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  • #384113
    Anonymous
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    Dear Damien:

    It would be cruel of you to lead her to Hope again and then.. get Disappointed yet again, wouldn’t it.. If I was you, and I am indeed intent on marrying her and living together with her as soon as it is practically possible, as in next week, or next month- I would tell her just that, and if it’s okay with her, I would take the first step toward making it happen, without delay.. and then the next step, until it happens!

    But only if you really are ready to do that, to change your life as drastically as this..(?)

    anita

    #384116
    damien
    Participant

    Hello Anita

    Indeed. That’s also why she needs solid proof. Without what I told you, it would not be such a problem despite her depression.
    So you may perhaps understand what she means when she says  my changes are far from enough. She has pretty bad history. She need to see. She didn’t want to have further burden waiting so she took that decision. But I was hoping she would take her decision after seeing me..
    She can’t be disappointed again. It would be drama and extremely harsh for her. She couldn’t stand it.

    Of course now I can’t come straight away with that. But she need to feel I am ready. Or I don’t know maybe it would be a so great good surprise that she would accept. But risky, placing me in demand.. Before marriage she also need to see other changes. In some way it was also better we didn’t marry at that time. It would be very unhappy one. That’s why I keep telling to friends that covid was a chance for me. It gave me distance and time to improve on myself in all domains.

    My idea if she accepts would be having a time talking. Maybe invited her walking or having something. Or even at home. I would talk about the past, my regrets, my awareness in what I failed and understood, speak about present, my changes, what I am now, how I now I changed. And make transition to future to speak about my plans, making a family..
    If she doesn’t feel I am mature she won’t project. And if she feel ok, it could naturally lead to common projection.

    Now I going to send a message after almost one month. I will ask her about her, how she is and her job. And that I thought about her.

    #384119
    Anonymous
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    Dear Damien:

    I am trying to understand: are you ready to marry her now/ tomorrow OR not? (please answer Yes or No).

    Question restated: are you trying to resume a relationship that maybe will lead to marriage, maybe not OR are you ready now to make a lifetime commitment to be with her?

    (I didn’t understand what you meant by “Of course now I can’t come straight away with that”?)

    anita

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    #384121
    damien
    Participant

    Hello Anita.

    Yes I am ready. It’s not necessary about marriage. If we would be in the same country, maybe we would’t yet.  But I am really ready this time for lifetime fullfilment and do what I fail in the past.

    #384122
    Anonymous
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    Dear Damien:

    You had trouble committing to her for 7 years, didn’t lift a finger, as you phrased it. I am worried that you are still having trouble committing to her because you are vague, not clear:

    (1) You wrote: “I am ready this time for lifetime fulfilment“- what do you mean specifically by “lifetime fulfilment”?

    (2) You wrote: “Yes I am ready. It’s not necessary about marriage“- what is it that you are ready for specifically? And why is it.. not necessarily about marriage, are you not interested in marrying her?

    anita

    #384124
    damien
    Participant

    Hello anita.

    In fact, I tried to explain that I had different issues. Because before I didn’t solve my problems, I couldn’t commit. We were talking about, wanted to doo it. But I always escaped or avoided. I think I wasn’t mature. Because my situation was not great.

    Sorry I meant lifetime commitment. Yes I will do what is take in order to be able to live together. But as of now, it will be too early to offer her this right after. We’ll have to start over something new and she’ll have to trust me and see how I am.

    I have ready to commit in order to live with her. We never really lived together. So I was saying that for us marriage is a must. If living in the same country, we would have already start it and marry later. What I am ready is to commit to live with her whatever it takes.

     

    #384126
    Anonymous
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    Dear Damien:

    Well have to start over something new and she’ll have to trust me and see how I am“- this means that you are not ready to make a lifetime commitment to her. Your plan is to resume a relationship and see how it goes and where it takes you.

    You are expecting her, as pessimistic as she is about the 7-year relationship, to trust you for an 8th year, hoping that you will finally decide to marry her on the 9th year, the 10th.. sometime in the future?

    anita

    #384128
    damien
    Participant

    Hello anita

    It’s not quite that. Regarding the situation we can’t jump to marriage now. That doesn’t mean I don’t want. But for now it’s too early. She didn’t leave because I didn’t want to marry but rather because there were many issue. I would like to marry to live together but I thing now I can’t come with that. She will have to feel comfortable that I changed enough to be in a relationship again. After indeed we’ll marry to live together. I think it’s a big risk if I talk about marriage regarding the other issue she need first to see.

    #384132
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Damien:

    I suggest that when you communicate with her next, and definitely by the time you visit her, that you will let her know clearly that you believe that “it’s too early” for you to consider marriage with her, that you want to restart a relationship with her, get to know each other, resolve issues that exist, and over time, see where the relationship takes the two of you.

    Be honest with her not only about how you feel about her, but also about your intents (the paragraph above).

    anita

    #384133
    damien
    Participant

     

    Hello anita

    I don’t know if you understand all aspects. My intend is to marry.  But if you see the relationship at the moment, it’s definitively not what she wants to hear. She must know I am open to it that’s true. But it is not her priority right now.  It’s too early in the sense that we first need to adopt each other again. We will do step by step. It’s very difficult to know the whole situation but I would tell it’s not by telling her it would change something for the moment. What is the most important is that she feels secure : the job, my changes etc. Then we will consider next steps together and we will.

    But it’s true I may tell her this. Not that I am not ready. But all steps must be made before to achieve it. We will do fast anyway because we can’t do long distance anymore.  Some points can remain unclear for you. But the main issue was not to get marry. Yes at some point she wanted. But at the end she realized it wasn’t a good idea until I cleared the problems I had.

    I just contaxcted her today. But it was still very distance. We need to take the temperature. I can’t return to her that fast we need to take our time. I was almost afraid to ask her to already come in 10 days.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by damien.
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    #384136
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Damien:

    anita, I don’t know if you understand all aspects

    It would have been fascinating if I was to read a thread that she would write, expressing what she thinks, what she feels, what she wants… I wonder if you would be surprised if you read such a thread by her. I don’t think that you understand all aspects about her.

    Key is: be honest with her about everything. Reads to me that she deserves your complete honesty about all things: your feelings, your thoughts, your intents, your fears.. everything.

    anita

     

     

    #384138
    damien
    Participant

    Hello anita

    It would be indeed interesting. And I would be definitively surprised. Because there are so much things I would like to know.
    But I know I can’t just come like that after all this time. I can’t come straight with marriage. It’s what I intend. If discussion goes well and feels ok, I could go progressively with all the things. It could also be not confident enough to go on with all aspects. I learnt I should stay a bit in distance and not showing too much on trying to be back together. But still be interested. She will if she sees me a new person. Again it will depends how it goes. It will be necessary to speak a bit about the past. But it will be difficult she changes her mind. I will come in the excuse to come for stuff. It won’t be a date yet. I will have to see first how open she will be.
    Could I take like past, present and futur ?

    Now my first step would be to able to ask her I come. I already talked to her and she answered in 2 minutes which is already a good sign that we still have a connection..

    #384141
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Damien:

    It is exciting, the idea of there being so much more that you would like to know about her. I hope you ask, I hope she tells you.

    She will if she sees me a new person”– you are not completely new, you know. The old is still in you and much of it will be there for as long as you live. Increase the new, make peace with the old.

    anita

    #384143
    damien
    Participant

    Yes I hope. Even if I will have to refrain in the beginning like asking why she broke up.

    It’s true. She wouldn’t like as such. If I were, she wouldn’t see as the person she loved. But making a better person.

    Thank you for your advice.

    #384144
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Damien:

    You are welcome. I just noticed the title of your thread: “Depressive GF”- the adjective, “depressive”. Aim at seeing her as much more than depressive, find out what she wants, what she dreams of, what she wishes. And post again when you have some news about communicating with her, will you?

    anita

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