Hi Peter,

Thanks so much for writing back. I think i understand, but i will think about it a bit more. With reference to doing art, i did a picture of a hand pointing at myself, with forgive written on it. I will explore more. To be honest i think i need forgiveness from God, but i think of the Lords prayer (from the past) and theres a loop where it says forgive me my trespasses as i forgive others. Im not sure what happens first… forgiveness of me, or of me forgiving others. Can i forgive myself? Ought i to forgive others if ive done wrong too? How do i know that im forgiven?

Thanks for your help.

Hi Peter and Anita,

Im confused. Are you saying different things?

Peter, i feel youre saying i need to find a way to forgive, and not say that i dont.

Anita, i feel you are saying its okay to take my time and to not forgive, but do you mean actions etc rather than not forgive a person?

Ps also as this forum is for art, ought i to be looking for a way to combine creativity with this issue??

Thank you Anita. I probably need to write things out, so i may not respond for a while.

Take good care of yourself….hope to be back here.

I just wanted to say i think some things other things have got conflated or merged, and im trying to tease them apart.

If people really knew the consequences of certain behaviours, would they do them?

Hi Anita, thanks for replying. Ive got worn out, and i was just thinking about the title of this thread. Its interesting how situations can be interpreted very differently, according to different beliefs, and those interpretations cant all be right.

I might take a break for a little while, but i would like to come back. I think i just need to rest for a while.

Hi Anita, only just noticed your reply about my 3rd thread. Thank you for asking, i think id be happy to talk about that as a separate issue as it felt quite significant. I hope im not offloading too much for you.

Thank you again for your kindness in listening and offering feedback.

Thank you so much for your kindness Anita. Im grateful to you, and for Lori, the provider of this forum, for giving me this ‘listening’ time.

I really appreciate what you are saying about not forgiving, and going at your own pace. It also brings to mind making amends when you know youve done something wrong. I have tried making amends for some things, but i do feel burdened over that. I feel i need some guidance so im going to see someone, i just hope its right.

Its a beautiful day out today, something to be grateful for. I will take a rest and reflect on what we’ve said. Take care.