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Whenever there are people involved, there are chances for abuse. It is unfortunate. When there are male leaders, some tend to abuse their position and have inappropriate relationships. This is not limited to Buddhist. Catholic church and their priest. Some of the abused were children. Buddhist has had their share. Are women discriminated against. Of course they have, historically. Not allowed in an all male temple. Women present a serious temptation and distraction. This doesn’t disappear even in our modern age. Some temples allow women in but only under strict guidelines. Must dress as to present a gender neutral facade. Buddhist temples are not a dating or social venue.
Could ask the Catholic church if they discriminate against women. It will probably be very similar. There may be Saints and Buddha’s but not all members are such.
TommyParticipantFirst you have to find a Buddhist that is on line??
Most should be in a room sitting quietly.
TommyParticipantIn parenting, you learn that you must take care of yourself first before you can help anyone else. Like being on a plane that has lost air, you must put on your oxygen mask first or you can not help you child. Parenting means you are out to raise your child with every advantage you could possibly give him. It also means that you have to teach them to be good people. Have a moral compass. Ideas of good and bad. When good decisions make for good results and bad decision make for bad results and much regret.
Helcat, I am sorry you are in so much pain. The stupid saying that what doesn’t kill you will make you stronger, … well, it really doesn’t mean any thing when you are going thru it. I can still remember my wife telling my mother in the hospital bed of trying to be good and take recovery as best she can. Then days later my mom would pass away. I know there is no sense in saying the end is near. But the truth, it hurts. So we don’t mention it. Always presenting a brave face. It was the same with my sister when she passed away from Cancer. Thinking this will probably be the last time I see her. And for some reason, I still feel that I will survive even though I know I will die.
I really hope you will feel better soon. Tough to take care of a baby when you need so much attention for yourself. Are there any relatives that can visit and help? Neighbors or friends? It is good to hear that you and your husband have found a way of working together to raise the baby. Children will either pull you together or … we don’t say the other stuff.
Shy? All kids are shy at first. But more exposure to meeting people (the same people) can help allay fears. Shyness can be overcome. Oh, are you talking to the baby? Hearing the sound of your voice. They will pick up on language faster. Oh. to help my daughter I go her this DVD on your child can read. It was a fun and educational DVD to help her learn words. It really did help. TV .. yeah, the electronic baby sitter, programs to help the brain form and learn fast. Understand emotions. My daughter love Daniel tiger.
OOOoops, rambling. I think I had too much to drink. Nite. Yeah, am going to try to stay off.
Tommy
TommyParticipantDear Laven,
If I were a good person then I would say, …. (warning; watch out)
Forgive him so that you can let him go. Then build upon your own life with new people. Rejoice in the time you had with him. Don’t feel bad because he left. Feel good that you now have a new opportunity to grow beyond him and onto better things. So, learn to forgive. Make yourself whole again.
But, I am not a good person. I usually speak my mind and it upsets people. You know your situation is not healthy. You know. What are you going to do about it? Dwell in the sorrow and the hurt and the pain? You know. You know.
Tommy
Note: Despise me if you want but it won’t change the facts. You know.
TommyParticipantThank you Helcat,
It has been nice to talk with you. Share a story and a laugh. Thanks for that. I feel that I must leave here. I am not good at helping or giving advice. And am thin skinned enough to be easily triggered. Then off with the mouth and then apologizes for what I said. So, not being of good body and not a sound mind, I think I will leave again. Thank you so much for your kindness. I wish you all well.
Tommy
TommyParticipantKoans only work when there is an intense effort to find the answer to the unanswerable question. The Koan must be absorbed. Everything in the mind and then some. Then bursting from the efforts the answer comes. Do you have a teacher? Sangha? When one sits in silence and absolute stillness, the perception shifts. One is here in this moment and in the stillness. It can feel overwhelming. The two are different methods to arrive at the same point. Paradox indeed.
I have no desire to be liked or understood. And there are times that I am thin skinned and let out the most outrageous words. But, I do try to be civil (not evil). Don’t always succeed. But try. Shows why I do not have friends. I wish you all well.
TommyParticipant[quote quote=434646]* I want to add a note about Tommy’s post: “Oh, wow, so much.. BS. No not the right word. You seem to be extremely cerebral… There is nothing special about enlightenment… Drop this monkey mind”– – calling Peter’s thoughts and feelings BS? Telling him there is nothing special about what he believes to be special? Telling him to drop his ideas and beliefs? And, sneakily, you say BS is not the right word, but you don’t delete the it. You call him extremely cerebral: Wel, you Tommy were extremely rude here. Personally, I’ll take extremely cerebral over extremely rude any time of the day or night. anita[/quote]I am sorry that you read the words but did not understand the intent. Okay, I was rude. I apologize. The post wasn’t meant for you.
[quote quote=434649]Thanks Anita you have a wonderful way with words and its helpful to see what I attempt to work through reflected back so succinctly. Though I was taken aback by Tommy’s tone for a moment (a old wound of not being seen or understood showed up) I wasn’t offended. As we were referencing a Zen Koan, after taking the moment, I had to laugh as ‘BS’ is actually a appropriate reply. A Zen master would have no doubt ‘slapped‘ both of us. If I understand correctly the Koan’s are paradoxical and intentionally frustrating the idea being to break (slap) the hold of the grasping measuring mind or something… the imagined Zen Master just slapped me again. 🙂 Tommy’s mention of monkey mind caused me to pause. My process of ‘sitting in a Koan’ (Paradox, dualism) with free flow of thoughts (slowed down by typing them out) actually calms the monkey as it tends to end in silence. But that’s my process and I see why it might find it ‘to much’.[/quote]
You have an amazing understanding. And yes, I was rude. I apologize for my words but not for my intent. And Yes, An old Zen master would have slapped us both. You know more than you let on at first. Namaste.
TommyParticipantI saw on Youtube John Cena talk about the birth of his babies. He said when his son was born, he just knew he had to protect this boy. That he would give his life for this baby boy. Then he goes on to talk about the birth of his daughter. He said that when the nurse put the baby girl in his hands, he felt that he would kill for his daughter. These are the types of feelings one has in the moment. Luckily as the baby grows so does our sense of responsibilities.
There are many memories. Such as taking my daughter to day care. I would look at her and see such a beautiful little girl. This was when she was too young for preschool and too old to stay at home and be watch. We sat at the steps of where she would spend the next few hours. She supposedly would have fun playing with other kids and watching TV. But, we sat there and she told me that she does not like that place. She wished to stay home with me. And it hurt me to think I could not do anything to help her. I remember what it was like. And I had to go to work. My wife also worked. NYC is expensive. Soon, she got old enough to go to pre-K. She wasn’t thrilled with the change. But, she soon found it better with a teacher instead of a baby sitter. Soon, we learned she had a learning disability. I knew there was nothing I could do to change this. Spent the entire night awake with this. Going over it in my head and wishing so much it wasn’t true. In the morning, finally accepting it. My wife never did. She kept looking for blame. So, we saved up enough to move to up state NY, out of the city (too expensive). Bought a house in a good neighborhood. Better schools to give her a chance. Schools in the city were over crowded. She just wasn’t getting the services she needed. But, here she got better in school. I do not think of her as disabled. Just different. This year she graduated high school. We came back today from an interview with a college counselor about her courses and any help she can get in school. Really proud of her.
So, some bad memories and some good ones. Hopefully I get to keep them for a little bit longer. Time flies.
TommyParticipantOh, wow, so much, … BS. No not the right word. You seem to be extremely cerebral. Chop wood carry water is simple. There is nothing special about enlightenment. Before chop wood carry water. Normal parts of life. After chop wood carry water. Basic part of life. Realizing that there a part of me that is exactly like that part in you. That it permeates the universe. Life remains the same. What is there to experience is natural and unchanging.. Viewing life thru someone else’s eyes? Temporal, measuring, ego? Drop this monkey mind and push forward onto the truth. Good luck.
TommyParticipantAn abusive parent would be one who only deals with their own wants and needs and neglects the child’s wants and needs. A good parent lets the child grow. Watches for those milestones which indicate proper growth. Feeds and clothes the baby. Clean when needed. Baths and changings.
And much talking. Yes, talking. Thru talking the baby learns language and learns to interpret sounds. Exploring is how they grow. And baby proofing is how we feel better that they will be safe. Cabinets with chemicals are locked up. Windows have safety bars. Dangerous areas like kitchens are bordered off to keep baby from hot stove or cold refrigerators or knives. And baby always has their own place to sleep. Of course touch is important.
Some say not to hold the baby too much. Others say (me included) to hold the baby when you can cause you won’t be able to when they are older. And then when they find everything curious and ask a thousand questions, use your imagination to answer with thought and love.
They will then grow up to be self centered. Everything is about them. But, that is how we made the world for them. It has always been about the baby. But, we talk it out. And they grow. We give good advice and they disappoint. Hopefully they learn enough to be good people and have children of their own that you can spoil. Yes, we do discipline but not harshly. Appeal to their minds and sense of love and justice.
The amazing thing is that children will learn to forgive our mistakes and we continue to move forward. Sorry for the rant.
TommyParticipantNo one wants to read my posts but, I am stubborn. Yeah, sometimes, a person can get comfortable enough that they control everything. When something goes a little awry yelling and saying things not so loving comes out. I get that a lot from my wife. It does hurt sometimes but, I am a man and have grown up to be resistant to this. Thing must be done whenever she wants it done. I am always wrong in what I do. blah, blah. I take it. Your partner might have gone thru something similar. It doesn’t mean there is no love. Just that current events have taken their toll. A break is never good. But hopefully it will turn out right for both parties.
Keep your distance as necessary but also keep lines of communication open. Working on yourself? Tough when there is no sounding board. A reflection of the things you do that bothers her. How do you change something you are not aware of? I had these problems. So spent lots of time in meditation. Ended up with much reflection of my actions. Insights? And sleeping with my head leaning to one side while sitting up. Okay skip me.
TommyParticipantDear MERIATEN TASHERIT,
Have you tried seeing a doctor about your symptoms? What were you wearing in Washington, DC train station? Could that have precipitated the attack? Maybe you ate red meat? Or drink alcohol? Maybe your smell?
I am sorry. Did not mean that. Just to show you not to blame the victim. You weren’t to blame for being attacked. And the other person in the other thread was not to blame for being attack by the dog. They may sound like innocent questions but not to the victim. It makes it sound like the victim did something wrong. To make the bad thing to happen. That is the last thing they need to hear. Luckily that was a very old thread and I doubt she has returned to see your response.
You were in the train station and attacked. I am very sorry to hear that. Hope you caught the person and got some measure of justice. I also hope you are getting better. Yeah, I am a son of a B…. Angry and stupid and all that good stuff. I am not afraid to speak up. But, I do apologize for being rude. I guess I wanted to shock you into realizing what you say and how it feels with the tables turned on you.
Okay, nice to see a new face here. Welcome. Helcat and Anita are two of the nicest people on here. They have helped many who come here for a word of kindness or advice. If you want to help or want help they can be the best people to talk to. They are nice not like me. Well, see you around the forum.
TommyParticipantDear JessicaEmily,
It was not bad luck that you were born into such a horrible situation. That was just life. What was good luck is that you still seem sane and able to cope (for now). Buddhism might have helped you transition from a bad situation. What you might need now is (and I can not believe I am saying this), is to take up a self defense course. This is to develop a sense of self that is in charge, in control. It makes standing up for yourself as an ability rather than a stance against fear. It is okay to fight fear but better when there is something to back it up. I do not advocate fighting but defense. Buddhist monks in China had Kung Fu to help them keep fit for those long hours of meditation. It also made it easier to not be mistreated.
Please do not listen to any one who points their crap at you. Meaning, it doesn’t matter what you eat or drink. A dog should not be attacking you. No excuses. You deserve respect. Oh, how I wish I could have given this advice when you needed it instead of years later.
No, no one is prone for a life of bad luck. Change yourself and the world will change also.
TommyParticipantDear Helcat,
Thanks. Looked up Beth on Youttube.com. She is full of lots of information. Too much for me to comprehend. So, my head tends to bow out of such talks. I am a simple person. Not too smart and no head for so much information. I just get confused and lost in all that.
In older days when monks travelled from one temple to another, battle of the Dharma talks were common. If the travelling monk can win the battle of the Dharma then they get to stay at the Temple for the night. If not then they must move on. So one day, a travelling monk arrives at this Temple. The Abbot is too busy to greet the travelling monk. So, he asked his disciple to greet the travelling monk. His disciple only has one eye from birth. And he is a rather large man. So, he goes to greet the travelling monk. The travelling monk greet the monk with a bow. And the battel begins in silence. First the traveling monk puts up one finger. The disciple puts up two fingers. The monk puts up three fingers and the disciple puts up his fist. The travelling monk quickly bows and leaves. The abbot after finishing his other business sees the monk and asked him what happened. The monk says that he put up one finger to show the one true Dharma. Then the disciple put up two fingers to show the duality of the world. The monk says he put up three finger to show the three jewels. The disciple then put up his fist to show everything is one. So, admitted losing and quickly left. The Abbot then sees his disciple and asked what had happened. The disciple says that the monk was rude and put up one finger to show that I only had one eye. I put up two fingers to congratulate him on his two eyes. The the monk insults me by putting three fingers up to show that together we have thee eyes. I was so angry I put my fist up ready to pound him. He then got up and rushed out. So what is the moral of the story? I do not know. I guess whatever is in your mind at the time is what makes up the world around you.
TommyParticipantDear Helcat,
That does sound true. But if one achieves stillness then what? It can’t be just to find the stillness. Something else has to arise from this not just stillness. Moving one’s center from this chaotic mind to the stillness should provide more than calm. Not that in practice, we look to achieve anything. And anything achieved would become meaningless unless we learn and understand the truth of the Buddha nature. That the thing that is me is the same thing that is you.
I am sorry if I sound confused. Lately, anytime I wake in the night, I spend some time sitting up with my eyes closed and watching my breath. It doesn’t make for much sleep. But being retired, I don’t get up to go to a job. I get up to make family breakfast and lunch and dinner. Do laundry. Clean around the house. Feed the chickens. That time i spend just sitting is something I enjoy. Even though, I never remember how I got into a different position when I wake. Sometimes, I have woken up while still in the sitting position. Head slumped over.
Tommy
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