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cali sisterParticipant
I agree. Since I watched her “enjoy so much” I think I have this pressure to APPEAR the same.
I am about to go on the same hike again. Bringing puppy with me. Let’s see how this goes
cali sisterParticipantI understand what you are saying Anita. I have a job. Always.
What I was trying to explain is how my mother, unlike us, does not have disabling anxieties or inability to feel joy, enjoy mountains, enjoy movies. She doesn’t even know. Her mental capacity is not like that of my sisters.
Map she will go to Costa Rica and it will be amazing. It is for ME that it is stressful and that I cannot enjoy.
cali sisterParticipantSo then. How would you go about a hiking experience. I think I’m having trouble understanding this because I don’t get how not thinking the surroundings are beautiful is my mother. She does indeed think they are beautiful
cali sisterParticipantI guess I don’t understand how I can relate other things to my mother. For example going to happy hour or hikes. She would never think of such things. So I’m having a difficult time applying what you have said
cali sisterParticipantThey are very dishonest and cruel.
When I was bullied in high school, I had to prove to my mother that it wasn’t my fault. She didn’t believe me at first. I came home crying one day and instead of trying to make me feel better, she immediately called my boyfriend at that time and said, “she keeps crying. You need to come. I don’t know what to do with her”
she is a bully to my sister and I, and when we have an actual problem – she bullies us more.
I remember being there when my sister came home and finally opened up to my parents. I remember where I was sitting. I remember feeling tight. Like I wanted to explode. Like I wanted to elicit a stronger response from them. I was young. And confused. And I saw my sister- coming for help. And like she said, all they continued to talk about even after she left was – how she’s always a problem. Never focuses on herself. Always focuses on friends and boys. Well, that’s your fault isn’t it?
cali sisterParticipantAnita,
thanks for reading my many posts. I just logged on any time I had a thought. I apologize in this post if sentences sound off- I’m typing from phone voice text
This freeze response you talk about – it doesn’t let me enjoy anything. I remember in Costa Rica we went swimming in this beautiful cave with a bunch of boulders and since the tour guide and everyone around me kept saying this is beautiful I thought this intense pressure to know and feel that it was beautiful so instead of enjoying the entire time I was thinking to myself do I think this is beautiful am I enjoying. Where I live right now has beautiful and amazing scenery and it is a famous destination in the entire country. Yesterday I went hiking and before I went hiking I read some reviews of the trail so I knew where to park the reviews or the directions to the trail simply said hike up the trail and enjoy the views well you hike. Boom. Those words “enjoy the views” – an incredible amount of anxiety. Do you entire time I was hiking instead of feeling the mountains instead of knowing that nature on it all is beautiful I was questioning is this beautiful. I would stop at certain points taking breaks and trying to also feel that feeling that everyone else has that wow this is such a beautiful relaxing experience. This thought consumes me. For days. I think how come these scenes are so beautiful. How come everyone thinks nature is beautiful. It’s an objective thing that everyone agrees on. It is OBJECTIVE. So why can’t I feel it?
Last night for the first time I went on the suicide prevention hotline website I didn’t call but I did try to do the chat thing not because in that moment I was actually feeling suicidal per se but I just wanted to see what they tell me or what they would tell me. The way it ended up being too long that I actually fell asleep however while you wait they have the link that you can press the call it safe space. I clicked on it and the first two videos are of mountains. And I think to myself of course of course this will be relaxing video that they’re posting because this is supposed to be truly objectively a relaxing thing this is natural this of nature. But of course this mountain scene cost me even more anxiety so it was not safe space for me
With regard to experiences of going out and hang out socially I also am not able to enjoy them not only because I feel the same inside all the time but also because I never believe these experiences because in my life all of them have always ended. I only know friendships that don’t end well I only know boys that don’t end well. So to me whenever I experience an event with a friend it’s hard for me to fully immerse in it because I don’t even believe it’s a real.
Lastly, I want to say I truly don’t know how it is not possible to feel so alone when I am alone how can I feel not alone when I literally don’t have anyone. (This obviously shows how much faith I have in my current friendships) for all of the friends that I have right now, I am the secondary friend. My friend that is getting married next year, I am a bridesmaid in her wedding. However I am in no way someone that comes to her mind first her life is filled with so much that I am just secondary. What happens with me, is that all friends all people become my primary because I don’t have a primary I don’t have the family. So I am alone it is a fact per se if you actually were looking at amounts of people. So if you look at it objectively or like a math equation how can I not be alone?
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by cali sister.
cali sisterParticipantMost of the time I just find myself angry at the puppy. Doesn’t allow me to ever just be and relax. I know I love animals but to be honest, he literally came into my life out of no where. It was not planned. Since my parents just basically dumped him on me. Probably not the best timing for me to have a dog. But I didn’t quite choose it. Poor thing. I don’t want to feel like this about him. I am so angry at him right now. The reason I’m even awake and hardly sleep well is because he wakes me. He is an added stressor in my life. Not a benefit that most people claim to say dogs are. I truly love animals, possibly more than anyone I know. So admitting this – is very truthful and difficult. I take care of him very well. Of course. He is in NO WAY neglected. He is amazing and cute and so loving. But unfortunately to me, I do all these things for him bc I know it’s the right thing, but I just feel stress. Not love
everything feels like a chore. I eat because I have to. Make sure puppy gets energy out bc I have to. Go to work because I have to.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by cali sister.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by cali sister.
- This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by cali sister.
cali sisterParticipantTo me. I’m doing things because I have to until my end arrives. I don’t want to do anything. I don’t want to hang out with people. I don’t want to go to the movies. I don’t want to go to the dog park. These are al things I do because I have to in order to survive. I feel like that’s all I’m doing. I just have to survive until it’s my time to go. I think oh “I should meditate.” But for what. What is the point. Most of the time I have no desire to even live. I don’t get the point of it. I find nothing in this life. To me, it’s something that is forced on me and I have to keep going. It’s interesting. I never understand why people are so adamant on not letting people take their own lives. Isn’t it their own choice ? And why do people think they have the right to tell someone to live. Why is living something we have to do. I have always been so confused by this but afraid to admit it. What about life is so amazing that people are being told to continue on. Because to me, I wake up everyday and it is the biggest struggle ever to get through. It’s like I’m in a cursed game and can’t get out or to the next level. Nothing is enjoyable. I only do things so time will pass
cali sisterParticipantAnd when I go out. I feel like I have to put on all these nice clothes. I put on makeup. I do my hair. I anxiously have fun. But in my core I am so broken. So utterly broken. Unhappy. And lonely.
cali sisterParticipantI look around me and I cry. I see everything I’ve done around me. How hard I try to be happy and have a better living. I see it all and start to bawl. I see how much effort I put in and I truly feel so bad for myself. I hug myself. I am trying so hard. And yet, I mean this fully when I say it, I feel exactly the same way I’ve felt for years and years. I don’t understand the point of anything Anita. It always comes back to this horrible core feeling. I have two weeks where it’s not happening (it all feels fake and stressful anywya) and then boom. I feel no desires. I feel so many desires. I see the paintings I’ve painted that I hung up. I see the new elephant pillows I bought. I see the lights I have hung up. All the things I’ve done to make my home and make me happy. What is the point.
cali sisterParticipantAnd to add to that – I feel that every emotion I feel isn’t real. I feel like I never actually feel anything. It all seems fake. Like this made up world. When the reality is just the horrible truth in front of me
cali sisterParticipantWhat it all comes down to, Anita, is just that I feel oh so alone. Just completely alone.
And it won’t end. So when I question why I cry. Why I feel like this. It’s because I just thought it would someday get better. I am not living. I never have.
cali sisterParticipantMaybe because she found me as a nuisance ? And she didn’t NEED me. She had my dad. If he was not home, or going on the outing, I would of course be invited.
I don’t know her motivation. Maybe to bully me. I always sensed a slight hatred for me in her. She doesn’t have that with my sister. With me, it’s like she’s angry I’m alive. There’s many examples I have of this.
cali sisterParticipantAnita.
im letting it sink it. For the first time, I have no idea what to say.
cali sisterParticipantanita,
to respond to “It wouldn’t sound good to others if her daughters didn’t spend time with her, but her personal experience with either one of her daughters is not more than her experience with a stranger, is my thinking. If you recall how your mother behaves with strangers, do you think she is as happy, content and satisfied?”
– There have been countless times where my mother and father are taking a drive somewhere (this is when i lived at home) – and I always felt oh so lonely and never had great friendships. My father was always delighted for me to join them. always asked me to come. I have severe ptsd from moments when my mother would literally, LITERALLY, tell me not to come. she would uninvite me. she would say “no you don’t come. you just stay home” Do you know how unwanted i felt? This goes along with the concept of just PEOPLE. does not matter who it is. daughter or strangers. it’s just that there are people. i have DISTINCT memories of when people my mother basically hated would come over. when they would leave, she would cry the same way. she just needs to feel occupied. i am this way too, because of her. i find myself in moments where i am not occupied, just crying. when she is with others, i do not think she is happy, content, or satisfied. she is thinking of her next moments. the next day. “okay saturday is done and set up. now what am i doing tomorrow?” for my mother, everything is next next next. there is no such thing as being in the moment.
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