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  • #55944
    Tinyzebra
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    I’ve really appreciated reading everyone’s experiences on here and also the advice people have given me. I feel a bit stuck at the moment in a bit of a rumination cycle, obsessing over my recent past.
    I recently came out of a six month “relationship” that wasn’t ever really defined as such, but felt like one to both of us. During these months I was anxious and upset the majority of the time, not because he was a bad person, but because he regularly told me he was too messed up for a long term thing. I gave it my best shot but after 6 months we had to end it as I wanted one thing and he couldn’t give me it (although he did still want me in his life).
    Anyway, that was only about 10 days ago so I know I am still grieving and dealing with this change in my life. Friends tell me I need to take care of myself and look after me now, and that my mind will feel better in time. My problem is I can’t stop crying and feeling like I miss him terribly, and I am not sure why. I feel like my mind is playing tricks on me, in that I am forgetting all the anxiety and just remembering the nice times, and the feeling of hope that things would one day change and we’d be more “together”. It’s as though I am missing not the real relationship I had with him (because that was problematic despite my feelings for him), but the thought of hope or possibility of it changing. I’ve lost hope, and lost happiness. I feel rejected, when in fact I wasn’t, or like I wasn’t good enough, when in fact it was a timing issue and I know he did care for me. These two different “approaches” to the past are competing constantly for priority in my mind. And I feel at a crossroads in how I view this past, and the impact it will have on me in the future. I hope that makes sense.
    And its really dragging me down, nothing seems quite as shiny or real now. I’m kind of going through the motions on a day to day and I’m scared about how long this will last. I don’t want him in my head in that way. I’m quite prone to thinking about the past a lot, far too much, to the point where I can’t enjoy the present or plan any future. I am being told by friends and family that there is so much to look forward to, and to think ahead, but I don’t FEEL it. I just keep playing over the last conversations we had, the last time we did x y or z etc. Its something I find incredibly difficult to stop. Is this maybe related to an inability to let go? Are there any techniques I can use to stop “cherry picking” the good memories and remember the realities? Otherwise I am scared this will be impossible to get over, and move on from, because I will have built it up in my head to be something it wasn’t and then I’ll never move on.

    Any tips or advice would be really appreciated..

    #55945
    Daniel Strait
    Participant

    I remember people telling me that “Everything always ends badly, otherwise it wouldn’t end.” I have to say that in my experience I found that that isn’t the truth. I’ve heard the saying “Some people are in your life for a day, season, or lifetime.” I’ve had a mix of all three. I’m sure that it’ll get better, but it’s the now we have to deal with. That isn’t always easy.
    Fortunately, throughout all of my experience I have had the comfort of writing it all down. How someone makes me feel, how a relationship ends, how I feel when I have to part ways. That way, when things tend to change in my head from how they actually were, I can compare notes with myself.
    The thing is, that everyone encounters people in our lives that we all learn from. There’s something in everyone that teaches us something about ourselves. The lessons that we learn from them is something that stays with us forever. We have to remember that they take with them what they learn from us as well. We have to respect that everyone is on their own path.
    Whether you want to call it a relationship or not, there’s always a level of emotion.
    The one thing I repeat to myself after surviving my last and greatest relationship is “You never stop loving somebody, you only learn to live without them.”
    Since you cannot love two people in the same way, it’s impossible to say that it gets easier with time. The only way to help stop thinking about it is to busy yourself. Explore you, write down your hobbies, those things that you’d like to do, and keep reading these blogs! Tiny Buddha really does help!

    Keep your head up, it will allow you to see in front of you when moving forward.
    Don’t hope to feel better or wish to get over something. Have faith in yourself that this too makes you better.

    #55990
    jag james
    Participant

    could it be said that it was your anxiety and non-acceptance of the situation that caused the split? and now you are realising what you have given up? The reason you may only be remembering the good things could show you how ‘un-real’ anxiety actually is in the reality of it all.

    you have time to yourself now and can work on re-setting yourself and looking at things from a far. Once settled can you try again and accept the situation? which will probably release some anxiety. Is being with him in a less than perfect way better than not being with him at all? Is giving it another 6 months to be in this situation again the worst thing that could happen?

    Did the relationship not match your perception’s of what made you feel secure and therefore you were reacting on the back of your vulnerabilities?

    You sound like you may have acted in a way that I am currently battling with, The relationship not having all that I perceive to need to make me feel secure! and I today I have decided it is living with my vulnerability that is the issue here. Accepting that and deciding to go with it and bear all actually feels liberating. Just some ‘food for thought’ here.

    #Peace

    #55996
    Tinyzebra
    Participant

    Thanks for your thoughtful replies. Daniel, I am like you in that I did write a lot during my relationship with him, so I can look back on that and remember that it was HARD. Too hard, too hard. I think you are right when you say I should not ‘wish’ to get over something. This is maybe just a process I have to go through. A process of saying goodbye to my hopes that things would change. It does help to know that things change in other people’s heads too! I really hope I feel better soon though, as this hurts a lot still.

    Jag James, thanks also for your perspective. Its an interesting one, and one which I’ve in fact been struggling with myself. I spent six months wondering the exact same things you seem to be battling too. I wrote in my journal, and I talked to friends, and I tried to take steps back and assess how much was ‘anxiety’ and how much was reality. I did that a lot. And that’s how I know in all honesty to myself, that my anxiety did not cause the ‘split’. I kept giving it ‘a few more weeks’ to see whether things would change, but it just didn’t. In my particular situation it was very hot/cold, push/pull- seeing each other very irregularly, great when we were together, then lots of emotional distance in between times. Never knowing where I stood. being told I was special, and a priority, and then no contact for days. And he told me directly he can’t even take baby steps towards a future with me, because he’s so broken he doesn’t believe in futures any more. So if I was to keep going, just to have in my life in a ‘less than perfect way’ my mental health would suffer, because I would develop feelings for him that he was TELLING me he couldn’t see himself reciprocating. So I did cause the split, but not because of anxiety or vulnerability, in fact because I was strong enough to see that what I wanted didn’t match what I was getting. I think we are all worthy of love and a relationship should make you a bigger person, not a smaller version of yourself, which is what I was becoming.

    But ….obviously part of me feels like having him around in any way is better than none. Its been two weeks now, and its still sore. Especially when I know I could just get in touch and have him around. But whether that is what I want, I think I need to take time to decide. I wish I found it easier to focus on a future, rather than obsessing constantly about my past.

    #56299
    Michael Smith
    Participant

    Hello

    Sounds like you’ve been going through something very similar to me so I’ll share what I’ve learnt/am learning still.

    As hard as we try to make the best of every relationship we can’t always do so. I to was in a 6 month ‘sort of relationship’ with someone who had been hurt before and wasn’t sure about committing. Eventually she did for a few months and said it was what she really wanted before changing her mind further down the line.

    The point is that I gave it everything and came out empty handed and it sounds like you’re almost doing the same, you miss him like crazy and you want to be with him.

    You’re remembering nice times because there are nice times and you did have a good time. Cherish those.

    As much as it hurts what you had is over and if someone isn’t ready to give more of themselves then you require then unfortunately it’s nothing that be fixed.

    You’ll be trying to show how great you are to make them change their minds. But we’re stubborn 🙂 and we can’t always get what we want as much as it pains the inner child in all of us.

    Be strong and just think that all of this happens for a reason – even if you can’t see it now you will be ok.

    #56317
    Tinyzebra
    Participant

    Thanks Michael, I really appreciate that. How are you getting on? I hope things are getting easier for you.

    3 weeks now for me. I haven’t made any contact, but I’m having to constantly stop myself. I just wake each day wishing upon wishing that today will be the day he will get in touch with me and tell me he’s made a mistake. ANd then I feel annoyed at myself for thinking that, and the whole thing begins again with chastising myself. I wonder whether this is common? If I could just be nicer to myself I’m sure this would be easier.

    Thanks for your kindness. I will try and stay strong. Part of that means having to remind myself of how difficult the relationship could be and how he wasn’t in reality what I wanted or needed, but I’m still struggling with the emotions of my attachment to him.

    TZ x

    #56321
    Big blue
    Participant

    Hi Tinyzebra,

    I really get this conversation – how hard it is to let go. For what it’s worth you are doing well hanging in there day by day. Eventually it will be easier. I’m two plus months out and getting to the point where I don’t want to do this anymore. Moving on becomes easier. Thank you for posting and also for Michael’s reply, which helps to get the perspectives of it all.

    Big blue

    #56325
    Kelly
    Participant

    Tinyzebra, I can relate so much! And let me tell you, I felt a surge of admiration for you when you noted that you deserve more than you were getting from this relationship. What strength you have! In my experience, what you are feeling is quite “common” as far as wishing he’d call and then beating yourself up for wishing that in the first place. I think it’s important to keep in mind the things that troubled you while you were in the relationship. And yes, it was a relationship, whether you officially defined it as such or not. While you don’t want to dwell on negativity, sometimes it helps to keep a realistic perspective instead of focusing on those happy moments you had with him. My relationship ended in December, though it was a very painful last year+ before that. For my birthday in April 2013, my partner gave me a journal. I was excited to have a forum to write my hopes, dreams, daily gratitude. To express my creativity. Instead, it turned into a 160 page catalog of all the pain, sorrow, anxiety, frustration and disappointment I experienced in that relationship. I had it right before my eyes, this relationship was ALL WRONG. Yet it’s taken me the last six months to feel even remotely “normal” where I’m not crying every day, obsessively checking my phone to see if he’s texted, hoping each email will be from him, etc. I, too, wanted that grand apology. But I think you get a pretty good sense of who a person is and how they operate in a relationship after the amount of time you spent with him. I don’t think people change that dramatically, at least not without tremendous work on their part. So even if he were to call and say he made a mistake, would you just be setting yourself up for more of the same if you went back?

    You may find this link helpful: http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/should-i-give-him-a-second-chance-or-a-3rd-4th-20th/ Everything on the Baggage Reclaim site is really great. Though I am trying to limit my time on there and even on this message board because while I think it’s good to commisserate and relate to have my feelings validated, I don’t want to miss out on the joy of life right before me while I spin my wheels in my head about my relationship and my ex.

    Hang in there. It DOES get easier, I promise.

    #56391
    Tinyzebra
    Participant

    Thanks Kelly. And I’m sorry for your hurt. I hope you are doing better. You sound strong. It really helps to know there are others out there going through all this too.
    Sometimes I do feel strong when I think of the fact that it was me that initiated the conversation and told him I wasn’t happy, but of course then when I feel lonely I think “why did I do that?” , “he’d still be here” etc. But the REALITY is he wasn’t really there/present. It was a hope that I had rather than a reality. So I just hope it gets easier as I keep moving forwards.

    One positive thing I think I’ve realised is that its much easier to just allow yourself to feel sad, than to beat yourself up about feeling sad, tell yourself that you should be feeling better by now, or by this date. To tell yourself that you are weak for having these feelings and fighting/railing against it constantly just makes it harder to deal with. I think this is something I’ve done to myself repeatedly all my life when I’ve felt sad, and this time I am genuinely allowing myself to just feel it and trying very hard to banish those self-chastising thoughts. Not very easy for me, but I am trying.

    #56397
    Kelly
    Participant

    Tinyzebra, I’m so happy you’ve come to realize that feeling your feelings is essential, and not rally against any that are unpleasant. I, too, have fell into that trap where I’d feel sad, then be mad at myself for feeling sad and do you think that made me feel any better? I suffered through my relationship when I would tell my partner a negative feeling I had about our relationship and instead of him allowing me to express myself, he would explain how my feeling was “wrong” because it was based on “inaccurate assumptions” or things like that. If I really understood how things were, I wouldn’t feel the way I did, was his perspective. It can be so defeating to have a loved one invalidate you like that. But I digress, the point is you are going to feel sad and that’s ok. There are a lot of articles on Tiny Buddha about feeling your bad feelings as a path to healing, but I found this one especially meaningful:
    http://tinybuddha.com/blog/why-letting-ourselves-feel-bad-is-the-key-to-feeling-better/

    #56474
    Michael Smith
    Participant

    @tinyzebra – it’s certainly common to think that way – I assume so at least as it’s what I’m doing as well 🙂

    You’re ahead of me in terms of where you are as you know you deserve more – I still don’t see the point and think she’s perfect for me.

    It can be very hard to deal with the loss of anything and this is certainly one of those things so don’t feel like you’re in the wrong for feeling sad – accept that it’s horrible and try and find other positives to spin whilst you heal

    #56547
    Tinyzebra
    Participant

    Wow, thanks @kelly and @michaelsmith for your wise words. I really needed them after this weekend. I had drafted a text message to send to him and I debated it ALL weekend, while crying, and in the end decided not to send it. I thought of all the times I’d initiated contact with him when we were together, and then about how it ended. I know he’s very depressed so I am worried about him but I realised that if he cared enough about me he’d contact me. And of course he hasn’t, which still hurts a lot. But thank you for affirming that its OK for me still to feel sad. Kelly I’m sorry that you were told your feelings were wrong. That is just simply awful. I’m glad you feel stronger now and while it hurts I’m sure this will be better for you in the long run. Because you will be validated and be able to express yourself, more fully, in the future. There is growth ahead!

    While I know I deserve more, it still hurts a lot to think that NOTHING is preventing this except bad timing and someone being in the wrong head space. I am so sad to be alone, again. At least he lives in another city so I won’t bump into him. But I kind of wish that would happen so he’d realise his mistake…..AND the cycle begins again….argh

    #56552
    MayraLuna
    Participant

    Hey Tinyzebra,

    Going through the same… very much the same… only we were together for about a year and a half. It was long distance at first, and things were wonderful when we would see each other, (about 2 weekends a month) and when I moved closer, (not necessarily to be with him, but for school..) things were good at first, but I realized since I was in a new city, I depended on him a lot, I was so vulnerable and homesick that I think it turned him off. He goes through bouts of darkness, as do I, but I think his is worse. I at least do what i can to work on myself, (meditate, write, etc)… and he holds it in and it creates a monster out of him at times. I never wanted to change him, he is a strong person, but when he goes through that darkness, no one can take him out of it, certainly not me. I had already accepted him, with all his faults and flaws, I know all too well that you can’t “change” anyone. But what I failed to realize, is all the “red flags” all throughout. Sometimes he would be more distant than other times. He would only want to see me when he was in a good mood. He would go through moments where he was very vulnerable and warm with me, and then all of a sudden he would turn ice cold and distant. At first I thought it was cause he’s a gemini (dumb, i know!) but then I realized, he’s just messed up,.. and not even I can do much to help him get out of that darkness. So now… it’s been 3 weeks since I decided that I needed to move on with my life. He has been distant with me, so I have been just as distant with him. He asked to see me but then changed his mind… (not sure what that’s all about.) But, I can’t afford my sanity to worry about him, when I really just be directing the energy towards myself. So… if I’ve learned anything these last three weeks it is,
    1) Open up to your friends. While they can’t tell you what to do, the reflection aspect of opening up allows you to hear your situation aloud and makes you see things for what they are.
    2) Do things that make you happy! (I have been taking dance classes and going out to dance & enjoying the music & arts scene in my city.)
    3) Write what you feel, but also write what you want for yourself! Be optimistic. This will pass. There is someone so wonderful out there for you that you just have to believe it and manifest it into your life.
    4) Practice gratitude. Yes, be grateful for your experience, it is teaching you many lessons. For me, it is teaching me that I am stronger than I thought, and that I do have great coping skills.
    5) Cry if you need to, but once you do, more forward.
    6) MEDITATE! It has been my SAVING GRACE!

    Okay. Keep your head up! I am going through the same right now… so far, no-contact has been the best option for me. Smile. Do you. Love yourself! You are enough!

    Best wishes!

    #57223
    Tinyzebra
    Participant

    Oh wow thanks everyone for their helpful comments. I love this community. @msmaedae I took your advice to write what I wanted for myself. And I love your comment about learning how strong you are and better at coping than you think. Thank you so much for that. (I write a lot, but it tends to be how I feel, and ruminating type stuff, all very negative- which helps to get it out, but tends to also keep me stuck). What I want is to be happy. First and foremost. And I want to be in a committed relationship, and I want to have a family. But most of all, I want to know I can cope with what life throws at me, and be OK INSIDE. And I think sadly this ending/breakup or “the relationship that never quite was” has pushed me to the side a bit and I’m finding it hard to garner my strength. But I am trying. Small steps and all that. Just need to find my way back to the path!!


    @guru
    and @kelly how are you doing? I’m still no contact, but almost broke it again last night. I still feel a bit like I’m putting rose tinted spectacles on how things were. I ask myself, did he treat me right? Did he make me feel like an awesome person? No. He made me feel anxious, on edge, never sure of his feelings and what he wanted. Then I was trapped in thinking about what HE wanted and I lost myself in that. ANd now I am thinking constantly about what he is thinking and if/when he might make the positive changes to himself that he needs to go through to feel “ready” for me. Its like I can’t let go of that small hope that while its not meant to be NOW, it might be meant to be LATER. THAT HE WILL COME BACK. Its helping me cope a bit, but its also keeping me stuck. Anyone else have that? I still feel like there’s a bit of a grey sheen over everything at the moment and I’m not very happy. I am still crying a lot and I’m still really, really sad. I keep telling myself I am enough but I don’t quite believe it…..

    #57224
    Michael Smith
    Participant

    Yes 100% 🙂

    Always thinking that she will change her mind and realise that this is stupid and we can be so good together…

    But I’m slowly starting to realise that it’s not going to happen so just keep being strong.

    You’ve got to hold that no contact – it’s almost like proving to yourself you don’t need to be talking to them.

    If they really were the perfect person you think they are then you would be together – it’s quite simple when you think about it.

    Just stay strong and try and remember that there are over 3.5 billion other men in the world and you’re spending all of your time thinking about just one of those

    🙂

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