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Big blueParticipant
Hi T,
After reading your post, I say if you two are good with it, go for it.
My only experience with a much older woman – she’s 12 years older, but seemed younger – did not bother me, but sometimes bothered her. We broke up for other reasons.
I asked a similar question about “Realistic age gap?” On August 2, and got a lot of good answers.
Big blue
Big blueParticipantHi Little Buddha,
Well, my resilience grew back a few months ago, when I was upset and stuck on a woman. TB helped me through the discomfort. In the process, I am now more resilient. Ta-dahh! Seriously – ta-dahhh! 🙂
The key is to push ahead as much as you can despite things falling apart, or trying to fall apart.
My childhood was very challenging – A lot of discomfort. I stuck by my values – hard work, honesty, friendship – and learned to cope with chaos.
As a teen, I worked in a restaurant kitchen. This is good experience in handling diverse challenges including failure.
My masters program was very challenging. I learned a lot about figuring out things on my own and with others, while under great pressure.
Challenging myself in the gym has made me more resilient.
There are and will be many more challenges that I will find uncomfortable. Like the one that brought me to TB. It’s a journey. 🙂
A few tips for you to try:
1. Get going even if you are anxious. You will figure it out once you are ‘in the game’ vs. procrastinating or giving up before starting.
2. In real time, if the challenge seems large, break it down and take it a chunk at a time. In tennis this is a point.
3. Realize that you will fail. And, you will learn from that failure. It may feel like suffering. It’s ok – this is accepting part of life.
I was not much of a Phish fan, but I like The Line. It’s about choking in sports.
You might watch other tough tennis matches to see how the players Handle it. You’ll see a range of people crying, throwing their rackets, and hugging their opponents.
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi Purpose,
I’m sorry for your suffering. I’ve been down before, so I know….
Can you Skype with your childhood friends, say on birthdays, major news, an occasional Hi?
When you say 100%, what do you mean? Balance is good. Not saying this is you, but I know sometimes when I give too much and the reciprocity is not there, I keep going and can develop resentment or false expectations, which hurts rather than helping.
When you say very honest, what does this mean? Can you give an example or two? Because we care, we sometimes speak out. However, are we listening twice as much as we speak? Asking questions and learning about people is also a high value exercise or trait, to be interested in others for who they are.
Big blue
Big blueParticipantJ
Re: Matt … agreed.
You said you had your own period of emotional confusion. Have you forgiven yourself first? You are seeking rational answers to explain your emotions. Best to accept them and send them on their way if you want to be with her. That is, forgive yourself and her.
You might do well having a couple sessions with a professional to reason and feel this out. I have done this a couple times and it was an enormous help to me.
Big blue
Big blueParticipantHi Trevor,
Would it help to do the following?
– Consider what it means to leave a legacy in the world?
– Ask the others who are dear to you, what their legacies will be?
– Ask yourself what your legacy will be?The first question gives you a new context. The earliest value here, I suspect, will be in the middle question, because you will be engaging in a meaningful dialog with the other folks. This dialog will become a journey for you. Then, over time, you will gain your own perspective and understanding of what you contribute as yourself. I’m thinking that you will become more comfortable and less anxious as you realize that there are no absolute, perfect answers, and that a good course of action is taking a course of action with others, while being ok with yourself.
Now, I’m not recommending that you only live in the future, but rather that you more consciously live in the present through this process of considering your future legacy.
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi J,
Try some new activities together. Maybe things you share interests in, or maybe something new to both of you. Old things might bring up old feelings. You can create new experiences and in living them together either see that it works or that it does not. Try new things.
What do you think about this idea?
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi popi,
What’s the matter? It’s ok to hate a mistake, but not yourself. Take if back and say you’re sorry to yourself! 🙂
Big blue
Big blueParticipantHi Popi,
One benefit is improved fitness. Another is just being in the experience. I ran regularly when I was younger. After a few miles I would get into a good rhythm. Then some runner’s high. This was running outside.
Recently, I have done spin biking inside. This is fun in a group and a great workout.
Take advantage of the experience itself. Lose your other thoughts. This has benefits.
Big blue
Big blueParticipantHi popi,
Yes 30 minutes a day is good if you are running, and alternating other days with some strength training and yoga. You will benefit from various challenges, accomplishments and rewards.
You are right about food. I ate more than my share of Doritos years ago. Now I eat more than my share of spinach salad, blueberries and salmon – to name a few of my favorites.
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi lil.lily,
I can understand somewhat – at the foundation I think – because I had some abuse as a child, and then a few years ago I tolerated an emotionally abusive relationship for a while before I ended it. She was repeatedly accusing me of cheating, and she would get really nasty after a couple drinks. Nuclear fights. Awful. She had issues that caused her to do these things – probably abuse in her past – and without getting through her own recovery she was perpetuating abuse herself.
Really and truly, as others have said above, you need to focus on building up your self esteem, and reject any abuse that may start to come your way in the future. That means identifying it and stopping it immediately. That also means reframing yourself as a healthy person. Yes, you had some abuse, but that does not define you. I know this is easier said and read than done having lived it.
My advice is to take action and think and feel that you are healthy. You become what you believe and what you do. Rather than list what this means, I offer you the question to pursue: what do I do to be healthy? Go find out and do these things.
Big blue
Big blueParticipantHi R,
I had been through this and gotten through – some how. People have pointed out that anger is usually the second step in the grieving process. While I defer to the experts, I have had anger pop up later, but maybe those were fallback cases. At some point, I have found that I completely processed the breakup. My most recent was 6 months and we did not actually date. Before that the breakup of my marriage was especially hard to get through. There is no timetable, but it is normal to go through an anger stage.
Google the 5 steps of the grief process. Take a look. Realize you will need some time and healthy support. Take it easy on yourself.
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi Mariposita,
You raised a good question for those of us who may personalize, or take to heart, this sort of cloudiness from someone else.
I have a junior coworker who is flailing but likes to blame me with criticisms. I don’t let him. The advice above gives me some more ways to cope or understand.
Big blue
August 25, 2014 at 2:35 pm in reply to: Still confused after breaking up with my ex a year ago #63924Big blueParticipantHi Sarah,
I understand what you are going through. I agree with you and Kelsi that you follow your gut instinct. There must have been enough wrong for you to back away. This could be you needing to sort things out, or him or both of you. Or, you’re just not meant to be together.
I had one such situation and I gave it a go. I tried hard to make it work and after much trying and communication we broke up. I had another situation where my gut took over and led me away early on. Both were tough but in the end, I’m better off. A long-term success was my marraige of more than 20 years. My gut was in. Eventually she kicked my butt out – ouch – but hey I call 20+ years and two beautiful kids a win. 🙂
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi Tony,
I agree with the advice above. A manipulator has a tattered play book that works with your weaknesses. Mine can be acting as a rescue fixer. In this and another case, yes – I had the thought or feeling that I was being manipulated. I removed myself from the situation, but could has done it sooner. Self awareness has helped me to turn up that radar.
To help with your radar, there is a good article called “How to Recognize and Handle Manipulative Relationships” on the Psychology Today blog.
To help with your weakness that they sense and exploit, be aware of your tendencies, plus do the heavy lifting to love yourself, be kind to yourself, build your self esteem – get your mojo going strong, but not in an arrogant way.
What do you think?
Big blue
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Big blueParticipantHi R,
I like the simplicity of your TB name. If only our lives could be simple to define and direct, right?
Sometimes we get so attached to what we Can’t experience in life that we miss out on what we Can experience in life. :-/ I must confess: Been there; done that! 🙂
I certainly don’t have all the answers. I’m thinking of questions for someone in your shoes. Mine are similar. (Size 13.)
1. What makes me happy that I can do today? (I go to the seacoast.)
2. What can I do to help others? (I volunteer.)
3. What have I always wanted to do – for me? (I am happy being free to choose what I do in my spare time.)
4. What can I do to challenge myself? (I’m learning some new skills like boxing.)
5. What am I passionate about? (Doing great work.)
6. What am I proud of? (Getting in shape.)
7. _____________________________________________?Big blue
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