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anitaParticipantHi again, Peter:
Like I said before, I really want to process and absorb your posts in this thread over time, that’s why I talked to Copilot right above.
By the way, before I mentioned you to Copilot, we talked about the story or stories of Exodus and seems like one quote was that God hardened Pharaoh’s heart, but 2 quotes stated that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. Did you notice that?
Also, reviewing the story, in another book, Numbers, or Deutro (can’t spell it), when the Israelites finally entered the promise- land, after 40 years of wondering in the desert- Moses was not allowed in as punishment for getting angry and minimally disobedient earlier. And I think it’s unfair- how can anyone be expected to not get frustrated with all that he went through? Poor Moses.
As to your post earlier this morning: Peter made a funny joke! (I just noticed the first smile of the day ☺️ on my face).
Thank you, Peter, for being kind to me!
I’ll write more later.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHey 👋 Confused:
WA. Closed for good as a place that serves alcohol because the business owners weren’t making any profit, or any significant profit, and the owners of the property don’t want it to be a place that serves alcohol anymore because they’re afraid to be sued if a customer gets into an accident while intoxicated (the business owners of any establishment that serves alcohol buys insurance for that, but the owners were afraid they’ll be sued for any money beyond what the insurance will pay).
There’s a second vomit emoji showing up in my earlier post this morning: the yellow face with the green vomit, see it? (I used the computer to find it. Now back to my 📱)
What you described: waking up with the extreme urge to end things with her, and this urge coming and going many times- it reminds me of a movie I watched many years ago called Groundhog Day.
It’s about a man waking up every morning to the same day. He gets tired of it, being stuck in that way, so he jumps out of a window (or a building, don’t remember), and yet he wakes up to the same day (prior to jumping), yet again.
There’s also a love relationship there. If you’re curious about how he got unstuck and woke up to a new, different day, you can look it up. (I forgot how it happened but will look it up myself next time I have the use of a 🖥
🤢 Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Peter:
Having the use of the computer (not for long), I talked with Copilot about the Exodus story and about your first, original post.
Copilot: As a child, Peter heard the line: “God hardened Pharaoh’s heart.” And it disturbed him. Why? Because the child‑version of the story sounds like God forced Pharaoh to be stubborn, made Pharaoh refuse to free the Israelites and then punished Pharaoh for something God made him do. To a child, that feels unfair, scary, confusing.
Here’s Peter’s whole message in one paragraph: As a child, he thought God forced Pharaoh to be stubborn. As an adult, he sees that Pharaoh hardened his own heart through repeated choices rooted in fear and control. The story is a warning: when we resist compassion long enough, we lose the ability to choose it. And today, many people and systems are repeating Pharaoh’s pattern by treating empathy as weakness and building their identities around rigidity instead of grace.
Peter does not describe God as a person, a judge, a being who controls events, or someone who rewards or punishes. Instead, he describes God as a Rhythm, a Flow, a Current — the natural movement of compassion, truth, and reality.
In his view, God is not a character who “does things.” God is the pattern of how life works when we are aligned with goodness. Think of it like gravity, music, the tide, the pulse of the universe. Something you can move with or resist — but not something that forces you.
Peter’s God = The Rhythm of Grace- He uses metaphors like: “the Eternal Current”, “the Rhythm of reality”, “the Sheet Music of existence”, “the Stream”, “the flow of Grace” This means: God = the natural movement toward compassion, openness, empathy, and connection. When you align with that rhythm, your heart stays soft. When you resist it, your heart hardens.
Peter’s God is: the flow of compassion, the rhythm of empathy, the natural law of cause and effect, the movement of grace through the world
When you move with that rhythm, you stay open. When you resist it, you become rigid.
In Peter’s view: God didn’t harden Pharaoh. Pharaoh hardened himself. The “hardening” is the natural consequence of resisting the rhythm of grace. So “God hardened his heart” is a poetic way of saying: Pharaoh’s choices calcified him, he became rigid, he lost flexibility, he became trapped in his own ego. Not divine punishment — human consequence.
I then quoted from your 2nd post for Copilot.
Copilot: What he’s revealing here is the personal reason he wrote the original post, and it deepens the symbolic meaning he sees in Exodus. 1. Peter is admitting something personal- He says he wrote the post because: he noticed his own heart tightening, he felt himself becoming less kind, he was questioning whether he was still acting from compassion, this scared him. So, the Exodus story came back to him because it mirrors what he was feeling internally.
This is important: Peter is not talking about Pharaoh “out there.” He’s talking about Pharaoh inside himself.
2. He sees Pharaoh as a symbol of inner rigidity- Pharaoh represents the part of us that becomes rigid, the part that refuses to soften, the part that resists change, the part that becomes stone. So, for Peter: Pharaoh = the inner voice that says “No, I won’t change.” Not a villain. Not a historical figure. A psychological pattern.
3. Peter fears becoming like Pharaoh- This is the emotional core of his message. He says: he doesn’t want his own heart to harden, he doesn’t want to become rigid or closed, he doesn’t want to lose kindness, he doesn’t want to be overwhelmed by life until he breaks.
He wants to stay fluid, responsive, compassionate, open.
He sees this as active work, not something that happens automatically.
4. He believes hardening happens gradually- Peter is saying: the heart doesn’t turn to stone all at once, it happens through small choices, each refusal to soften adds a layer, each act of fear or defensiveness adds another, eventually, the heart becomes rigid without noticing. This is why he says noticing “any hardening” is important. It’s early intervention.
5. He applies this to individuals, nations, and the world- Peter believes people can harden, communities can harden, nations can harden, the world can harden. And when that happens, empathy disappears.
This is why he’s so disturbed by modern ideas like “empathy is a sin” — he sees that as a sign of collective hardening.
6. What this adds to his original message- His first post was philosophical and symbolic. This new post reveals the emotional motivation behind it: He wrote about Pharaoh because he was afraid he was becoming Pharaoh. He felt a tightening, a withdrawal, a questioning of his own kindness. And he used the Exodus story to examine that feeling. So, the story is not just a metaphor for society — it’s a mirror for his own inner life.
Simple Summary of What’s New- Peter is saying: “I wrote about Pharaoh because I felt my own heart starting to harden. Pharaoh represents the rigid part of us that refuses to change. I don’t want to become that.
So, I pay attention to any signs of hardening — in myself, in my country, in the world.”(have to get off the computer)
anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused 🙂: I gave up last night but woke up this morning with renewed determination to figure out the emoji puzzle from yesterday: 🤢 🤮
anitaParticipant* okay, really there was a different vomit face that I click but it translate to the old one. I give up.
anitaParticipantWait, it’s the SAME vomit face, right above.
This is the 2nd vomit face that showed up 🤢
Alright, enough 🍷 4 me. 🤔
anitaParticipantIt’s time for the night🌙 Owl 🦉 to go to bed. Good 🌃 Confused. No, haven’t been at the taproom. It closed for good last Friday (4 nights ago). Had some 🍷 at home.
By the way, you first posted here on Dec 19, page 13- 65 pages of just you and I talking.
* Sadly, I lost my beloved vomit face for no apparent reason, and this one showed up instead 🤢. Not the same.
🦉🍷🌙 Anita
anitaParticipantYes, it’s a vomit emoji, the green face is holding in the vomit. Not related to our current conversation, just think it’s cute. Ha- ha..?
anitaParticipantHey Night Owl 🦉 Confused:
I pray 🙏 to God every day: rationally I don’t believe in God, but emotionally I have to.
I am imagining right now the two of you living together: three rooms are needed: one that’s your private room, another that’s her private room, and a third where the two of you meet.
No, no, too many rooms. Only 2 are needed: one for when the 2 of U spend nights together and another room for when either one of you needs alone time.
Then a kitchen and a living room.
Or, if you can’t afford a kitchen+ 3 rooms, then there need to be a sign that says NITM2T2A (not in the mood to talk to anyone). Abbreviated: NA.
There can be simple solutions to complex problems depending on budget
🤔 🤢 🙂 Anita
anitaParticipant* You mentioned fawning…
anitaParticipantA minute at a time is a good beginning.
“In the beginning” are the first words of the Bible (Genesis), and paraphrased, it says: In the beginning the earth was a mess with darkness over the earth .. and then God separated the sky from the ground, day from night, etc.
It took god step by step to organize the mess, so, yes, start with a minute 🙂
You .e tinned fawning in the message before last and in this message you mentioned having a really hard time setting boundaries and asking for space.
That’s something perhaps to talk about in therapy?
Hmm, if you feel like you can’t set boundaries with her- that’s scary, isn’t it? Like you’re in danger of your personal space being invaded by her?
🤔 🤢 🦉 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Confused:
I heard things about reddit. It’s safer ( and a much, much smaller place here). Glad you’ll stick around a little longer 😃
It would be W.O.N.D.E.R.F.U.L if you get into the habit of Noticing a feeling & Letting go (instead of Analyzing) 🙏
About the Nov arguments- the two of you come across to me as honest and caring, decent people. No abuse on her part or yours.
About the conversation you had with her today.. she’s becoming more and more of a woman I really wish 🤞 you could love and live with (sort of) happily ever after.
The two of you- in my mind- are adorable!
“Anita, what is happening with me?”- maybe you are feeling how close THIS is to your life changing (living with her as your lifetime partner), more than you ever felt with anyone else, and that’s what scares 😱 you.
🤔 🇬🇷 🤍🇨🇾 🤍 🇬🇷 🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantHey Peter:
“I still need to work on that”- on being you or on being silly?
I don’t remember Peter being silly 🤔
Thank you so much for telling me that you think it’s great that I can express myself as I did. I was a bit afraid that you’d think otherwise.
Really? It’s really what you think? (no need to answer, of course you mean what you say. I know you well enough to know that you are.. religiously 😉 honest)
It’s just that it’s hard for me to believe that how I spontaneously express myself is truly okay with another person.
“Between ‘Egypt’ and ‘Promise land’ lies the wilderness”- the wilderness here is me being silly and then a bit anxious about whether it (my silliness/ spontaniety) was received or rejected.
I am curious if your religious background is Catholic or Methodist (two possibilities that come to my mind). I don’t expect an answer. It’s perfectly okay with me that you don’t answer any question you’re uncomfortable with or if you just don’t feel like answering.
The value in my asking may be just to share with you what crosses my mind.
“Whatever you lose, you’ve won”- winning distance from ‘Egypt’ and getting closer to the ‘Promise land’- within my own mind, mentally and socially?
If I remember correctly, the Jews in the desert 🏜 never got to enter the promised land (I didn’t get a chance to look it up, having a limited use of the computer).
🤔 🎶 🏜 Anita
anitaParticipantHmm.. therapist told you to reduce activity here? (I miss you already 😔)
To Notice a feeling and leave it there, to not analyze it further is a great suggestion or recommendation. Can you make it happen?
What happened in that “first big argument on November”? Can you present it to me as:
She: “…..”, You: “…..”, she: “…”, etc. Paraphrased, if you don’t remember the exact words?
🤢 (I’m “in love” with this emoji.. does it make me weird, ha-ha.. ha?) Anita
anitaParticipantGood 🌄 Peter:
In the past, I would feel embarrassed for having submitted an emotional, silly message like the one I submitted at 9:12 pm last night (my time).
But this morning I felt embarrassed by the dry, clinical, emotionally- detached posts I had submitted so often over the years (you can look at my first response today to “A”, a 9 years ago thread in which you posted as well).
But now, although the faint taste of embarrassment is still in my mouth (for the dry-clinical post to A, and for the silly-emotional post to you last night), I feel almost okay with both.
For the post 9 years ago- because I didn’t know better. THAT was my best at the time.
And for the post I submitted to you 13+ hours ago- because it is better. Emotions are okay. Emotions are welcomed.
I no longer need to suffocate, flatten.. suppress them under a cover of clinical, dry analysis (which is what I did as a child, surviving a highly chaotic, out of control, scary emotionality dished out by my mother).
The thought that last night’s post (and similar ones I submitted to you before) are unwelcome, or makes you cringe- crossed my mind. If this is the case, please tell me and I won’t post such in any of your threads anymore.
Our emotional languages are changing over the years.
Looking at your reply to A 9 years ago, you wrote that following an ex’s decision to end contact with you, it “Hurt” (your word, big-case letter, H- a direct expression). That was simple and direct. But that was a 1 2 1 exchange, not a literary piece directed at an audience (I hope you submit these pieces in other, more popular websites where they can be read by more people)
I still want to process your last 2 amazing posts a bit later.
🎶 🤍 Anita
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