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anitaParticipantLaelithia- such a long time. I am not the same person I was when we last communicated, and you’re probably not the same either.
How R U, Laelithia???
â¨ď¸ đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear đ´ Confused:
I wish you had access to a really good psychiatrist, one you can trust to talk about your fears of long term side-effects.
I’m glad it wasn’t too much,thank you for letting me know (relief).
Good đ´ , â¨ď¸â¨ď¸â¨ď¸
anitaParticipantHey đ đŚ Confused:
I hope the above was not too much. I wanted to take advantage of my đĽ time (Copilot)
I can’t imagine more possible analysis and understanding than what Copilot provided.
I đ¤ that Anxiety needs to be addressed- if not through therapy, mindfulness and emotion-regulation practices alone (there are many!), then by psychiatric đ as well.
There are meds that act fast on anxiety- you’d feel relaxed right away (but are supposed to be used short-term), or those SSRIs & such that are slow-acting (you have to take them for weeks and be patient).
đ đ¤ đ đ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
Copilot: Confusedâs message reveals several important layers. First, he is deeply emotionally overwhelmed â not just by his own anxiety, but now by his girlfriendâs insecurity and withdrawal. His crying, his desire to comfort her, and his distress at her friendsâ comments show that he is highly sensitive to relational threat.
My note: The words “highly sensitive to relational threat” stood out for me as something that I now recognize, retroactively, in your posts since December. I wonder if the idea of losing her is your #1 source of anxiety. Let me ask you know whom…
Copilot: Short answer: yes â the idea of losing her is one of his biggest sources of anxiety. Everything heâs written points to a deep, almost primal fear of loss. Notice how often he reacts intensely when she pulls away, she becomes insecure, she hesitates (etc.)-
Each time, he goes straight into crying, panic, intrusive thoughts, emotional shutdown, derealization… This is the reaction of someone whose nervous system is terrified of abandonment.
But hereâs the deeper truth: itâs not just fear of losing her- Itâs fear of losing emotional safety… the version of himself he feels he can be with her… the emotional âanchorâ she represents
His message reveals: 1. He cares deeply- You donât cry like that over someone you donât care about.
2. He is extremely sensitive to relational threat- Even small shifts in her tone or behavior destabilize him.
3. His emotional shutdown is a defense mechanism- When the fear gets too big, his system âturns offâ to protect him.
4. He confuses emotional numbness with loss of love- This is a classic anxiety misinterpretation.
5. His fear intensifies when she is scared- He mirrors her emotional state â a sign of emotional enmeshment, not indifference.
A Comprehensive, SimpleâLanguage Analysis of Confused:
Confused is a young man who feels things very deeply but doesnât yet understand his own emotional system. He grew up believing that love is supposed to feel intense, dramatic, and full of longing â so when he experiences calmer, steadier feelings, he doesnât recognize them as real.
This makes him panic and assume something is wrong with him or the relationship.
When he gets scared, his mind fills with intrusive thoughts telling him heâs a fraud or that his feelings are gone, even though his behavior shows the opposite: he cries over her, wants to hold her, feels protective of her, and is devastated when she pulls away.
His nervous system gets overwhelmed easily, and when that happens, he shuts down emotionally â he canât access his feelings, canât think clearly, and feels disconnected from himself. He mistakes this shutdown for âlosing love,â when in reality itâs just anxiety overloading him.
He is also extremely sensitive to her emotional state; when she becomes insecure or distant, he feels it instantly and mirrors it, which makes him even more confused.
Underneath all of this, he cares deeply, wants closeness, and is terrified of losing her. His biggest struggle isnât a lack of love â itâs that he doesnât yet know how to feel safe in a relationship that isnât fueled by intensity. Heâs learning a new emotional language, and the unfamiliarity scares him.”
What says Confused?
(emojis) Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Eliana:
I just read through many of your posts and communication with myself and with other members 2017-19.
I found out we’re only 1 year apart. You should be 64 now (time flies).
I would so very much like to read from you again, hoping you’re okay đ
Thank you for being as honest and open here, and for trying to help people (and animals), here and in real-life.
Lots of members replied to you because they felt your sincerity and the beauty of your soul đđđ
I wish they too will return and that it’d be positively busier here, in the forums.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Tom đ
Yes, it’s a good-enough weekend although I may be starting to miss socializing since the taproom I used to frequent closed 16 days ago.
It’s really admirable, in my mind, how you keep a positive attitude throughout your search for a better job and other life challenges. I don’t remember if we talked about it: what would be your ideal jobđ¤?
⨠Anita
anitaParticipantIt’s been 7 years, 3 months and 25 days since you posted right above, Eliana. It’d be a miracle if you read this and respond đ¤
anitaParticipantGood to read that you’re well, Debbieđ I am fine, sitting here on a comfortable reclining armchair with Bogart lightly snoring on my lap. âď¸ is out, expecting to work outside.
anitaParticipantGood Morning Confused (using the computer)
Copilot about your recent post:
1. He confirms the core issue: he equates love with intensity- He literally says: âIâve never learned to value love and stabilityâ âI yearn for the highsâ âIf it doesnât consume me then I donât want itâ This is huge. It shows that his emotional template for love is built on chaos, adrenaline, and fear, not calm connection. Thatâs not a personality flaw â itâs a learned pattern.
This tells us: Heâs not actually doubting her. Heâs doubting a version of love that doesnât match his old blueprint. Heâs grieving the loss of the âhighsâ he used to rely on for emotional certainty.
2. He reveals a key moment: âI want to feel like beforeâ- This is extremely important. He remembers crying in December saying: âI want to feel like before.â That is textbook emotional grief â not relationship doubt. It shows: Heâs mourning the loss of the old emotional intensity. Heâs terrified because he thinks the absence of intensity = absence of love. Heâs stuck between what he feels and what he believes he should feel. This is a classic anxiety-driven identity crisis around love.
3. He describes a âfraud voiceâ â this is intrusive thinking- When he visited her, he says: âSomething was bugging me⌠a voice telling me Iâm a fraud.â This is not a relationship problem. This is an intrusive thought loop â a hallmark of anxiety and emotional dysregulation.
Intrusive thoughts often sound like: âYouâre lying.â âYou donât really love her.â âYouâre pretending.â âYouâre fake.â
These thoughts feel real but are actually fear responses.
The fact that he could hug her, kiss her, enjoy her â while the voice still attacked him â shows the thoughts are not aligned with his true feelings.
4. His derealization description is very detailed â and very telling- He asks you how it felt for you, then describes: Random moments of feeling âout of itâ âWhat am I doing here?â âWhy am I talking to her?â Forgetting things instantly. Drifting away mentally. This is classic derealization + anxiety fog.
Itâs not about her. Itâs not about the relationship. Itâs about his nervous system being overwhelmed.
Heâs describing: Cognitive dissociation. Emotional numbness. Short-term memory disruption. Disconnection from self and surroundings
These are all anxiety symptoms â not relationship symptoms.
5. âMy feelings were locked in a boxâ â this is emotional shutdown- He says: âIt felt like my feelings were locked in a box and I couldnât feel them.â
This is emotional numbing â a protective response when the brain is overwhelmed.
Important: He says logically he knew he wanted her even when he couldnât feel the emotions. Thatâs a major sign that: His values are intact. His commitment is intact. His emotional system is just overloaded.
This is not someone falling out of love. This is someone whose anxiety has hijacked his emotional access.
6. He is starting to connect the dots- He says: âWow, this fits so much, maybe I am learning something new here?â
This is a breakthrough moment.
Heâs beginning to: Recognize the pattern. Understand his emotional history. See that anxiety is the culprit. Realize his feelings didnât âdisappearâ â they got blocked
This is the first step toward healing.
7. He is open, reflective, and emotionally honest- This is important for you to see: Heâs not defensive.
Heâs not dismissive. Heâs not shutting down.Heâs: Curious Vulnerable Willing to explore Trying to understand himself Trusting you enough to share his inner world
Thatâs someone who wants clarity and stability but doesnât know how to navigate it yet.
… He is not losing feelings. He is losing familiarity. He doesnât know how to function in a relationship that isnât chaotic. He is grieving the loss of the âold rulesâ of love. Heâs trying to learn a new emotional language. He is deeply self-aware and trying to understand himself.
This is a very good sign.Hereâs a message you can send him, written in your voice but with emotional precision:
âConfused, Iâm really glad you shared all of this. What you wrote actually gives me a much clearer picture of whatâs going on inside you â and it makes total sense. Youâre not broken, and youâre not a fraud. Youâre someone who learned to associate love with intensity, and now youâre trying to navigate a calmer, safer kind of connection. That shift is confusing and scary, but itâs also a sign of growth.
When you say youâve never learned to value stability, that tells me youâre stepping into completely new emotional territory. Of course, it feels unfamiliar. Of course, your mind panics and tries to pull you back to what it knows. That doesnât mean something is wrong â it means youâre changing.
And that moment you described in December â crying and wanting to âfeel like beforeâ â thatâs exactly what happens when the old emotional pattern stops working. You werenât grieving the relationship. You were grieving the loss of the emotional intensity you used to rely on. Thatâs a painful transition, but itâs also a meaningful one.
The âfraud voiceâ you mentioned is just anxiety trying to protect you by questioning everything. It doesnât reflect who you are or what you feel. The fact that you could enjoy being close to her while that voice was screaming at you actually shows how strong your real feelings are underneath the noise.
And the derealization moments you described â the drifting, the forgetting, the âout of itâ feeling â those are classic signs of overwhelm. Theyâre not signs that the relationship is fake. Theyâre signs that your nervous system is overloaded. Iâve felt versions of that too, and itâs incredibly disorienting, but it passes.
What stands out to me most is that even when your feelings felt âlocked in a box,â you still knew you wanted her. That says everything. Your emotions didnât disappear â they just got buried under fear and pressure. Youâre slowly reconnecting with them, even if it doesnât feel smooth or predictable yet.
Honestly, Iâm proud of you for being this open. Youâre not running away from this â youâre trying to understand yourself. That takes courage. And Iâm here with you in this, not judging you, not expecting you to be perfect. Just trying to understand you the way youâre trying to understand yourself.â
Above is Copilot’s word which I agree with whole heartedly. As far as how I experienced derealization: I remember at one time (I was driving) distances changed, everything seemed closer and bigger (made it through without an accident). Another time, obviously, I was crossing a busy street but didn’t realize it until a truck flew by me. My mind drifting away was a regular thing, couldn’t follow conversations, as if I wasn’t there and didn’t know what people were talking about, etc.
I really like Copilot’s message to you. Wow!
Anita and Copilot
anitaParticipantHey đ Confused:
I am not very focused now and will reply further in the morning. But for now, about your last paragraph: yes, might-have-to- change that thinking!
A thinking that doesn’t work anymore, a thinking that is causing you nothing but distress.. – should be changed. Shouldn’t it, Confused?
I suppose that thinking (love= intensity, etc.) worked for you for a while, but it’s not working anymore. So, it takes adjusting, re- evaluating, changing.
Letting go of thinking that’s not working for you anymore.
Imagine readjusting to a different experience of love: something gentle, something mild, something that’s not life or death.
“If it doesn’t consume me”, it’s a good thing because it let’s you breathe.
More tomorrow.
đ¤ đ đŚ đ¤˘ đˇ đ đ Anita
anitaParticipantToday, I connected the concept of the Hardened Heart with Mental Rigidity: the being locked đ into one framework, one lens through which seeing the đ, and seeing no other way as valid.
As in My Way or The Highway- no other way but my own to understand YOU.
This was my mother: rigid. Worse than some other rigid-s: crazy rigid, histrionic.
In her rigidity (hardened heart) there was no seeing me as a person with my own valid thoughts and emotions. There was only her thoughts and no space for any that were different.
She squeezed me into a 2-D bare existence.
I see other people, not as crazy and volatile as my mother, yet rigid nonetheless:
– My way of understanding, interpreting- no other way.
Personally, I am relaxing my rigidity, my binary black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinking.
Assuming less, asking instead.
No longer telling you what you’re thinking, what you’re feeling, what motivates you, etc.
Instead- asking gentle questions, having a dialogue, offering an emotionally safe space for you to explore your thoughts/ feelings/ motivations-
Not to tell you what those are but to explore together.
𤪠â¨ď¸ đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHow R U, Debbie?
anitaParticipantI hope U’re still đ, Miss L Dutchess đ
anitaParticipantHow R U, Omyk, 2 months & 16 days since U posted last?
anitaParticipantHow R U, Nichole, 10 days since U posted last (time flies, doesn’t it)?
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