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December 4, 2022 at 10:17 am #411283SereneWolfParticipant
Dear Tee,
Iâm glad youâre doing better.you havenât started trusted them suddenly, right? You were still afraid that maybe you shared too much and that they havenât shared that much about their own weaknesses, which might put you in an unfavorable position.
You see? Their supportive reaction didnât do anything to disperse that fear of yours and make you trust them moreâŚYes youâre right and It does took time for me to start trusting them. Iâm guessing I need to loosen up hard grip a bit more
No, not at all. Not everyone is well intentioned and have our best interest in mind. You donât need to show too much vulnerability in professional settings. Or with acquaintances and people you only know superficially. Or even with some family members, with whom you donât feel safe.
I totally agree
And youâd need to be open to listen to your partner if she has such worries herself, and empathize with her, without judgment.
Both of you would need to be free to be yourself in the relationship, i.e. to be authentic, without sugar-coating things, pretending, hiding parts of yourself, or walking on eggshells etc.
Yes, I think some of these are the things that I have work on for my romantic relationships
That would include feelings of hurt, anger, sadness, impatience, envy, jealousy and other negative feelings that you may have either towards yourself, your partner, or other people. I am not saying you have all those feelings, just that these emotions would be unacceptable for you to express to your partner, right?
Yes so expressing this kind of negative feelings I just donât know how to do that well, I donât feel comfortable and I just try being more sarcastic or just sugar-coat things maybe?
For example, you said youâve been trying to be patient with your current girlfriend⌠but I can imagine it was hard for you, and you might have been trying to hide your anger and impatience? You didnât want to show it, but yet, you felt it?
Yes, Exactly!
Youâre still in the phase of looking for a suitable partner, right? And perhaps a suitable partner for you would be someone who shares the wanderlust, who likes to travel and hike and enjoys similar activities like you do. What I am trying to say is that having a deep, intimate relationship is not in contradiction with e.g. your love for adventure.
However, fear of emotional intimacy is indeed in contradiction with having a deep, intimate relationship. Those two donât go together.
That does sounds nice, But I donât really know what kind of person I want to be with or the fact if I want deep emotional intimacy with someone just yet. I just donât feel like ready for it?
Anyway, I think the solution is in rewriting some key scripts from your childhood, i.e. saying what needs to be said to your parents.
I think I already did that in my childhood like not in front of my parents but l did that because I knew that itâs wrong but out of respect I wasnât be able to tell them their mistakes
But I can try again in my imagination as you suggested
The above is called finishing the unfinished business. The best would be to do it in therapy, with a skillful therapist.
Okay I will do that. Probably from next month
(Donât do it to your parentsâ faces).
Obviously not.
The idea is to express what you need to express, feel all your emotions (including anger and hurt) and by doing that, put an end to the âold scriptâ. The old script is where you just endured and accepted abuse silently, made excuses for your father, and pretended that all is fine in front of your mother.
Yes expressing these things arenât easy for me but still Iâll try and hopefully finish this unfinished business and be strong and vulnerable at the same time.
you’re very understanding and insightful person. So thanks for your valuable insights, I highly appreciate it.đDecember 6, 2022 at 9:24 am #411411TeeParticipantDear Addy,
you are very welcome, and thank you for your kind words of appreciation.
It does took time for me to start trusting them. Iâm guessing I need to loosen up hard grip a bit more
I’ve just come across a video by one of my favorite psychologists, Dr. Henry Cloud, where he explains the connection between empathy and trust. He says (and I agree) that we tend to trust more, and understandably so, to people who show empathy to us, because they understand what we’re going through and aren’t judgmental but rather supportive. The video is on youtube and is titled “Using Empathy to Fuel Trust“.
It seems you had trouble trusting your girlfriends, even though they showed empathy for you. This could be because your trust was betrayed many years ago, with your mother promising to talk to your father and make him treat you better, and then failing to do it. You trusted her and she betrayed you. Also, she didn’t show real empathy for you, but expected of you to have empathy for a bully. She turned the concept of empathy on its head because we aren’t supposed to have empathy and understanding for the bully, but for the victim.
So I can see how your mother’s inappropriate reaction might have lead to you not having trust to open up to another person, and to guard your heart as much as possible, not to be attacked.
Yes so expressing this kind of negative feelings I just donât know how to do that well, I donât feel comfortable and I just try being more sarcastic or just sugar-coat things maybe?
In fact, the best would be if you could work through some of those emotions on your own – because they stem from your childhood wounds. If you have unresolved childhood trauma, it will pollute your relationship(s) as well.
Let’s say you get impatient and angry with your girlfriend about something. Probably it’s because there is an expectation underneath – something you expect from her, which she isn’t fulfilling. The question is a) is it a reasonable expectation, and b) have you communicated it with her? Because she might be doing something innocent, but it is triggering your childhood wound and you feel similarly like you did in your childhood, and you want it to go away. But it’s not really your girlfriend’s fault, but your own unresolved issues. That’s why I said you’d need to solve those unresolved issues first before you can engage in a relationship in a more healthy way.
That does sounds nice, But I donât really know what kind of person I want to be with or the fact if I want deep emotional intimacy with someone just yet. I just donât feel like ready for it?
As it seems, you’re not ready for it yet, because emotional intimacy is scary to you. This might change, but for now, it’s still scary.
I think I already did that in my childhood like not in front of my parents but l did that because I knew that itâs wrong but out of respect I wasnât be able to tell them their mistakes
Alright, so you’re saying that you knew it was wrong, both your father’s and your mother’s behavior, already when you were a child? So you weren’t blaming yourself for your father’s verbal abuse and your mother’s blaming you if you lost your temper?
I think that even if you were a very advanced child and youth, a part of you certainly did blame yourself, and is blaming yourself to this day. How do I know that? Because your inner critic is still very active. He has soaked in and is replicating the words of your father and your mother, two outer critics.
It seems to me that you’re blaming yourself for not being successful enough professionally – which is what your inner critic adopted from your father. And you’re also blaming yourself for being emotionally weak – which is what your inner critic adopted from your mother. So you’re blaming yourself for the same things that your parents were/are blaming you.
That’s why, Addy, even if a part of you knows that they are wrong, another part still believes them… That’s because the child always blames themselves when he/she is criticized by their parents. There’s no exception to that rule. The child in you still blames himself for being not good enough and not emotionally strong enough.
You as the adult Addy would need to get in touch with that child and tell him he’s not to blame. That there’s nothing wrong with him. You, the adult Addy, need to show him love and compassion that neither of your parents showed to you as a child. You need to be a good and loving parent to that boy – that’s how you will heal those childhood wounds. As I said, best do it in therapy.
(Donât do it to your parentsâ faces). – Obviously not.
Once you heal those core wounds (e.g. the wound of not being good enough), you’ll have a different relationship with yourself. You won’t blame yourself any longer, you’ll respect yourself more. And you won’t allow your parents to treat you with disrespect either. You’ll be able to set some basic rules for communication with them, so they cannot treat you the way they have been treating you all your life.
December 7, 2022 at 8:40 pm #411484SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
How are you? Recovered from Covid?The video is on youtube and is titled âUsing Empathy to Fuel Trustâ.
Thanks for sharing I’ll watch the video and let you know. Also I want to let you know nowadays I’m being more mindful about being empathic which does making me feel better.
something you expect from her, which she isnât fulfilling. The question is a) is it a reasonable expectation, and b) have you communicated it with her? Because she might be doing something innocent, but it is triggering your childhood wound and you feel similarly like you did in your childhood, and you want it to go away. But itâs not really your girlfriendâs fault, but your own unresolved issues.
That’s right but reasonable expectation or not I don’t want to get angry or disappointed. More like in serene state like I shouldn’t have problems with her actions, and I just have to see my reactions. and I can communicate first but If still she’s not able to understand then well we don’t need to continue doing the same spirals.
This might change, but for now, itâs still scary.
I want to change it. Yes
Alright, so youâre saying that you knew it was wrong, both your fatherâs and your motherâs behavior, already when you were a child? So you werenât blaming yourself for your fatherâs verbal abuse and your motherâs blaming you if you lost your temper?
Hmm so I knew they’re wrong yet still I blame myself sometimes. but you’re right it’s the self-critic
You as the adult Addy would need to get in touch with that child and tell him heâs not to blame. That thereâs nothing wrong with him. You, the adult Addy, need to show him love and compassion that neither of your parents showed to you as a child. You need to be a good and loving parent to that boy â thatâs how you will heal those childhood wounds. As I said, best do it in therapy.
Right and I did started practice (Mostly via sitting and imagination) that but because I didn’t do that before I don’t know how to do that progress of loving my inner child and being compassionate with him
Once you heal those core wounds (e.g. the wound of not being good enough), youâll have a different relationship with yourself. You wonât blame yourself any longer, youâll respect yourself more. And you wonât allow your parents to treat you with disrespect either. Youâll be able to set some basic rules for communication with them, so they cannot treat you the way they have been treating you all your life.
I totally agree I’m hope I’ll be able heal those core wounds of mine.
December 8, 2022 at 12:23 am #411489TeeParticipantDear Addy,
yes I am fully recovered, no more sleep problems, and also my sense of taste has recovered fully. So I am happy and grateful! Thank you for asking!
Thanks for sharing Iâll watch the video and let you know. Also I want to let you know nowadays Iâm being more mindful about being empathic which does making me feel better.
Good to hear! Did you have a situation in which you stopped yourself from using sarcasm and responded differently?
Thatâs right but reasonable expectation or not I donât want to get angry or disappointed. More like in serene state like I shouldnât have problems with her actions, and I just have to see my reactions.
You know, anger is not always bad – I mean feeling anger, not acting on it impulsively. There is another great video by the same psychologist, Dr. Henry Cloud, which I totally recommend watching. It’s called “Anger is a signal, not a solution“. It explains how anger can tell us that something’s wrong, that our boundaries are crossed and we’re not being treated right. It’s a signal that we need to change something about the situation or the relationship we’re in.
Dr. Cloud says that when we feel anger, we should examine whether it’s something unresolved coming from within us, or our boundaries and sense of well-being are indeed being violated, i.e. it’s an external problem. And then act accordingly. Never impulsively or aggressively though.
More like in serene state like I shouldnât have problems with her actions, and I just have to see my reactions.
It depends what her actions are. If she’s doing something that violates or disrespects you in some way, or promises things she doesn’t keep etc, then it’s normal to feel angry and upset (anger is a signal, remember!). But you don’t attack her, start yelling at her etc. Instead, you take a pause, breathe deeply, and clarify with yourself what it is that bothers you. And then you communicate with her, as calmly as possible, that this kind of behavior bothers you and what you would need from her in the future. So, it could be her fault indeed, but you communicate it in a calm, mature way.
I am saying this because you have a history of your mother accusing you of not being “cool” and “sensible” enough about being bullied by your father. She blamed you for your natural self-defense reaction, which is anger. But now, you don’t need to blame yourself for feeling angry. Instead, you take it as a signal and examine it. Anyway, watch Dr. Cloud’s video – he explained it excellently.
I want to change it. Yes
Good! And you will change it, with time, as you’re becoming more and more aware of yourself and working on your healing… it will change, there is no doubt about that.
Hmm so I knew theyâre wrong yet still I blame myself sometimes. but youâre right itâs the self-critic
Yes, the child always blames themselves when the parent criticizes them. Later, when you got older, you saw that their behavior was wrong, but the child part of you still believed that he is the one to blame, that he’s not good enough. And now your inner critic (which are the internalized voices of your father and mother) is blaming your inner child. The same dynamic as when you were a child, only now the critic is within your own head, not outside.
I did started practice (Mostly via sitting and imagination) that but because I didnât do that before I donât know how to do that progress of loving my inner child and being compassionate with him
You can try it when you get upset about something and your first reaction is to beat yourself up for not being super calm and serene. You can tell yourself “it’s okay Addy that you feel angry, no wonder you feel angry, this was indeed hurtful what they did… ” And so you validate your own anger, instead of scolding yourself for it.
You can also get yourself a cute fluffy animal (a teddy bear or something that symbolizes your inner child) and hug that animal and talk to it, caress it… Maybe it will help you communicate better with your inner child if you have something physical, not just an image in your head.
I totally agree Iâm hope Iâll be able heal those core wounds of mine.
You will, just have a lot of patience with yourself. Small steps, baby steps… and lots of validation of your own feelings, rather than judging yourself for it. Also, if you get frustrated with yourself for not healing faster, instead of criticizing and blaming yourself, have empathy for yourself, have patience, tell yourself it’s okay, you’re fine, you’re lovable, there’s nothing wrong with you… The key is self-acceptance, radical acceptance of all your feelings, allowing them to be…. without judging yourself for it.
The paradox is that the more accepting we are of our “faults” and “imperfections”, the faster we heal. That’s the power of self-compassion.
December 9, 2022 at 5:20 am #411544SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Hope you’re doing wellGood to hear! Did you have a situation in which you stopped yourself from using sarcasm and responded differently?
Yes. I did stop sarcasm in a harmful way. It’s been more than a week I think
I’ve watched both of the videos about the Empathy
Important thing I realized that it makes them think you’re on their side and it builds trust and how much important communication style is… And also think how would I feel?And for anger
I found out that there is still some level of controlling behavior
Because of someone says No I can’t directly accept it. It really opened my eyes that it’s just my expatiations towards them. Also about making mistakes it’s the perfectionist inside of me that gets angry.
So it’s a signal and not a solutionI spent two hours on journaling this morning đ
Yes, the child always blames themselves when the parent criticizes them. Later, when you got older, you saw that their behavior was wrong, but the child part of you still believed that he is the one to blame, that heâs not good enough. And now your inner critic (which are the internalized voices of your father and mother) is blaming your inner child. The same dynamic as when you were a child, only now the critic is within your own head, not outside.
Yes I agree. That’s why today while meditating I tried to connect my inner child. And it did felt good. I think not just today but like I’m already connected with my innerself/child more or less because that’s why I rarely feel alone and very comfortable spending time with myself
You can try it when you get upset about something and your first reaction is to beat yourself up for not being super calm and serene. You can tell yourself âitâs okay Addy that you feel angry, no wonder you feel angry, this was indeed hurtful what they did⌠â And so you validate your own anger, instead of scolding yourself for it.
You can also get yourself a cute fluffy animal (a teddy bear or something that symbolizes your inner child) and hug that animal and talk to it, caress it⌠Maybe it will help you communicate better with your inner child if you have something physical, not just an image in your head.
I like how simply you guide with step by step. Maybe I’ll try that…
Although nowadays I did start spending time with my neighbor’s little kid. and oh boy It’s really fun. and funny enough I do feel kinda caring father towards him. I’m teaching him how to ride a bicycle and it did give me water in the corner of my eyes time to time.
So does that counts?You will, just have a lot of patience with yourself. Small steps, baby steps⌠and lots of validation of your own feelings, rather than judging yourself for it.
Also, if you get frustrated with yourself for not healing faster, instead of criticizing and blaming yourself, have empathy for yourself, have patience, tell yourself itâs okay, youâre fine, youâre lovable, thereâs nothing wrong with you⌠The key is self-acceptance, radical acceptance of all your feelings, allowing them to beâŚ. without judging yourself for it.
The paradox is that the more accepting we are of our âfaultsâ and âimperfectionsâ, the faster we heal. Thatâs the power of self-compassion.
Well as in INFJ + Aries it’s not really easy but yeah I’m trying and I’m lot patient than before
I’ve read that combing traits are great a visionary leader, but it can also present some challenges. Like struggle with self-doubt and insecurity, and find it difficult to trust own instincts and abilities, also have difficulty setting boundaries and saying no to others, and may feel overwhelmed by the demands and expectations of others
December 10, 2022 at 12:22 am #411583TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf/Addy/Saiyan,
I am fine, thank you.
I saw you started a new thread, under a different user name, and presented an additional problem there: of suffering from an imposter syndrome. So even if you’re doing good and are successful, you still believe you’re not good enough and that you’re a fraud. That can easily be a consequence of heavy criticism, high expectations and not being allowed to make mistakes in your childhood (e.g being criticized and scolded for getting even a single bad grade).
It seems both of your parents had high expectations from you in terms of school success, and very low tolerance if you weren’t scoring all As. Not just your father was like that, as I thought, but your mother as well. You said on your new thread: Part of it was also from my mother. I was really scared of her like what sheâd say? sheâd be disappointed. And I was disappointed in myself too.
In that environment, surrounded by such high expectations and such low tolerance for making a mistake, you put yourself (and were put by your parents) under a lot of pressure to perform. And you also adopted the belief that you’re not good enough if you’re not scoring all As all the time. Only total perfection would have been good enough, if that.
Over time, you’ve developed the inner critic, telling you that you’re a failure and not good enough. And so now, even though you’re doing considerably well and have professional success, you still can’t believe that you’re actually good enough. You still believe you’re that sloppy, underperforming boy who failed to reach perfection and failed to please his parents. A part of you still sees you as a failure. And as such, every success must be accidental – it’s not really your merit. Because in your own eyes, you’re not good enough.
That’s I think at the core of your imposter syndrome. And the way to treat is the same as treating your low self-esteem, perfectionism and other issues we’ve talked about so far. Change that internal talk, don’t listen to the inner critic, tell yourself kind, loving things. Tell yourself it’s okay to make mistakes. Tell yourself you’re good enough and worthy, even if you’ve made some mistakes in the past, and will still be making more mistakes in the future. We’re human, it’s in our nature to make mistakes.
Your parents wanted you to be a superhuman, you were denied to make mistakes. Well, now give yourself that right and free yourself from the heavy burden of perfection. You’re a human, not a robot.
I would like to note that on the other thread you said you don’t know how to journal, while here you said you spent 2 hours journaling yesterday. On the other thread you’re questioning whether therapy would help you, while here you said you’d probably try therapy next month.
Please be honest, Addy/SereneWolf/Saiyan – mostly with yourself. If you don’t like the idea of therapy, because you believe you’d be judged, because you’re surrounded with people who believe that “only crazy and mentally unstable people need psychotherapy” – well, you can say this. I won’t judge you if you’re uncomfortable going to therapy. In fact, it’s good to know that you would probably feel judged by your parents and you don’t want that. So, fear of their judgment is present in you. Okay, notice it, admit it, write it down. There is more chance to resolve it if you first admit it to yourself.
I did start spending time with my neighborâs little kid. and oh boy Itâs really fun. and funny enough I do feel kinda caring father towards him. Iâm teaching him how to ride a bicycle and it did give me water in the corner of my eyes time to time.
So does that counts?Nice to hear that! If you approach him with lots of love and patience, not scolding him for not getting it right immediately, then yes, it can be a wonderful experience for you – to experience how it is to have a loving, patient, empathic father, rather than a strict, angry and judgmental one. So yes, I think it’s helping your inner child too!
I am glad you’ve watched both videos by Dr. Henry Cloud, and that you like the concept that anger is a signal, not a solution.
As for empathy, you said:
Important thing I realized that it makes them think youâre on their side and it builds trust and how much important communication style is⌠And also think how would I feel?
Well, in fact, empathy is when you don’t pretend that you understand the other person’s point of view, but that you truly try to understand it and put yourself in their shoes. The way you phrased it (it makes them think you’re on their side) can be interpreted as if you’re not really on their side, but only pretend to be, so you can build trust. Just wanted to clarify this – in case there was a misunderstanding.
December 10, 2022 at 1:54 am #411585SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
I’m glad you’re doing well
And yes, people around me does makes me feel like psychotherapy isn’t normal so I’m hesitant for that. I apologize if it showed up in different mannered wayIn that environment, surrounded by such high expectations and such low tolerance for making a mistake, you put yourself (and were put by your parents) under a lot of pressure to perform. And you also adopted the belief that youâre not good enough if youâre not scoring all As all the time. Only total perfection would have been good enough, if that.
Over time, youâve developed the inner critic, telling you that youâre a failure and not good enough. And so now, even though youâre doing considerably well and have professional success, you still canât believe that youâre actually good enough. You still believe youâre that sloppy, underperforming boy who failed to reach perfection and failed to please his parents. A part of you still sees you as a failure. And as such, every success must be accidental â itâs not really your merit. Because in your own eyes, youâre not good enough.
Thatâs I think at the core of your imposter syndrome. And the way to treat is the same as treating your low self-esteem, perfectionism and other issues weâve talked about so far. Change that internal talk, donât listen to the inner critic, tell yourself kind, loving things. Tell yourself itâs okay to make mistakes. Tell yourself youâre good enough and worthy, even if youâve made some mistakes in the past, and will still be making more mistakes in the future. Weâre human, itâs in our nature to make mistakes.
You said well, and clear and I should remember this and work on the “Inner self critic”
empathy is when you donât pretend that you understand the other personâs point of view, but that you truly try to understand it and put yourself in their shoes. The way you phrased it (it makes them think youâre on their side) can be interpreted as if youâre not really on their side, but only pretend to be, so you can build trust. Just wanted to clarify this â in case there was a misunderstanding.
Yes I know I got it
December 10, 2022 at 8:23 am #411590TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
And yes, people around me does makes me feel like psychotherapy isnât normal so Iâm hesitant for that. I apologize if it showed up in different mannered way
I think I understand why you decided to start a new thread, under a new name â maybe in part because you wanted other opinions about how to help yourself without therapy? The truth is that you can do a lot for yourself without therapy, including work on diminishing your inner critical voice too. But having a supportive, positive voice (or voices) in your surroundings is also very important, because you can’t do it on your own entirely â you can’t pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.
I’m again going to suggest a video by Dr. Henry Clod (he has a video on almost any topic! đ ). It’s titled “This is how you replace the critical voices in your head“. He talks about self-help but also other people’s help â be it in form of therapy or coaching or a support group, or even just friends who will support you and encourage you rather than judge you and criticize you.
For example, you say that you are surrounded by people who judge those who go to psychotherapy:
Iâm surrounded with people who thinks only crazy and mentally unstable people needs psychotherapy.
Are those judgmental people only your parents, or also your girlfriend, friends and colleagues? Is there anybody in your life who would actually be supportive of you working on yourself, so you can be happier and more satisfied than you are now? If not, I suggest you surround yourself with positive people, who have your true best interest in mind, not by those who think they know what’s best for you.
December 11, 2022 at 1:39 am #411703TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
I’d like to add something to what I’ve said in my last sentence (to surround yourself with people who support you). I know this might not be easy for you, specially if you’ve never really shared about your internal struggles with other people, if you were hesitant to talk about your fears, self-doubts, insecurities etc. If you don’t have friends whom you can confide it, you can’t just suddenly surround yourself with such people.
That being said, it would still be important that you do have someone to talk to (besides us on the forum), someone who can support you in your growth. Even the top CEOs strive to grow, and many of them have coaches. Not only business coaches, but personal coaches, who help them deal with the challenges of managing people and managing the company. They’re not embarrassed to seek help – on the contrary, they are proud of it. They are in the growth mindset, which also includes growth in emotional health, empathy and soft skills in general – everything that you are aiming for.
 people around me does makes me feel like psychotherapy isnât normal so Iâm hesitant for that.
But growth is normal, right? Even desirable? How about reframing your quest as the quest for growth, for being the best version of yourself, instead of “healing from disease”? Would that help you accept that it’s okay to seek help, that it’s not an embarrassment (like maybe you thought so far)?
December 11, 2022 at 5:09 am #411705SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Thanks for giving me a new perspective to see this in a different way because I was looking this matter as like because of this “I’m not enough ” and looking this more as more like a disease instead of looking how growth there is and how much I’m working on myself
and Yes you’re right thanks for another reminder that we are humans no matter the position and we all need help.
December 11, 2022 at 7:22 am #411701SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
I think I understand why you decided to start a new thread, under a new name â maybe in part because you wanted other opinions about how to help yourself without therapy?
That is right Yes!Iâm again going to suggest a video by Dr. Henry Clod (he has a video on almost any topic!  ). Itâs titled âThis is how you replace the critical voices in your headâ.
I’ll watch it and get back to youAre those judgmental people only your parents, or also your girlfriend, friends and colleagues?
I’d say mostly some of my friends and colleagues. Because at work I’m spending time with them and when I’m out I’m spending time with them, and I guess like me they may have vulnerability issues like me too that’s why they’re afraid of opening up.December 11, 2022 at 9:42 am #411718TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
I am glad that it helped you to get a different perspective – that of growth instead of disease. And also that you were reminded that we all need help, regardless of our position in the company and the level of success we have. In fact, it could be that successful people are more open to getting help (i.e. to work on themselves), and that’s what makes them so successful! I am not sure about this, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it were true.
Iâd say mostly some of my friends and colleagues. Because at work Iâm spending time with them and when Iâm out Iâm spending time with them, and I guess like me they may have vulnerability issues like me too thatâs why theyâre afraid of opening up.
Okay, so it’s not your parents but your friends and colleagues, the people you spend most of your time with. I think you’re right – they too probably don’t feel comfortable talking about their issues, but pretend that everything is fine. I don’t want to use stereotypes but sometimes when men get together, it’s hard to really talk honestly – it’s all about joking, sarcasm and trying to verbally outsmart each other. I am not saying all men are like that, but they are more prone to putting on a mask of a “tough, cool guy”, because that’s what they think is expected of them. And it’s a defense mechanism – they think that showing vulnerability is weak and dangerous. So they just do what they think is safe – which is to pretend. Maybe you’re surrounded by those kind of guys (and maybe girls too)?
December 12, 2022 at 6:51 am #411760SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
How was your weekend?it could be that successful people are more open to getting help (i.e. to work on themselves), and thatâs what makes them so successful! I am not sure about this, but I wouldnât be surprised at all if it were true.
That could be right just yesterday I watched video on LinkedIn by Simon Senek how vulnerability could the greatest power in leadership position but it’s also right that creating an emotionally safe environment for your team it ain’t no easy work. But somehow, I’ll learnI watched the video “This is how you replace the critical voices in your headâ.
Things I noticed like you said before I do have to surround myself with positive people. And I see that I do interact with positive people. Some of my friends gives me good vibes and even at work It’s going good. But the thing is that people everywhere taking criticism very seriously and praise very lightly that’s what I noticed and same thing is happening with me. So I’ve decided to start new thing for my team if someone is doing better at least 3 people closest to the member and included team leader should write little handwritten note (Even if just a small sticky note) to make that person feel like that did something good and it would cheer them. I’m working remotely but still I think I’d design little canva card just to be more informal way of appreciation. Because no matter what Email would look formal. Because these reminders are important for loud critical voices
Also with his daughter Olivia and sheep example he cleared that it’s all in our head. Which makes me remember the quote by Seneca “We suffer more in imagination than in reality”
And building neuroplasticity with practice – What’s your experience with that so far?
 itâs all about joking, sarcasm and trying to verbally outsmart each other. I am not saying all men are like that, but they are more prone to putting on a mask of a âtough, cool guyâ, because thatâs what they think is expected of them.
That’s more or less true and the thing is that my group is always like take everything down with smile, don’t say No (Which is like my biggest problem) because we feel like we should be capable of anything, and we shouldn’t disappoint people by Saying NO. Which is why I’ll watch video of Henry Cloud of How to create boundaries and let you know more about it
they think that showing vulnerability is weak and dangerous
Exactly that’s what I mean, so I’m trying to be more open and vulnerable with some of them (in IT we do alpha test like an MVP like testing something before it’s fully developed) So I’m just experimenting that does this can work or we guys just want to stick to this belief that we always have to be the tough, and vulnerability is weakness, and make them realize that it’s really not a sustainable belief and what you can call a growth mindset
Because yeah pretending would make us emotionally exhausted(and maybe girls too)
Hmm actually I think women do have more EQ, because from my experience most of the female friends (not gfs) that I have they’re more open and vulnerable they trust in me, empathy, communication their way to express their selves can’t be even compared with my guy friends.
Although I do know some of the arrogant ones to who just to prove themselves that they’re right and others are wrong. But I mostly ignore those onesDecember 13, 2022 at 2:09 am #411779TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
well it was cold and rainy for the weekend, but now it’s cold and sunny, which is a much better option đ
That could be right just yesterday I watched video on LinkedIn by Simon Senek how vulnerability could the greatest power in leadership position
I like Simon Sinek, yes he talks a lot about true leadership and I think that according to him, good leadership has some components of good parenting. I remember he said “good leaders eat last”, as in taking care of your team’s needs first. In fact, I see that there’s a book of his with that title (“Leaders eat last”), but haven’t read it. In any case, Simon Sinek is definitely the person to learn from about good leadership, which includes vulnerability too.
itâs also right that creating an emotionally safe environment for your team it ainât no easy work. But somehow, Iâll learn
No, it’s not an easy work, but it starts with you, as their leader. First you’d need to embrace vulnerability as something positive, as a virtue, not a weakness. And then you can encourage others too…
I watched the video âThis is how you replace the critical voices in your headâ.
Glad you watched the video! And that you’re planning to watch his video on setting boundaries too. I really like his style, he explains things so well. In fact he is an executive coach too, and I guess he too teaches vulnerability (and boundaries) to leaders as well. I am really glad to have people like him and Simon Sinek influence the business community…
Things I noticed like you said before I do have to surround myself with positive people. And I see that I do interact with positive people. Some of my friends gives me good vibes and even at work Itâs going good.
from my experience most of the female friends (not gfs) that I have theyâre more open and vulnerable they trust in me, empathy, communication their way to express their selves canât be even compared with my guy friends.
Good to hear that! It’s also good that you have female friends who are open and honest with you, show empathy and don’t pretend when they communicate with you. And if they are also positive, having in general an optimistic outlook on life and are supportive when you need it – then it’s a great treasure. Those are really good, valuable friends!
As for the guys, maybe some of them are positive because they believe they have to be positive, that it’s expected of them:
The thing is that my group is always like take everything down with smile, donât say No (Which is like my biggest problem) because we feel like we should be capable of anything, and we shouldnât disappoint people by Saying NO.
Do you, as a team leader, never say NO to your supervisors, even though you sometimes have concerns about the feasibility of the task? Do you feel you shouldn’t disappoint your bosses, and so you accept everything, and then you and your team suffer as the result? I’m asking because I’d like to understand the dynamics…
But the thing is that people everywhere taking criticism very seriously and praise very lightly thatâs what I noticed and same thing is happening with me. So Iâve decided to start new thing for my team if someone is doing better at least 3 people closest to the member and included team leader should write little handwritten note (Even if just a small sticky note) to make that person feel like that did something good and it would cheer them.
I am not sure if I understood it well: so you’re planning to introduce a system of appreciative notes – for those who are performing well, or exceeding the average performance (if someone is doing better)? Or is it for those who were criticized and have improved their performance since?
And building neuroplasticity with practice â Whatâs your experience with that so far?
Well, I can tell you that my inner critical voice is very silent, almost inaudible nowadays đ It doesn’t mean I am not aware of my weaknesses, it’s just that I have much more compassion and understanding for myself than before. I don’t know if this would be visible in how those neurons in the brain are firing, but that’s what happened đ I do still have anxiety in certain situations, my amygdala getting triggered, but it’s not related to my self-esteem. So I definitely am different than I was years ago…
December 14, 2022 at 9:23 am #411823SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Here itâs also cold and sunnygood leadership has some components of good parenting. I remember he said âgood leaders eat lastâ, as in taking care of your teamâs needs first.Â
I agree! Iâll try to look for a book and learn from it.
No, itâs not an easy work, but it starts with you, as their leader. First youâd need to embrace vulnerability as something positive, as a virtue, not a weakness. And then you can encourage others tooâŚ
Yes Thatâs what Iâm trying to do
 And that youâre planning to watch his video on setting boundaries too. I really like his style, he explains things so well.
Yes I totally agree I like the style, he always try to explain things with simple examples without making it too complex.
So for a creating boundaries video he gave an example like suppose boundary is like.. itâs your own property so try to have a good neighbourhood first (Being around with good supportive and loving people) which also connects the dot for critical voice videoNeighbours canât tell what colour my house should be
Good to hear that! Itâs also good that you have female friends who are open and honest with you, show empathy and donât pretend when they communicate with you. And if they are also positive, having in general an optimistic outlook on life and are supportive when you need it â then itâs a great treasure. Those are really good, valuable friends!
Yes and the really good thing Iâm noticing these days because Iâm mindful about empathy is that theyâre more open with me as well so I do feel better connected with them. So Iâm really grateful having good friends.
As for the guys, maybe some of them are positive because they believe they have to be positive, that itâs expected of them:
Yes I think thatâs right but I can see right through them theyâre tired with this. They have their needs too, Not only expectations
Do you, as a team leader, never say NO to your supervisors, even though you sometimes have concerns about the feasibility of the task? Do you feel you shouldnât disappoint your bosses, and so you accept everything, and then you and your team suffer as the result? Iâm asking because Iâd like to understand the dynamicsâŚ
Okay so for this I do struggle with that. Most of the time I say Yes and then get anxious as well. And I do feel like I shouldnât disappoint my bosses or my team members but itâs like a dilemma If Iâm saying Lot of YES means in some way Iâm disappoint my team members because of more work and also the pressure (Which I feel too) and If I say NO even though sometimes itâs okay I overthink about it like I shouldnât have said No to Him/her. Because itâs my work and I shouldnât say No.
But recently I read the good article about prioritization. In which I got an idea like before saying Yes first ask âIs it okay if I say NO?â which would make opposite person think twice before the putting work on you. But yeah, Iâm still hesitating. and sometimes I donât even listen the whole thing and be like âDonât worry, consider it done.âI am not sure if I understood it well: so youâre planning to introduce a system of appreciative notes â for those who are performing well, or exceeding the average performance (if someone is doing better)? Or is it for those who were criticized and have improved their performance since?
Iâm thinking more like⌠Let me give you an example If youâre a someone who takes care of plants. Taking care of plants doesnât mean only watering plants it comes with different responsibilities. But you understand those responsibilities youâre not only watering the plant but also taking care of soil which also affects overall nutrition of plant.
And now the thing is that there are new team members comes in my team too they would know only how to water the plant but when they understand and be adaptive and understand so even just little things that they understands they deserve appreciation.
 I can tell you that my inner critical voice is very silent, almost inaudible nowadays đ It doesnât mean I am not aware of my weaknesses, itâs just that I have much more compassion and understanding for myself than before. I donât know if this would be visible in how those neurons in the brain are firing, but thatâs what happened đ I do still have anxiety in certain situations, my amygdala getting triggered, but itâs not related to my self-esteem. So I definitely am different than I was years agoâŚ
Well I thatâs really awesome that you have this much of self-awareness. Iâm also working on my compassion part.
And yeah if youâre comfortable and want to talk about your anxiety and triggers with me, you sure can đ
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