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TeeParticipantDear EvFran,
you are welcome!
She has stopped giving him money but still buy him food. He lives separately in one of their apartments, I think he doesn’t need to pay the rent.
Hm, that’s still providing for his basic upkeep. I guess he has some money of his own (maybe from his father?) to buy weed regularly? I wouldn’t let him live in her apartment for free if he doesn’t want to continue his studies. Because if she does, he won’t be motivated to change anything about his lifestyle.
Therapy would be a good idea.
Yes, I think that would be a must.
Apparently he has read many books on psychology, mainly on how to manipulate people.
Hm, that’s not a good sign. It seems he wants to take the easy route. He is already manipulating her quite successfully…
I can fully understand that nowadays it’s not easy for young people. Moralizing is not a solution either.
Sure, if she just preaches to him, he won’t listen. But I don’t know him. Maybe he is just spoiled and has been like that since he was a child?
I just don’t know how to support my friend. They are absolutely clueless because he just doesn’t want to do anything…. I promised I would talk to him but don’t really know what else i can say.
You are already supporting her, by talking to her and inquiring about the possibilities for help. You’re also posting here on her behalf. Frankly, I don’t think you should talk to him, unless you are a specially important person in his life. If he isn’t listening to his parents, he is probably not going to listen to you either. I don’t think you can do more than what you’re already doing.
TeeParticipantDear EvFran,
I think that since her son is 21, perhaps some “tough love” would be appropriate: I think she shouldn’t be supporting him and paying for his escapades, but ask him to move out, if he’s not planning to continue his studies. That will force him to find work and get his act together. If she keeps bailing him out and tolerating his lifestyle, she will be enabling him and not helping him at all.
I understand that he might have a tough time due to his parents divorcing and possibly other issues from his childhood. But nevertheless, smoking weed all day and getting in trouble with the law is not the answer. I would also suggest that he starts attending therapy. If I were his mother, I would pay for his therapy, but I wouldn’t keep enabling his bad behavior and bailing him out.
TeeParticipantHi Peter,
you’re welcome.
Intriguing thought that ‘what’ observes the parts is the true self
Yeah, many spiritual teachings say that the Observer is a part of our true self. And it makes total sense. I would even add “compassionate observer”. Because I believe our true self is not indifferent, but in fact cares. I hope it is so, I mean I hope God cares, and thus we, when we are in our true self, care too. So it’s not just indifferent observation, but compassionate observation. That’s what I’d like to believe anyway…
TeeParticipantHi Adam,
you’re welcome!
It. Really did feel like it was all about her and your analogy of the remote control car in one of your previous comments was a perfect one. She really did control everything including how I felt. When I would resist or stand my ground it was more signs of imperfect love, I was only trying to encourage her own self reliance. I was living through the lens of her happiness and not my own.
This very much sounds like you were codependent on her – your happiness depended on her happiness and you tried everything to make her happy. When you couldn’t be on “standby” 100% of the time, she would accuse you of not loving her perfectly. So your life revolved around her and trying to make her happy…
She told me I need to change by being there for her more and understanding what she was feeling. I was constantly told I wasn’t listening to her or understanding her needs.
The responsibility of work and owning a house is a lot. She has neither and for this reason she couldn’t understand the demand of my life at times.
She would accuse me of not having my priorities right, expecting that she should be number 1 before anything else.
Yeah, this is typical in people with trauma: it’s all about their needs, they want to be your No1 and come before everything else. It’s basically the demands of a child who needs attention and care 100% of the time. The problem is that she is not a child any more, and you’re not her mother. You cannot babysit her all the time. She refused to take responsibility for herself and shifted that responsibility on you, and then sort of bullied you when you wouldn’t accept it fully.
My priority is my future, family and me. I feel as if these all correlate in my life and a partner is included in that, not any higher or lower on some list.
It’s a good attitude. We’re not supposed to be our partner’s care-taker. In fact, both partners need to be adult enough to heal any major childhood wounds they may have, because only then can they participate in a healthy relationship. And a healthy relationship is interdependent, not codependent.
I never heard of trauma bonding until today but I started seeing the signs of emotional abuse last week. This was definitely what I was experience as well as manipulation. I think it was unintentional but still that isn’t what I want from a relationship.
I also wasn’t clear what exactly trauma bonding was, but now that I watched that video again, it became clear to me. And it’s really what you had too: intimacy and closeness alternating with blaming and rejection. I am glad you’ve become aware that it was actually abuse and that she used you as her punching bag.
I do feel a bit different, I don’t know how to describe it but I feel violated and taken advantage.
Yeah, that’s normal. Abuse does that to us… Try to be gentle on yourself. Practice self-care, have plenty of rest and do the things that make you happy. You need to start focusing on yourself and your own needs – so turn the attention inwards.
I am waking up to it. I felt so trapped and alone the day before she left me. It’s because I was in the end. I was suffering in silence because of her mental instability. I felt as I couldn’t speak in fear of upsetting her or just being straight up rejected. That in itself is hurting me as I am questioning if I maybe should have spoken up more. However I don’t think it would change any outcome.
No, you couldn’t have changed anything with her. Nothing you might have said would have made a difference. You already spent months and months discussing things, and there was no change. So no, you couldn’t have done anything. Please don’t blame yourself for her behavior or for the breakup.
I know I need to stop. I have removed her off everything and my headspace is on fixing myself and not latching onto hopes of a future relationship.
Good! She might contact you again, saying she is sorry, but please don’t allow to get hooked again! Please stay away from her because her behavior is toxic.
I texted My psych again today I hopes to book another appointment. I bottled everything up last session as I was too afraid to say I felt I was being abused emotionally, I wasn’t sure if it was me overthinking.
Yeah, you weren’t sure yet. And sometimes we tend to hide the truth even from ourselves, justifying and trying to excuse our partner’s behavior, even blaming ourselves. But it’s good you’re seeing it now, and are ready to talk about it and process it.
Please take good care of yourself in the coming days and weeks. Hope to talk to you soon!
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
We’ve been in touch once a week but I’m nervous. He’s working more then he thought he would, and on top of that he started studying four hours a day (and seeing friends and family plus dental surgery) so he is busy.
Once a week is not too much indeed. It seems he tends to take on way too much work. I remember when he worked 72 hr weeks at the hostel, which is inhumane and barely possible physically. So he might have problems with boundaries and standing up for himself. Perhaps there is also a pressure to earn money, so he can send it to his family?
He is still coming here before Portugal but I don’t know when or how long, and he said he was anxious to go back to europe and to see me (I hope he meant to say excited).
What does his arrival date depend on? Perhaps he isn’t getting a clear answer from his company about when he is needed in Portugal, and he is hesitant to ask about it and have it defined? And yeah, I also think he meant excited, not anxious…
We haven’t planned Portugal yet because he’s hoping that they will give him at least two days off and that he can provide him a place to stay so we won’t have to stay at a hostel or something.
Yeah, it seems again that his company is not willing to fix any dates, and he is unwilling to ask. He is maybe afraid of asking anything, not to lose his job? I understand that right now, while he is in Brazil, he is in a more vulnerable position than once he gets to Europe. So I can kind of understand his hesitancy to demand anything at this point. However, if he has a tendency to not speak up for himself, it might be contributing to this whole situation of him being overburdened and unable to communicate with you more.
I have been batteling with all my triggers and extrem emotions for five months now since he said that he liked me. I know this is normal but I am really worried that it’ll all bee for nothing because he’s gone for so long and his poor texting skills.
It’s normal you feel anxious about his lack of communication. I am almost sure that it’s because he is overburdened and everyone has demands on him, and he simply doesn’t have time. But if I am seeing it right, it might be that he is a people pleaser and simply cannot say No. And so he get torn between all those demands. It seems his company is taking advantage of this weakness of his and giving him more and more work.
At this point, try to be patient and understand him. Try to hold on for another 2 or 3 weeks, till you meet him. And then you’ll know better how things stand. But on the long run, I think he’ll need to deal with his lack of boundaries and allowing people to exploit him. But for now, try to be patient and supportive, even if it’s hard for you, because your own needs are not met.
Are you seeing the therapist you mentioned last time?
TeeParticipantHi Adam,
good to hear from you again!
I am sorry you’re hurt once again, but at the same time, I hope you can see now that this relationship was pretty bad for you and your mental health.
It dawned on me a couple of days ago that I felt as I couldn’t be myself and do what I want to do. She needed a caregiver 247 and when I wasn’t there for her it was again signs of me not loving her enough and her not getting what she was wanting.
We were fighting a lot the last couple weeks and it was all brought on due to her not feeling connected etc. we’d have a chat and sort things out but then again days or a week later she would say she wasn’t getting what she wanted.
It seems it was all about her and her needs. She really felt she can press a button and you’ll show up, or you’ll disappear from her sight on demand. That is emotional abuse, Adam. You saw it well. Anna Runkle (The Crappy Childhood Fairy) calls it emotional abuse too. She used the phrase “yanking a dog’s chain”. She also calls it trauma bonding: constantly switching from being nice and loving to you, to then blaming you and wanting to break up with you. That’s not true love, but trauma bonding.
You were hooked on her nice words and promises, that’s why you tolerated her abuse. And it was hard to let go, because you were craving those moments of connection and intimacy that were there. But the problem is that those good moments were soon followed by attacks and withdrawal. So it was a roller-coaster. And this roller-coaster of being “loved” in one moment and then rejected in the next is called trauma bonding.
I feel quite attacked honestly. I don’t think my side was ever considered and she would selfishly use me as a punching bag for her irrational behavior. I felt really shit about myself after an argument the other night and I remember thinking I can’t leave her but that she was going to do it soon. Now it’s happened and I may not be happy at the moment but I needed an out. I think I may have been receiving slight emotion abuse at times.
Yes, it was emotional abuse definitely, and not only slight. It’s a pity that you felt you can’t leave. Do you now, after seeing the video and understanding it was emotional abuse – feel any different?
As explained in the video it wasn’t a relationship that I wanted but I did tell myself and I push past this and deal with all the bad despite how it made me feel there would be light at the end.
Yes, because she hooked you with those good moments when it felt as if she loved you. That’s why you felt hope. You hoped that she would seek therapy and heal her trauma, so she can love you always, not only sometimes. But it never happened, because she doesn’t want therapy.
she told me nothing changed even though she told me what I needed to do. However I don’t believe I needed to change anything.
Oh she told you you need to change? And how so?
The whole situation sucks but I am feeling a tad better about it this time, I think I’ve just woken up to what was happening and I also got over trying to fill a bottomless pit with my love.
I also hope you’re waking up to how abusive this relationship was!
I lost myself in the process
I hear you, Adam. You tried to fit yourself to her requirements, you tried everything not to upset her, you tried to be supportive of her ups and downs… Anna Runkle calls this “crap fitting”. When we try to fit ourselves to crap that our partner is exposing us to.
But you can recover, Adam. However, you need to stop contacting her, stop trying to change her. You need to let her go, because she can’t give you what you need. Do you think you can do that?
TeeParticipant* That what observes all those other parts is the true self.
TeeParticipantHi Peter,
To love our neighbor as ourselves isn’t then a reflection of how we love ourselves, or not only that, but that our neighbor is also It and so also our Self.
Yes, we are all One…
A psychotherapist Richard Schwartz, founder of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, had been working with hundreds of people, who all said that when they unblend from all their parts (the protector part, the child part etc), what remains is their true self. What that observes all those other parts is the true self. And so Richard Schwartz began to call it the Self (with the capital S).
There is a beautiful youtube video by another therapist (Dr. Tori Olds), who explains our Self from that perspective, including the 8 characteristics of the Self. It’s titled “How to find yourself: The True Self in IFS therapy“. I think it’s worth watching. It kind of blends psychotherapy and spirituality when explaining our true self, and to me, it’s quite fascinating.
TeeParticipantDear Katrine,
I am sorry he is not writing more frequently. How often do you communicate? Is he still coming to London before going to Portugal? How about your trip to Portugal – is it still on?
May 11, 2023 at 9:28 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #418500
TeeParticipantDear Dafne,
you are very welcome!
To summ up, next time he contacts me I will only accept meeting him in public (no going to his place for at least 2 more dates outside). I will find an excuse that the evening I’m busy and only day time works for now. If he doesn’t accept, I will say that I won’t be coming to his place. And that I can wait when he is ready for a more romantic relationship. We can stay friends for the moment being.
Sounds good! Let me know if he messages you again…
Actually, he doesn’t text me, only before the meeting so that might also be a sign that he doesn’t want to bond emotionally.
Yes, if he isn’t interested to check in on you throughout the week, and only texts right before he wants to pick you up, that too shows he isn’t interested to bond emotionally.
One of my friends came up with a new idea for dating. I’m curious what is your take on that. She advised not to be boyfriend/girlfriend until engagement. Basically we are connecting as friends, maybe kiss and hug (no sex with men).
Hmm… that’s a strange concept: to get engaged without being in a romantic relationship beforehand. If that’s what she meant?
I can meet with more than 1 person and get to know without giving the benefits of a relationship.
Yes, that’s dating. In the dating phase, you can meet more than one person and have that “interview” type of conversation, where you see if you are on the same page regarding what you want from the relationship, whether they want to get married eventually etc. But then once you pick your guy and start bonding emotionally and developing feelings, you can’t just remain friends till they ask you to get married. You need to have the romantic phase of the relationship, which can or doesn’t have to include sex. But what it has to include are mutual feelings and affection for each other, and prospects for a committed relationship, i.e. marriage.
So you cannot really jump from dating multiple people to getting married without choosing one particular person with whom you’ll engage in a romantic (boyfriend/girlfriend) relationship. That’s because you want to get to know the person quite well before deciding to marry them. You don’t want someone who will promise to marry you already on the second date, because that would be a big red flag.
Because those people who immediately offer marriage usually have an ulterior motive, e.g. they may want you to do the chores for them, look after their kids, take care of their sick parents etc (you were already involved with such guys, right?). Or maybe they are a conman who is after your money and wants to exploit you financially.
In any case, if someone wants to marry you only a short time after having met you, that’s a big red flag. So you need to be wary of both such guys, as well as guys who only want sex and don’t want any commitment. Both are bad news and something to stay away from.
I’m curious, Tee, what is your opinion on that? Is it a good way and more effective than being boyfriend/girlfriend first?
No, in my opinion it is not effective, if it means you skip the romantic phase and look for men who will tell you they want to marry you right after they meet you. You can’t expect such a guarantee. A guy can be interested in marriage as such, however he cannot immediately promise you anything. It’s a big deal, a big life decision, to get married, so the couple wants to get to know each other properly and know what they can expect from each other. I would date for at least a year before getting married. Anything that is rushed isn’t good.
I would like to get married and not stuck in a relationship forever.
I understand that, but as I said, you can’t marry a good, decent guy without first being in a relationship with him and getting to know him. What you should establish in the beginning is a) if he is free to marry and b) if he is interested to get married. If those 2 preconditions are met, and you like the guy, you can proceed to date and develop a relationship. And if there is mutual attraction and similar values, it will hopefully result in marriage, not too far down the line.
How does this sound?
TeeParticipantHi Peter,
we experience emotions for many reasons, but we are not our emotions.
Begging the questions what are these things we call emotions and where and what was this thing I experienced as ‘self’ that experienced them.
True, we’re not our emotions, and we’re not our thoughts either. A Portuguese neuroscientist Antonio Damasio has a very interesting theory (backed by his clinical experience), which says that emotions are key in decision making, i.e. that they help us make decisions. They are a complement to reasoning.
He studied patients with brain injury, specifically the injury of a part of the neocortex called the ventromedial prefrontal cortex (vmPFC). He observed that those patients can do math and can speak articulately, however they lose their ability to relate to people, to read social cues and also to make decisions. Their lives fall apart, even if their intellectual abilities are intact.
He concluded that it’s because this part of the neocortex normally receives information from the lower parts of the brain (limbic and “reptilian”). If this information is not being transmitted, we’re not getting the emotional/danger cues, and we can’t make a decision on e.g. what is good for us in a certain situation. We can’t respond to danger properly either.
So he concludes that emotions are super important, even if they can be sometimes misleading (actually they can be misleading a lot of times, if we have a lot of unresolved issues that make us misinterpret things, get triggered easily etc). But still, he concludes that emotions are crucial for our healthy functioning. He describes his findings in his book “Descartes’ Error”, if you’re interested in more details.
As for what is the Self that is experiencing emotions, that’s a good question. I guess it can’t be found in one particular part of the brain 🙂 I think it’s more of the mind and heart working in sync, but I guess mind and heart clear from false beliefs and emotional wounds… Anyway, I don’t want to get too philosophical, but I just wanted to share this view on emotions, which I think is quite profound.
May 10, 2023 at 10:07 pm in reply to: I am struggling with feeling guilt and being upset for trying to leave my job #418493
TeeParticipantDear FurryRat,
you say you’ve been told the job has given to you because of nepotism. Does it mean your boss did it as a favor to your family? Did you know that he is a friend of your family?
But when I informed my current boss, he seems upset that I am leaving before the contract is up
there’s nothing I do for work. I don’t go to the office, and just essentially stay home everyday doing my own things.
I don’t understand why he would be upset about you leaving, unless he believes it will be bad for his relationship with your family? Because if you’re not really required to do anything, or only some irrelevant stuff to kill time – I don’t see other reasons for him to be upset.
I believe it’s totally okay for you to look for another job, something you’ll enjoy and where you’ll be able to use your skills and talents. However, if you got this job because of your family, there might be another side of the story – perhaps too much influence of your family in your life? Anything like that?
TeeParticipantHey SereneWolf,
I am glad you’re feeling better after visiting your family and talking to your siblings. In situations like that, it’s good to feel supported and consoled by those close to us.
As for myself, I too am feeling a little better. Hopefully it won’t be temporary, like last time.
Hmm right but I’m already working on it and I shouldn’t be more rigorous about it now. Right? Or is there any daily practice I can improve or implement or update?
Yes, it’s important that you’re aware of it and working on it. Are you still doing the journaling (writing down your fears and resentments)?
I guess the part the she isn’t sure about me, it’s just making it easier for me take my leave, I thought about more and I may be craving that feeling when someone is scared of losing me, and even if they’re scared they’d take actions???
On the other hand I know it’s unreasonable to expect that level of strong connection if I don’t show her that type of connection or love…
I see… so you’d want her to stick around to prove her love. Although you didn’t let her say “I love you” and were not showing that you care about her too much… so yes, it’s kind of a contradiction. If you want her to stick around, you’d need to show it too…
[they’re not criticizing you directly, but comparing you to other people, and then you feel indirectly criticized and judged, right? Do you also feel it in their tone of voice – that they’re not pleased with you and expect you to do more?] – Yes Exactly!
Okay, I understand this makes you upset, but I think the first thing you should do is become more immune to those indirect judgments. To know that you are good enough as you are. So those veiled comments will not bother you so much.
And then you can decide what you want to do – whether it makes sense to ask your father not to mention other people to you, or to let it go. If you are not so triggered, it will be easier to take it lightly, e.g. to change the topic, or say “Yeah, he/she is doing quite well” (you sort of agree with them).
You don’t need to start justifying yourself, you just acknowledge that this person is doing well, while knowing inside of yourself that you too are doing well and that you are good enough. If you are not judging yourself, their judgments will carry less weight too.
No I didn’t. I felt much better after talk it out to my siblings
Good! Are your siblings supportive of you? Do they get similar treatment from your father and grandfather?
I guess I was in the same situation. Pressure from my father and grandfather because they wanted me to achieve things which they think is more appropriate for them.. So because of that they would give me more than enough kind of nurturance. But after I started living on my own I’m super aware of what I eat and really insecure about my body image so yeah anorexia nervosa. But also the bulimia except no vomiting. My body type is Pitta, So my metabolism is high so I eat a lot a lot, Yet my bodyweight is still low. My BMI is still around 19. I guess Hypothyroidism may also be part of it but I’m not sure.
I just checked, BMI of 19 is not undernourished, but on the border. But you say you do a eat a lot and aren’t vomiting, which doesn’t really qualify as anorexia or bulimia. Does it mean you have periods of indulging in food and then starving yourself, not to gain weight? Because that too can be disordered eating – sort of swinging from one extreme to the other.
EDs are always related to nurturance, I think. In my family, food was the only “pleasure” that was not judged, so basically it was okay if I ate a lot, I wasn’t judged for that. But I was for just about everything else. So I guess that’s also one of the reasons food became my “drug” of choice.
But another thing is that even though I’m insecure about my body image. Because I do think I have to be in normal range weight (I’m not super skinny but like not super healthy looking either) I have to gain muscles, have better skin.etc All the girls I’ve been with was like what we say “Out of my league” if we seeing things from that way. Yet still I didn’t felt good enough and it damaged my self-esteem even more?
Yes, it seems you don’t feel good enough, in this case attractive enough physically. Which is just another manifestation of feeling not good enough in general. I guess that in reality, things are a little different, because you did say earlier that you get compliments for your looks, and you do get attention from pretty girls, right? So you not feeling attractive enough is something you are telling yourself – it’s a part of your inner critic. And you know how to treat that inner critic, don’t you? 🙂
Yes. Luckily it’s getting much better. I found whole new way and I’m seeing good positive results
Oh great! I am happy to hear that!
TeeParticipantDear Anna,
you are very welcome.
I am sorry your ex is giving you such a hard time. The fact that he threatened to sue you for something you said, and also that he acts superior pretending to wish you all the best – is a pretty clear indicator to me that he is narcissistic. Narcissistic people tend to threaten and seek revenge, and yet keep saying how good and caring they are, while you are the bad guy.
I am glad this was the last straw and you blocked him everywhere. But it seems he still has a big impact on you because you take his words seriously and you believe him, right? You say his email made you cry – and I can imagine he said some really nasty things and you took it to heart, right?
I am sorry he is torturing you like that. It seems he really ruined your self-esteem and made you doubt yourself. You can recover, Anna, but it’s important that you don’t believe his accusations! You are not a bad person, you’re not narcissistic (I guess he accused you of being narcissistic because you dared to express your own needs?). He is trying to put you down, so he can control you and have power over you. Narcissistic people need to feel better than others – that’s the only way they can feel good about themselves.
I understand it’s hard for you to face all of this alone, with your two good friends not really able to offer much help. You can post here and share your struggles, if you’d like. You don’t need to hold back. I’ll try to help.
Also, there are good youtube videos on narcissism. One of the most famous youtube experts on narcissism is Dr. Ramani – you can check her channel.
Another super helpful youtube channel is Crappy Childhood Fairy, with tons of videos on how to heal from childhood trauma aka complex PTSD. She has a good video on narcissism, titled Narcissistic Abuse: These Characteristics Make you Vulnerable. Maybe you’ll recognize yourself and your ex in the story she presents.
Please know that his abuse is NOT your fault and that you didn’t deserve it. And that you are not the bad person he is portraying to you to be! I hope you can accept it and start your recovery slowly from there… This should also give you a little more energy to get things going, little by little.
Hope to talk to you soon!
May 10, 2023 at 3:40 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #418474
TeeParticipantDear Dafne,
yes I am still here 🙂 Thank you for your kind words!
I am glad he wasn’t pushy and didn’t insist on having sex, which is what I was concerned might happen if you go to his place again. So at least he seems safe in that respect.
He is not a traditional type like me. Being just friends is not enough as there is too much attraction between us but also he is not ready to offer too much emotionally.
Sure, you don’t need to be just friends with him – after all, you want a relationship, right? The problem, as you see it too, is that he is not ready to offer an emotional connection and emotional intimacy – which you said is paramount for you. You said you don’t want to be treated like a sex object – you also want to have an emotional bond with the man you are with.
This guy told you from the get-go that he is basically only interested in a sexual relationship. He told you he had great sex with his wife, and he misses that. Well, if he only needs sex, there are women out there who provide such services. Sorry if this is rude, but yeah, this is what I think about his attitude. Why would you put yourself in a position of a sex provider for him?
I know for sure that I won’t accept another invite to his home without going out first. Also, I think it is better to not contact him first and wait.
Good! I hope you can stay strong and not be manipulated into another visit without going out on a date with him first. He promised to take you out on a date, so let’s see if he can keep his promise. And yes, I think you shouldn’t contact him first, but wait till he is willing to ask you out. If he wants to meet at his place again, I’d refuse, with the wording I suggested last time.
Tee, I’d like to ask you to advice me what would you do next? Shall I tell him that I do not want to have any intimate activities without a relationship?
Hmm… I think that he already knows your conditions, which is that you don’t want him to use you for sex only. I think he understands that already, because you told him more than once. Last time you told him again: But I explained that I want more than sex and it is too fast.
But he is nevertheless trying to manipulate you, because he sees your weakness and insecurity. You did agree to go to his place for the 2nd time. And he might think you’ll be willing to go again, and perhaps go all the way. He is probably hoping for that.
At the same time, I don’t want to scare him away with my demands too soon.
I am afraid you’re not seeing this clearly, Dafne. Demanding that he shouldn’t use you for sex only isn’t too much to ask. It’s the bare minimum if you want a relationship.
What is the best timing to say it and how to say it?
If he calls you next time and tells you he wants to meet at his place again, perhaps that’s when you could clarify things one more time. You can tell him something like: “[His name], I can’t keep seeing you if you don’t want to take me out and get to know me as a person. I need a proper relationship, I can’t be intimate with someone who only wants me for sex.”
What other question shall I ask to bring him closer emotionally?
Well, if you tell him the above (that you want a real relationship, not just sex), you’ll see how he reacts. If he is dismissive and tells you he is not ready to open up emotionally, that’s your answer. As Roberta said, you don’t need to push him to open up emotionally. Instead, you should stop pursuing him, because there is nothing he can give you. Nothing that you really need in a relationship.
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