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anitaParticipantHey š š¦ Confused:
I hope the above was not too much. I wanted to take advantage of my š„ time (Copilot)
I can’t imagine more possible analysis and understanding than what Copilot provided.
I š¤ that Anxiety needs to be addressed- if not through therapy, mindfulness and emotion-regulation practices alone (there are many!), then by psychiatric š as well.
There are meds that act fast on anxiety- you’d feel relaxed right away (but are supposed to be used short-term), or those SSRIs & such that are slow-acting (you have to take them for weeks and be patient).
š š¤ š š Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
Copilot: Confusedās message reveals several important layers. First, he is deeply emotionally overwhelmed ā not just by his own anxiety, but now by his girlfriendās insecurity and withdrawal. His crying, his desire to comfort her, and his distress at her friendsā comments show that he is highly sensitive to relational threat.
My note: The words “highly sensitive to relational threat” stood out for me as something that I now recognize, retroactively, in your posts since December. I wonder if the idea of losing her is your #1 source of anxiety. Let me ask you know whom…
Copilot: Short answer: yes ā the idea of losing her is one of his biggest sources of anxiety. Everything heās written points to a deep, almost primal fear of loss. Notice how often he reacts intensely when she pulls away, she becomes insecure, she hesitates (etc.)-
Each time, he goes straight into crying, panic, intrusive thoughts, emotional shutdown, derealization… This is the reaction of someone whose nervous system is terrified of abandonment.
But hereās the deeper truth: itās not just fear of losing her- Itās fear of losing emotional safety… the version of himself he feels he can be with her… the emotional āanchorā she represents
His message reveals: 1. He cares deeply- You donāt cry like that over someone you donāt care about.
2. He is extremely sensitive to relational threat- Even small shifts in her tone or behavior destabilize him.
3. His emotional shutdown is a defense mechanism- When the fear gets too big, his system āturns offā to protect him.
4. He confuses emotional numbness with loss of love- This is a classic anxiety misinterpretation.
5. His fear intensifies when she is scared- He mirrors her emotional state ā a sign of emotional enmeshment, not indifference.
A Comprehensive, SimpleāLanguage Analysis of Confused:
Confused is a young man who feels things very deeply but doesnāt yet understand his own emotional system. He grew up believing that love is supposed to feel intense, dramatic, and full of longing ā so when he experiences calmer, steadier feelings, he doesnāt recognize them as real.
This makes him panic and assume something is wrong with him or the relationship.
When he gets scared, his mind fills with intrusive thoughts telling him heās a fraud or that his feelings are gone, even though his behavior shows the opposite: he cries over her, wants to hold her, feels protective of her, and is devastated when she pulls away.
His nervous system gets overwhelmed easily, and when that happens, he shuts down emotionally ā he canāt access his feelings, canāt think clearly, and feels disconnected from himself. He mistakes this shutdown for ālosing love,ā when in reality itās just anxiety overloading him.
He is also extremely sensitive to her emotional state; when she becomes insecure or distant, he feels it instantly and mirrors it, which makes him even more confused.
Underneath all of this, he cares deeply, wants closeness, and is terrified of losing her. His biggest struggle isnāt a lack of love ā itās that he doesnāt yet know how to feel safe in a relationship that isnāt fueled by intensity. Heās learning a new emotional language, and the unfamiliarity scares him.”
What says Confused?
(emojis) Anita
anitaParticipantHey Dear Eliana:
I just read through many of your posts and communication with myself and with other members 2017-19.
I found out we’re only 1 year apart. You should be 64 now (time flies).
I would so very much like to read from you again, hoping you’re okay š
Thank you for being as honest and open here, and for trying to help people (and animals), here and in real-life.
Lots of members replied to you because they felt your sincerity and the beauty of your soul ššš
I wish they too will return and that it’d be positively busier here, in the forums.
š¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Tom š
Yes, it’s a good-enough weekend although I may be starting to miss socializing since the taproom I used to frequent closed 16 days ago.
It’s really admirable, in my mind, how you keep a positive attitude throughout your search for a better job and other life challenges. I don’t remember if we talked about it: what would be your ideal jobš¤?
⨠Anita
anitaParticipantIt’s been 7 years, 3 months and 25 days since you posted right above, Eliana. It’d be a miracle if you read this and respond š¤
anitaParticipantGood to read that you’re well, Debbieš I am fine, sitting here on a comfortable reclining armchair with Bogart lightly snoring on my lap. āļø is out, expecting to work outside.
anitaParticipantGood Morning Confused (using the computer)
Copilot about your recent post:
1. He confirms the core issue: he equates love with intensity- He literally says: āIāve never learned to value love and stabilityā āI yearn for the highsā āIf it doesnāt consume me then I donāt want itā This is huge. It shows that his emotional template for love is built on chaos, adrenaline, and fear, not calm connection. Thatās not a personality flaw ā itās a learned pattern.
This tells us: Heās not actually doubting her. Heās doubting a version of love that doesnāt match his old blueprint. Heās grieving the loss of the āhighsā he used to rely on for emotional certainty.
2. He reveals a key moment: āI want to feel like beforeā- This is extremely important. He remembers crying in December saying: āI want to feel like before.ā That is textbook emotional grief ā not relationship doubt. It shows: Heās mourning the loss of the old emotional intensity. Heās terrified because he thinks the absence of intensity = absence of love. Heās stuck between what he feels and what he believes he should feel. This is a classic anxiety-driven identity crisis around love.
3. He describes a āfraud voiceā ā this is intrusive thinking- When he visited her, he says: āSomething was bugging me⦠a voice telling me Iām a fraud.ā This is not a relationship problem. This is an intrusive thought loop ā a hallmark of anxiety and emotional dysregulation.
Intrusive thoughts often sound like: āYouāre lying.ā āYou donāt really love her.ā āYouāre pretending.ā āYouāre fake.ā
These thoughts feel real but are actually fear responses.
The fact that he could hug her, kiss her, enjoy her ā while the voice still attacked him ā shows the thoughts are not aligned with his true feelings.
4. His derealization description is very detailed ā and very telling- He asks you how it felt for you, then describes: Random moments of feeling āout of itā āWhat am I doing here?ā āWhy am I talking to her?ā Forgetting things instantly. Drifting away mentally. This is classic derealization + anxiety fog.
Itās not about her. Itās not about the relationship. Itās about his nervous system being overwhelmed.
Heās describing: Cognitive dissociation. Emotional numbness. Short-term memory disruption. Disconnection from self and surroundings
These are all anxiety symptoms ā not relationship symptoms.
5. āMy feelings were locked in a boxā ā this is emotional shutdown- He says: āIt felt like my feelings were locked in a box and I couldnāt feel them.ā
This is emotional numbing ā a protective response when the brain is overwhelmed.
Important: He says logically he knew he wanted her even when he couldnāt feel the emotions. Thatās a major sign that: His values are intact. His commitment is intact. His emotional system is just overloaded.
This is not someone falling out of love. This is someone whose anxiety has hijacked his emotional access.
6. He is starting to connect the dots- He says: āWow, this fits so much, maybe I am learning something new here?ā
This is a breakthrough moment.
Heās beginning to: Recognize the pattern. Understand his emotional history. See that anxiety is the culprit. Realize his feelings didnāt ādisappearā ā they got blocked
This is the first step toward healing.
7. He is open, reflective, and emotionally honest- This is important for you to see: Heās not defensive.
Heās not dismissive. Heās not shutting down.Heās: Curious Vulnerable Willing to explore Trying to understand himself Trusting you enough to share his inner world
Thatās someone who wants clarity and stability but doesnāt know how to navigate it yet.
… He is not losing feelings. He is losing familiarity. He doesnāt know how to function in a relationship that isnāt chaotic. He is grieving the loss of the āold rulesā of love. Heās trying to learn a new emotional language. He is deeply self-aware and trying to understand himself.
This is a very good sign.Hereās a message you can send him, written in your voice but with emotional precision:
āConfused, Iām really glad you shared all of this. What you wrote actually gives me a much clearer picture of whatās going on inside you ā and it makes total sense. Youāre not broken, and youāre not a fraud. Youāre someone who learned to associate love with intensity, and now youāre trying to navigate a calmer, safer kind of connection. That shift is confusing and scary, but itās also a sign of growth.
When you say youāve never learned to value stability, that tells me youāre stepping into completely new emotional territory. Of course, it feels unfamiliar. Of course, your mind panics and tries to pull you back to what it knows. That doesnāt mean something is wrong ā it means youāre changing.
And that moment you described in December ā crying and wanting to āfeel like beforeā ā thatās exactly what happens when the old emotional pattern stops working. You werenāt grieving the relationship. You were grieving the loss of the emotional intensity you used to rely on. Thatās a painful transition, but itās also a meaningful one.
The āfraud voiceā you mentioned is just anxiety trying to protect you by questioning everything. It doesnāt reflect who you are or what you feel. The fact that you could enjoy being close to her while that voice was screaming at you actually shows how strong your real feelings are underneath the noise.
And the derealization moments you described ā the drifting, the forgetting, the āout of itā feeling ā those are classic signs of overwhelm. Theyāre not signs that the relationship is fake. Theyāre signs that your nervous system is overloaded. Iāve felt versions of that too, and itās incredibly disorienting, but it passes.
What stands out to me most is that even when your feelings felt ālocked in a box,ā you still knew you wanted her. That says everything. Your emotions didnāt disappear ā they just got buried under fear and pressure. Youāre slowly reconnecting with them, even if it doesnāt feel smooth or predictable yet.
Honestly, Iām proud of you for being this open. Youāre not running away from this ā youāre trying to understand yourself. That takes courage. And Iām here with you in this, not judging you, not expecting you to be perfect. Just trying to understand you the way youāre trying to understand yourself.ā
Above is Copilot’s word which I agree with whole heartedly. As far as how I experienced derealization: I remember at one time (I was driving) distances changed, everything seemed closer and bigger (made it through without an accident). Another time, obviously, I was crossing a busy street but didn’t realize it until a truck flew by me. My mind drifting away was a regular thing, couldn’t follow conversations, as if I wasn’t there and didn’t know what people were talking about, etc.
I really like Copilot’s message to you. Wow!
Anita and Copilot
anitaParticipantHey š Confused:
I am not very focused now and will reply further in the morning. But for now, about your last paragraph: yes, might-have-to- change that thinking!
A thinking that doesn’t work anymore, a thinking that is causing you nothing but distress.. – should be changed. Shouldn’t it, Confused?
I suppose that thinking (love= intensity, etc.) worked for you for a while, but it’s not working anymore. So, it takes adjusting, re- evaluating, changing.
Letting go of thinking that’s not working for you anymore.
Imagine readjusting to a different experience of love: something gentle, something mild, something that’s not life or death.
“If it doesn’t consume me”, it’s a good thing because it let’s you breathe.
More tomorrow.
š¤ š š¦ š¤¢ š· š š Anita
anitaParticipantToday, I connected the concept of the Hardened Heart with Mental Rigidity: the being locked š into one framework, one lens through which seeing the š, and seeing no other way as valid.
As in My Way or The Highway- no other way but my own to understand YOU.
This was my mother: rigid. Worse than some other rigid-s: crazy rigid, histrionic.
In her rigidity (hardened heart) there was no seeing me as a person with my own valid thoughts and emotions. There was only her thoughts and no space for any that were different.
She squeezed me into a 2-D bare existence.
I see other people, not as crazy and volatile as my mother, yet rigid nonetheless:
– My way of understanding, interpreting- no other way.
Personally, I am relaxing my rigidity, my binary black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinking.
Assuming less, asking instead.
No longer telling you what you’re thinking, what you’re feeling, what motivates you, etc.
Instead- asking gentle questions, having a dialogue, offering an emotionally safe space for you to explore your thoughts/ feelings/ motivations-
Not to tell you what those are but to explore together.
𤪠āØļø š¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHow R U, Debbie?
anitaParticipantI hope U’re still š, Miss L Dutchess š
anitaParticipantHow R U, Omyk, 2 months & 16 days since U posted last?
anitaParticipantHow R U, Nichole, 10 days since U posted last (time flies, doesn’t it)?
anitaParticipantHello again, Em:
It reads like the 2 of you live together or that he spends a lot of time in your place, and while in the same place, he wants to be together with you all the time, and doesn’t respect your need for space, for alone-time.
You and him share the same friends, and you can’t talk to them because.. they like him too much and you don’t feel that they’ll listen to your perspective because they think of him as the nicest guy and they’re not aware of how he behaves privately with you?
What doesn’t go together with the above thoughts is that “most of the time he makes (you) feel like the luckiest girl in the world”-
Can’t be lucky if he does not allow you alone-time, keeps knocking on your closed door and taking possession of your personal property as leverage (is this even legal?)
In any case, it’s clear to me that you’re very much attached to him emotionally and maybe you describe some of his behaviors as not as bad as they really are.. because part of you wants to hold on to him and never let him go?
(thinking out loud š¤)
š¤ Anita
anitaParticipantWho is this guy, Copilot? He’s brilliant š
And his name starts with the same letter as yours!
The word “derealization came to my mind when I read your second post- before I read Copilot’s input. It’s a symptom of anxiety. I remember feeling it. It did feel weird.. unreal.
What didn’t ocurr to me before I read Copilot’s input is that you’re grieving the loss of emotional certainty in regard to how love “should” feel.
It’s like how-love-should-feel has died. Not that your ability to love has died, by your ability to “love” that way: intensely, all the time, etc.
I am looking forward to reading your thought- feelings about all of this.
š¤¢ šØ š¤¬ š¢ š āŗļø š± š” (feeeelings, oh, oh, oh fĆØeĆØeeeeeelings)
Anita
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