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October 10, 2023 at 4:52 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #422942HelcatParticipant
Hi Seaturtle
You’re welcome! I appreciate that you understood my intent which was to encourage you to share more about how you feel about your partner.
I’m going to reply in a couple of different parts because it’s getting late. But I can share my immediate thoughts now.
You seem like a very intelligent and self-aware young woman. You’ve already made some really important self-discoveries, well done!
There’s an idea about soulmates that I quite enjoy. Probably different from how you use the term. Still, I wonder your thoughts about it? Basically, soulmates can be friends, lovers, family. Anyone with a significant impact in our lives. The idea is that many different souls come into your life to teach you different things.
I really enjoy this idea, since I think who we choose to spend time with and why is very important because we learn from them as we spend time with them.
In some ways, I think we all teach each other when dating because it’s very much about compromise. Not every guy you date is the same and vice versa. We all have different preferences and needs. Dating is all about communicating and meeting each others needs.
By reading about how you feel about your partner you clearly love your partner, despite your differences. I think that you’re more decisive than you realize! You dump unsuitable guys very quickly, which is a great thing. It sounds like you chose to stay with your partner for a reason.
At any time please feel free to share your thoughts if you disagree. You know yourself much better than I do and I can very much be wrong!
Do you notice a pattern in how you feel about your partner and how your parents raised you?
For example, your father’s love being conditional. And your mother’s overcomforting doing her best to provide you with anything you wanted.
This could link to to the theory about learning from the people that we spend time with I mentioned earlier. Quite often we learn a lot from our parents, whether we like it or not.
Throughout your life you were taught that you deserve to have anything you want from your mother. Meanwhile, your father taught you that you should reject people when they “let you down”.
These messages could translate to the conflicting feelings that you have about your partner? What do you think?
For example, he should be perfect and share my favourite interests with me, spirituality and comedy. But he doesn’t! So maybe he’s not the right person for me.
I hope that I haven’t hurt you by simplifying it to these points. I really just want to know if you see a pattern since you brought up your family history.
I hope that you feel comfortable enough to share any thoughts you have. ❤️
I will be able to share the rest of my thoughts tomorrow.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Alecsee
So you’ve been offered a job and you’re unsure about whether to take it or not.
You’ve been feeling hurt by the way your boss and others have been behaving at your current job. Is this behaviour likely to continue? You enjoy the work itself and having a schedule that gives you flexibility. At the same time, you recognize that this schedule can be a bit unhealthy.
The new job, you’re concerned it’s going to be not as interesting, potentially even boring. And you don’t like the idea of losing your freedom to travel.
I wonder though, do the number of vacation days increase at the new job depending on how many years you work there?
The new job provides a great pension which is tempting. Is there a difference in pay between the two roles?
You mentioned feeling nervous about change. That makes sense, there are a lot of unknowns with the new job. You don’t know how management will be, how the coworkers will be. Which is basically the main reason you even entertained the idea of looking for a new job in the first place.
My question is on your resume/cv is this job a step up career wise? Because if things are not suitable at the new place you might look for another job again.
If things are good at the new job, then really the only downside is not having as much freedom to travel.
I’d love to hear your more of thoughts. The only person who can really make this decision is you.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Luna
That’s quite alright! There is no rush 😊 I’m sorry to hear that your week had a lot of ups and downs. I’m glad that things seem to be calming down.
At the moment, I’m enjoying the chocolate apples available for Halloween. Here, the children go trick or treating and the adults get drunk at parties. My sister loves Halloween and enjoys dressing up for it. Usually, we watch horror movies together for Halloween. Do you have any favourite horror movies? The local woods are stunning this time of year now the leaves have changed colour.
Something special is happening for me. My husband and I are having our first child. I’m very nervous, as well as excited. The hormones are crazy! Ups and downs all of the time. I read a story about a pregnant lady crying over running out of orange juice early in the pregnancy and thought “That’s silly. I’ll never be like that…”. Well now I understand how she felt. 😂
Good luck with your poetry! If you would like to share any here you are welcome (it doesn’t have to be written by you, it could just be something that you enjoyed reading). I enjoy poetry too.
My favourite piece is by DH Lawrence:
I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Some may find it a little bleak. But for me it’s a nice reminder not to feel sorry for myself when things are difficult.</p>
That’s honestly fair! Everyone deserves to be treat with respect when they are courageous and brave with sharing their feelings. I think that you have a very positive view of rejection. I agree. The way I think about it is there are billions of people on the planet. We’re all looking for compatibility. It’s down to luck who we bump into and if they’re not compatible, it’s no ones fault. Good luck meeting someone that they are compatible with!That’s a really healthy view of a relationship. That’s honestly how I feel with my husband and why I married him. It was the first time I’d ever felt like that. I felt like he even accepted the parts of me that I didn’t like about myself. In a way, him loving me; being kind and supportive taught me how to love myself.
I stumbled through relationships for a while wondering what love was. It’s great that you already intuitively understand it. You already know what you’re looking for! Be patient because these types of relationship can be hard to find.
I’m glad that you didn’t find my story distressing. Dating isn’t always sunshine and roses. I think it’s important to be aware of difficulties on the dating scene too. I’m okay and happy to share these stories with you. ❤️
My next relationship was a long term one. My first long term relationship. It was long distance, we met online and enjoyed talking. I visited him and we even planned for me to move to be with him. I had a difficult family life, so I wasn’t sad to leave it behind. But still it was a big decision. Where this relationship broke down is that this partner didn’t communicate very well in-person. Whereas online he was very communicative. So it was like two different experiences in-person vs long distance. He couldn’t cope with having important conversations and shut down, so I ended the relationship. It was difficult because I loved him, but sometimes love alone isn’t enough.
I’m curious about your forward thinking. I’m only just starting to plan for the future, I was in survival mode for a lot of my life. I don’t want you to share things that you don’t feel comfortable with though. As you said, it is a public forum, so I totally respect your privacy.
Love and best wishes! 🙏
October 6, 2023 at 10:22 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #422846HelcatParticipantI would add that another thing to consider since you want children is time. Women have a clock on this whereas men don’t.
Whilst good men exist it can take some time to find one that you are most compatible with.
Would you be okay with giving up on the idea of children for a partner more compatible? It honestly depends on how old you are.
October 6, 2023 at 10:07 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #422845HelcatParticipantI’m trying to think how I knew that I wanted to be with my husband.
I would say that with him I felt loved and accepted for the first time in my life. I felt like I could share everything, not just the good parts of me. He accepted even the parts of me I don’t like about myself.
October 6, 2023 at 9:49 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #422844HelcatParticipantHi Seaturtle
I understand that you want to feel seen by someone with a similar perspective to you. This is similar to you wanting to be with someone who shares the same values as you, a theme of anxiety in your relationship.
But people are different. Even when you are with someone who feels similar to you, you start to learn how different you are. No two people are exactly alike.
I understand that you want to be liked for the things that you like about yourself. But being sweet and adventurous aren’t generic complements. Not everyone is sweet or adventurous. It is hard that your partner doesn’t specifically value parts of yourself that you do though.
You want him to say and feel and think exactly how you want, but realistically this is never going to happen with anyone. You might have some areas that you feel compatibility with, but not all. In every relationship you will have to get used to people acting in their own unique ways.
You mentioned difficulties flirting in your previous post. My husband didn’t know how to recognize flirting when I met him. I had to teach him to recognize when I was flirting. Have you tried teaching him about flirting?
I think the end goals being so vastly different is a bigger thing than you realize. To have his dream, you would have to give up yours. To have your dream, he would have to give up his. Is there a compromise that meets somewhere in the middle??? My mother gave me one piece of advice for relationships which I feel is true. That your goals should be compatible or the relationship won’t work. In my mind, this is a valid reason to part ways as there is no real future together if you can’t find one that suits both of your needs.
You describe the relationship as being good friends who have sex. That’s my understanding of what a relationship is.
You mention communication dying down as a difficulty in the relationship. Have you been in a long term relationship before? I feel like this is pretty common as people don’t have as much to talk about because they already know a lot about each other.
You are still in the relationship after two years despite feeling unsure. Do you worry that you are seeking perfection in a person? Or do you think that perhaps you’ve stayed together because he’s a good person and you worry that good people are hard to find? Does part of you feel like you might regret leaving him in the future? I guess what I’m asking is why you’ve stayed together for 2 years despite feeling uncomfortable?
It sounds like you might be fairly young. I have ended relationships with good people that I haven’t been compatible with in other areas.
Hygiene, cheating, lack of attraction, insecurity, lack of communication, lack of commitment. Often more than one of these occurring at the same time. Sometimes only one.
Regardless of other people’s perspectives on what you should do, or how you should feel your reasons for what you want to do are valid. You have free will! You don’t have to stay in a relationship that you feel uncomfortable with if you don’t want to. The question is do you want to stay together or not?
There will be other chances to meet good men. Will those good men ever meet all of your criteria? Probably not. There is always a measure of compromise no matter who you date.
I would suggest considering what you want in a relationship, as well as what you don’t want. Negotiables and non-negotiables.
I know that we are different people with different values, but I hope I haven’t made you feel uncomfortable. I do respect you, even though we are different. ❤️
Wishing you all of the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Sanj
Thank you for your kindness! I’m glad that you have found comfort with the tips you shared.
I’m struggling at the moment.
As a trauma victim there is no mental health support available during pregnancy. It hurts so much to deal with my fears regarding birth and parental intimacy without professional support. Pregnancy hormones don’t help either because they amplify my emotions a lot.
I seem to be jumping from topic to topic in my mind worrying about it. My mind tells me that this will help me to prepare. But I know that in the past, my mind has lied to me and this isn’t always true.
I started going to church which has been helping.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
October 6, 2023 at 7:09 am in reply to: Confused on How to Deal With This Side of My Boyfriend: Am I overreating? #422837HelcatParticipantOh and Teal Swan’s advice caused a fan of hers to commit suicide.
October 6, 2023 at 7:06 am in reply to: Confused on How to Deal With This Side of My Boyfriend: Am I overreating? #422836HelcatParticipantHi Lella
I agree with you that the arguments are abusive. I’ve spoken at length about the abusive behaviours present during the argument.
However, OP suggested that they occurred very infrequently, twice a year and otherwise she enjoyed her relationship.
I’m not going to encourage someone to leave a relationship that otherwise they appear to be happy with. In my opinion, it’s is their decision how they feel about their relationship and how they wish to proceed.
You’re welcome to your own opinion. I’m sorry that my opinion makes you feel infuriated.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
No worries, take your time! Good luck with the car and work issues.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
A continuation of my reply earlier.
I would say that your ex liking every single a Tinder matches photo since 2015 is concerning. I think logically you know this. Even if he did most of it in the past before he dated you, it sounds like he was still doing it during the relationship. His behaviour could suggest an obsession with this person. It’s not a nice feeling to be dating someone obsessed with another person.
He did you a disservice by dismissing how you felt about these issues. I’m guessing that you were being considerate and gentle with bringing up these issues and asking him to stop linking her sexy photos. A gentle inquiry was easy for him to refuse. Did you go a little deeper in your enquiry? If not, why not? Were you afraid of upsetting him? It’s tough because when people try to avoid discussing serious issues, sometimes you do need to push the issue and be direct about what is hurting you.
I can see how much pain you’re in about all of this. I think it’s really important when you’re in a lot of pain to try really hard to practice self care. Is there anything that usually you find comfort in? For me, this is talking to friends, petting my dogs and cat, walking the dogs, going outside (I really hate being stuck indoors), watching tv. Everyone has their own unique needs. What do you need that comforts you?
I’d like you to read this next part when you have a calmer moment.
So when we experience a lot of verbal abuse in our lives, we internalise it and begin to abuse ourselves. One trick to changing this behaviour is taking a key theme and practicing repeatedly negating that.
Hearing other people say nice things to us and reassure us cracks the door to the possibility of the negative thoughts being wrong. But it’s practicing intentionally challenging your own negative thoughts that changes the belief that you hold about yourself.
You expressed a lot of different themes. Picking one reoccurring thought in your own words is most helpful. For me, it was I’m not good enough.
I would suggest only practicing the following exercise when you are feeling calmer. I found it can trigger abusive thoughts otherwise, which isn’t helpful.
So for me, the phrase I challenged was not being good enough.
Step 1: What is a good person? What does it mean to you?
Step 2: What is a bad person? What does it mean to you?
Step 3: Do you share any traits in how you describe a good or a bad person?
I found a balanced approach to be helpful at first because my mind would totally reject being overly positive initially. I think I found considering things equally and logically made it hard to deny the good things about myself. I worked up to being totally positive after a lot of practice.
Step 4: Now that you’ve identified some good traits. Record evidence of these traits occurring in daily life. I found this to be a difficult task initially. Starting out small can be helpful.
For example, a stranger dropped their keys and I returned them. I treated my friend dinner. When X person was sad I comforted them.
Another helpful tool, was writing down compliments other people gave me.
Over time, repeatedly doing these activities can be helpful in changing internal beliefs about yourself.
When we abuse ourselves and have low self-esteem we don’t see ourselves for who we actually are. These exercises help us to acknowledge the good things about ourselves that we habitually ignore.
I don’t think you’re like your family. I think you’re like a flower stubbornly growing in the desert or the darkness reaching towards the light. You have faced challenging circumstances your whole life, ones that would make a less capable driven person give up and become cruel. You persist despite your challenging circumstances and you do so with kindness.
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
I think it’s really healthy and important that you are allowed to express painful feelings.
Did you ever hear the common saying that it takes half as long as you were in a relationship to get over it? So you dated for a year? That would mean that taking 6 months to process the break up is normal.
It’s really awful that you’re in a situation where friends and family are so wildly uncomfortable with people expressing normal healthy emotions. It’s abnormal to suppress feelings. When sad things happen, it’s appropriate to be sad. That’s what I meant by these feelings being normal.
No one should yell at you for having feelings. It’s really appalling to me. I’m so sorry that people are treating you like this. It’s like you’re being shamed for how you feel. I wish that I could tell them off for you and tell them if they don’t have anything kind to say, they should say nothing at all.
I think that what your ex said was very telling. I’m jealous too. I wish that I was attractive and travelling the world.
He’s very much telling you that he finds her attractive. All along, you have expressed concern about him being attracted to other women.
I think this is slightly different from liking sexy photos of someone he didn’t have any connection to. I think when there is a connection it’s actually hurtful. He’s got a habit of liking sexy photos of women he knew. It’s not like pornography. I can understand why you would feel threatened by that.
My husband was in communication with his ex that abused him when we started dating. He had a hard time expressing to her that he was actually hurt by the things she’d done. It made me uncomfortable because in the back of my mind I was afraid that they might get back together. I think the reason I accepted the communication and wasn’t as threatened by it was because of the abuse. I thought he needed time to process and actually stand up for himself. Eventually, he did!
It’s a different situation from what you experienced, but it’s very normal for people to have these feelings of concern about their partners having connections with others.
I think that you deserve a kudos for not overreacting. Contrary to what your ex believed. There are some people who behave unreasonably. Trying to ban contact with those they feel threatened by. There are some people who habitually check their partners phone because they don’t trust them. It’s different when your partner openly shows you.
I think that your request not to like sexy photos was a very appropriate boundary. You show a healthy understanding of boundaries and care for how your feelings impact others. I think because you’re aware of your insecurity insecurity issues you kept a watchful eye on it.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Luna
I’m going to put a trigger warning up at the top here, for the next relationship story I’m going to share at the end. So people know to stop reading if they don’t want to read something that is a sensitive topic and might make them feel uncomfortable.
I’m doing better thank you! How are you feeling?
I’ve always enjoyed the format of forums for the same reason. It’s nice to write something longer, thoughtfully at a slower pace sometimes.
Autumn is actually my favourite season too! I enjoy when the leaves change colour and fall from the trees. I walked by a lot of rich houses with trees on my way to school and there would be crispy fallen leaves on the path. I enjoyed shuffling through and kicking them. Such a simple pleasure. It reminds me of being a child again. It’s also not too hot and not too cold, so that’s a bonus.
Are you planning on going on vacation this autumn/winter? Or do you have anything that you’re looking forward to?
That is true, boundaries are very fluid in personal relationships. It’s a process of two people coming together and reaching an agreement on things, or not and parting ways. I tend to prefer professional relationships in the workplace for this reason. There are strict standards for behaviour. Personally, people’s perspectives vary a lot on which behaviours they find acceptable.
I would agree about not being too rigid in the filtering stage, as you call it.
Yes, the mixed signals about whether someone is trying to flirt or be friendly can be frustrating. I think it’s also difficult because some people are not straightforward if they like someone and can be afraid to let people know that they like them if they’re not sure the other person likes them back. Then again some people just enjoy flirting and don’t particularly want to go anywhere with it.
You mentioned that one difficulty you are having is finding someone who is on the same page as you about what makes a healthy relationship. I’m curious about what your idea of a healthy relationship is?
I agree, I think that’s why this forum is a great place, people can share in a safe space and get the opportunity to meet lots of kind people.
I’m glad that you’re enjoying my relationship stories. This next one is a not so fun a story, but sometimes dating is difficult.
I’m going to include another trigger warning here so anyone reading will know where the sensitive part is coming next.
So basically, there was this guy I liked who was a friend and I thought he liked me. He said he wasn’t ready for a relationship. We fell into a friends with benefits style situation briefly. It wasn’t my cup of tea. I suffered from low self-esteem and was told by my biological mother that this is what men wanted. Ultimately, the situation was too upsetting for me because previously I was a virgin and there were some consent issues because of abuse as a child. I wasn’t confident enough to outright say no to someone who didn’t make an effort to check if I was comfortable. After a couple of times I called the whole thing off because I was just getting upset afterwards.
I hope that wasn’t too tough to read. Wishing you all the best, it’s a pleasure talking as always! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Umaz
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your coworker and that they’ve put your job at risk. How are you feeling and coping with the instability at your job? Please take extra care of yourself during this difficult time.
I have a quick question for more context. Are there any issues with redundancy at your work?
I’m trying to gauge if he’s been sharing accurate information or not.
Some people are very straightforward and do share accurate information even if it is negative.
For example, I worked at a place with high turnover due to various issues. Most people who worked there were always looking for work elsewhere. When new staff were hired, for survival existing staff communicated what some of the issues were.
At my husband’s old company, everyone knew and talked about potential layoffs when the company ran into issues.
It is one of these things that people do talk about when there are issues.
Can you think of anything else that might be causing low morale in the team?
Unfortunately, as a manager it is your responsibility to handle difficult employees calmly, as well as various other difficulties too. It’s no easy task to manage a difficult employee!
As a human, arguments are understandable. But as an employee, they can get you fired.
Him only addressing other managers at meetings is disrespectful though.
It’s hard to say whether he was trying to be helpful or not by communicating that you might not be cut out for the role. Did you ever have any other issues with the coworker before you became manager?
Do you feel his comment about your emotions was a trigger for you? Does his behaviour remind you of anyone that you have had difficulties with in your personal life? I only ask this because this is something that I have experienced with coworkers I’ve had difficulties with.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
I think with your recent ex you’re placing too much responsibility on yourself. People struggle with the same issues they’ve always had in relationships. Likely, he’s always struggled with difficulty during natural conflict. He strikes me as a wishful thinker in positive times. I don’t think he meant harm during conflict. He just wanted you to feel better with minimal effort. Whilst he had his own issues and unhealthy behaviours. I don’t see things on the same scale as your abusive ex.
I’m so sorry to hear about your 4 year relationship with your abusive ex. Some of the things he said to you were awful. No wonder you experience difficulty with being assertive and boundaries. He emotionally beat you down to the point where you didn’t believe in yourself.
There’s a lot of information out there about assertive communication and ways to manage relationship conflict in a healthy way. A website I used to teach myself about it is called Skills You Need. It provides lots of theory, examples and it’s free.
You’re right, ultimately no one has to make any changes that they don’t want to. But if you think about healthy relationships, they’re about compromise. It’s not about making unreasonable requests, that would be controlling and abusive. But reasonable requests a partner may choose to consent to, because it enhances the relationship.
For example, with trust issues. I too don’t like the idea of flirting and I’m aware it does sometimes happen in relationships. My husband chose to consent to my request because it was reasonable, I was in no way attempting to limit his contact with his friends. He was aware that if he didn’t, I would likely continue to be concerned by his friends calling him pet names which would add unnecessary stress to the relationship. It’s all about working together to reduce stress. He cared about my comfort in the relationship.
I totally agree with your concerns about the previous ex with the Instagram account with the sexual pictures of barely legal girls. It would make me uncomfortable too. I am aware that some men think it’s okay to lust after younger women who are of legal age. Ethically, I don’t because of the age difference and differences in maturity. These are valid concerns. He was gaslighting you when you confronted him about these issues.
I don’t think you’re a negative person Stacy. Yes, you have anxiety and trust issues. There’s nothing wrong with that. Many people have similar issues, though they can manifest in different ways. I see these things as a product of your environment. You’ve experienced so much in your life. That ex you had lacked empathy for all of the painful experiences you’ve been through. Instead of praising your strength for doing your best to work your way through it all. He tore you down which is disgusting to me.
It comes more naturally for people with easier lives to be more confident. For people who have experienced a lot of trauma in their life these things are more difficult and take effort and active nurturing to achieve.
I’ve come from an abusive background growing up. I think the main thing a therapist did was challenge my unhealthy thoughts and teach me to spot abuse from others. Her belief in me as a person was very healing.
Outside of therapy I did a lot of work on my own to heal parts of myself that struggled with self-worth. This meant practising being kinder to myself. Restructuring and reframing negative thoughts. Lowering my anxiety. Forgiving and accepting myself. Working on personal development, so I could like myself as a person. Practicing meditation. Developing skills in assertiveness and practicing maintaining healthy boundaries.
After doing these things, I felt like I had all of the right pieces, but it didn’t click and fit in my head. Practising loving kindness meditation was the final step for me. I focused on nurturing positive loving feelings for others and in time that extended to myself.
At the end I realized that simply pursuing these changes, and starting this journey is an act of self love. Even if you don’t feel the results yet.
I was wondering, if you have a central negative thought about yourself? Mine was not feeling good enough or feeling unlovable.
You are truly a beautiful person Stacy! Your strength and kindness despite the difficulties you’ve experienced is inspiring.
Wishing you all the best! 🙏
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