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WillParticipant
Jade, I think you’re taking this very hard. But it’s not for anyone to say it’s foolish. This is how you feel, so feel it.
I think you idea of sending your love now to a future him is sweet, and expressing yourself in this way may just give you a measure of peace, which is something you clearly crave. So why not? Send your love for him three years into the future, and then try to let go of this need of having him acknowledge it. It is your love. You can treasure it, even if he doesn’t.
Metta to you in your pain.
WillParticipantSome feedback. Ok.
I think your life would be better if you stopped playing phone games, stopped obsessing about what your ex is doing, and stopped behaving in a way that you yourself think of as acting like a loser.
She’s gone. You’re going to still be thinking about her, but practice thinking about her in the past tense. Don’t contact her, don’t contact your friend for about a year or so, delete her on facebook and whatever, and if you see them around just say hi and walk the fuck on. They have nothing to do with you now. It’s time for the next chapter in your life.
Should you let go? A thousand times yes. Good luck.
WillParticipantNone of this is weird. You sound like a typical person in an abusive relationship. I think we’re past the stage of looking for red flags; you’re in abuse town. I’m sorry. It’s one of the worst places to live. But it’s up to you to rally your resources, your friends, everything you know and believe in, and work on getting out of there.
Every fight blind-sides you because she’s very good at the honeymoon stage: she makes you believe that the last time was really the last time and things are going to be different now and she loves you so much. But things haven’t changed. You are both trapped in this destructive pattern, and you won’t get out until you get out.
Please educate yourself on what intimate partner violence and emotional abuse is like, and what it feels like. And if you recognise yourself, and you will, have a think about whether you should be worried about whether you’re “justified” in staying, or whether you should be making escape plans. Of course you can rationalise and justify your decision to stay. If it was easy to leave abusive relationships, if it was obvious to recognise and get out from under the “mind control” it puts on you, no one would be in abusive relationships and the whole thing wouldn’t be an issue.
Listen to yourself. You’re the victim of mind control. You wish you could just have an evening with friends, but no. That’s not the kind of relationship you’re in. You feel like life is passing you by. You’ve given up on hobbies, on working, on your social life, on living your life in general. You feel like you’re under a spell. You know you should know better. You know the cycle of better, bad, better, bad isn’t going to end until you do something radical.
You say things aren’t so bad, in general, as a whole. Really? It sounds pretty bad to me. It sure doesn’t sound like something I’d want to put up with. Tell me, how bad do things need to get before you’ll want to get out? How much more of yourself are you willing to give away before you’ll realise it’s been enough?
It doesn’t matter if she loves you. It doesn’t matter if you love her. It doesn’t matter if the good times feel like good times. This relationship is bad for you. She is bad for you. Get out.
Get out get out get out get out.
WillParticipantI don’t know much about shadows and anima and what not, but I do know one thing: There is nothing, not one thing, that needs to be put off until one is thin. If you’d do it if you were thin, you can do it now.
Thinness, you see, is highly overrated.
As an aside, if you’re in a researchey mood, look into something called the arrival fallacy. Because I fear that might be something that’ll bite you in the behind one of these days.
Good luck on your path, all my best wishes to you.
WillParticipantThe best way to get out of it is step by step. And yes, I think the problem is your unhappy mental state and your isolation (they re-inforce each other), not this “incident” from over a decade ago, which is really no big deal.
WillParticipantNo, your real problem is that your brain is a massive troll and you need to stop feeding that troll.
Easier said then done, yes. Reading your story, I at first thought: oh, clearly time to move out. Then, oh, clearly time to get a job. Oh, wait, no, you need to continue your education. And get some counselling.
And now I think that any of those could be good. I’m glad you’re seeing a psychiatrist, because what’s holding you back is nothing but your ways of thinking. You could do any of these things if you stopped allowing your thoughts to talk you out of them.
I think Cognitive Behavioural Therapy might be able to help you reorder your brain so you have more useful thoughts (you can learn the principles from books but in person therapy is more effective). You could also look into Mindfulness, especially the “stress reduction” type courses that you can get in a lot of places, including online. It’s meditation based, but it’s really down to earth and it’s actually all about how you relate to your own thoughts and the stuff in your head.
Work on your mental attitude, and then it will become possible to get a job. And I agree I think it would be good for you. Better than sitting in your room anyway. Going out somewhere and meeting other people is also something I would recommend.
WillParticipantDo not ever speak to him again.
Go to the wedding.
Reason not to speak to him again: obvious. He is bad news, both in terms of drug use and in terms of cheating in the worst possible way (with your daughter? geez!).
Reason to attend her wedding: it’s your daughter’s wedding. It seems like your lives are pretty intertwined, with shared friends and activities. I understand you feel hurt at being betrayed again and it sucks that she’s not had the decency yet to apologise, but she will. And you will probably let her back into your life again, and by then she’ll be married, and it’ll be weird that you weren’t at the wedding. Maybe this guy she’s marrying is the real deal, and she’ll be with him for the rest of your life. Think of her wedding photos displayed in her home, and every time you see it you’ll remember you weren’t there, and why you weren’t there. This will seem like a messy nightmare in two year’s time.
Thank the universe for showing you that this guy really is not the right guy and accept that your daughter had to play her role in that. Express your pain to her, before the wedding, and go to the wedding.
WillParticipant“I hope none of these posts can be found by her somehow she will kill me. Lol not really but she’ll be pissed.”
Lol, picture my face. I assure you I’m not laughing. If your spouse would bite your head off about an honest post about how you feel, something is very wrong in your relationship.
You posted your story in a thread about abuse in a relationship, starting your post by saying “I recognise the things you guys are talking about.” You know that we established two of the other posters are talking about abusive relationships, right? That you recognise the stuff they talk about should make you think about the nature of your relationship.
From what you’ve said, being with this woman has turned you from an outgoing, sexually active, working woman into a ‘homebody’ whose main task, if I may paraphrase, is managing the moods and jealousies of her wife. This woman seems to be controlling you in a way that’s keeping you from living your life. You look at your old friends on facebook and feel like life is passing you by. It is. Because you’re in a prison called your marriage.
If you’re not thinking of leaving her (and I’m surprised you’re not, but ok) then at least think about how you can let life back into your life, instead of dozing through it taking care of her and the cats. Have a talk with her about what you want, your hobbies, your friends, etc. And if the two of you can’t figure out a way in which you can have a normal out-of-doors life as well as her as a wife, then what does that say about the nature of your relationship?
I think you should seriously think about this.
WillParticipantYou should read up on child sexual development and recognise that what you did was in no way unusual and not at all harmful. If I understand correctly that you snuck a peek while she was asleep and she doesn’t even know, then how would it harm her? You were a child, and curious about something you didn’t know anything about. Yes, sneaking a peek was naughty, but are you really going to keep torturing yourself, at 24, for being a naughty child one night when you were 10? Good grief! All children are naughty sometimes. Even the saints were occasionally naughty children, I can assure you.
I don’t see how you could gain anything by apologising, especially if you’re not sure how she will react. It sounds like your family perhaps places a lot of importance on appropriate sexual behaviour. What does your mother think of this, does she think it’s a big deal? Because it’s really not.
Is this issue the only cause for your anxiety/depression, or were you feeling depressed before, and have you picked up this old hoary chestnut because you were looking for some reason to be upset? It may sound weird, but when you’re depressed, your brain can sometimes hunt around in your memories for things to feel bad about so that your feelings and thoughts are on the same line.
I hope you’ll come back and tell us more about what’s going on, because it really sounds like you’re making yourself miserable for no reason.
WillParticipantI’m glad you stepped over your fear. I would have advised you to tell him and take the chance.
It’s ok that this one didn’t work out. Now you know that you can overcome your fear and take risks like these, and the world doesn’t end. You did well. I’m sure you’ll have better luck in the future.
WillParticipantSucky sexual experiences are sucky, but they happen sometimes. Now you know more about the kinds of sexual experiences you want and don’t want. Forgive yourself for making mistakes, you were upset over the break-up and were trying to have a good time. And you haven’t done anything wrong with regards to him. He broke up with you. He set you free and you acted on it. If he was expecting something else, he’s not reasonable.
As for not sleeping with other people when there’s a chance your ex will take you back, I think you should think about how long this “oh, I’m not sure let me think” period is going to last. How long are you going to wait around before you start to act and think like a single person again? There’s someone else on this forum who’s thinking of getting back with their ex after a year apart. Are you going to give this guy a year of your life while he figures out whether he wants you or not?
And if not a year, then how long?
WillParticipantLet’s make this simpler, cupo. Forget the question of whether you love each other or the idea of love or whatever.
- What qualities do you want your life to have? What does happiness look like for you? You want passion? Stability? Peace? Lot’s of excitement? Laughter? Friendships? Make a short list (3-5 things).
- Does being with her give you those qualities?
- Imagine life a year after your break-up. A year after so you’re not in the middle of the mourning process, you may have found someone new or at least got used to living on your own. Imagine where you’re living and what life is like. Do you now have more of your happiness qualities, or less?
Now you know what would be right for you. Take this into account when making your decision.
Finally, “But I’ve had zero outlet in like 6 years.” Why is that?
WillParticipantYeah, if he abused you to the point that you’re still having flashbacks and it’s affected your ability to work, maybe err on the side of not giving him another chance to do that again.
Sometimes relationships are broken beyond repair. I think this is one of those times.
You should definitely work on letting go of the past and dealing with it so it doesn’t haunt you to this degree. But I’m not going to give you advice on how to do that so you can get back with this guy. I think both of you should take the lessons you learned and apply them to your next relationship, not try to resurrect something that should have been in the graveyard for a year.
March 6, 2015 at 7:06 am in reply to: Saying No to Parents and their money – very difficult decision #73636WillParticipantI know it’s in Costa Rica, but unpaid work is still unpaid work. What justifies them using your labour like that?
WillParticipantIt’s good when you’re the person who wants to break up but you need some emotional distance to see clearly that that’s what you want. It’s bad when you’re the other person.
Yes, it’s a glib answer, but the question is too general to answer. What’s your situation? If you’re more specific we may be able to help you.
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