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anitaParticipantIt’s been a while since I wrote whatever comes to mind in regard to my mother, the most powerful figure in my life-
Whatever comes to mind:
There’s an UNBRIDGABLE distance between what/ who I WISHED she was.. and.. what she was.
The endless CRAVING for love.. ahh.. the craving. As in, the most WONDERFUL thing in the world would come true.. if she’d only love me.
LOVE me.. Imagine.. The magic in it. The craving for this magic- endless.
The DESIRE to be loved by her: endless.. And futile. A never to be satisfied DESIRE.
It’s a thirst that can never be quenched.
LOVE ME! LOVE ME! LOVE ME! is the scream coming out of my deepest (inner child) self.
LOVE ME, PLEASE, LOVE ME!
.. Not in her heart, not capable, just.. not there, not there for me, bypassing me… bit of seeming affection here and there, interrupted by HATE.. Yes, hating me.
Every single hour of my life, every hour I’m awake, I feel her hate in the tics/ tension in my body. (easing these days)
Mothers.. some/ too many mothers feel so JUSTIFIED in hating their children, excited to finally be FREE to redirect abuse to the next generation= the defenseless.
It’s a relief for them- to be on the other side of abuse.. (to no longer be the abused, but the victory (to be the ones in power, the abusers!) Ahh.. How much better it feels to Abuse than to Be Abused.
And then the breadcrumbs they throw your way.. to keep you hooked.
Ahh.. Evil.
anitaParticipantHey, Confused: She should have never, ever, never called you “retard, moron”, or a “nothing”, not a single time!
“To be fair, she would call me nice words”- no, it doesn’t make it fair.
My mother too said nice things- in-between the hateful things she said. All it did was to confuse me.
There’s no “equal time” for hate/abuse, as in neutralizing the hate/ abuse with nice words.
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Love-Hate-Confused, Confused?
“I never blamed her”- but she blamed you for…what?
“she couldn’t express (love) always and in the right way. It was mostly fighting and arguing”-
Fighting her loving boy was not expressing love in the wrong way; it was not an expression of love.
Confusing love with hate, Confused..?
When my mother tried so hard to make me feel bad, saying “You’re one Big Zero, a Nothing!”- that was not expressing love in the wrong way. Plain and simple: it was expressing hate.
Anita
anitaParticipantWhat dis she argue about, what were her complaints in regard to you?
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
“I’m happy that you found some good tips to calm down Bogart’s anxiety, and that Alessa, as an experienced dog mom, has plenty of useful advice 😊”- I have a new appreciation for Alessa and any other dedicated moms of young children (Bogart is the equivalent of a 3.5 year old child). I am no longer free to go where I want, neither can I leave him alone- although it’s recommended to leave him alone for 30 to 60 minutes from time to time- because the house is not beagle proof (just too much stuff he can get into). So, couldn’t go on my walk today AND when I went on the treadmill, he got scared.. so I didn’t.
“I hope that it’s just a phase and he will adapt, little by little, and that you’ll be able to take him both to the taproom and your daily walk 🤞”- I can’t wait to tell you that I took him on my daily walk and/ or to the taproom.. Well, I’ll have to wait. I took him out today, tried to gently direct him toward the road but he wouldn’t.
“Yeah, I’ve never thought of a narcissist being on a pedestal before, but I’ve read that they are jealous of others, and so they have a need to elevate themselves, to feel superior. So equality is not possible, unfortunately..”- neither equality nor team work, it just occurred to me.
“And I’m happy to be able to do that, even if growing up with such a mother and soaking in those negative messages was pretty dreary. And yeah, it left long-lasting consequences. But, we learn until we die, and we can rise above the old programming… I’m happy we both are doing it! 🤞 🙏”- I like it, that we are learning every day 🤞 🤞 🙏 🙏
“Wishing you a pleasant walk in the snow with Bogart! Perhaps this will be his first snow, so I’m sure quite an experience for him (but as the advice said, take it easy, so he doesn’t get overwhelmed – sorry, just repeating Copilot’s advice, not pretending I know anything about dog keeping 😊) 🐾 🤍”- Didn’t snow today, not at all, just a bit of rain. I have a cold a few days now, but more so today, nose and ears plugged. And couldn’t go on a walk. Was feeling low, but remembered your input about not catastrophizing and thinking positively.. and I felt/ feel better 🙏 🙏 🙏
I read all your posts on the other thread (Real Spirituality), you’re amazing, Tee!!!
🤍 🫶 🙏 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantWould you say, Confused (soon to be Clear 🙂) that the most influential relationship in your life was the one with your mother, simply because it took place during your formative years (childhood)?
Could you do a journaling exercise (type out whatever comes to mind, as in a child telling it like it is, with that childhood honesty and spontaneity) in regard to that formative-years relationship?
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHello Confused:
“It is but I don’t know how to explore it.”- how about journaling about it, privately or here, in this thread, just type whatever comes to mind into your compute screen, type one sentence before you know what the next will be.. just let it all come out of you as it will, preferably in a relaxed state of mind..?
It has helped me to do so many times.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantThank you, Tee, what a lovely message 👍 🙏
I woke up way too early today (Bogart was restless) and I intend to go back to bed (now that Bogart is sleeping and lightly snoring)> I’ll reply further later.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa: you make me feel that I’m not alone as a (new) dog mom. This is a new experience to me.. He’s just too adorable. I heard Bogart whine, I heard him growl just once.. Didn’t yet hear him bark.
It’s been a rainy but a warm winter here, but tomorrow, it will snow.. Bogart’s first experience in the snow, his very first.. How will he react?
I’ll let you know and respond more tomorrow, post Christmas Day.
❄️ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused becoming Clearer:
“like I’m gonna owe them, or now they have ‘control’ over me in a way”- I think this is worth exploring.
This Power Struggle.. it’s origin, with your mother?
Anita
anitaParticipantHey, Confused:
“I’ve only known how to be strong and be there for other”- if you let others be there for you, if you depend on another.. is it strength or weakness?
Anita
anitaParticipantHello Confused!
Not feeling the need to run, not feeling suffocated.. that’s excellent. Be patient with the process. Don’t force yourself to feel anything.
“I think I’ve never felt like I’m not deserving of love, just generally lacking the idea behind it”- lacking the idea of deserving love? So.. not thinking you don’t deserve love, but never thinking you do deserve it?
I didn’t go through a strict IFS therapy, only elements of it.
Take your time, watch videos.. Let me know what it means to you..
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Thomas:
How kind of you to check on Laven for a second time, and to hope that she’s healthy, happy and safe.
Thank you for your kind words, Thomas. I think you’re quite capable to touch another’s pain and bring relief and.. you are not mis stepping!
Christmas Day is almost over.
Have a Merry Christmas Evening Thomas
And Laven 🎄✨🎅🤶🕯️❄️⛄🎁🌟🦌🍪🥛🧦🔔🎀
Dear Laven: We (Thomas and I) are hoping to read from you soon.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
I made a big mistake in the last car ride, wearing a strong perfume (WHAT WAS I THINKING.. There’s a beagle in the car, no more of THAT!)
Today, I stayed home with Bogart, not joining a Christmas Day event I was invited to. I can’t leave him alone here because, FOR ONE THING, the place is not beagle-proofed. I have so much appreciation for you, Alessa, being a dog-mom AND a human mom. For crying out loud- there’s so much to it!
Bogart is chewing on a toy bone, approved (I always have to pay attention to what he’s chewing).
He’s adorable though. And yes, I won’t be picking him up, it did hurt my back and was not necessary.
Thank you for the input, Alessa, you are definitely an experienced dog mom, I am so new at this!
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear James: you are interpreting a personal, extreme experience as a universal truth.
You described a year in darkness and silence, 8–10 hours of meditation per day, a near‑death experience, an open‑heart surgery, a belief that you “died many times”. Long periods of isolation or sensory reduction can lead to: feeling detached from one’s body,
feeling like the self is unreal, feeling like thoughts are happening ‘on their own’, and a sense that the world is dreamlike or emptyThis is dissociation and depersonalization that can make someone interpret their experience as “there is no self” or “everything is nothing.”
A conviction that your experience is the only truth, warnings that others will “burn” or “go insane” if they don’t accept your view0 this worldview, is being filtered through extreme sensory deprivation, trauma, isolation and altered states of consciousness, a collapse of personal identity, and a strong need to universalize your experience.
Those factors make you sound rigid, apocalyptic, absolutist, disconnected from shared reality, convinced you’ve discovered a final truth.
You interpret your internal experience as: the nature of the universe, the fate of all humans, the only truth, a warning others must hear. That’s why your messages feel heavy, fatalistic, and sometimes frightening. This is your psychological state being treated (by you) as metaphysics.
The worldview you’re expressing — “there is no self, no awareness, no soul, no meaning, only nothingness” — is functionally absolute nihilism. Again, you’re interpreting a personal psychological state as universal truth, which is why it comes across as nihilism rather than non‑duality.
You deny the validity of all other experiences. When Tee mentions NDEs full of love, light, or consciousness, you dismiss them as “mind.” When I described non‑duality, you dismiss it as “belief.”
This is classic nihilistic absolutism: “My nothingness is the only truth; everything else is illusion.”
That’s not philosophy — that’s personal nihilism interpreted as cosmic law.
You reject all relational concepts of love. You say love is: “Being nothing.”, “No one to protect.”, “No one to suffer.” This is not love as any spiritual tradition defines it. It’s the emotional tone of nihilism dressed in spiritual language.
You repeatedly say: “Awareness is nothingness.”, “The soul is nothingness.”, “Before birth = nothing. After death = nothing.”, “There is no you.”, “Everything you attach to burns.”- This is not non‑duality.
Non‑duality says the personal self dissolves into awareness, not into nothing.
You say awareness itself dissolves. That’s absolute nihilism.
You deny the existence of: a self, a soul, awareness, consciousness, meaning, continuity after death, any underlying reality beyond the body- This is the core of metaphysical nihilism (nothing exists in any meaningful sense) and existential nihilism (life has no inherent meaning).
Dear Tee: you’ve been engaging with patience and curiosity, and your question is exactly the right one. You’re not dismissing James’s experience; you’re simply pointing out the contradiction between: “There is no self,” and “I am here to warn you, you misunderstand, you must see the truth.” That contradiction matters because if there is no “James,” then there is also no one to warn, no one to correct, no one to insist on a single truth.
Someone — or some perspective — is clearly interacting with us. Calling it “nothingness” doesn’t explain the activity we’re all witnessing.
Your worldview, James, blends ego‑death language, sensory deprivation effects, and personal trauma into an absolutist philosophy that isn’t true non‑duality but a personalized form of nihilism.
Tee’s question— “Who is engaging with us if not James?”—is the perfect way to expose the contradiction in your claims, because you insist the self doesn’t exist while actively arguing, warning, and choosing words. You will likely respond with phrases like “there is no doer,” which avoid the contradiction rather than resolve it.
A grounded reply should gently point out that even if the self is seen as an illusion, illusions still function, and someone—or some perspective—is clearly choosing to type, argue, and interpret experiences. This shifts the conversation from metaphysical proclamations to observable reality, where a meaningful dialogue can actually occur.
Anita
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