Menu

I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love

HomeForumsRelationshipsI just randomly and suddenly fell out of love

New Reply
Viewing 15 posts - 226 through 240 (of 425 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #453290
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    “I genuinely have no clue what loving myself means”- When a child grows up without love, the child figures he’s not worthy of what he needs so desperately.

    You shared earlier: “The relationship with my mother was very chaotic, violence and arguing constantly, throwing some awkward affection here and there, then rinse and repeat”- The affection in-between felt awkward.. meaning you didn’t trust it to last, did you?

    If you were fortunate enough to grow up in a calm, peaceful, and stable environment; if instead of chaos, you knew predictability, instead of violence- safety, instead of constant arguing- healthy communication, then you would have mirrored the love you’d had receive and naturally (without necessarily thinking it) you would have loved yourself.

    You shared earlier in regard to your romantic interest: “What I’m feeling when we talk is like I’m talking to a stranger, feeling cold and apathetic. Like my mind erased her in a way, or she has done something bad to me”- It may be that you projected the mental image of your mother into her (without realizing it) and re-experienced seeing your mother as a stranger.

    “I can’t recall loving myself, ever.”- If you close your eyes, give yourself a hug and say to yourself “I love you”, how does it feel?

    🤍 Anita

    #453294
    Confused
    Participant

    Hello anita!

    I literally feel like i’ve never done that in the past so it’s foreign language to me.

    Yes, i didn’t trust anything good to last, always expected things to go south at some point.

    Well, how do we do that since we haven’t been taught when we were kids? I think that’s a big issue for me.

    Yeah, i feel like that because my mind severed the connection, and her behaviour (colder-less affectionate, which is kinda justified) doesn’t help bridge the gap at all. I thought of that possibility, but how can we know if such thing happened? I can’t fathom this concept. It feels like i can’t feel any warmth towards any connection right now (not even friends-family).

    If i do that, it feels strange/cringe and fake in a way. Like myself doesn’t believe me, it feels like something uknown to me.

    #453298
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused: I’ll reply in a few hors.

    #453300
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Confused:

    “Well, how do we do that since we haven’t been taught when we were kids? I think that’s a big issue for me.”-

    It’s difficult to love a person you don’t like, isn’t it? On the other hand, it may be easy to love someone you like.

    My mother’s words and behaviors sent me the message that she didn’t like me, that she was far from approving of me. For as long as I gave her the authority to determine my (non) worth, I neither liked nor loved myself.

    Does this resonate with you?

    “If I do that (hugging yourself), it feels strange/cringe and fake in a way. Like myself doesn’t believe me, it feels like something unknown to me.”- Are you willing to make it KNOWN for yourself, to take that leap of faith yourself.. or are you waiting for someone else (such as a romantic interest) to make that leap for you?

    🤍 Anita

    #453303
    Confused
    Participant

    Hello again
    Yes it’s very difficult indeed, i usually turn the other way if i dont like someone.

    I think it does resonate but i never thought to give my mother’s words importance, perhaps this was a conscious reaction to a subconscious need/feeling.

    How do you make it known to yourself? I’ve always valued myself according to my partner liking me, etc.

    #453304
    anita
    Participant

    Hello again and again.. Confused 😊:

    “How do you make it known to yourself?”- By knowing I didn’t deserve my mother’s abuse/ non-love. That she didn’t even SEE me, let alone, evaluate me. Her judgment is peeled off of me, and what’s left is a good little girl dormant for half a century.

    “I never thought to give my mother’s words importance”- that must have been after her words were already absorbed, taking hold.. Maybe later when you were a teenager, you rebelled, fought back. But the young boy you were, like any child, just absorbs, no defenses.

    🤍 Anita

    #453317
    Confused
    Participant

    But can u feel that consciously? Because i can’t feel any of these.

    Yes it was after i formed my own “mind” and beliefs, but maybe it was too late for that.

    Do you suggest IFS to get to the root of all those? Btw, it’s not that my feelings of infatuation returned for the girl, but now i don’t get the urge to run when we talk, seems like i can kinda develop some deep convos lately.

    #453331
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    Congratulations for developing some calmer, deep convos with her lately!

    “But can u feel that consciously?”- if you don’t force yourself to feel anything you don’t feel, feelings will settle within you at their own timing.

    Also, chronic shame and/ or guilt keep loving feelings out. Chronic shame and guilt need to be resolved so that you can feel ongoing affection, compassion or love for others.. as well as for yourself.

    Feeling affection or compassion for myself is still new to me. I didn’t know it was possible to feel affection for myself until I did.

    You asked about IFS (Internal Family Systems). According to IFS, chronic shame is almost always carried by an Exile (Exiles= the hurt or vulnerable parts carrying old pain) — a young, hurt part of you that once felt: ‘I’m bad.’, ‘I’m unlovable.’, ‘Something is wrong with me.’, ‘I’m not enough.’

    IFS says: Shame is not who you are — it’s a young part of you carrying a burden that never belonged to it, and that healing happens when the Self (your calm, compassionate core) meets that part with understanding instead of fear or avoidance.

    Chronic guilt is usually carried by a Protector part, (Protectors= the parts that try to keep you safe- perfectionist, controller, avoider, etc.)

    This part believes: ‘If I keep you feeling guilty, you won’t hurt anyone.’, ‘If I punish you, you’ll stay good.’, ‘If I remind you of mistakes, you’ll never repeat them.’. It’s trying to keep you moral, safe, and connected, but it uses guilt as its tool.

    IFS sees chronic guilt as: a protective strategy, a part trying to prevent harm, a protective strategy that formed when you needed it.

    In IFS, emotional dissociation or ‘losing feelings’ is almost always a Protector part. Dissociation = a protector doing its job.
    When a person feels overwhelmed, hurt, rejected, or unsafe, a part steps in and says: ‘This is too much. I’ll shut down the feelings so you don’t get hurt again.’ It’s trying to protect you from emotional pain.

    IFS calls this kind of protector a ‘numbing protector’ or ‘disconnecting protector’.

    It usually appears when: feelings are too intense, you aren’t supported emotionally, expressing emotions isn’t safe, or when you have to ‘function’ despite trauma or stress

    So the protector says: ‘If I turn off the feelings, you can survive.’

    Underneath dissociation, there is almost always an Exile carrying: shame, fear, grief, loneliness, rejection, and/ or emotional overwhelm.

    IFS’s core message about dissociation: It’s not a flaw. It’s not who you are. It’s a part doing its best to keep you safe.

    And when the Self approaches it with curiosity and compassion, it often softens — because it finally feels understood instead of judged.

    Curiosity and Compassion, Confused (hmm… CCC)

    🤍 Anita

    #453340
    Confused
    Participant

    Hello anita!

    They are calmer in the sense that i don’t feel the need to run or the feeling of suffocation like before, still lacking connection, only surface/funny things (i guess it’s because she’s also closed off right now).

    I think i’ve never felt like i’m not deserving of love, just generally lacking the idea behind it.

    Those are very interesting and detailed things you posted about IFS.They explain many things but at the same time its so hard to grasp it.
    Have you ever done this therapy? I would like to try it out, i guess i gotta find some videos to guide me through it..wow so many parts could be hidden within us and we don’t even realize.

    #453341
    anita
    Participant

    Hello Confused!

    Not feeling the need to run, not feeling suffocated.. that’s excellent. Be patient with the process. Don’t force yourself to feel anything.

    “I think I’ve never felt like I’m not deserving of love, just generally lacking the idea behind it”- lacking the idea of deserving love? So.. not thinking you don’t deserve love, but never thinking you do deserve it?

    I didn’t go through a strict IFS therapy, only elements of it.

    Take your time, watch videos.. Let me know what it means to you..

    🤍 Anita

    #453342
    Confused
    Participant

    Im trying but then i get the feeling that i am leading her on/im a terrible person, etc because i can’t be the one i was before that. Even tho i kinda communicated that with her (not the entire thing) and she said to just accept myself for now and not think like that.

    No no, i think i don’t know what/how love feels like. I think it’s a far and blurred concept in my mind. I’ve only known how to be strong and be there for others, not how to love in general. And in romantic relationships, just the feeling of infatuation, nothing after that.

    I am having a hard time to find guides that specifically get you into this state but i think chatgpt can help with that.

    #453343
    anita
    Participant

    Hey, Confused:

    “I’ve only known how to be strong and be there for other”- if you let others be there for you, if you depend on another.. is it strength or weakness?

    Anita

    #453344
    Confused
    Participant

    A little bit weakness (like im not able to do it myself, so its devaluing me), a little bit mistrust (that they wont get it right) and a little bit like a burden (like im gonna owe them, or now they have “control” over me in a way, which i know is not true because i can refuse things, but yeah).

    #453345
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused becoming Clearer:

    “like I’m gonna owe them, or now they have ‘control’ over me in a way”- I think this is worth exploring.

    This Power Struggle.. it’s origin, with your mother?

    Anita

    #453366
    Confused
    Participant

    Hello anita, hopefully but it still doesn’t feel like it

    It is but i dont know how to explore it.
    Hmm, perhaps but i cant recall anything specific..

Viewing 15 posts - 226 through 240 (of 425 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Please log in OR register.