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anitaParticipantThis is all difficult stuff, Milda.. the Anger vs the Empathy.. The Love vs the Anger..
I wish I could be of some help to you.. however little.
The contrast between caring too much.. And the need to survive that too-much-caring..
You relate to what I am saying? (It’s okay if you don’t)
If you do relate, let me know. Let me help you best I can.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tom:
You posted the above on Oct 1, 10:19 am, Singapore time, right?
Only 25 min ago..
You’ll make it through, Tom. Try to make the best of it. Focus on the positives…And post here, anytime you feel like it. I am here!
πΏ π€ Anita (Sept 30, 7:44 pm here, U.S.)
anitaParticipantDear M:
Yes, I had a similar experience in that I had a complicated mother (who produced a complicated daughter π). Much of my life was Too much (and too little).
How long ago was your diagnosis.. How is your health now?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantYou are welcome, Jana, and thank you for stopping by this morning (here, U.S.), your afternoon (Czechia).
Good to read that you are feeling peaceful and calm, like autumn ππ»π
π€ back to you!
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
“So, she pushed the button in me by saying: ‘well we are not the center of the world, there are still ALIVE relatives.'”-
What if you answered her (in your mind, at the least): I AM ALIVE and I AM IN THE CENTER of this one world: MY OWN LIFE!
Neither you nor grandmother or any other living or dead relative deserve to be the center of my personal world!
It’s MINE, not YOURS!
I typed the above feeling angry. I mean, how dare she!
How does it feel to you, Milda.. my anger right above?
“Iβm so very lost and scared. Itβs devastating. π”- this is pain that was inflicted on you, wouldn’t be if you had parents who had mercy on you. Your pain is heartbreaking.
And it’s similar to the pain I carried with me most of my life.
You deserve healing, Milda. you deserve reclaiming center stage in your own life!
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear me:
It made me smile (my first smile of this Monday, feeling sad that the socially busy weekend is over) when I read about the good, playful times the two of you had, particularly when I imagined your eyes meeting through the holes in the box π
Thank you for sharing about these good times, good memories!
I am looking forward to reading from you again, another time, another thread.
Please take good care of yourself!
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
“their one sentence gets me into guilt and old behavior⦔- it took me 10+ years of no contact with my mother, more than 10 years of not hearing her voice irl.. to actually stop hearing her voice. More than a decade.
Her voice, shaming, guilt-tripping, so powerful in my psych.. a dominating, domineering voice. A cruel voice.
“their words hit me like a bullet”- I relate. Like a bullet.
I’ll write more in the morning.
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
You are very welcome, and thank you for your appreciation and kindness β€οΈ
As I was reading the second paragraph of your post right above, the image of a child touching a hot stove for the first time came to my mind. Developing the image: the kid didn’t know how it would feel to touch a hot stove until she touched it. She never thought about it, didn’t consider it. She touches it. Consequence: the alarming, painful sensation of burning. She moves her hand ASAP away from the stove. From then on, she remembers and doesn’t touch a stove until she makes sure it’s not hot.
Similarly, in the beginning, you didn’t know that saying “no” was.. like touching a hot stove, didn’t even cross your mind, so you said “no”. Consequence: the alarming, painful sensation of guilt and shame. (“when I had situations where I said ‘no’ and my parents guilt tripped me for that, said something shameful, insulting”)
From then on, you remember. You don’t say “no”, and you want to make sure the stove is not hot/ you make sure they’re not angry with you (“a signal: do something so they are not angry with you”).
The touching a hot stove story makes sense. It really is, objectively, dangerous to touch a hot stove and keep the hand there.
On the other hand, it is healthy and helpful to say “no” and set boundaries. But alas! The kid is punished for healthy behaviors, and the result: doing what’s healthy feels dangerous.What to do?
Maybe understand more, for one, how wrong it is for a parent to guilt trip and shame a child for something healthy. A post ago, you wrote: “I do not blame anyone”. For the purpose of healing, it might be helpful to assign blame where it clearly belongs.
Anger is a natural response to being wronged (guilt-tripped, shamed and insulted for healthy behaviors). Anger may give you the strength, or courage to reclaim your human right to say “no” and set healthy boundaries.
Not Anger Forever. Not explosive, or abusive anger. Just enough of it to counter the fear (“To start feeling scared and still act in a new healthy way.”), and to give the “bad” that they threw at you back to them (“I believe this is the biggest issue- that I feel scared, I feel a bad daughter (by my parents terms)”)
For the longest time, I had this core belief, set so early on by being repeatedly guilt-tripped, shamed and insulted by my mother, that I was a BAD daughter. For many years I tried so hard to become a good daughter (by my mother’s terms), but never accomplished that goal.
Fast forward, I handed her the BAD (in regard to the guilt-tripping and shaming), and the result: no more bad for me to carry (in regard to having been guilt-tripped and shamed by her). The bad is for the one inflicting shame to carry, not for the victim of the infliction to carry.
What do you think, Milda?
πΏ π€ Anita
anitaParticipantDear me:
You are making sense. You were clear in your first post here, Sept 20, which you ended with: “just wanted to post about it.”, and a week later (right above): “I… decided to post this connection here because itβs been a while since I posted.”
Like a person reading what seemed like the beginning of a romantic story, I got a bit invested in it, wanting there to be more, thinking it could make you happy.
Thank you, me, for being logical, realistic and strong!
I am looking forward to reading from you in a new thread. I will miss you!
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantThank you for being kind and gracious. I appreciate you, Going Through Life!
Please take all the time that you need to take.
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantDear me:
I think it doesn’t matter what this guy and that guy says about you and the Taiwanese woman. What matters is what you tell her and what she tells you in return- privately, just between you and her.
Tell her- privately- how you feel. Wait for her response.
I know it’s stressful, but IF you can handle this kind of distress, the unknowing, the anticipation- it’d be worth it.
Be honest and direct with her. What do you have to lose?
π€πΏ Anita
anitaParticipantRereading the above, Going Through Life, maybe I asked too many questions π..
September 27, 2025 at 11:24 am in reply to: Trying my best to get out my comfort zone but still am very lonely #450381
anitaParticipantDear MissLDutchess:
Indeed, adult life can feel lonely, childhood too. I know loneliness all too well.
It’s courageous of you to put yourself out there in new ways.
I hope that you soon feel like you do belong somewhere!
π Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tom:
You might enjoy Singapore Botanic Gardens (so I read), or St. John’s Island or Lazarus Island: accessible by ferry, these offshore escapes offer peaceful beaches and walking trails. Great for a day of solitude with the possibility of light interaction with fellow nature lovers.
You might enjoy quiet cafes, tucked-away cafΓ©s perfect for solo brunches or reading. Maybe The Book CafΓ© or Kreams Krafthouse for their cozy ambiance. (.. So, I read)- these are the things I would enjoy if I was there.
ποΈπ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
I imagine there’re news in regard to SS since you last posted. I wonder if you got together.. or if you got back together?
“she asked me if I want to get together, how will I ever trust again”- you asked her how you will ever trust her again, or did she ask you how she’d ever trust you again..? (not clear in the sentence).
“I was bullied and told I was ugly in my childhood, I inherently seek external validation through relationships and intimacy.”-
Ugly is primarily a behavior, as I see it. So those who said to you (a behavior) what they told you, they are the ones who were ugly at the time, weren’t they?
When you say that you seek validation in this context, you mean that you seek being told that you are handsome..?
Looking back a few posts ago, you wrote “I have started working on my health’- do you have physical health issues or concerns..?
π€πΏ Anita
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