneWolf:

    I want to say that I see you’re starting fresh, and I respect that. Sometimes clearing the slate makes it easier to hear yourself without all the old noise.

    I’m glad you’re here.

    Anita

    in reply to: Finding My Way Through the Uncertainty #460541
    anita
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    Welcome back, SereneWolf 🙂

    I thought you might be coming back as SWolf 🙂

    I think that what you need here, in tiny buddha, is less analysis and more emotional presence: someone (or someones) to truly listen.

    I can’t think of a more worthy quest than to live with less fear and more trust in oneself.

    I wonder, how does the fear feel in your body?

    And moments of trust in yourself, how do those feel?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460538
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    Continued:

    Hmm.. maybe she thinks that a man should pursue the woman and pay for everything?

    Maybe she feels ‘unloved’ if she has to spend money in a relationship.

    What do U think?

    (Trying to understand what drives.. or stalls her).

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460536
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    Hey Dear Confused 🙂

    “The first thing I’m gonna clarify before we begin talking… is that I’m not here to prove myself innocent, we’re here to open up about what bothered us and feel heard”- 👍👍👍

    Sincerely, Confused, I am impressed with you!

    .. I’ll b Back in a moment

    anita
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    Good late morning, about-to-become-mom, Nea 🙂

    “I’m realizing how difficult it has become for me to be extending empathy for someone who has never really changed”-

    A few years ago, and I shared about it somewhere in these forums, I had an image of a plant situated in a dry, arid ground, so its roots keep growing longer and longer, trying to reach water.

    Similar to a child, situated in an empathy-arid home, extending more and more empathy toward the unempathetic parent, trying to reach his or her heart.

    💛 Anita

    anita
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    Good morning, Mitch:

    I’m back to your thread 8 days after you started it, just to say that your resentment is valid, meaning, it has a purpose-

    To motivate you to act in ways that not only honor the other person’s needs, but also your own,

    To shift, however gradually, from self- sacrifice, or self- erasure to ===> self- respect and assertion.

    You matter no less than any other person!

    So, don’t try to get rid of your anger. Instead, listen to its message. Once its message is delivered and actualized, it will naturally weaken and eventually be gone

    ✨️✨️✨️ Anita

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    Back to the quote above, “With family you can yell, swear, or behave however you want.”-

    Before continuing the quote, look at what he said right above:

    He’s celebrating his freedom to yell, swear and behave however he wants with family, with immediate family: wife and children.. those living “under his roof”.

    Continued: “Whereas you have to control yourself with outsiders”-

    He doesn’t like not having the freedom to yell, swear and behave however he wants with outsiders.

    I suppose his immediate/ living-under-his-roof family provides him with something he can’t get elsewhere and he’s grateful for that.

    He’s almost saying: ‘You’re providing me with the opportunity to do what I need to do: yell, swear, and behave however I want, thank you!’

    And if he is to consider your husband as an insider, as an immediate family member (rather than extended family member or a non- family outsider), your husband too needs to provide your father with that precious opportunity to yell, swear, and behave however he wants.

    Not at all times, only when he needs to.

    Does this resonate?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #460527
    anita
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    Hey 🙂 Confused:

    The following made me smile:

    “But guess what? She has contradictions too.”-

    That’s Confused standing up for himself 👍 👏 👍

    I have no doubt that she’s not a bad person, just a person with an unhealed emotional wound, a wound that took place way before she knew you even existed.

    So, there’re all the good times you had with her on one hand, and on the other- you having to prove that you’re not a liar.. why, that’s unfair to you! (It makes me 🤬)

    I know you for how many pages? I’m not sure, a 100, 8 months? I know that you are not a liar and that you shouldn’t be treated as if you were one.

    “Also times that I violated her boundaries”- did she specify?

    🤔 Anita

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