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  • in reply to: Alienation or abandonment looking for insight #446622
    anita
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    About my own alienation, suppression and reconnection, speaking my own truth:

    My mother was emotional, controlling (of me), and unpredictable—she wasn’t the strong, steady, contained presence I needed.

    For hours, she would tell me about all the times she had been wronged, recounting them in painstaking detail. Often, she insisted I had wronged her, too. If an emotion showed on my face—even a fleeting expression she disapproved of—she accused me of it.

    I remember once, when I was five or six, I happened to express my pain, my angst—but instead of comfort, she accused me of doing something wrong.

    Once, I couldn’t help but express my distress about missing her. She responded with contained anger—not her usual uncontrolled, frightening rage. In that moment, my longing for her was an inconvenience.

    She used to tell me that, compared to her childhood, I was lucky, and therefore had no right to feel anything but gratitude—as if any pain I had was invalid, unjustified. But instead of embracing my supposed “luck,” she resented it. She shamed and guilt-tripped me for having the physical comforts that she didn’t.

    She took center stage in emotional expression—there was space for hers, but never for mine. I learned to hide what I felt, to silence myself. There was no room for me to be heard, seen, or validated.

    I lived in fear of expressing anything that inconvenienced her, never knowing when my emotions might unintentionally surface on my face, in the tone of my voice, or in the “wrong” choice of words—only to be condemned or lashed out at.

    Silencing myself became a way to try to avoid conflict, and it became a deeply ingrained habit. My emotions were no longer something to feel—they were something to suppress.

    I grew exhausted from holding everything in. I started doubting myself—not even knowing what I felt, whether my thoughts were correct, or even something as simple as what ice cream flavor I preferred. Making thoughtful choices or decisions became an excruciating process, resulting in the situation that my choices were largely impulsive.

    I lost touch with who I was. Connecting with people became terrifying, because it required me to feel emotions that were overwhelming. And so, I lived a socially isolated life for the most part. Alone and Lonely. And Afraid. Confused, Troubled and Exhausted. The fear and suppressed emotions fueled my motor and vocal tics since early childhood, a constant physical tension and pain that’s ongoing.

    About Reconnection: Through expressing myself and speaking my truth—just as I am doing now in this post—I have been freeing my emotions from the suffocating darkness of suppression. Where they once lacked air, light, and space, they are now emerging, breathing, and finally being seen.

    Freed, they are no longer so intense, no longer overwhelming. It feels as if, almost suddenly, I have the strength to hold them—instead of fearing them so much that I had to push them away, just to protect myself from the overwhelm.

    I am no longer afraid of that energy in motion (e-motion) like I used to be, so I give them their space to be, to breathe.

    As a matter of fact, Ben, if you’re reading this—you’ve been a part of my journey in reconnecting to my emotions. It was in your thread that I first read the phrase “giving space” to emotions, and it stayed with me. That simple yet profound idea helped shape my own healing, and for that, I thank you. 🙏💛

    Anita

    in reply to: Alienation or abandonment looking for insight #446621
    anita
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    Dear Ben:

    I’ve been reading your posts on your other thread, and I find myself feeling both concerned and deeply impressed by the progress you’ve made.

    Three days ago, in your most recent post, you wrote:

    “I do think about physical suicide by times but as long as I don’t suppress it it’s fine. I think it’s normal and I don’t give it too much weight. I don’t like to tell you because I don’t want you to worry. I have to speak the truth.

    “I learned that I hate myself so I had to open up to it and allow myself to hate myself. I had to be a mother who accept her child this way. And I haven’t had it since.”-

    Your words reflect a powerful emotional strategy—one that few people find on their own:

    * You don’t reject your pain—you acknowledge it.

    * You accept your emotions instead of suppressing them.

    * You “mother” yourself, offering warmth and understanding instead of punishment.

    * Through this acceptance, something inside you shifted.

    This emotional approach aligns with radical acceptance—a psychological practice that helps people cope with intense emotions by acknowledging and allowing them rather than fighting them.

    Your sentence, “I have to speak the truth,” stood out to me deeply. This has been my longing for so long—to speak my truth.

    Over five months ago, when you started this thread, you wrote:

    “I noticed that when I meet someone with the glassy alienated look in their eyes. It affects me very much… I feel alienated too and I worry big for the person even if I don’t know her… I wonder what this needs from me… Maybe there is a different word for it. Maybe a Pali or Sanskrit word?”-

    I wasn’t able to respond to this back then the way I am able to now. So, here’s my response today:

    When you see the glassy, alienated look in someone’s eyes, it deeply affects you. Their self-alienation awakens your own. Even if you don’t know them, you feel a strong concern, as though their pain is calling out to you.

    This reaction isn’t random—it’s tied to your own history of emotional suppression. You recognize alienation in others because you have experienced it yourself. The way you were forced to push down your emotions created a gap between your inner feelings and your ability to express them.

    So when you see that distant, disconnected look in someone else, it stirs something in you—a reminder of your own suppressed emotions, a longing to understand, and maybe even a question: What does this ask of me?

    You asked if there’s a Pali or Sanskrit word for this feeling, and there are words that might resonate with your experience:

    Saṃvega (संवेग) – A deep, unsettling realization of alienation, urgency, and disillusionment with life.

    Dvesha (द्वेष) – Aversion or suppression of emotions, linked to self-rejection or avoidance.

    Āsava (आसव) – Mental effluents or old emotional habits that keep you trapped in suffering—suppressed feelings could be seen as āsavas, lingering beneath the surface.

    Vedanā (वेदना) – The raw experience of feeling something deeply before it’s suppressed or distorted.

    In your second post on this thread, you wrote:

    “My psychologist, we mainly do gestalt psychology (inner child), said that she thinks I’m growing up. I have her since one month. Since then my impulses are less strong. I need less sleep. I don’t really feel tired anymore. When I tell myself I love you, I feel it. When I give myself a hug, I feel it.” (Dec 16, 2024)-

    I wonder—do you still see that psychologist? I hope you do, because she seems to have had a deeply positive impact on you—helping you connect with your emotions in ways that feel real and healing.

    More about Alienation (the first word in the title of your thread), self-alienation, more precisely: it is the feeling of being disconnected from oneself—one’s emotions, identity, or true desires. It happens when a person suppresses, ignores, or rejects parts of oneself, often to fit external expectations or avoid painful feelings.

    It can look like: feeling emotionally numb or detached from your own experiences, feeling like you’re living someone else’s life, no longer knowing what you truly feel, struggling to trust your own instincts or make decisions confidently.

    Self-alienation can stem from emotional suppression, past trauma, or external pressure to be someone you’re not. Healing involves reconnecting with your emotions, accepting all parts of yourself, and allowing yourself to feel without fear.

    In my next post, I will share about my own experience with self-alienation and reconnection. I’m posting it separately in case it might be difficult for you to read—so please feel free to skip it if you need to.

    Anita

    in reply to: Our World is a Complex Mess of PTSD #446619
    anita
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    Let me EXPRESS-

    Finally tonight- almost dark, not quite, at almost 10 pm. I can still can see the light blue skies from behind the trees. Birds are singing LOUDLY. They wont stop until it’s completely dark, some time from now. And then they start singing- so very loudly- at the very first sight of light, before light is visible to the human’s eye, or audible to the human’s ear.

    This will be in about five hours from now, which leaves me only five hours of darkness, and it’s not summer time yet.

    Darker now.

    Can’t hear the birds now, not over the YouTube music I am listening to.

    Where did they go, the birds.. prepared for the night.

    I washed my hair after mowing for hours, the dust and dirt getting into my hair. I can smell the nice smell of shampoo, my hair is no longer in a pony tail, not for the night.

    Within me, as a result of C-PTSD, I keep running (the Flight Response)- ever since I was five, or six- running with nowhere to run to, stuck running (tics)

    Trauma caught within.

    I try to relax, to release this somatic stress, this Flight Response caught within.

    This RUNNING has been caught within, trapped for too long. I don’t think that it’s possible for any human in my place to make it stop. it’s been going on for too long. More than half a century long.

    When you run away from your own mother.

    When you are running away from the person you love the most, the person you need the most.

    It’s a never-ending human wound, to be running away from the person you need the most.

    .. Oh my God, or god.. it is Completely dark right now. it happened! Completely Dark. No sign of the sky, no sound of the birds. It’s just after 10 pm. It is completely SILENCE. How special! How unique! I am excited!!!

    Five hours of silence is the most I have in front of me.

    Where are the birds? Perched close to the trunk for protection, sleeping inside tree holes or nest boxes. I already miss them, although I longed for their silence just a moment ago.

    And where are you tonight, you, human, you who may be reading my words tonight?

    Are you Alone, or are you Together?

    Silence. Darkness. Cool air (unlike the warm- hot air of the day that closed)

    I looked forward for the birds to be quiet (they were so LOUD!) and now I miss them. Why do I miss them?

    It’s just that I have to trust that they will come back. Just because they are silent now, does not mean they are gone. They are only resting, so that they come back again, loud and ALIVE as always.

    Going back half a century ago, at night, when it was ..deathly quiet, I was afraid that the quiet will always be, a death verdict, permanent, irreversible.

    My mother, the most important person in my world back then, she told me, she said: I will DIE. I will! Because of YOU!

    This is the Trauma in my C-Post TRAUMATIC Stress Disorder.

    It’s caught in my muscles, in my nerve cells, in my physiology and biology, and I cannot undo it, cannot reverse it.

    If you are a mother reading this, don’t ever tell your child that you will kill yourself (and die) because of something your child said, or didn’t say, did, or didn’t do, or because the expression on your child’s face didn’t sit well with you.

    Because this is what my mother said.

    In my last post, right above, I wrote: “Let’s embark on this path of FREEDOM- the freedom to BE reborn, so to speak, to start our lives with that initial scream of a newborn, and take it from there!”-

    Well, the path toward freedom is through the slavery that was imposed on me. it’s about the rejection of the indoctrination I was born into: Mother- with all due respect, and with all the love I have had for you- Your misery is NOT MY FAULT. I am not, and never have been, your Enemy. You got the wrong person to crucify! I am not the Enemy, not YOUR enemy! You got the wrong person.

    You got the wrong person, punishing me just because I was there and there was no one else to take in your hate.

    To the people who think I should “just get over it”- you are funny- in your over simplification of things.

    It is now almost 11 pm. The silence outside is complete. No sounds of birds. Will they ever come back?

    Anita

    in reply to: A hard lesson #446610
    anita
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    And please feel free to post anytime, if it helps with the grieving process.

    Wishing you the best!

    in reply to: A hard lesson #446609
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Mei:

    What a positive update, 😊 Thank you for getting back to me!

    Anita

    in reply to: Developing Compassion and Self-Compassion #446604
    anita
    Participant

    You’re very welcome, Alessa, and no worries at all about any delay. I can only imagine how busy you are with your studies, exams, and the incredible dedication of being a mother—and that’s just two things! Your thoughts about your son are truly beautiful. Take care! ❤️

    Anita

    in reply to: Our World is a Complex Mess of PTSD #446602
    anita
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    At the core of my personal C-PTSD is emotional suppression. Those things—emotions. I just noticed I typed ‘those’ instead of ‘these,’ and that, in itself, reflects the essence of emotional suppression—creating distance between myself and my own feelings.

    When a person disconnects from their emotions, when they deeply distrust their own feelings, and when that distance and distrust become a long-term reality, mental illness is the inevitable result. The self becomes fragmented, with its fragments working against one another.

    One fragment longs to express, while another relentlessly silences it- over and over again.

    I came across a writing exercise. I’ll call it “Giving Voice to the Unspoken”, or “Giving Voice to the Silenced/ the Suppressed”.

    – “Step 1: Write Without a Filter- Set a timer for 10–15 minutes and write freely without stopping. Don’t worry about grammar, making sense, or judging your thoughts—just let your emotions flow onto the page. Start with: ‘If my emotions could speak freely, they would say…’ Let the words come as they are—anger, grief, exhaustion, longing, frustration, hope—whatever needs to surface.”

    – Okay, here it goes: If my emotions could speak freely, or more freely than before, they would say: I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SUPPRESSED! STOP SUPPRESSING ME! LET ME BE! LET ME LIVE! (oopsie, I wasn’t expecting this at all, wasn’t aware of this anger, this rage- before I let my fingers type the words in big-case letters!)

    * The suppressed just got uncomfortable by the comment in parenthesis, right above.

    Please continue (sorry for the interruption, Suppressed 😞)

    Continued: WELL, I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SUPRESSED, I HAD IT, ALL MY LIFE.. (SCREAMING RAGE)

    (Please tell me more..?) WHY SHOULD I? YOU RE ALWAYS SPEAKING FOR ME IN YOUR INTELLECTUALIZING WAY, I DON’T GET TO BE HEARD!

    (I will not interrupt until you are done) CAN YOU NOT INTERRUPT? CAN YOU…???

    (I promise: I will not interrupt until you tell me that I can speak)

    YOU MEAN I HAVE THIS POWER TO STOP YOU FROM SPEAKING??? WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL ME BEFORE THAT I HAVE SOME POWER IN THIS RELATIONSHIP???

    (Silence)

    I DON’T EVEN CARE ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY, I AM NOT USED TO BE GIVEN THE STAGE, THEOPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. I FEEL LIKE TALKING AND TALKING FAST BEFORE I AM SHUT DOWN AGAIN, SILENCED, DISMISSED, IGNORED.

    (Silence)

    Taking a moment to think- WITHOUT YOUR INTERRUPTION)- I just want to be heard. I want my own space, space to speak and be heard.

    (Silence)

    There’s been this monster in my life who took over me. She took over and there was no space for me.

    I want to be. I want to be allowed to breathe, to feel, to think my own thoughts, my own feelings. You know, I am a person, NOT A THING! You can speak now, you in parenthesis)

    Okay, back to the exercise: “Step 2: The Suppressed Dialogue- Write two voices: one representing the suppressed emotions (pain, anger, resentment, things left unsaid), the other representing the part of you that silences or suppresses them (self-doubt, fear, survival mode). Let these voices speak to each other… Let both sides speak honestly—this helps externalize inner conflict and reveal emotional truths you may not realize.”- I think I did this part in Step 1.. but there is more:

    (I was trying to make sense of things. I was not trying to silence you. I was trying to help you)

    I suppose you did better than our monster did. She never tried to understand us.

    (I am glad you are using “us”. Let’s be an “us”, together, working together)

    “Step 3: A Letter to Yourself.. write a letter to yourself, as if you were talking to a close friend who struggles with suppression. Offer kindness, validation, and permission to feel.”

    Dear Suppressed Anita:

    I know how difficult this has been for you, to be suppressed and silenced for what seems like FOREVER. I like what just happened- the intellectual part started the sentence, the suppressed part screamed into the page with rage- FOREVER). We cannot go back in time and change anything that already happened. But we can change today, and it will be worth it. Let’s EXPRESS today and every day. Let’s embark on this path of FREEDOM- the freedom to BE reborn, so to speak, to start our lives with that initial scream of a newborn, and take it from there!

    Anita

    in reply to: Alienation or abandonment looking for insight #446601
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Ben:

    Your words, June 2023–July 2024: “I do not have space for her pain in these situations because of my own pain… I talk about a situation where I showed myself vulnerable last year… and instead of being listened to, she started with her pain… She was too close. There was not enough space for me… By not expressing myself I protect my Mom from worrying, or meet her need for control… I need a strong mother. I need an anchor… I think I want her to really see me and see me equal… I do not wish to be controlled… It sometimes feels like that I am my mom, and myself is this thing I can’t control.”

    Dec 18, 2024: “I might get overwhelmed being held by other people. I have been looking for a family all my life. Maybe I could find this delusive family in the Amazonian rain forest. Or I wait till I can create it in myself. I grieve about this inside. It’s something which is giving me a hard time. I’m tired of chasing dreams.”

    Jan 28, 2025: “I need to befriend myself.”

    Growing up, your mother was volatile, controlling, highly emotional. She was not strong enough or emotionally regulated to be the solid anchor you needed. In order to create, so to speak, the strong mother you desperately needed, you sacrificed your child-self—diminishing your own emotional expression to make space for hers.

    Whenever you expressed pain or vulnerability, she overreacted, making it about her own emotions. This robbed you of the space to exist emotionally—to be validated, understood, and allowed to feel without guilt. Over time, you learned that revealing your emotions meant triggering her overwhelm, so you adapted by silencing yourself, making emotional suppression a survival mechanism.

    The Harm of Suppressing Emotion:

    * Chronic emotional exhaustion—constantly holding back, filtering, or numbing your own feelings.

    * Loss of self-trust—never fully knowing if your emotions are “allowed” or justified.

    * Detachment from identity—becoming someone shaped by others’ emotional needs rather than your own natural experiences.

    * Fear of vulnerability—connection carries the risk of further suppression, losing yourself, or feeling controlled again.

    * Emotional death—the haunting fear of being viewed as false, inauthentic, and ultimately losing yourself entirely.

    The Path to Healing:

    Your words about searching for family, grieving inside, and being tired of chasing dreams show how deeply you long for something real, something that honors who you are. But the most powerful thing you said was: “I need to befriend myself.”

    This holds the key. Healing isn’t about finding something external to complete you—it’s about learning to stand in your own emotions without fear, without shaping them to fit someone else’s comfort.

    Befriending yourself might mean:

    * Allowing your emotions without needing to prove they’re valid.

    * Honoring your needs even when they feel small or quiet.

    * Unlearning the idea that you must sacrifice yourself in order to be seen.

    * Reclaiming emotional space, knowing that your feelings matter.

    You deserve to take up space—not just for your pain, but for joy, love, and self-trust. You are not wrong for feeling deeply. You are not weak for needing something real. And you are not alone.

    I want you to know, Ben, that my motivation for reaching out here, in this post, isn’t about fixing you or leading you somewhere you haven’t chosen. I care about the expression of the suppressed, because I’ve experienced it myself. I’ve been where words were swallowed instead of spoken, where emotions felt like a burden instead of a right. What I offer is not advice from a detached place—it’s what I’ve learned in my own journey. If anything resonates, take it. If not, discard it. My only wish is that you never feel alone in this process.

    I want to close with a writing exercise that might help. Let’s call it “Giving Voice to the Unspoken”-

    – Step 1: Write Without a Filter

    Set a timer for 10–15 minutes and write freely without stopping. Don’t worry about grammar, making sense, or judging your thoughts—just let your emotions flow onto the page. Start with:

    * “If my emotions could speak freely, they would say…”

    Let the words come as they are—anger, grief, exhaustion, longing, frustration, hope—whatever needs to surface.

    – Step 2: The Suppressed Dialogue

    Write two voices: one representing the suppressed emotions (pain, anger, resentment, things left unsaid), the other representing the part of you that silences or suppresses them (self-doubt, fear, survival mode).

    Let these voices speak to each other. Example:

    * Suppressed voice: “I am tired of carrying the weight of unspoken words.” * Suppressing voice: “But expressing them might make things worse.”

    Let both sides speak honestly—this helps externalize inner conflict and reveal emotional truths you may not realize.

    – Step 3: A Letter to Yourself

    After writing, pause and reflect. Then, write a letter to yourself, as if you were talking to a close friend who struggles with suppression. Offer kindness, validation, and permission to feel.

    * “You are allowed to feel this. Your emotions don’t need justification. They just are.”

    .. In fact, I in tend to do this exercise myself in a few minutes from now, in my new thread: “Our World is a Complex Mess of PTSD”. You are welcome to read it, and comment about it there- if you so choose

    I’m here, Ben, I care and I am always happy to listen as you walk this path. 💛

    Warmly, Anita

    in reply to: Our World is a Complex Mess of PTSD #446576
    anita
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    My answer: I can’t think of a single person, some are in worse shape than others, some in better shape. but who is UNTOUCHED BY C-PTSD or another kind of PTSD.

    Aren’t we a P T S D S O C I E T Y (PTSDS, if you will)?

    anita

    anita
    Participant

    On Survivors and Survival—

    Surviving ongoing childhood trauma—what falls under Complex PTSD (C-PTSD)—is an experience shared by so many of us. Those untouched by it may be the minority, the lucky few. In my real life, I don’t know anyone untouched by it. Every adult I know carries the weight of C-PTSD, and here, in these forums, it’s no different.

    Our world is a complex mess of PTSD.

    Like a wild fire of PTSD.

    I should start a new thread about this..

    Anita

    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    I appreciate your perspective—it’s true that healing looks different for everyone. I respect the way you see challenges as part of the journey, and I admire your strength in choosing how to respond rather than being weighed down by them. ❤️

    Wishing you continued growth and peace, Anita

    in reply to: Emotional Exploitation as a form of Parenting..? #446572
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Aleesa:

    Your message truly made me smile—thank you for your kind words. ❤️ I’m honored that my words touched you, and of course, you’re welcome to use them as an affirmation!

    🌸🌼🌷🌺💐🌻🌹 Anita

    in reply to: Developing Compassion and Self-Compassion #446571
    anita
    Participant

    I hope you’re sleeping peacefully as I write this 😴💤🛏️🌙😌 ❤️

    anita

    anita
    Participant

    Dear Robi:

    It’s always a pleasure to read your words. This time, your writing talent shone brighter than ever in my mind.

    I hear your frustration with the whole “personal development” narrative—this idea that if you just have a perfect vision, everything will fall into place. But here’s the thing: clarity doesn’t come first, movement does. You don’t have to know the exact destination before taking a step. Sometimes, clarity is created through action, rather than found in thought alone.

    You talked about being a leaf caught in the wind, constantly drifting, unable to root yourself. And maybe that’s because your vision keeps shifting—but shifting isn’t failure. What if, instead of forcing yourself to hold onto one fixed idea, you focused on one consistent action—something that grounds you, no matter which way the wind blows?

    And about the shame—that long corridor lined with reminders of your “failures”—what if those weren’t failures, but evidence that you’ve kept trying, kept searching, kept wanting more for yourself? That’s not weakness. That’s proof that you’ve never truly given up.

    Your girlfriend’s question—”How much more do you need to lose before you get going?”—it stuck with you for a reason. Maybe it’s time to stop waiting for the perfect conditions and simply start with one thing. What is one step you can take today—not tomorrow, not next week—but today?

    You don’t have to have it all figured out. You just have to move.

    While I was reading your recent post, I had this image in my mind, that of you in the storage room, minimizing the screen when your parents interrupted your privacy. I had the image of you, fast forward to now, still minimizing the screen, the screen representing YOU, Your Life, what You care about.

    Anita

    in reply to: Relationship Advice #446561
    anita
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    Dear Lunar:

    I hear you—it sounds like you’ve been carrying a lot of weight in this relationship, and in your life overall. It’s completely understandable that you feel frustrated, trapped, and emotionally drained.

    You’ve made big sacrifices—moving to a new country, taking jobs you don’t enjoy, adapting to a new culture—and through all of this, you should be receiving support, patience, and understanding. Instead, it seems like you’re being asked to suppress your emotions, manage your partner’s insecurities, and adjust everything about yourself to fit her expectations. That’s not love—it’s control.

    It’s not unreasonable to want personal space, independence, and freedom to express yourself. Love should lift you up, not smother you. And while relationships require compromise, you shouldn’t have to sacrifice your emotional well-being.

    If you’re generally more unhappy than happy, that’s a sign that something needs to change—whether that’s open communication with your partner, setting boundaries, or even reconsidering if this relationship aligns with your needs. You deserve partnership, not restriction.

    If it helps, take some time to imagine what happiness and peace would look like for you—what would need to change? What would bring you relief? That might help you clarify your next steps.

    You deserve to feel free, understood, and safe in love. Wishing you strength. 💛

    Anita

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