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November 25, 2018 at 4:01 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #248557JohnParticipant
Well. I had a pretty good weekend. Became a grandpa on Friday. Cute little man!
had a pretty good weekend with my girlfriend although we did get in a pretty bad fight Friday night. We made up Saturday morning.
Today was the only day I really thought about my ex. I did each other day. But not for very long.
im defiantly missing her today though. This time of year is so hard. It’s hard not to wish that I could go back. I know that I can’t and that it may have not changed things. Just tough. Especially seeing commercials about true love and jewelry. She loved her jewelry. There are still so many little things that draw me in and it’s hard to move past it
It really hurts today though. I’m really working on trying to let those memories and thoughts pass through. Very hard though. I just want to hold her. To see her smile at me. Even just here her voice. It’s killing me. I hope that I can get through today feeling better.
November 21, 2018 at 12:55 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #240107JohnParticipantYou should not be responsible for taking care of her kids.
yes I agree and she feels the same way. Just kind of worked out this way. She is in that bracket where she makes too much for assistance for daycare and the hours she would need are stupid. from 4PM until 3-4AM Sunday thru Thursday. Her work screwed her on her schedule. Neither of us foresaw this happening. She is still trying to find a dayshift job so she can be at home when she can. It breaks her heart every night she works. She knows that I can’t do this forever too. If nothing changes by the beginning of the year, i may have to end things. I do know that.
You ARE still letting yourself ruminate on the things you miss about your ex, though, so that’s something you’ll want to work on, too.
I agree. It is difficult sometimes. I still get those damn glimmers of hope. I do keep telling myself that that past is over. That what we had was amazing, but it is done, she is done and has moved on with another man whom she may or may not be with for the rest of her life. And that I need to do the same… I hate it that I’m such a romantic though. I still get that feeling.” she does still love me, she just can’t do it right now” which she may, but she is done now. I can’t sit and hope and wait. I need to move on and do for me…
November 21, 2018 at 7:55 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #240021JohnParticipantwell. Last night was a little rough. I really need my girlfriend to find a job with dayshift weekday work schedule like mine. It’s my week without my kids. She is working, and I am at home watching her kids again 🙁 I just wanted to get away for a bit. Go hang with friends at the bar, or something. Instead, i’m home doing homework with kids, cooking, cleaning, helping them, getting them ready for bed and school the next day.
It’s nights like last night that does make it hard for me. That I really miss what I had with my ex. I would of went down to see her normally usually once a week night every two weeks. And last night would of been that night. I do miss that. I almost miss just getting out and away from my house and life here and there more than missing her?, I think?? don’t know…
So, in my depression and whatnot. I was bad, got on FB and searched her name. I didn’t expect anything to show up because she had blocked me last time we messaged and told me pretty much to leave her alone, ect… However, I had this weird feeling in my gut. I can’t explain it. But something that made me question it and search.
anyways, wouldn’t you know it, she unblocked me. We are not friends on FB, so I can’t see any new posts or pics or anything since she unfriended me after we broke up.
I didn’t try messaging her or anything. I had a moment of weakness and searched her, that was it.
It did make me question though… Why would she unblock me? If you are done with someone, and they are blocked, then why go through the trouble of unblocking them?? Very confusing. I asked my friend. She told me that she thinks that my ex likes to mess with me. To keep me just a little bit there in a way. To reel me in and then push me away.
I agreed to a point, but then also have to wonder if she does miss me and searched my name and just wanted to see pics?
Then i thought… SEE! This is what started to mess everything up in my head in the first place! Anytime she did anything, I started to overthink every little thing and assume shit. Instead of just thinking she did what she did for reasons i don’t know.
I do want to contact her again, but I know that it would just make things worse for me. So i’m not going to. I do have a journal on my phone that i’ve been writing in occasionally when i do want to contact her. That does help a lot too.
It is funny about how we had talked about the addiction and motivation when it comes to this. As soon as I saw that she had unblocked me, I got all amped up. Motivated, happy, ect… It’s freaking stupid how that works. How the mind works. I then decided. I’m just going to keep on keeping on. I’m determined to get back into the person I was. The person that used to do crap all the time, share it on FB with my friends, ect… Be happy and proud of who i am and what i do. That’s who I used to be. happy go lucky, goofy, having fun with whatever. Sharing my life with the world. I used to love that. Who knows, if I force my self to do some of those things, maybe it will make me happier…
November 20, 2018 at 12:31 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #239889JohnParticipantthanks Valora, you have so many valid points. It really helps me to see another perspective on this. In so many ways, it would be nice to be with her again, but until both of us take care of our own issues, it would end up badly. I can see that now. Thank you.
I am really working on letting her go. I think i’ve kept telling myself “someday we will be together”. I’m trying to tell myself now that we won’t. That she is gone and what we had is gone. It’s very hard not wanting that again with her though.
November 20, 2018 at 6:24 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238635JohnParticipant. I kind of think it’s silly she considers that betraying her trust anyway.
she was a little funny that way. Basically what was the final straw or her excuse was that I copied and pasted a text she had sent to me, and I accidentally sent it to back to her by mistake. She is very private and isn’t one to “parade” her feelings, ect.. Anything said or done was special, just between us. So the idea of me sharing that text, especially with her friend “talking behind her back” Felt like a huge betrayal to her, and that I lied to her about it, then also lied to her about how i felt. I never told her how i really felt about things when they went south. I always told her, it was okay and I understand. Which was a lie. It wasn’t and I didn’t.
She has a really big issue with lying. She told me from the beginning about that. So in a way i was lying to her for a little while.
I’m not sure she’d be worth having back anyway because there’s a certain lack of understanding there, especially since she’s the one who betrayed your trust to begin with
this speaks volumes to me. Weather or not she did cheat on me. I still feel like she lied to me and betrayed my trust. I trusted her with my heart. I trusted that she would be upfront and honest with me about things. Instead of not saying anything until she had had enough. I guess we are both kind of guilty of some of the same things, the difference is that I was willing to do whatever it took to push through that hard time. For her, it got rough and she bailed. That really hurt. Someone that had told me she would always protect my heart. Even promised it. Then when my heart was on the line. She left. To me, that is someone that feels guilty about something. whatever it may have been.
Thanks again. I had a decent night last night btw. I did have some reoccurring thoughts, but i tried to stay busy cleaning and stuff. I was even able to get 6 hours of sleep!!
Got to get to work. I’m sure i will be back on here later.
November 19, 2018 at 2:52 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238533JohnParticipantSo, first let me say, i’m not counting on this or anything. More of a curiosity thing.
Since you were in a similar situation ( I don’t know the details), My break up was pretty bad. Afterwards she felt I betrayed her trust by confiding in her friend and i did get kind of crazy.
Lets say down the road, maybe years from now or not. Having that feeling of betrayal. Even though it was nothing like cheating or anything. But feeling like you were lied to and betrayed. Is that something you would be able to overcome and over look, or would you always have an issue?
I know for me. Even if she had cheated on my(which i have no idea if she did or not(even emotionally). I love her enough that I would try to work through it and try to rebuild. But then again that’s me. I’m not the one the broke up with her. Just curious about a woman opinion on something like this.
I’m not looking for hope or something to cling on to. Just a curiosity of mine. My girlfriend I have now. She knew about my ex, but didn’t know i was talking to her as much as I was. When she found out she was really hurt I have caused trust issues. She loves me enough that she wants to push through and rebuild the trust she once had in me. I feel awful about it btw. That is not the person I really am. I was in a bad place and didn’t know what i was doing. still no excuse.
November 19, 2018 at 12:19 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238495JohnParticipantThanks again Valora. I do have a question for you if you don’t mind? More of a curiosity thing.
November 19, 2018 at 10:44 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238473JohnParticipantValora, How did you get so smart? Seriously. You have so much good and wise advice. I really appreciate it.
You make a really good point of letting go of the past. If i’m understanding this right. I can let go of what i had with her. with everything. But i don’t have to let go of her or still having feelings for her? I hope that’s what you meant. That’s what i’m getting from it. I’m sure I will always love her and letting go of the past doesn’t mean i’m deleting her from my heart?
I do think that’s huge for me. The fact that I’m holding on to an old thing that will never be what it was and if we do ever end up part of each others lives, we do need to start something new, not trying to rebuild off of what we had because it was toxic. As much as I loved it and her, it wasn’t a healthy relationship, especially at the end. The fact that she couldn’t really talk to me when she was having issues and i couldn’t tell her how i was really feeling.
I keep trying to analyze everything, thinking that if i can fully understand everything that i can make myself better and somehow she will see that and come back to me. Thinking, if i just do this or say that. Things will come around. I’ve been thinking and going about this all wrong. Instead of making myself better for her, or to be the man she wants. I need to make myself better for me. To be the man I want to be. I feel like i was always trying so hard to be something that I thought she wanted or needed, that i forgot who i really was. When the reality is. She fell in love with me, not some golden image of an idealistic man i made up in my head whenever something would go south. That insecurity I had really messed things up for me. Really changed me in a bad way and made me so clingy and questioned every little thing with her.
I was thinking today. She is with someone else. Almost for a year now. Who’s to say that she is or is not truly in love with this guy. That maybe he is the one for her. She may have been the one for me, what i needed. But maybe he is what she needs now and maybe I was what she needed before, to help her out of the hole she was in. To help her get out into the world again. Unless that ever changes, nothing will ever happen anyways. I really need to get that through my head. The fact that she is happy and has moved on with someone else. I need to learn how to be happy with what i have and forget about what i had. It is so hard to do though. So hard to get out of the mindset of thinking that i need to be this certain guy and say the right things instead of just being myself.
I’m going to start telling myself that she is gone. That i can’t force anything to change that. That i just need to do for myself, not for her. Telling myself is one thing though and doing it is another. It is difficult when i do miss her and what we had so much.
When i was with my girlfriend this weekend and was just being myself. I realized how much I stopped doing that with my ex. That anytime I did or said anything, I would analyze it first and try to do or say what she wanted instead of just who i was. I did change for the worst. Loving someone or something so much that you question everything about yourself cannot be healthy. I do know that. Practicing it is another thing though…
I’m going to do my best. I know that when my girlfriend can get a a same schedule with me it will help tremendously. One thing i’m going to really have to work on is being okay being a full time dad again. An example is this coming weekend. My girls are going to be with their mother all weekend. Normally I would have the whole weekend to do whatever I wanted to do. Know, i feel like i’m grounded. I need to be strong and if i want to do something, tell my girlfriend that I need some time alone for myself, instead of thinking i need to be there and sacrifice what i need and want because she has her kids. That’s what i did with my ex. That was one of my bigger mistakes. I stopped living my own life. I would suspend everything just incase we were going to do anything and then if we didn’t, instead of seizing the moment, i would dwell on it and pout and guilt trip her. Not a way to love someone and be in a health relationship.
November 18, 2018 at 8:25 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238341JohnParticipantValora, in response to your question. Why don’t I want to let her go.
I think it’s because I’m letting go of everything. It feels like I’m letting go of ever being with her again. Of really saying goodbye. I never really gave it a whole lot of thought. But letting go of her to me means letting go of the best thing I ever had in my life. Letting go of the idea of never having that again. I know what you’ve said about if it’s meant to be that it will happen someday I think I’m hanging on so tight to what I had with her because I don’t want it to end. Like I’m still living in the fantasy of what I had with her. I guess a good example is some friends of mine took a weekend retreat this last weekend and posted all about it. It really tugged at my heart because that was the life I used to have. The romance I had with her. The fun. It hurts to see other people like that. Because it reminds me of what I had . It’s so hard to accept that that is gone for what seems like forever. So hard to be happy for what I did have when I had it.
I know I have to quit comparing relationships that’s not fair to anyone and only makes things worse.
i agree with you 100% on focusing on me. It’s very hard though. I want to be healthy. Eat better. Lose wieght. And quit smoking. But whenever I start to do those things I get depressed. I think about how I was a hypocrite with her because I was always trying to help her with her things. Being healthy and losing weight and I said I would do it to and never did. It’s like no matter what I do it brings me back to her. I do know when I am busy. It helps a lot. Also though when I’m home alone watching my girlfriends kids. It makes it worse. Really conflicting.
I did have a pretty good weekend. My girlfriend and I got out for a couple hours on Friday night. I took all the girls out to lunch on saaturday. Then Saturday night my girlfriend went out and had dinner. Then today hit. She was going to work and I started feeling depressed. It’s like whe I feel tied down. I really need to get over this. It’s so exhausting. I want to be happy again. I’m so tired of this feeling.
November 16, 2018 at 2:07 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238087JohnParticipantI am trying to get it in my head that no matter what I did that it wouldn’t of worked. It is very hard though when I changed into someone else during our relationship. However, I do think if i would of stood up to her, she may have still felt guilty and such. Making it to a point where she would want to end things.
Like I said, i will never really know for sure. It’s just hard to let those thoughts go. Hard to move on and enjoy life now. Fridays are the worst. That’s when i got most excited, cause I was going to see her. I’m trying to be that way now with my girlfriend cause we only get fridays and saturdays together.
November 16, 2018 at 9:52 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #238005JohnParticipantkhasxo, your relationship sounded amazing. Seriously it was how i felt. Mine was a little bumpier, however we never really fought either, we clicked like you mentioned in yours. it was nuts how well we got along and fed off of each other.
Valora, i’m trying to forget those thoughts when they hit. Honestly it feels like they are coming more and more now though. I don’t know what’s going on with my head. I think i have cried everyday this week. twice one day.
I’ve been feeling regrets all week. this morning was especially hard for me. I woke up just before my girlfriend got home from work at 3AM. We talked about her work and then she fell asleep. i wasn’t able to. I started thinking about “everything” again. I tried not to, but it consumed me. I wasn’t able to fall back asleep.
I understand that no matter what i did or didn’t do, that the outcome may have been the same. I think the hardest thing is knowing that i wasn’t my self and I was a coward. I don’t know if i would feel any better about this, if i would have done things differently. For example, when she told me I was not going to the wedding and I just took it like a shmuck. I should of told her exactly how I felt. I was freaking pissed and i said nothing! This was something that we had planned on for at least 6 months. In fact when we found out about it, she told me I WAS GOING. no choice. LOL. She even said she was going to pay for me to go. It was that important to her. And then just a month and a week before then she was there for the bachorlette party and she told me that she talked with her brother about me. quite a bit. And that they were excited to meet me. The fact that when she told me I wasn’t going and i just sat there. “okay, i understand” GOD!!! I didn’t! I didn’t know why in the hell i wasn’t a part of her life enough to be there by her side when her brother got married. It killed me. I wanted to tell her, “that’s bullshit! This is something we have planned for months now, and for you to take that away.” and that “I thought I was a part of your family, what better than to meet them all” Even if it would of caused pain and hurt, at least I would of been honest with her and myself. There were so many incidents at the end that i did that. I didn’t stand up, even after she told me too. She said several times, ” don’t be a doormat, not even to me”. I still was. I just took it and took it and took it. When we started talking again, she would ask me questions about us. Like she asked me if I thought her expectations were too high. I did in the end I felt like sometimes I couldn’t meet up to what she expected of me. So what did i say? “No, mine were. I expected too much” I kept lying to both of us and being a coward. That’s how I feel.
I really do think that is one of the reasons this is so freaking hard. I stopped being myself. And as soon as i did, that’s when things started to go bad.
She even told me once that i need to teach my girls better responsibility, make them start doing chores, ect… My girls are now 8 and 12 BTW. When she told me that, all i could think is WTF? How can you tell me that, but yet you let your 17 and 19 yr old boys walk all over you. It was like pulling teeth just to get them to take out the garbage or clean up after themselves, and then anytime they needed anything, even $20 for fast food. She was right there giving in. I wanted to tell her” how can you tell me this, when you don’t do the same or worse with your boys?” and I didn’t. Again, i just took it.
It absolutely kills me that i changed into such a insecure coward and didn’t speak my mind. I did for them most part of our relationship and that worked. Then I stopped, i just got pouty and butthurt, I wasn’t a man. She needed that, we needed that. for me to be independent and not so co-dependant.
Who knows if i wouldn’t of changed into that pile of sappy, spineless, little boy what the outcome may have been? maybe we would of split up sooner? maybe not? I’ll never know. I do know that me having that regret of changing into someone I wasn’t, thinking that it was for the best. Holding my tongue and feelings to myself is a huge regret and very hard to think about forgiving myself.
I know all i can do is learn from this, and make better choices in the future. It just hurts so bad. It hurts that i was knowingly being that way and I still didn’t do anything about it.
Another regret i have is when we were talking afterwards, and she told me “I trusted you, and you betrayed my trust” (me going behind her back, talking to her friend about what was going on). “do you know how much that hurt me?”. I didn’t have a response for her. I was thinking though. I wanted to say ” do you know how much it hurt me to have you kick me out of your family weekend that we had planned for half a year, pretty much ignore me all weekend, then when you came back, not talk to me for a week, then tell me you needed a break and not give me any reasons why? Just treat me like a stranger?” ” do you know how much that broke my heart and mind”. But nooooo, i just took it, didn’t once defend myself or anything. OH Man! makes me so angry, upset, hurt, and more.
I feel like i cheated myself out of being able to say what i needed to say.
How do you let go of those kind of regrets?
It’s so hard. not ever knowing if i wouldn’t have changed into that pathetic person that was too afraid to do or say anything, to tell her how I really felt, what the outcome would have been. Yes, I know i can’t focus on the “could of, should of” crap. It’s hard not to though.
Yes i do know it takes two. but looking back, i think she was telling me these things, in her own way. I do think that she should of taken the time and met with me and actually talked to me face to face about what was happening when she needed a break, instead of just a text message. That would of helped me tremendously. That is on her.
ugh. so many mixed feelings every single day! I hate this so much.
So, i’m just mainly angry venting here. I need an outlet and unfortunately you all are it. Again, i appreciate you all listening and helping. Hearing all you stories does help me. Helps me know that i’m not a freak. Gives me hope that I can get passed this someday. You don’t know how much it means to me.
I wish that i would of had the balls to stand up and talk to my ex like i have all of you. I think it would have made a world of difference as to how i am doing now.
November 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #237027JohnParticipantKhasxo,
I can most definitely relate. That + being an absolute hopeless romantic and believing that love conquers all and ‘whatever is yours will always find its way back to you’ and ‘this kind of love only comes once in a lifetime’ are only some of the thing’s that keep me in this phase of being unable to let go! It’s so exhausting!
It’s ridiculous that I am almost willing to put aside all of the past hurt, trauma, my wants & needs just to be with this man because having him in my life means more than anything else in the world. Rationally I realise that’s not healthy. As you say, it’s an addiction. But nonetheless, the heart wants what it wants! It’s messed up.
I couldn’t of said it better. If i could ask you something? What was it that ended your relationship? I know for me if she was to come back, i would jump on it in a heart beat. No matter what it was. Even if she had cheated on me. It would be hard, but i would have to try.
Reality doesn’t accommodates our fantasies… fantasy feels better but it isn’t better in between those temporary thrills of emotion. And when the thrill is over for good, then… look at your devastation. Holding on to Fantasy is simply not worth it.
I agree with you 100%. As my girlfriend told me. That life i did have with my ex was a fantasy. It wasn’t real. She was a weekend girlfriend, so of coarse when we did have time together it was always amazing. Always fun. As i’m writing this, i’m thinking of my oldest daughter. I only got her every other weekend. In that relationship, we had fun every time i had her. there wasn’t time for bad times. We had to make the most of the time we did have. I guess that’s similar to what i had with my ex. since i only got to see her limited time, when we did get that. We did fun things. Planned fun things. Even if it was staying at home watching shitty movies. It was fun and exciting and our real world problems didn’t exist because we didn’t let them, until hers became too much and then they became a part of our lives on a regular basis. Taking away from the “fun” and being able to escape from reality. It’s just so hard to let that go, and be done. It was like a drug. The most addictive and powerful drug ever. That all being said. I do know that i loved her, still love her more than anything in this world and universe. I would still give anything for her, even if i wasn’t going to be with her. If she needed something i would do it without any question and not care about any consequence of it. It kills me to know this about myself also.
I was in a situation very similar to what you are describing and I felt the very same emotions you are also describing. I knew that they were not rational and not based in reality. You will get through this. I promise. Try and stop those pink cloud fantasy thoughts with gratitude for the here and now. Be present
I am trying to stop those thoughts. Being a hopeless romantic doesn’t help me at all. I try to think about if we did live together or were able to see each other all the time. Would i have had enough, or would we of gotten to each other too much that it would of killed it also.
Some things, reasons i do blame myself is that she did tell me that all she needed was for me to just listen, not to try to fix anything or make it better. She just needed me to listen and i didn’t. I did some, but then i would turn the situation around and make it about me, or try to tell her what she needed to do. Which no one can tell you what to do or how to fix yourself. That is something you have to be able to do on your own. i’m learning this about myself now.
November 15, 2018 at 12:28 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #237017JohnParticipantsorry, i accidentally quoted everything at the end of my last post
November 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #237015JohnParticipantI just read Khasxo’s post. that’s crazy how much That sounds like me. Seriously. One day texting with my ex and BAM! back on it again, feeling alive again.
I wonder about these people as well. It was an addiction, still is. I do wish a lot that I would of never met her. She turned my life upside down. I feel like she brought out so much good in me that i didn’t know was there. I know that it was all me. I was the one that got motivated and positive about life. She just influenced it. But knowing it and feeling it are two different things.
I feel like i’ve tried everything i can to “move on”. I’ve tried the “mud balls”, i’ve tried taking her off that pedestal and thinking of all the things she did that hurt me and made me feel second. I think of how it did feel at the end that she judged me and i felt like I had to change who i was. I try thinking of what I have now and how much love is there for me, just waiting for me to embrace it.
It feels like no matter what I do, I end up back in this depression. this wondering. yes, this fantasy i’m in. I even think, its not over, she will come around sooner or later. I just have to wait and be patient. Even though I know that that’s all BS. I still get those thoughts. I hate myself for that. I hate that it feels like every little thing I do, see, hear, whatever reminds me of her.
I just wish I could be happy for what we did have and then be happy for what i have now. I just feel empty though.
“how long has she been The One, for you?”
Honestly, since i first met her. We physically met Nov. 7, 2016. within a week, I knew. I don’t know how she felt, but for me. I knew. I felt it so deep in my heart and bones it’s stupid. Thinking back, i started getting needy even then. I even told her then, I don’t understand why i’m being like this. I’ve never been like this. It was like from the time we met, I couldn’t get enough of her.
That’s part of the reason i have a hard time forgiving myself. It’s like i knew i was being that way, and I know from experience how that gets old and burdening to someone. And I couldn’t stop. I would even tell myself, I was going to chill and be cool, then before I knew what was happening, i was being like that again. it was like i was on the outside looking in and watching myself do these things, saying things to make her feel guilty, playing the victim and i still couldn’t stop. I hate it that i was like that. It drives me insane. I’ve never been like that before. Never.
November 15, 2018 at 10:26 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #237003JohnParticipant“This is something you need to forgive yourself for”
I’m trying to. It is so hard for me not to feel like this was all my doing. It has gotten me thinking so much about the person i am, then way i behave(d) and other things. I do know that i did change who I was with her. I think that is one of the harder things to accept and to be able to forgive.
I just don’t understand how every single day, i think of her. Why I can’t just let go and be okay with it. I understand the pedestal thing and mother type figure thing, but still. I would think with the girlfriend I have now, how much she does love me and shows it, that that would be enough.
I feel like i’m wearing all our your patience thin. (everyone that has responded). I am sorry. I have no where else to turn to.
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