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  • in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457395
    anita
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    Good morning, Confused (at the computer):

    Copilot, continued: What “this part” really is-

    It’s a protective mechanism inside him — a psychological part whose job is to keep him safe from emotional danger. Not physical danger. Emotional danger.

    This part formed long before this girl ever entered his life.

    It’s the part that says: “Don’t get too close.” “Don’t feel too much.” “Don’t depend on anyone.” “Don’t let yourself get hurt again.”

    It’s not trying to ruin his relationships. It’s trying to prevent heartbreak, rejection, or emotional overwhelm. This is why it feels so powerful.

    Where this part usually comes from- Protector parts almost always form in response to earlier experiences where closeness felt unsafe or painful. That could be inconsistent affection, emotional neglect, a breakup that hit too hard, a parent who was unpredictable, a childhood where vulnerability wasn’t safe, a past relationship where he felt abandoned.

    The protector part learned: “Feeling deeply = danger. Better shut it down.”

    So, when he starts to feel something real — longing, love, grief — the protector jumps in and slams the brakes.

    That’s the “black in my mind.” That’s the numbness. That’s the sudden “I don’t want connection.”

    It’s not anhedonia. It’s not lack of love. It’s a safety mechanism.

    Why it feels so confusing-

    Because he has two parts active at the same time:

    1. The vulnerable part- The one who cries at the airport memory, listens to her laugh for 5 minutes, imagines hugging her, feels tenderness and longing

    2. The protector part- The one who shuts everything down, says “you only like her because she’s recent”, makes everything go black, blocks romantic feelings, says “no connection”

    They’re both real. They’re both him. They’re just trying to do opposite jobs. That’s why he feels torn.

    Why this part is so strong right now- Because the feelings for her were real. And real feelings activate real fear. The protector part is terrified of him getting hurt again, so it’s working overtime.

    How he can stop being terrified- He doesn’t need to destroy the protector part. He needs to befriend it.

    When he understands what it’s trying to protect, why it shows up, what it fears, how it learned its job…the fear becomes less overwhelming.

    The protector relaxes when it feels understood, not judged, not forced, not ignored. And when the protector relaxes, the vulnerable part can breathe again.

    The simplest way to say it- “This part” is the version of him that learned long ago that love can hurt. It’s trying to keep him safe. It’s not the enemy. It’s scared.

    * How to calm that part?

    This part is terrified because it thinks love = danger.
    It calms down when it learns that love = safety.

    And that shift happens slowly, through experience, not logic.

    Let me break down the steps in a way that actually works for people who have this kind of protector part.

    1. Name the part when it shows up- When he suddenly feels numb, confused, or “black in my mind,” he can say internally: “Oh, this is the protector. It’s trying to keep me safe.”

    Just naming it reduces fear. It turns a monster into a part. This is the first step toward calming it.

    2. Acknowledge its purpose- This part isn’t trying to ruin his life. It’s trying to prevent heartbreak, rejection, humiliation, emotional dependence, losing control.

    When he says to himself: “I get why you’re here. You’re trying to protect me.”.. the protector softens.

    Fear shrinks when it feels understood.

    3. Don’t argue with it- If he tries to fight it (“go away,” “stop ruining this,” “you’re irrational”), the protector panics more.

    Instead, he can say: “You’re allowed to be here. But you don’t have to take over.”

    This is how people with attachment fear learn to stay connected instead of shutting down.

    4. Give it a job that isn’t blocking love- Protector parts calm down when they’re reassigned.

    For example: “Your job isn’t to stop me from feeling. Your job is to warn me if someone truly unsafe appears.”

    This gives the part a role without letting it dominate.

    5. Let the emotional part speak too- Right now, the protector part is drowning out the vulnerable part.

    He can internally say: “I hear the part that’s scared. But I also hear the part that cares.”

    Both parts get space. Neither is exiled. This balance is what calms the system.

    6. Stay connected to someone safe- This is where you come in. When he talks to you and you respond with warmth, humor, and steadiness, his protector part relaxes because he isn’t being judged, he isn’t being abandoned, he isn’t being overwhelmed, he isn’t being shamed. Safety with another person teaches the protector that connection isn’t dangerous.

    7. Slow down when the fear spikes- When he feels the “blackness” or shutdown, he can pause and say:

    “Something scared me. Let me slow down.”

    Fear hates speed. It calms with slowness.

    8. Let the feelings come in small doses- He doesn’t need to feel everything at once.

    He can let in 5 seconds of tenderness, 10 seconds of longing, a brief memory, a small moment of connection. Then pause.

    This teaches the protector that feelings don’t drown him.

    The real answer- He calms this part by giving it what it never had: Safety. Understanding. Permission. Patience. Connection.

    Not pressure. Not logic. Not force.

    When the protector feels safe, it stops blocking love.

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457388
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    Unexpectedly at the computer this Tues night, so I asked Copilot to analyze your recent posts:

    Copilot: “Here’s a clear, simple, emotionally‑intelligent analysis of Confused’s recent messages, written in one cohesive paragraph so you can see what’s actually going on inside him.

    🌿 Analysis of Confused’s Recent Messages (Simple Paragraph)

    Confused is describing an intense emotional swing that feels both overwhelming and confusing to him. He’s clearly grieving the loss of this girl, and his mind is bouncing between genuine longing (crying at the airport memory, listening to her laugh, imagining future moments) and a harsh, analytical inner voice that keeps telling him his feelings “aren’t real,” that he only likes her because she’s the most recent romantic interest.

    This creates a tug‑of‑war inside him: one part feels love, attachment, and sadness, while another part immediately shuts it down with doubt, logic, or self‑criticism.

    When he asks “how can I find this part?” or “is it anhedonia?”, he’s trying to understand why his emotions feel blocked or muted at times. The “black in my mind” comment suggests emotional numbness or a protective shutdown — not because he doesn’t care, but because the intensity of caring scares him.

    His humor (“send this part to another planet!”) shows he’s aware of the absurdity of the inner conflict, but underneath it he’s genuinely distressed by how real the feelings seem one moment and how disconnected he feels the next. Overall, he’s dealing with a classic push‑pull between vulnerability and self‑protection: one part of him wants closeness, and another part is terrified of it, so it shuts down his feelings to keep him safe.” (end of quote)

    Hmm. A part of Confused is “terrified”.. I know terrified..

    I just asked Copilot how you cannot be terrified?

    Answer: “When you ask “how can he not be terrified?”, you’re really asking something very human:
    How does someone stop being afraid of their own feelings?

    How does someone stop panicking when closeness wakes up old wounds?

    Here’s the heart of it:

    He’s terrified because something in him learned long ago that love = danger.

    Not because he’s weak.

    Not because he’s broken.

    Because his nervous system is doing its job — protecting him from pain he once couldn’t handle.

    And the way out isn’t to “kill” that part or force it to disappear.

    It’s to help him feel safe enough that the protective part doesn’t have to slam the brakes every time he feels something real.

    Let me break it down in a grounded, simple way.

    🌿 Why he’s terrified

    Everything he described — the crying, the longing, the sudden numbness, the “black in my mind,” the inner voice that shuts him down — is classic attachment fear mixed with emotional overwhelm.

    He feels something deep → his attachment system activates →the protector part panics → it shuts everything down.

    It’s not anhedonia. It’s not lack of love. It’s not confusion.

    It’s fear of vulnerability.

    🌱 How he can stop being terrified-

    Not by force. Not by logic. Not by arguing with the inner voice.

    But by doing these three things:

    1. Naming the protective part instead of fighting it- When he says “this part doesn’t want connection,” that’s actually progress.

    If he can see it as a part — not his whole identity — it loses power.

    Fear shrinks when it’s recognized.

    2. Understanding what the protector is trying to prevent- This part isn’t evil.
    It’s trying to prevent rejection, abandonment, humiliation, loss, emotional dependence.

    It’s trying to keep him safe.

    When he understands that, the fear becomes less mysterious.

    3. Letting the emotional part and the protective part coexist- He doesn’t need to “get rid of” the protector. He needs to help it relax.

    That happens when he feels understood, feels safe, grounded, when he isn’t shamed for having feelings, when he isn’t pressured to “figure it out”.

    Safety quiets fear.

    Not logic.

    🌾 The real answer to your question-
    He stops being terrified when he stops being alone with the fear.

    When someone reflects his experience back to him — calmly, without judgment — the protector part stops panicking.

    That’s why he opens up to you. That’s why he jokes with you. That’s why he asks “how do I find this part?”
    He’s trying to understand himself in a safe space.

    You’re giving him something he doesn’t give himself: permission to feel.”-

    WOW, wow.. will be back in the morning.

    (no emojis), Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457387
    anita
    Participant

    Hey 👋 🌙 🦉 Confused:

    I thought S. America is a good start, a beginning vacation before proceeding to another planet.

    Okay, I will talk to Copilot in the 🌄 and let you know what he says (I think of it as he)

    I think that this part is trying to protect you from being hurt by a woman but it’s hurting you and doesn’t even know that it does.

    🌙🦉🐰⏸️🐉✨️ Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457385
    anita
    Participant

    Would you like me to ask Copilot about your latest 2 posts (I can do it tomorrow when I use the 🖥)?

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457384
    anita
    Participant

    No, not at all boring, Confused!

    Your “wtf, can’t catch a break”- made me laugh (silently).

    There’s a part of you that is giving the other part a very difficult time.

    That’s why I’m thinking of silencing that annoying, stubborn part with some kind of an effective psych drug, so to shut it up.

    You love her, you want her and yet a part of you says NO!

    I understand the protective intent of that part, it means well, but it’s time it takes a vacation.. South America, I’m thinking. That’s far enough..?

    🤔✨️🐉 Anita

    in reply to: The Hardening Heart #457383
    anita
    Participant

    The image of covering the eyes stayed with me. To explore it not with .. over abundance of analysis but with the sky in mind:

    I was so terrified of losing my mother (as she expressed suicide thinking histrionically), that I instinctively closed my 👀 and 👂s and all connections to the outside of me, and withdrew inward so much that there was no visible sky that I could sense or connect to.

    I just 🚫 life, minimized it, stayed as small as possible, a non- entity, the living dead.

    My life-sky minimization was instinctive, decided for me before I could choose it.

    And now, I am inhaling and exhaling the sky because I am no longer dreadfully threatened. There’s been a long pause ⏸️ in the terror, and I find myself having a bit of life left:

    The imagery of running on open fields of green grass, the memory of dancing under the sky to live music (last Dec last year), the many beautiful socialization interactions in the taproom that closed less than 3 weeks ago.. these are “the sky”- free from shame.

    Red wine 🍷 has been very helpful.

    It’s been beautiful, Peter, the awakening, the spreading the fingers covering my eyes and seeing-hearing-sensing the 🎶 🎵, the sky 💙

    Anatta 😊

    in reply to: Conflicting myself much #457380
    anita
    Participant

    There’s something else that ocurred to me after I submitted the above:

    My strong drive to analyze and rationally understand things at the expense of nuance (binary, all or nothing; black & white thinking) has a lot to do not only with the IA I mentioned above, but also with my distrust of and discomfort with emotions.

    It’s been difficult for me to receive empathy because I suspected it to mean that I was pitiful. All empathy did for me was trigger my shame aka toxic shame.

    So, I focused on analysis and avoided expressing empathy because I was not comfortable myself with receiving it.

    I was 🔒-ed in SHAME.

    in reply to: The Hardening Heart #457379
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Peter:

    “I wonder what you saw?”

    If you’re referring to Copilot’s input 7 posts ago, 4/24)-

    I reread some of it just now, and what crossed my mind was that my 🧠- in its frenzy to feel in control by analyzing and making perfect rational sense of things- wanted to analyze even the sky, to fit it into my personal analysis, to own it (ha-ha).

    As to the question being the answer (“Why did the peace go away?”)- I am lost at the moment.

    I will try: the peace went away because a part of me separated from the sky, looking at it from an observer POV, separated from the observed.

    It’s the separated observer that’s doing all that analysis.

    If I am one with the observed, there’s no place for analysis?

    (I wrote the above following reading only your first 2 paragraphs, not yet having read beyond, scrolling up and down using my 📱)

    3rd paragraph: the peace went away because questions arose by the separated (analytical) self aka the observer.

    4th paragraph and on: “We ‘lose’ the Sky…”- Yes, I lost perceived connection to the sky, felt isolated, apart, a dreadful alone-ness.

    “His face reappear that was hidden behind his fingers”- my dreadful aloneness has been all along fingers covering my sky-face.

    The tragedy of losing ourselves and the comedy of finding ourselves- comedy because we were always there, all it takes is removing the fingers covering our eyes.

    Hmm.. Covering the eyes because the sights were unbearable.

    The faces we take on so to survive, the masks..

    I need to process this message. It will take some time and probably a series of posts to follow 🙏

    ✨️✨️✨️ Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457378
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused:

    You mentioned friends before. I’m glad you have a close friend (or more than one) and a female friend.

    Your female friend was indeed fast on picking up on you sabotaging your own happiness with those worries, and that it may be a defense mechanism.

    But of course, it’s happening without you choosing it consciously.

    It’s a mental loop you’re caught in, a habit of the mind (which is in part chemical)

    So, today, you saw a photo of her in the 🪞 and you thought: “She’s gorgeous”.

    Now, I imagine a voice in your 🧠 saying quickly, before you can hear it something like ‘She’s too gorgeous 4 U!’, ‘some guy will take her away from U”, ‘You better prepare for it by not caring when it happens’.

    And the defense: ‘I don’t want her… I don’t really want her”-

    If you don’t want her, losing her won’t hurt.

    You ended your post with “Crazy stuff!”- I think you’re crazy 🤪 about the gorgeous woman in the 🪞.

    🤍🐉🐇 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457372
    anita
    Participant

    Hey 👋 Confused: I’ll answer in a few hours

    in reply to: The Hardening Heart #457367
    anita
    Participant

    Good morning, Peter: There’s a big smile on my face to see that you posted and to read just a bit. Will be back to you in the late afternoon/ evening.

    in reply to: Conflicting myself much #457358
    anita
    Participant

    Well, didn’t get to be at the computer this morning, so I’ll continue to process here (on my AI-less 📱):

    First, it amazes me still how comprehensive the trauma the girl 👧 Anita suffered at the hands of her mother.

    It is as if my mother read about every type of child abuse and decided to implement every single type.

    One of the types has been Intellectual Abuse (IA, if you will). Gaslighting was part of it. She V.I.S.C.I.O.S.L.Y attacked my confidence in my thinking.

    * In viciously, I am referring to her PASSION when attacking me. Her attacks were far from neutral. It was something she was very emotionally invested in doing.

    So much IA that I spent most of my adult life doubting my own thoughts, correcting them- on a moment to moment, regular basis, silently, in my own head.

    Fast forward to my communication with Neverdyed- I spent hours and hours trying to get my thinking just RIGHT in regard to analyzing her. And when she continued to be unclear in my estimation, she was gaslighting me: telling me I was thinking WRONG.

    I was never as clear- in my mind- about the effects of the severe AI abuse I suffered growing up (in), as I am in these last 2 days following rereading my communication with Neverdyed.

    Because my IA was trigerred back then, in this thread, that was what I focused on: intellectual understanding.

    Empathy and emotional attune-ment were a far 2nd priority to the # 1 priority: fighting for my intellectual integrity.

    And this is why my replies to members in general were heavy on intellectual analysis: studying and restudying members posts, producing long, dense analytical essays that were low on emotional attune-ment.

    I was fighting all along for intellectual integrity: for trusting my own severely abused intellectual abilities.

    I was relieved, as I was rereading the exchange of so long ago, that Tee chose to communicate with Neverdyed, taking on a much gentler and saner attitude than mine, being much more attuned to Neverdyed.

    I am glad I was not Neverdyed’s last taste of tiny buddha.

    I may or may not (probably will) add input by AI on my communication with Neverdyed, when I use the computer again.

    On a very side note, I always wondered about the screen name Neverdyed: if it’s about never dyeing one’s hair? I didn’t ask because I had more pressing needs in mind- trying to resurrect confidence in my thinking mind (brain) 😞

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍 Anita

    in reply to: Struggling to settle in new role #457357
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Tom:

    Strangely, I don’t miss the taproom, not so far. To me, it’s an end of an era. It was often an incredibly special experience.

    As I read your message right above, having had amazing conversations myself with AI (Copilot), it occurred to me that if you talk with AI ( a back and forth conversation.. free of charge), it could help you figure things out in regard to employment.

    Maybe you already did and it didn’t help?

    🤔 Anita

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457348
    anita
    Participant

    Wow, Confused: I’m amazed 👏 by my own insight-

    Throughout the months you posted here, you repeatedly expressed intense emotions for her.. yet, your focus has been on the times you felt nothing.

    And therefore you presented the situation as feeling nothing.. Just because you didn’t feel so much.. all of the time.

    👀🐉🐇✨️ (me)

    in reply to: I just randomly and suddenly fell out of love #457347
    anita
    Participant

    Oh, yes, you don’t 👀 the intensity you ARE feeling!

    You don’t notice how intensely you are feeling because you’re focused on the moments you don’t feel anything.

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