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  • #451690
    Alessa
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    Hi Ann

    Honestly, I understand your anxiety around water. ❤️ I drowned in a river and had to be given mouth to mouth as a teenager. I was slight too and I knew how to swim, albeit I was not a good swimmer. Your fear is realistic and you can’t be too careful when swimming in open water. A pool is much safer. Did you communicate your concerns about the sea to the group?

    I totally get it! That is modern dating for you. 🤷‍♀️ Most people have a bit of an addiction if they use their phones regularly, it seems. It’s natural to want a bit of attention from your partner. Do perhaps hold back from attending to these feelings until it frustrates you? What do you think?

    Ahh, I understand. Uncertainty makes me feel anxious sometimes too. A lot of life is uncertain though. It can be hard.

    I don’t think he meant anything bad by it though. Since you know that uncertainty is a trigger for you, when you feel anxious it might be helpful to check is this because of my uncertainty trigger? Triggers can make things seem bigger than they are. It can be helpful sometimes to practice self-soothing when you notice these kinds of triggers too make it regular sized. What kinds of things help your anxiety and make you feel calmer? ❤️

    Only if you feel comfortable. Are there any significant times in your life where you have felt this deep anxiety over uncertainty? Where do you think it might come from? ❤️

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feelings. Please feel free to share anything at all. ❤️

    #451841
    Ann
    Participant

    “I feel I still need to talk to him more about what happened”- yes, do talk to him about what happened, but do in small portions, little by little, in a way that doesn’t come across as defensive..

    I tried talking to him about it again by asking him why it bothered him that my friends kept asking him why i keep wanting to go to the mall during our trip. He said it didn’t bother him but that was just an example and they are my friends so he’s confused why they would ask him and expected that they should know the answer. I explained to him that it was because they have all been there before so it’s not their first time going, so maybe they weren’t as excited to explore; but for me, it WAS my first time going so of course I wanted to explore and walk around since it’s a new place to me. He didn’t understand and kept saying that we were going to the same mall, and was defending my friends. I felt so triggered like he and my friends don’t even try to see things from my perspective, only theirs. I get called selfish by him and it feels like he is refusing to try to understand me. It’s so frustrating. I end up crying because I am so frustrated.

    My friends mostly just wanted to stay at the beaches and hotel pool, and I tried to accommodate and stayed with them. I tried getting in the water, but don’t know how to swim so I end up just sitting on the sand and wait for them to be done. I still wanted to do something with them after the beach like getting dinner together at least and just talk, but every time after the beach and pool, they would say they don’t feel too good and that their head hurt, so they just end up staying in their hotel. I just felt frustrated and disappointed. My boyfriend of course didn’t mind just staying at the beach and hotel pool.

    It was just a bad idea to travel with him and my friends to Hawaii. Maybe we should have picked another destination. Now I feel resentment for them, mostly with my friends. I just don’t understand why it bothered him so much.

    #451842
    Ann
    Participant

    “Honestly, I understand your anxiety around water. ❤️ I drowned in a river and had to be given mouth to mouth as a teenager. I was slight too and I knew how to swim, albeit I was not a good swimmer. Your fear is realistic and you can’t be too careful when swimming in open water. A pool is much safer. Did you communicate your concerns about the sea to the group?

    I totally get it! That is modern dating for you. 🤷‍♀️ Most people have a bit of an addiction if they use their phones regularly, it seems. It’s natural to want a bit of attention from your partner. Do perhaps hold back from attending to these feelings until it frustrates you? What do you think?

    Ahh, I understand. Uncertainty makes me feel anxious sometimes too. A lot of life is uncertain though. It can be hard.

    I don’t think he meant anything bad by it though. Since you know that uncertainty is a trigger for you, when you feel anxious it might be helpful to check is this because of my uncertainty trigger? Triggers can make things seem bigger than they are. It can be helpful sometimes to practice self-soothing when you notice these kinds of triggers too make it regular sized. What kinds of things help your anxiety and make you feel calmer? ❤️

    Only if you feel comfortable. Are there any significant times in your life where you have felt this deep anxiety over uncertainty? Where do you think it might come from? ❤️

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feelings. Please feel free to share anything at all. ❤️”

    Hi Alessa.

    I did tell them briefly, but I felt they didn’t understand my concerns.

    I just got used to the phone thing. I feel there are bigger issues than that. I tried to bring things up when it bothers me. Sometimes when I bring certain things up, I feel it just gets dismissed and it would be about who’s right or wrong. I hate that and always get triggered when the conversation is about who is right or wrong. Why does it always have to be something is right or wrong?? My mom does that and my boyfriend does that. I hate it so much. Not everything is so black and white all the time.

    I try to walk or go sleep or shower to make myself feel better. But I’ve been spending a lot of money to cope with feeling sad and it’s not healthy.

    I think this uncertainty trigger got worse after the break up with my previous ex. Things with him were always on and off for years, and I didn’t find out that he had no intentions of marrying me or see a future. His actions were always proof. He would make plans and then the plans get cancelled. So over time, I got very angsty and irritable when things aren’t for sure..

    #451849
    Roberta
    Participant

    Hi Ann

    When people have been doing something for a long time they forget what it was like for them in the beginning. Take car driving for instance unless you think back to the basics & how over whelming & out of control it all feels at first, you wont make a good driving instructor.

    One of my bosses never learnt how to swim as a youngster, in their 50’s they went on a short holiday which was designed to teach older people how to swim.
    Also many people choose to swim parallel to the beach in not too deep water, but some locations where there is surf breaking a lot you have to go out a bit further to calmer water.

    I hope that you find your confidence both in the water & your relationship.
    Kind regards
    Roberta

    #451855
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Ann:

    “I tried talking to him about it again by asking him why it bothered him that my friends kept asking him why I keep wanting to go to the mall during our trip. He said it didn’t bother him but that was just an example and they are my friends so he’s confused why they would ask him and expected that they should know the answer… I just don’t understand why it bothered him so much..”-

    Seems to me, that what confused or puzzled him was that your friends had no idea why you wanted to go to the mall and they didn’t ask you why, they asked him.. which suggests a lack of CONNECTION between you and your friends (or.. not really friends..?).

    I spent a few hours on Nov 7 studying your previous threads. Maybe it’d be worth it to look into your own words in regard to connecting with people (I am upper casing the word connecting or connection):

    “I’ve always struggled with making friends and building strong CONNECTIONS with people (9/24/2019)… growing up I didn’t get much of the emotional connection and bond with my parents… Which makes sense I would then crave/depend a lot on my ex partner for the emotional support and CONNECTION but even then, it was not enough. (9/25/2019)… I’ve been spending a lot of time by myself, but still can’t help feeling depressed from lack of emotional intimacy or closeness with anyone, even with my family… I just don’t feel any emotional CONNECTION (July 11-12, 2020.

    Another related theme is you feeling MISUNDERSTOOD. You wrote yesterday (again, uppercasing): “He didn’t UNDERSTAND and kept saying that we were going to the same mall, and was defending my friends. I felt so triggered like he and my friends don’t even try to see things from my perspective, only theirs. I get called selfish by him and it feels like he is refusing to try to UNDERSTAND me… I did tell them briefly, but I felt they didn’t UNDERSTAND my concerns.”

    I did a little study just now on the above two themes in general (not at all in regard to anything you shared): “Disconnection breeds misunderstanding: When you feel cut off from others, you’re less likely to share openly. That lack of communication makes it harder for people to truly understand you.

    “Misunderstanding reinforces disconnection: If people misinterpret your words, emotions, or intentions, it can feel like they don’t “get” you. That experience often pushes you further away, deepening the sense of isolation.

    “Cycle of distance: Disconnection → less communication → more misunderstanding → stronger disconnection. It becomes a loop unless broken by empathy or clearer dialogue.

    “Psychological perspective- Belonging needs: Humans have a core need to belong. When misunderstood, that need feels unmet, which shows up as disconnection.

    “Identity and validation: Feeling understood validates your identity. Without it, you may feel invisible or alienated.

    “Emotional safety: Understanding creates safety. Misunderstanding can feel unsafe, leading to withdrawal and loneliness.

    “Feeling disconnected and feeling misunderstood are not separate — they feed into each other. Disconnection makes understanding harder, and misunderstanding makes disconnection deeper. Breaking the cycle usually requires open communication, empathy, and patience from both sides.

    “There are practical strategies to break the cycle between feeling disconnected and misunderstood, and to move toward deeper connection”.

    End of study.

    What do you think about the above, Ann? If it resonates, would you like to discuss practical strategies to move toward deeper connections with your friends and boyfriend?

    🤍 Anita

    #451857
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Ann

    I’m sorry to hear that they weren’t understanding about your concerns. That’s such a shame. ❤️

    I understand you! I believe similarly to you, feelings can just be feelings and there doesn’t need to be blame assigned to everything. It hurts having your feelings dismissed because people are stuck in their perspective instead of trying to be understanding. ❤️

    Ahh that’s understandable why the situation with your boyfriend is a trigger for you then. Things going very quickly and then being more pragmatic set off that old wound for you.

    It must have been very painful being in an off again and on again relationship and craving security. I’m so sorry about the difficulties with it. ❤️

    Have you talked to your boyfriend anymore since the difficult conversation? How are things now?

    It’s understandable to be sad because it is a painful situation for you. Please try to take extra care whilst things are difficult. You deserve kindness, understanding and sensitivity. ❤️

    #452870
    Thomas168
    Participant

    I know I am going to say something stupid so just take this with a huge rock of salt.
    There is a joke I heard where a woman is complaining to her therapist about her husband getting angry.
    She is afraid that her husband might explode. So, the therapist says that anytime he begins to get angry
    to put some water in her mouth and swish it around. Keep doing that until he calms down.
    After a week of doing this, she returns to the therapist and says that little trick is working.
    And ask how does swishing water in her mouth calms her husband down. The therapist says that if
    she doesn’t say anything then there isn’t anything for him to get upset about.

    Well, that might have nothing to do with your situation.
    But, if each person is making notes about what the other did wrong.
    This is no way to have a relationship. Making your feelings depend upon how the other reacts.
    It is a recipe for manipulations and calculations and just plain turmoil.
    And it won’t get better as each thinks about what the other has done.
    And then it begins to fester.

    I am sorry. I am not giving advice. I wouldn’t know what is the best way to go.
    Lately, I just ask myself what is important to me
    And then I live for that.

    #452875
    James123
    Participant

    Dear Ann,

    You don’t understand your boyfriend and your boyfriend doesn’t understand you.

    You are not a perfect match to him, he is not a perfect match to you.

    You are a very sensitive person, he is not.

    Just break up. Feel hurt couple weeks, then inevatibly you will forget.

    Peace.

    #452899
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Relationships aren’t about a perfect match. Relationships are hard work.
    But, the reward is having someone you love and loving you.
    Of course, there are those who should not stay a couple and there are those who will stay together forever.
    What is the deciding factors? I don’t know.
    That is dependent upon the couple.

    To give outright advice that a couple should break up??
    Makes me wonder whose shoulders one stand upon??

    #452912
    James123
    Participant

    Dear Thomas,

    Love is whatever happens still being with that person and supporting no matter what.

    However, in Ann situation this is not the case.

    Peace.

    #452918
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Dear James,

    So, love is whatever happens still being with that person and support no matter what?
    If that person is abusive then love is still being with that person? No matter what?
    Ridiculous. It matters … what.

    Love is when two people are caring and work together to maintain a relationship.

    Your advice is to split/break up.
    You know exactly what her situation is?
    Rather than having compassion and lending a ear.
    To listen and give an encouraging word.
    You give advice of which you have no idea what that would do??

    Where is your compassion? What wisdom do you hold?
    No matter if you speak the truth.
    It doesn’t give you the right to hurt others with blunt words.

    #452924
    James123
    Participant

    Dear Thomas,

    You are so funny 😊 what you are talking about contidional love. İf someone abuse you and you are still with that person that depends on your personality.

    What i mean is, loving in any difficulties, within falls and rises. Holding together hand to hand.

    But, in Ann situation her boyfriend doesn’t care. So, let her break up. 😊

    Encouraging for nice words? For what? Why should I tell the person for only in that moment to feel good, but will make endlessly suffer in future?

    Life is not a lollipop. And you are one of the person that can not handle the truth, life wise and spiritual wise.

    When you break up that you are free my brother.

    Peace.

    #452927
    Roberta
    Participant

    Hey Guys
    Ann’s last post was nearly a month ago. For whatever reason she is not engaging with us (Tiny Buddha Forum) so why, oh why do you two butt heads like rutting stags no matter what the thread?

    #452931
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Hey Roberta,

    Thanks. Needed someone to call me a butt head. LOL. Yeah, i know Ann hasn’t been back. And she probably found her answer already. I just like rattling James cage and see what shakes out. He talks like a wiseman but shows no compassion. Talks and talks then needs to clarify his answers. Then goes to insults like,

      “And you are one of the person that can not handle the truth, life wise and spiritual wise.”


    Oooh, strike me in my heart, … arrggh. I am hurt. I am going to cry my eyes out. LOL.

    Love is all conditional. What makes it love is the caring and the working together to maintain a relationship. It isn’t,

      “Love is whatever happens still being with that person and supporting no matter what.”

    That is wishful thinking. But what do I know after all I am just a person who can’t handle the truth, life wise and spiritual wise.

    Sorry, I am being difficult. I apologize for being difficult to get along with. But, I do promise to stay out of James threads.

    #452932
    Thomas168
    Participant

    Wisdom is not about just saying the truth. Wisdom is about handling a situation with compassion.
    So a kind word here or there isn’t about compounding a person’s suffering.
    It is about reaching the spirit of the person and bringing them love.
    To let them know that they are not alone. That there is someone who wants to help.
    Strength is not what you do when you have the power to hurt someone.
    It is about choosing to use that strength to help them instead.

    But what do I know, after all, according to James, I am just a person who can’t handle the truth, life wise and spiritual wise.
    Wow, how is that for wisdom and compassion??

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