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  • #455313
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    So, as I walk Bogart, the moment he starts pulling me (walking too fast, or at times, he gallops like a horse), stop, no moving forward.. until he stops pulling (if he does), then restart walking until he pulls again?

    Coming to think about it, he often pulls, just that at times harder/ more forcefully than other times.

    I need to check on “anti shock leads” and “harnesses designed to prevent pulling”. Bogart is certainly a Puller.

    One more week of antibiotics for you?

    I had too much 🍷 yesterday. I forgot about having a tattoo apt until you mentioned it in your reply, Alessa. How do I cancel it perhaps, as it was made while under the influence of alcohol???

    Part of it is that I really like the tattoo artist, such a charming young woman, affectionate, vibrant.

    The tattoo is supposed to be on my lower arm and contain 5 letters, that and nothing else, but my skin is SO THIN (it comes with aging), that it’s scary 😨

    Yes, you got it, part of my difficulty in regard to talking to my sister is that she’s involved in her mother’s life and every time I talk with her, I’m afraid she’ll tell me something about the mother.

    I would much rather get 10 tattoos on my paper-thin skin than hear about how the mother is doing irl these days.

    I was wondering πŸ€”, Alessa: growing up, I was drowning in empathy for her. Do you remember feeling empathy for your bio-mom?

    Mine used to go on endless “poor me” sessions, describing her terrible childhood and suffering. Your bio mom didn’t do that, did she?

    I hope that it’s okay that I am asking these questions. If it’s not okay, please let me know and I won’t ask such questions any more. I want to respect πŸ™ your boundaries.

    Sounds like you made the right decision to not get in touch with your brother.

    Thank you for saying that I’ve always been a person πŸ€πŸ™. I wish I knew it, all those decades of feeling like a 2-D object.. and not a valued object 😒

    I think that everyone has difficulties being alone for too long and we all rely on others for love. Bogart does, all social animals do.

    The tattoo, it’s ALULA. This was what a child long ago, said when trying to tell me “I love you”, but couldn’t say it, being a toddler.

    I’ll never forget it: a child’s sincere, honest, trustworthy expression of love, something that was new to me: being loved- simply, truly. I felt so undeserving of it, back then.

    🀍 Anita

    #455317
    anita
    Participant

    Whatever comes to mind this Wed night πŸŒ™-

    I love you, mother, I always loved you. I did, in my clumsy, unskillful, unwise ways, everything in my power to transform your life from Misery to Happy.

    I spent 5 decades in misery myself- because of your misery, seeing πŸ‘€ you as the most important (to me) person in the whole wide world 🌐 worthy, more than worthy of the sacrifice of me.

    And then, on the 6th decade, I ended contact, trying to bring me, my life into consideration.

    And now. I Love you still, always loved you.

    Thing is, just as my love for you didn’t reach you for HALF A CENTURY, my love for you having made ZERO difference for you for 50 years, it’s not going to make a difference for you now, at 85.

    I will not put myself through yet another “my love makes NO DIFFERENCE” experience with you, my mother.

    Goodbye πŸ‘‹ beloved mother. May love reach you somehow, somewhere, elsewhere.

    I don’t blame you because of all the abuse you suffered before I even came into your life.

    You have my forgiveness. May peace be with you, and may all my love be there within your heart now and forevermore. Amen.

    🀍 Anita

    #455336
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    Yup, I would do this even when the pulling isn’t painful. It is good to get him into the habit. He will start to get the message that pulling stops his fun. It doesn’t hurt to give a firm but gentle tug and a no too. And of course, a calm praise when he walks nicely. 🀍

    Hmm well have a think for a bit and see if a tattoo is something you want to do. My adopted mum got a tattoo on her forearm when she was in her 60s. The tattooist was very gentle. They are aware that they need to be very delicate with fine skin. It’s a lovely idea ALULA, such a beautiful memory. You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. I’m sure she will understand if you change your mind. 🀍

    You have always been worthy of love. There is so much more to you than your trauma. I’m so sorry that your mother taught you to believe otherwise. 🀍

    I hope that things change for you and your sister when your mom dies. It would be nice to be able to talk to her without the presence of your mother looming. 🀍

    Hmm well my bio mum and I both put in effort to avoid each other a lot, so the complaining wasn’t constant. And I was too independent, taking care of her and my brother from a young age.

    She told me that her father raped her and that she used to exchange sex for stuff because she was very poor. She told me that people promised her things and she had sex and they wouldn’t keep their promise after.

    I know she moved away from her family because she didn’t want to deal with them. But she would visit them once a year because they would give her money.

    I got burned out from caring. The suicide attempts and cutting were getting worse as I got older.

    I feel like for abusive parents it is very inconvenient for them when children are their own people, which they are from an early age. It was very common to abuse children to shut them up for a long time.

    My son tries to let his desires be known and he’s 2. He doesn’t want a nappy change. He doesn’t want to wear his clothes sometimes. He doesn’t want that food. He doesn’t want me putting his toys away to clean or go to bed. He wants what he’s not allowed and is disappointed when he is stopped. It is much easier for a child to express what they don’t want than what they do want. I think it’s just a bit complicated of a thought process imagining something that isn’t directly in front of them.

    Even now, it is common for people to describe behaviour as tantrums. I don’t really believe that. Difficulties happen when children desperately need something.

    Yes, but I mean that my internal resources are a bit weak. I’m trying to practice comforting myself every day at the moment. I write down the times I feel anxious in a day and I try to comfort myself at the end of the day.

    #455345
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    I get it about walking πŸ•πŸšΆβ€β™€οΈBogart- wasn’t aware of it all, how to train him to slow down. Silly, I know πŸ˜ƒ – I tried to get the message across to him by saying “slow down”.

    Okay, so now I have hope to prevent my shoulders from dislocation- thank you 😊 πŸ™ , Alessa, Dog Expert!

    He speeds up, I STOP βœ‹οΈ, say NO, he walks slower, I walk along and say “Good boy!”. He speeds up- repeat. I am looking forward to letting you know how it works!

    Talking about saying NO, your son feels safe with you, so he says no. I would have never dream of saying no to the mother. She never gave me the option to say Yes or NO, it would have been a privilege.

    Being able or allowed to say yes or no would have given me the 3rd dimension, from object to human; from passively to autonomy.

    I slept very little last night πŸŒ™ because I thought my tattoo apt was this afternoon and I was afraid. I found out this morning that the apt is for next Thursday and felt a relief.

    If you do choose a tattoo. I wonder what it’d be.

    I think I get one significant difference between your mother and mine: you say she avoided you a lot, which is why, I imagine, you were able to be an independent child? Mine was always there, physically (unless she was at work), suffocating me with her loud and constant and controlling, yet unattended, unempathetic presence.

    No room for me to be independent, not even able to say Yes or No.

    What your mother told you, of course, is highly inappropriate. My mother told me and others (in my presence) sexual details about other people’s lives.. highly inappropriate to expose a child to adult content.

    It’s encouraging to read that your adopted mother had a tattoo when she was about my age. Maybe I’ll survive it (if I don’t cancel the apt).

    Sounds like πŸ‘ you’re doing an excellent job building internal resources, one of which is to comfort yourself. I need to build more of that, self soothing.

    I hope πŸ™ you are having a good evening. Here it’s just after 10 am, very cold out, a few thin snowflakes appeared for the first time this unusually warm winter. But now the sun is out.

    I feel like I just had a talk with a good friendπŸ™

    🀍 Anita

    #455346
    anita
    Participant

    * un-attuned, unempathetic presence

    #455356
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    Had 2 walks with Bogart, practicing what you taught me with some good results, but still I need to get better at training him to walk slower because when I say NO ( I also say SLOW), he looks at me like he doesn’t know what I’m referring to, and at least at times, he still pulls.

    Right now, I am sitting at the taproom after finding out the apt is TODAY, in 16 minutes. Allowed to have 1 glass of wine 🍷 (not more because alcohol diluted the blood and is bad for tatooing). I hope it happens soon, I don’t like the anticipation.

    13 minutes.

    πŸ™ Anita

    #455358
    anita
    Participant

    Back home. Tattoo done, almost painless and beautiful πŸ™‚

    #455365
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Personally never understood the need to get a tattoo. Can I ask what the reason for getting the tattoo and what does the tattoo represent to you. Some people do it as a way to be part of a community. Others just think it is neat/cool. And then there are others who use it to mark an important moment in their life. I had a friend who was into getting tattoos. They were beautiful. But, never asked about it for fear it might make them feel insecure or that I was being critical/judgy. So, if you do not want to answer then that is okay.

    #455366
    Peter
    Participant

    Thomas, I have the same curiosity and fear. Begging the question: what is the etiquette around tattoos?
    Some are works of art and I really want to look and hear their story, but I never ask. Caution being the better part of Valor. πŸ™‚

    #455373
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Thomas:

    Well, it never crossed my mind to have a tattoo and I’m about your age.

    How it came about? Spending time in the local taproom since 2017, were I felt closer to people than I ever felt, more like a child among children- because the “other children” had tattoos- I wanted to be one of them. To share their interest, to show my approval of them that way.

    I didn’t consciously think the above. I am thinking it now because you asked.

    Also, the tattoo artist is such a charming, genuinely lovely person whom I’ve known for some time (her tattoo shop is adjacent to the taproom), I wanted to give her business just so to support her. To make her happy.

    As to the nature of the tattoo, I shared about it with Alessa most recently. It’s about love, really (you can read about it above, if you care to 😊 )

    Also, I see no harm in it. It’s not that I’d be willing to do something harmful or bad just because ‘everyone’s doing it πŸ˜†

    🎡🀍 Anita

    #455379
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Peter,

    There definitely is a social norm that we must follow which keep us from asking questions. However, I have found that on forums, there is no direct embarrassment cause the person can ignore the question. Which is what I expected, to be ignored. But, having got an answer, I am grateful to Anita for answering. And feel closer to her cause she took the time to answer.

    Anita,

    Yes, thank you for your answer. It seems to be like many things. When the proper conditions arise, it happens. I always thought if I got drunk enough and in with a bunch of friends that I might get a tattoo. But, that never happened for me. And I really don’t know what I would get. I mean it is going to be there always. Well, thank you for answering. Hope it went well and keep it clean while it heals.

    #455380
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Thomas:

    I’m so.. what’re the words.. sincerely appreciative of your reply only about 40 minutes before I’ll be submitting this reply. Thanking me for answering your question, that’s special πŸ™

    As to what you’d get if you did choose to get a tattoo.. something from deep within your soul. Something real to you, something that’s not waiting for ANYONE’S approval.

    Something that’s all you and nothing awaiting or requiring anyone’s approval?

    Maybe something like: I did my best even if my best wasn’t good enough for (whomever cares to judge me)?

    I’m projecting, accurately or not.

    My point is, like I said before, you’re a good person, Thomas. You deserve nothing but peace of mind.

    I was at the taproom tonight, 24 hours after getting my first ever tattoo.

    Had a 2nd glass of red wine 🍷 and now back home. There’s plastic covering the tattoo, have to keep it on for another 24 hours. Not a problem so far. Could be that the tattoo is only 5 letters, an inch size.

    Good night, Thomas. Thank you 😊

    🀍 Anita

    #455384
    anita
    Participant

    About the experience of being Alone Again (AA, lol), whatever comes to mind:

    Thomas wrote yesterday: “(I) feel closer to her”, meaning to me.

    Well, this is EVERYTHING right here, feeling close to people. It doesn’t need to be a romantic kind of closeness, of course, or any kind of categorized closeness- just simple, human closeness.

    I think it’s called “Agape” in the new testament, brotherly love, or sisterly love- not even categorized by gender. Better say, human love.

    Or not even categorizing it by species, as dogs love people and people love dogs (and other animals).

    But anyway, emotional closeness is magical ✨️. It makes all the difference in the world.

    And closeness can be online because we are people, real flesh and blood.. and emotions behind the words we type.

    Closeness is what I was deprived of, severely deprived growing-in (way more accurate than saying growing up, or outward).

    I don’t mean physical closeness. I mean emotional closeness.

    There was my mother, physically too close, but emotionally WORLDS 🌎 😒 APART.

    And then she insisted that I don’t get close to anyone else (aunts, uncles, cousins, peers in school or in the neighborhood, or anyone else).

    So, no emotional closeness with anyone day after day, year after year.. decade after decade.

    I am writing this not to blame, not because I am stuck. But because I am unstuck.

    Alone Again, unnaturally. It’s unnatural to be alone (for too long).

    This is all I have to say this Sat night πŸŒ™, well, evening really.

    Oh, one more thing: I took the plastic off of my tattoo, washed it, put lotion on it, and it feels fine (a few people told me it’ll itch like crazy), but it doesn’t, not so far).

    Signing out for now.

    πŸ€πŸŽ΅πŸŒ™ Anita

    #455479
    Alessa
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    Congratulations on the new tattoo! I’m so pleased that everything went well. 😊

    Sorry for the delay in replying. I’m always busy over the weekend studying and have been very tired recently (a combination of my period and my son waking through the night). I have been thinking of you!

    How are you doing? How is Bogart getting on with the no pulling training? It does take them a little time and practice to figure it out. I’m glad you’ve had a bit of improvement already and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. β˜€οΈ

    Haha I destroyed my shoulders from the pulling with two huskies who were double my weight. I’m glad it’s good for something. πŸ˜‚

    Ah well I’ve always wanted a tattoo, and I even figured out what I want. But I haven’t had it designed yet because tattoos are a bit expensive. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Pokemon?

    I have been thinking about the subject of autonomy since you brought it up. I was reading about it and for 18 months to 3 years autonomy is about using the word no, learning to dress, eat and use the bathroom.

    Empathising with your child’s emotions, naming them and comforting them is critical. This teaches children to accept their own feelings.

    Teaching not to allow unwanted hugs even from well meaning family members develops body autonomy.

    Offering simple choices, like what to wear, what to eat develops decision making.

    People who have autonomy go on to be successful in life because they are comfortable with both positive and negative emotions and have learned to act in line with their wishes.

    It seems like your autonomy was very badly damaged, from the earliest stages? It is heartbreaking thinking about it like that. Not being allowed to progress from being a baby (totally reliant and enmeshed with mother) for the longest time. 🀍

    It is difficult to say because it was many things. I was the adult in the family from a young age taking care of everything. My mother was uneducated and quite simple minded. Putting it politely. My mother wanted a level of control over me even from a distance. That is why her rules were so strict even when she was not around. She didn’t want responsibility or to deal with the repercussions of her own choices.

    Just a result of circumstances and her personality.

    I was very lucky that a teacher intervened at a young age. Before the age of 5. I had been skipping school because of stress related migraines. She set up a tent for me to rest in when I had a sore head and stopped me from skipping school.

    I had other teachers who cared too. I was a polite and well behaved child. Teachers liked me and took care of me. Even hugged me before it was banned.

    I think outside influences are really helpful. But you were actively denied that. You didn’t really have a chance. 🀍

    #455484
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    I walked Bogart a couple of hours ago, training him still to not pull (using your guidance πŸ˜ŠπŸ™). We both made progress today: I am better at training him and there’s improvement on his part.

    Yesterday’s walk was tough and at one point I screamed at him and felt guilty. I made up my mind to learn from yesterday and glad I did better today.

    As we were walking, I was worried about why you didn’t reply to me, and I am glad to receive this reply a little while ago πŸ™

    I’ll keep in mind that you’re busy studying and being a dedicated, hard working mother πŸ‘©

    I’ll reply further this evening or tomorrow morning. I hope πŸ™ that both you and your son 😴 better tonight!

    πŸŒ™πŸ€πŸ˜΄ Anita

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