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anitaParticipant
Dear Kshitij:
You are welcome! I read your post right above and I want to put together a thoughtful reply in the morning, when my brain is hopefully rested. It’s Tues evening here, Wed 1:27 am in the UK. Please do your best to relax: give yourself an empathetic hug (place your arms across, over your shoulders as you lie down).. it may help a bit..?
anita
June 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433732anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
I’ll reply today in a different way, different from quoting and commenting. First, thank you for your support and kindness in response to what I shared with you recently!
The title of the book by itself “Living from a place of Surrender” is powerful. I see it as surrendering to what I cannot change, which first takes SEEING that which I don’t like (and cannot change). Connecting this to N, maybe you can add Surrender to the list of the stages of a breakup that you wrote about in your journal entry (May 13).
Seeing him clearly and then surrendering to the truth of what you see can free you from going back to fighting within-you, trying to.. change him still, even after the breakup (in your thoughts and dreams, perhaps)
And seeing him clearly is seeing that he didn’t see you. He only saw a bit of something here, a bit of something there. It is amazing how blind a person can be to another in a supposed intimate relationship. It’s like being Anonymous for the person you love. He told you that he loved you, but he can’t tell you who.. you are.
There is a book titled People of the Lie: The hope for Healing Human Evil. I imagine you, Seaturtle, authoring a book one day, with a title like People who don’t See the Ones they claim to Love: The Hope for healing Human Blindness. Something like that.
anita
June 11, 2024 at 2:04 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #433722anitaParticipantAdding to my above reply: instead of giving in to your discomfort and going back to Alicante, transcend your discomfort and stay in Warsaw. Focus on being grateful, caring and kind to your girlfriend and to her mother, the people who opened their little home to you.
anita
June 11, 2024 at 12:25 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #433721anitaParticipantDear Robi:
“It took me less than 48 hours to feel like I regret leaving Spain to come here. In Spain I had (some) work and (some) privacy. Here, we live with my girlfriend’s mother in a small flat with no doors… My girlfriend was telling me a few days before leaving Spain together – ‘I’m afraid the moment we touch down you’ll start hating it again…’…. leaving Warsaw because I didn’t want to be here anymore, and after 3 months come back here because I didn’t want to be there anymore… I feel like I’m missing something. There is something I don’t see.. I don’t quite see the bigger picture. Of course, I could always ask my previous landlord if I could have my old room back and go back to live in Alicante.. which I’ve been considering these days. All this starts to look more and more.. like a game of ping-pong”-
– My easy “answer” or suggestion would be: yes, Robi, you feel so uncomfortable, so go back to Alicante, and maybe you will feel comfortable there! But this answer will keep the ping-pong game going. This is not what growing up- becoming adult is about: it’s about the bigger picture= enduring discomfort and becoming more of a quality person as a result, more of .. a quality adult.
At this time, in your situation and quest to adult, I suggest that you remove your focus from your own discomfort (and quest for comfort) and focus on the comfort of your girlfriend and her mother. Try to make them feel comfortable. Say and do what will promote their comfort. Do that and let me know how it feels for you, will you?
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
Seems like suddenly (as in after half a century), I am not angry at my mother anymore. I never allowed myself to NOT be angry at her because I was afraid that otherwise, I will get close to her again.. and get hurt again. But now, as I hold myself accountable to the promise I made to the child-within-me (aka inner child) to never see her again irl, never hear her voice, never feel her hand in mine or any such thing, never communicate with her in any way.. Now, that I trust this promise to myself, I am no longer angry at her.
Strange. It’s like I let her go, let her be gone.
I hold myself accountable to the promise I made to me. To never expose myself to the woman who stole so much of my life, the majority of it, quality wise, never re-expose myself to my “personal Nazi”, as I referred to her 40 years ago, the one who having made my childhood, “my personal holocaust”. She made my life.. my private holocaust. And this is the truth, when it comes to my mother-myself, when it comes to my life.
To be continued, still-
anita
anitaParticipantDear Kshitij:
You are always welcome!
(I am adding the boldface feature to the quote): “I am rushing, I do feel lagging behind.. I am living under self-inflicted pressure… I want to release this pressure now… my intrusive thoughts and flashbacks are hindering me… And just like that, I scrolled my mobile phone for less than a minute and I came across something that again triggered my anxiety and intrusive thoughts… I do accept that I have a habit/tendency of self-loathing from a long time”-
– As a person who suffered from heavy-duty OCD for (I am guessing) 25 years, a Rushing person: mentally and physically (I was “blessed” with Tourette tics which is like the muscles are rushing with nowhere to go),- I can tell you (some if it told again, I suppose) what worked for me:
1) Psychiatric medications: Sertraline and later, Fluvoxamine (two of the SSRI anti-depressant used off label for OCD. I have a distinct memory when I first took Sertraline (prescribed by a psychiatrist), I felt that the drug was like a pair of scissors that cut off my obsessive/ intrusive thoughts (I no longer take any psychiatric drugs since 2013).
2) Psychotherapy (2011-13): Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) with a heavy dose of Mindfulness.
3) One day, I remember it well, I asked myself: what power does an intrusive thought really have? I purposefully thought “dangerous” thoughts and realized that nothing really happened as a result. I understood that the intrusive thoughts happen only in the distance between my two ears, and not beyond. When I no longer feared my thoughts.. they stopped being intrusive, they were just thoughts, mere thoughts and nothing more.
4) I used to compare myself to others, most unfavorably, feeling like a failure in comparison. One day I accepted my failures, no longer fighting within, no longer resisting.. it took the pressure off.
5) Through.. eventually, feeling empathy for myself, I no longer loathe myself: I am on my side, I am for me; not against me.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Zenith: A colonoscopy in India..? I’d think you would have had it done in the U.S., where you live. But regardless, better get it over with before your stay with your mother. It’s almost 6 am in India, I assume you’ll be having it in the afternoon. Any particular reason you have it at your age (younger).. and in India?
About being overwhelmed, think of the nice sedative you’ll receive when you’re there. I had only one colonoscopy in my life, and once given the sedative.. I had such a good time during the procedure (I am not exaggerating, the drug was that .. effective!)
anita
anitaParticipantDear Zenith: make it last, lol, and let any trouble between the two of you pass on like.. Passing clouds.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Zenith:
I bet you are looking forward to spending the rest of your vacation with your mother. I hope you get along with your sister (who I believe is living with your mother still).
anita
June 10, 2024 at 11:16 am in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433664anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
I looked up Body and Brain Yoga, it reads: “a unique blend of Yoga, Tai Chi, Breathwork and Meditation exercises”- reads like a winning combination. I did lots of yoga and tai chi classes back in the day. I miss the Tai Chi Sifu. He was indeed very skillful, physically and mentally.
“you are not directly in my shoes“- true.
“Currently, and recently I have been made aware of these shadows, aka false selves, and they are overwhelming when stacked together… I lost that little girl for a while because, as you know, I had to quiet her to stay in that relationship“- I will tell you what this means to me, about me/ my life, being directly in my shoes: the little girl that I was, she was trusting and loving and beautiful. What I just typed, I typed comfortably, spontaneously, with no self-doubt, no guilt attached, no shame. It never happened until most recently (I was sure- almost- all along, that I was a bad girl= bad person). But not this morning as I am typing this for you to read.
This was/ is my true self: trusting, loving and beautiful.
My false selves: (1) the angry self, angry at all the people my mother was angry with (everyone, sooner or later), (2) the suspicious, distrusting self, suspicious and distrusting of.. everyone, sooner or later, (3) the unintelligent, inattentive self = a reaction-self: a reaction to significant/ severe abuse, (4) the helpless, hopeless self, again: a reaction to abuse, (5) the ugly self, the self that wronged others… (6) the inferior self, inferior to my peers/ people, (7) the superior self, the other side of the same (# 6) coin.
I am now significantly free-er of these false selves, never before free-er than I am now. Thank you for being part of this self-freeing process.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Renn:
(I am adding the boldface feature selectively to your quotes): “Even last night we actually did have a massive argument over him calling me stupid. He says he didn’t mean that I was stupid, just that I had done a stupid thing. All it was, that I didn’t eat much that day because I was stressed. He started calling me childish and saying a bunch of stuff, like how he didn’t think we were friends and that we were just bf and gf”-
– he is an ANGRY young man who expresses his anger through name calling and accusations, like a child throwing an anger tantrum, telling you: You are Stupid! You are Childish! You are Not my Friend!
“I really do love him and he is just looking out for me“- do you mean that him calling you names and throwing temper tantrums equals to him looking out for you? Or is it that you really do love him, so you prefer to think of his misbehavior as looking out for you?
“but I don’t think he really goes about it in the way I personally would“- you personally do not call him stupid, childish, etc.?
“I hate the whole suspecting thing, it makes me feel like I’ve done something wrong when I haven’t at all… I really care about him“- if you start a relationship with a suspicious man who distrusts you, and you stay long enough, sooner or later, you start distrusting yourself.
“I never really know if I should be listening to my head or my heart and I don’t even know if my head and my heart are pointing the same way or not… I probably know how I really feel deep down, but I am really finding it hard to work out what it is that I actually think… I have no idea what my ‘gut feeling’ actually is telling me“-
– Here are a few possibilities of what your gut is trying to tell you. Please read when you are calm, and let me know if any (or what combination) of the following rings true to you, and elaborate on what feels true to you:
1) I really love him, I don’t want to ever let him go.
2) One day he’ll trust me and being with him will be wonderful.
3) It’d be a dream come true to turn someone who is angry at me, into someone who is loving me.
4) He loves much, no one else will love me that much. He will never leave me.
anita
June 9, 2024 at 2:51 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433624anitaParticipant* I forgot to edit out the sentence “May the chapter of “Telling the difference… come to an end.” from my reply.
June 9, 2024 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433623anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
I miss our chakras talks, our meetings of crown chakras.
“I feel like CBT will help me, but I am struggling to find a therapist. I am afraid someone will lead me astray and, in my vulnerability, I will be so impressionable“- my 2011-13 therapist was a CBT therapist who incorporated Mindfulness into his practice. I found him by googling CBT (in my location at the time). He offered a free first visit, went way beyond the standard 50 min per session (in the first and following sessions), so, he was the one for me.
“I really appreciate this (heart emoji)“- you are welcome, and thank you, heart emoji back at you!
“I have found a lot of healing energy inside… Brain and Body yoga“- good thing!
“May the chapter of “Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships” come to an end.”
“I have hit a major checkpoint within the last week. I have heard and seen N in the last week, he gave my things back, although much thrown away… Last night I deleted our photo album, and then I had a great sleep and woke up better than I went to sleep… Today I am throwing away memorabilia from our relationship… I feel a sense of closure, I finally know I never have to see him again“- what a relief it is to read this! It is as if I am you, feeling a great relief to have this unnecessary stress and distress over with, if it is.
“What do you mean by ‘2nd year of life.’“- age 1- 2 years.
“I wonder how much I should expect people near me often, to see me?“- in my experience of recent: if someone outside of me sees me, really sees me as a good, honest person, a likeable person, just one person, I no longer crave to be seen; I was already seen.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Arie:
You are welcome, and thank you for responding to me, it’s nice to be acknowledged!
Since my last reply to you, I do the NPARR strategy just the way I suggested to you, so my advice has been helping me, And, in my last sentence in my last reply: “Redirect my focus to behaving myself in ways I wish others behaved.”- I had a saying in mind but couldn’t come up with the wording. I now remember the saying: “Be the Change You Want to See in the World” (Mahatma Gandhi).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Renn:
Welcome back!
You ended your original post with: “I don’t wish to change him in any way I think it might just be a compatibility thing..”
There is a Values Incompatibility between the two of you: you are in no way motivated by money, so you shared, and he is highly motivated by money.
But there is an issue that goes beyond incompatibility, a red flag, seems to me: “He is very jealous by nature, always asking about my ex, and assuming things about me which are completely out of nowhere“-
– this is a problem, isn’t it, to accept or endure the role of Suspect, in a relationship?
anita
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