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anitaParticipantWait, it’s the SAME vomit face, right above.
This is the 2nd vomit face that showed up 🤢
Alright, enough 🍷 4 me. 🤔
anitaParticipantIt’s time for the night🌙 Owl 🦉 to go to bed. Good 🌃 Confused. No, haven’t been at the taproom. It closed for good last Friday (4 nights ago). Had some 🍷 at home.
By the way, you first posted here on Dec 19, page 13- 65 pages of just you and I talking.
* Sadly, I lost my beloved vomit face for no apparent reason, and this one showed up instead 🤢. Not the same.
🦉🍷🌙 Anita
anitaParticipantYes, it’s a vomit emoji, the green face is holding in the vomit. Not related to our current conversation, just think it’s cute. Ha- ha..?
anitaParticipantHey Night Owl 🦉 Confused:
I pray 🙏 to God every day: rationally I don’t believe in God, but emotionally I have to.
I am imagining right now the two of you living together: three rooms are needed: one that’s your private room, another that’s her private room, and a third where the two of you meet.
No, no, too many rooms. Only 2 are needed: one for when the 2 of U spend nights together and another room for when either one of you needs alone time.
Then a kitchen and a living room.
Or, if you can’t afford a kitchen+ 3 rooms, then there need to be a sign that says NITM2T2A (not in the mood to talk to anyone). Abbreviated: NA.
There can be simple solutions to complex problems depending on budget
🤔 🤢 🙂 Anita
anitaParticipant* You mentioned fawning…
anitaParticipantA minute at a time is a good beginning.
“In the beginning” are the first words of the Bible (Genesis), and paraphrased, it says: In the beginning the earth was a mess with darkness over the earth .. and then God separated the sky from the ground, day from night, etc.
It took god step by step to organize the mess, so, yes, start with a minute 🙂
You .e tinned fawning in the message before last and in this message you mentioned having a really hard time setting boundaries and asking for space.
That’s something perhaps to talk about in therapy?
Hmm, if you feel like you can’t set boundaries with her- that’s scary, isn’t it? Like you’re in danger of your personal space being invaded by her?
🤔 🤢 🦉 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I heard things about reddit. It’s safer ( and a much, much smaller place here). Glad you’ll stick around a little longer 😃
It would be W.O.N.D.E.R.F.U.L if you get into the habit of Noticing a feeling & Letting go (instead of Analyzing) 🙏
About the Nov arguments- the two of you come across to me as honest and caring, decent people. No abuse on her part or yours.
About the conversation you had with her today.. she’s becoming more and more of a woman I really wish 🤞 you could love and live with (sort of) happily ever after.
The two of you- in my mind- are adorable!
“Anita, what is happening with me?”- maybe you are feeling how close THIS is to your life changing (living with her as your lifetime partner), more than you ever felt with anyone else, and that’s what scares 😱 you.
🤔 🇬🇷 🤍🇨🇾 🤍 🇬🇷 🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Peter:
“I still need to work on that”- on being you or on being silly?
I don’t remember Peter being silly 🤔
Thank you so much for telling me that you think it’s great that I can express myself as I did. I was a bit afraid that you’d think otherwise.
Really? It’s really what you think? (no need to answer, of course you mean what you say. I know you well enough to know that you are.. religiously 😉 honest)
It’s just that it’s hard for me to believe that how I spontaneously express myself is truly okay with another person.
“Between ‘Egypt’ and ‘Promise land’ lies the wilderness”- the wilderness here is me being silly and then a bit anxious about whether it (my silliness/ spontaniety) was received or rejected.
I am curious if your religious background is Catholic or Methodist (two possibilities that come to my mind). I don’t expect an answer. It’s perfectly okay with me that you don’t answer any question you’re uncomfortable with or if you just don’t feel like answering.
The value in my asking may be just to share with you what crosses my mind.
“Whatever you lose, you’ve won”- winning distance from ‘Egypt’ and getting closer to the ‘Promise land’- within my own mind, mentally and socially?
If I remember correctly, the Jews in the desert 🏜 never got to enter the promised land (I didn’t get a chance to look it up, having a limited use of the computer).
🤔 🎶 🏜 Anita
anitaParticipantHmm.. therapist told you to reduce activity here? (I miss you already 😔)
To Notice a feeling and leave it there, to not analyze it further is a great suggestion or recommendation. Can you make it happen?
What happened in that “first big argument on November”? Can you present it to me as:
She: “…..”, You: “…..”, she: “…”, etc. Paraphrased, if you don’t remember the exact words?
🤢 (I’m “in love” with this emoji.. does it make me weird, ha-ha.. ha?) Anita
anitaParticipantGood 🌄 Peter:
In the past, I would feel embarrassed for having submitted an emotional, silly message like the one I submitted at 9:12 pm last night (my time).
But this morning I felt embarrassed by the dry, clinical, emotionally- detached posts I had submitted so often over the years (you can look at my first response today to “A”, a 9 years ago thread in which you posted as well).
But now, although the faint taste of embarrassment is still in my mouth (for the dry-clinical post to A, and for the silly-emotional post to you last night), I feel almost okay with both.
For the post 9 years ago- because I didn’t know better. THAT was my best at the time.
And for the post I submitted to you 13+ hours ago- because it is better. Emotions are okay. Emotions are welcomed.
I no longer need to suffocate, flatten.. suppress them under a cover of clinical, dry analysis (which is what I did as a child, surviving a highly chaotic, out of control, scary emotionality dished out by my mother).
The thought that last night’s post (and similar ones I submitted to you before) are unwelcome, or makes you cringe- crossed my mind. If this is the case, please tell me and I won’t post such in any of your threads anymore.
Our emotional languages are changing over the years.
Looking at your reply to A 9 years ago, you wrote that following an ex’s decision to end contact with you, it “Hurt” (your word, big-case letter, H- a direct expression). That was simple and direct. But that was a 1 2 1 exchange, not a literary piece directed at an audience (I hope you submit these pieces in other, more popular websites where they can be read by more people)
I still want to process your last 2 amazing posts a bit later.
🎶 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHello 👋 A
I read through our communication above, 9+ years ago, and realized how un-attuned I was to you, particularly in my first reply (didn’t do much better in the following three).
What you described was a very deep emotional connection that you had with this man, and you were deeply grieving the separation. I responded not with attunement, but with dry analysis.
You needed to be witnessed, to be seen. You needed your emotions to be mirrored back to you and validated (saying something like: ‘I can see how deeply you feel about him and how much it hurts’)- not to be analyzed, at least not right away (if at all).
First, you needed attunement, empathy, understanding of yourself as a person (not as a case study 😔)
And worse: in my first dry-cold analysis reply, I came across (I see it now, looking back) as suggesting that you weren’t with him long- enough to expect commitment, and that you were not patient enough with him (which was not true).
Overall, my tone was clinical while yours was emotional and even spiritual. A mismatch.
I suppose it’s a good thing that I forgot to get back to you in “ten, twelve hours or so” back in March 2017 and it’s a good thing you didn’t remind me of that.
Following my last reply to you, I continued to be analytical and clinical in many of my replies to members over the years, and it is only recently that I’ve become aware of it.
I doubt you’re reading this after all these years. It’d be a miracle, really, if you do and if you’ll get back to me.
✨️ Anita
April 13, 2026 at 9:27 pm in reply to: On Purpise and Shame- what is my purpose? What is yours? #456926
anitaParticipantOn purpise, distilled: it’s about feeling good. Feeling alive ✨️ in a good, uplifting way. Like what I feel right now, and it being okay: not being afraid that me having fun is upsetting someone else.
It feels good to feel good. It really does
I was not permitted 2 feel good growing up (in). My mother didn’t allow it. She demanded that I feel B.A.D.
And now, half a century+ later, I feel very good (🍷 is involved), it’s so good to.. feel good.
🤔 🍷 🎶 Anita
anitaParticipantPeter: “The land ahead can only be entered by those who no longer define it, only to dwell within it”-
Dwelling within it can be facilitated by 🎶 and words that go with the music
Listening now: “Nothing compares, NOTHING COMPRES 2 U”
Wondering what’s your music, Peter, the music you listen to late at night 🌙 – if you do.
Not defining at the moment, but dwelling, facilitated by music:”It’s never as good as the first time. Never as good as the first time…”
“Nothing can come, nothing can come between us… In the middle of the madness, hold on.. It’s about faith. It’s about trust”
“I don’t have to look no more.. girl, I just can’t live without you.. ”
(red 🍷 involved here, Peter. It facilitates the dwelling.)
You mentioned Moses. Do you know his Hebrew name? It’s “Mo’she” (emphasis on last syllable). You mentioned Egypt. In Hebrew, it’s “Mitz-rah-im”. I miss Hebrew
Oh, and “Sabath”- it’s really “Sha- baat” (emphasis on the last syllable)
🎶 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dopamine Deprived (DD) Confused:
The empty and pointless feelings- don’t push them away, don’t fight them.. breathe them in. There’s a possible transformation in doing just that.
🤢 => 🙂 Anita
anitaParticipantNeed to come back to this within the next few days
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