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ParticipantDear antarkala: thank you. I’ll do my best to help tomorrow morning!
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ParticipantDear SadSoul: “a sneaky phone moment“- sounds naughty. Reply whenever you are willing and able, no rush!
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
Your answers are honest and thorough.
This sentence: “one of my teachers telling me my walk is too manly“- personally strikes a chord with me. I am mentioning it here because want to elaborate on it tomorrow, Thurs morning (it is Wed afternoon here). Be back to you in the morning!
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She was so nice to others, and so angry at me. I can still feel the envy burning within me, wanting what they had that I didn’t have: her niceness, her being oh, so very nice. Her softness, her approval, her praise, her efforts to please: they had it. To her, other people mattered, I didn’t. All the many hours I watched her trying so hard to please others, to flatter them, being oh, so kind.
I wanted what they had, her (what appeared to be) love. In their presence, it appeared to be love, outside their presence, she complained to me about them. But what did I know: it appeared like love and I WANTED THAT.
The gap between her words to others (you are the BEST), and her words to me (you are the WORST).
Oh, why mother, why, why couldn’t you, wouldn’t you love me, ME, why not ME?
The rage, the envy.
LOOK AT ME, do you see anything at all that.. you’d be okay with liking, loving.. something, anything?
I remembered only recently, a couple of years ago, maybe, that she looked at me intently (only me and her there, in the small living room), she looked at me, then she let go of a few shaming words, really intensely shaming words, planned for best (worst) impact. She said those words and then she paused, waiting for the effect to take hold in me, waiting to see me hurt, ashamed.. waiting, and then, I saw that mild smile on her face, as in mission accomplished, a successful hit. The shame must have shown on my face.
That was when I was a teenager. Fast forward more than 30 years, the last time I saw her, she looked at me across the same small living room, there were other people there, guests, she looked at me with hate, a wanting to see me hurt, but not having the opportunity (being that there were guests there) to make me hurt. Oh, how deprived she was, my poor mother.
I am not being cynical (or sarcastic, whatever the word is) in typing what I just typed above: part of me feels sorry for her for not being able to express what she felt, having to hold it in.
To love someone who hates you…
I wouldn’t be able to type all this if it wasn’t for the red wine I just consumed.. I must confess.
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ParticipantDear SadSoul:
I wrote: “to feel safe in their pure, no-strings-attached embrace (ahh.. how does it feel?)”, and you responded: “I don’t really know how that feels… It’s an emotion that generally is in a person because they were bonded with their mother figure (that could be a male also) when a baby or small child. Can’t really go back, can we?“- the problem, as I see it, is that we, those of us not knowing how it feels (I’ll speak for myself here): it’s not that I moved forward and can’t go back, it’s that the biggest part of me is back there, back there and then, waiting for that embrace, so that I can move forward.
I am moving forward these days, and this is the purpose of my thread.
“You could take up an extreme and life threatening sport to fill in the anxiety gaps lolll!“- I bet that this is what those involved in such sports are getting out of it. Watching scary movies served me this way, for years. Don’t do that anymore.
“Don’t ever worry about me being angry. I don’t get angry very often. It’s an emotion I haven’t been able to feel… Not being allowed to protect myself from the parentals / relatives / etc. while growing up might be why I don’t feel that emotion… I also watched every single season of Pretty Little Liars. I hated it so much. It made me angry“- I was punished by my mother for my anger at her, but I felt it nonetheless, intensely, regularly, I looked at her with anger (as a teenager), wanting her to see it. It was the only strength I had, to look at her angrily.
“In time I think you’ll move past being afraid, just have to spend time experiencing, and your fears will fade as time proves you don’t need to protect yourself“- amen.
“No laughs since but have felt like there is a ray of sunshine in most days. So much improve on where I was at a month ago. Have you laughed? Or smiled?“- a bit, earlier today, and now that I remember it, when I made a choice that was more intelligent than I was able to make before.
“I think it helps to have some kind of contact with people. To share our experiences gives a feeling of understanding. It creates value in us? It does for me anyway“- yes. Yesterday, on my walk, there were a few vehicles passing the private roads where I walk, and the custom is to wave at each other: the driver waves at me, I wave at the driver. As that happened, I was aware of a feeling of elation, and it occurred to me right there and there, that it must be what dogs feel when they greet each other, wagging their tails.
“I’ll go and imagine your day filled with walking down coyote strewn by-ways, boldly frightening bears back to their porridge, taking your basket of cake to grandma! No wolfie will trick you into picking flowers!“- haha. Unfortunately, I heard reports that WOLVES are roaming around the area, didn’t hear them yet, but the thought of being confronted by wolves is.. well, it’d require more than bear spray!
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
This morning, I will be re-reading all your posts and commenting as I go along, keeping in mind what you shared later, as I comment on what you shared earlier:
“I am a 25-year-old in a serious relationship for around 1 and a half years. My boyfriend is a year older than me and we have been friends for 3 years before we got into the relationship. Both of us moved abroad for our Master’s and decided to take our friendship to the next level since we had similar life goals, values, and interests“- reads like an intelligent, mature attitude and practice on your part: getting into a relationship with a man you’ve known for three years as friends, finding out his goals, values and interests, and seeing that there is a match in these.
There is love and he is independent, kind, career-driven, supportive, puts in the effort, and he is a wonderful person: “We love each other very much and are independent, kind, career-driven… he is not stopping me from being myself and he in fact supports me.. He puts in that effort and tries to talk to all of my friends… he has a wonderful personality… he is a wonderful person all in all“.
“Coming to the issue, though we have been in a relationship for more than a year, I always felt something was missing since the beginning“- to thoroughly understand what is missing in the relationship, you have to first understand what is missing within you.. something missing that you brought into the relationship. Understanding the latter, will give you an accurate understanding of the former.
It will not be easy to explore that which is missing-within because strong emotions are involved. If you see the need for such exploration and are willing to do so, to some extent, here on your thread, please do and read what’s next in my post:
“I have always been a misfit. Cannot point out one reason but I have had my share of experiences in life – I experienced sexual assault as a kid through years which I think wired me differently, my younger brother was a pampered kid majorly because he is a boy and I am a girl, I don’t think I got enough validation from my dad… My mom says I am too sensitive and hints that maybe I am overreacting – sometimes I wonder if I am just too weak and use my trauma as an excuse... my mom was anxious and worried quite often… I remember my mom telling me many times that she lived in fear, and never had the courage to speak up and voice her concerns or opinions out… if my mom spoke out in a social situation, my dad always used to criticize her after coming back home… whatever my mom says, my dad will criticize her… Imagine my mom living with that for 26 years!“-
– I selectively boldfaced the above because I will be asking you questions, in this post, only about the boldfaced, as part of the exploration I mentioned above. Of course, you don’t have to answer any of my questions, and those you choose to answer, you are welcome to answer only to the extent you are comfortable with. (I will not be asking you questions that in my mind are too distressing to answer):
1) How long did the sexual assault period last, and how long after the beginning of the assault, did your parents become aware of it? How did they respond?
2) Did your mother (or your father) minimize the assault, saying that you were over-sensitive to it, that you emotionally over-reacted, that you used it as an excuse?
3) You lived at home, with your mother, for 24 out of the 26 years of her marriage to a man who discouraged her from speaking up, from talking about her feelings, her opinions, etc. Did she turn to you as the person with whom she expressed herself, giving you the role of a friend and confidant?
4) How were you a misfit at home, growing up?
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ParticipantHow are you, Arctic07?
Dear YOR:
You are welcome!
I just re-read your first post and I was wondering in regard to what you shared here: “I was always told that I get angry and I am short tempered… Maybe if I kept my mouth shut instead of expressing how I felt, we would have been together“- do you mean that during the relationship with him, you were repeatedly angry and short tempered with him (although you loved him).. maybe raising your voice at him, shaming him with words, perhaps?
I ask, not because I have reason to believe so (you appear kind and empathetic in your writing), but just so to address this possibility for a better understanding on my part. I hope that you are okay with me addressing this possibility.
Back to your 2nd post: “He did not like my friends so I had to create distance between my friends… He has a lot of friends“- I wonder, what did he dislike about your friends, and what kinds of friends does he have, what’s the nature of their friendships (if you know)?
“It is difficult to imagine life without him because he is all that I had… I have not slept properly since the day we separated… I feel like saving our relationship in some way. I clearly know that he is not interested in me, and still, I think about him and us. I know this is extremely insane and stupid on my part“- it’s not stupid on your part, there is a saying: the heart wants what the heart wants, and there is no reasoning when it comes to a deep, intense longing for another person.
Please aim at resuming your pre-breakup sleep quality, there are practices that can help, such as listening to calming guided meditations at bedtime. Sleeping better will help your state of mind and heart.
“Also, he recently texted my mother to let me know that I shall quickly remove my stuff from his apartment… I am having a tough time to collect it… I am wondering if I shall contact him once regarding my things at his apartment, but I am scared that it will affect me mentally and emotionally a lot.“- what about him mailing the stuff to you, or dropping it at your place when you are at work, so that there is no personal contact?
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
It occurred to me, this one point, so i thought I’d let you know what it is before replying at more length tomorrow:
“he will never be satisfied.. Whatever I did or spoke – my dad would tell me I did something wrong”- this means that he is not likely to approve of your choice of a husband, whomever the man, and if you wait for his approval.. well, it is not a good idea to expect his approval, to wait for it.
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
I read your recent post but being that it’s late (Tues) afternoon here and I am not as focused as I need to be, I would like to re-read and reply Wed morning. Please feel free to add anything you’d like to add so to lead me to better understanding. I will say tis one thing now: I am sure that you are not (!) using your trauma as an excuse!
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
You are welcome. “When I feel jealous, I tell myself I don’t deserve to be a friend. How do I approach this?“- (1) tell yourself the truth: that what we people feel is not our choice; it is only our vocalized words and actions taken that are subject to our choosing.
No choice (such as in feeling jealous)= no personal responsibility (no valid guilt).
(2) apply an empathetic attitude toward yourself. Imagine a little child who was jealous of other children, would you frown at the child and berate him/ her for feeling jealous, or would you gently ask the child what is bothering her, what’s behind the jealousy? If you uncover what’s underneath your jealousy, you’ll find some old hurt: it’d be easier for you to feel empathy for yourself for hurting (underneath the jealousy) than for the jealousy itself.
“I want to understand where my social anxiety is coming from and how to overcome it“- the first society in a person’s life is the family one is born into. If a child was anxious in the context of that first, mini society, the child is likely to grow up to be anxious in the bigger society. For example, a child may have gentle, fair and loving parents, but if the parents are often anxious, worried about things, and the child notices it.. their anxiety naturally passes on to the child.
“I understand how what my mom told me influenced me… She told me, I just moved to a new country and I am taking this – decision in a mentally weak state, out of loneliness in the new country“- your mother had a good point there, a valid concern. From what you shared about your boyfriend though, he reads like a gentle.. non-dangerous guy at all, so you were not in danger with him.
“No, my parents do not present themselves as perfect“- good job on their part!
“I believe a marriage is not just about wife and husband but also about both families. I also keep thinking, if I marry my boyfriend, how compatible are our families? My parents are getting older as well and they need company, we don’t have close ties with relatives and I want the family I marry into to bond well with mine. – Is it too much to ask?“- no, it’s not too much to ask, and it’s in your rights to ask for this. Therefore, before you consider marrying a man, get to know his feelings about both families being part of the marriage, and if the two of you have a meeting of the minds, get the families together so that everyone can get to know each other.
Till next time we talk, take good care of yourself!
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ParticipantDear Stacy:
* Health anxiety disclaimer and warning!
How sensitive and considerate of you to put a health disclaimer and warning at the beginning of your post!
“The sinus infection I had in January ended up lasting over two and a half months, and two different antibiotics didn’t help or clear it… it triggered my health anxiety a lot and made me feel helpless if I were to come down with something much more severe that would call for antibiotics again“- I suppose a health anxiety disclaimer would be more exact than health disclaimer (at the beginning of your yesterday’s post.. coming to think about it, I’ll put one at the beginning of this post). For a person suffering from health anxiety, reading about other people’s health problems and symptoms can easily trigger anxiety and new worries.
Physical health problems and health anxiety fuel each other: the more physical health problems, the more health anxiety; the more anxiety, the higher the likelihood for physical health problems.
“The new (ENT, a surgical specialist for conditions of the head and neck) was nice and advised I get a needle biopsy of my swollen lymph nodes, so I’m doing that this Friday. I’ve been anxious about that… (plus) my thyroid levels were out of whack, and my cholesterol was high. Today my pap results came back and they found abnormal squamous cells, and even worse, HPV. I immediately fell apart and had to go to my car and cry over…
“Not only that, but my sister was just recently sued by a credit card company from an over 10 year old debt… and the house has been extremely tense. And on top of it all, I’ve just been trying to continue juggling both jobs as before, but now working about 50 hours a week… I hope you have been doing well since my absence!“-
– it’s amazing how you continue to be considerate and kind, generally, and in regard to your recent post, at the beginning and at the end of it, even though you are so busy and experience so much anxiety/ stress. We talked about how stressful life for you is at home, with your family- way before the recent credit card problem. I can’t think of something that you need more than living in calm circumstances, and on a regular basis. Ongoing anxiety and stress mess with physical health.
If you lived in a calm place, the old anxiety would still be going on, but you’d have a chance to work on it and lessen it with new practices. I am almost sure I mentioned it to you before, but the practice of Tai-Chi ca do wonders to slow down that unhealthy rush aka fight-or-flight experience inherent in anxiety.
I am doing better, started my own thread on Anxiety and it helps me. I hope that your Friday medical appointment goes well, and that your health and health anxiety improve!
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ParticipantDear Going Through Life:
You are very welcome!
My sentence (“But these feelings were not as strong throughout the 3 months..”) explained: feelings don’t stay the same, they change every day, so, let’s say you catch her at 12 pm, she’s busy, otherwise occupied, and she sounds like she doesn’t have any feelings for you; you catch her at 6 pm, she is not busy, had a hot shower, listening to romantic music ..and she thinks of you romantically. Feelings change over the course of weeks and months as well.
“I need to first clear in mind if I want her as a friend right now given the long distance or ask her if we can reconnect romantically. Whenever I have the answer clear. Ill surely text her“- good plan!
“I agree with this approach and at this point I got nothing to lose but I don’t want to come off as desperate, so I am just trying to frame the right message which conveys what I feel in my mind and heart. Not good at writing or expressing my feelings, lol“- you can put together a first draft for a message, here on your thread, and I’ll be glad to give you editing suggestions.
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ParticipantDear antarkala:
You are very welcome and thank you for your appreciation!
“I also want to mention honestly that, these days I feel jealous of my extrovert friends and I hate that I do. I love them and I want to see them happy. The fact that I’m feeling jealous is killing me – why do you think I am feeling this way?“- I figure, because you wish that you had it as easy as they seem to have it, wishing that socializing was as easy for you as it is (or appears to be) for them. Anxiety in general, and social anxiety in particular, rains on one’s parade, so to speak.
“I did tell my mother about my boyfriend and she told me he is not good enough for you and I know it unconsciously influenced me…. I lived till 24 with my parents and I am very attached to them, I trusted they always will do the best for me… I don’t know what truth to believe in and how to take a decision. It is making me very indecisive and anxious“-
– she shouldn’t have said it. I suppose she has very high expectations of you and for you, wanting the very best for you. Problem is that the very best for you is to have confidence in your ability to make good choices for yourself. By telling you that he’s not good-enough for you, she’s giving you the message that you are not making a good choice.. and that leads you to feel very indecisive and anxious.
Parents are often not aware of how they come across, and how they negatively affect their children while wanting the best for them.
“I have become aware of this recently and this makes my decision making even harder – what do I trust now, who do I trust now?“- just like I suggested that you take your boyfriend off the pedestal, I am suggesting that you do the same in regard to your parents. It doesn’t mean that you stop loving them, of course. It’s just that you need to do this so to trust yourself to make good choices, to evaluate people correctly, to socialize well, etc., to believe that you are a competent, able adult, no longer a child dependent on her parents for guidance.
Part of taking them off the pedestal is to see that they have made the wrong choices themselves, that they make mistakes too. No one always makes good decisions, no one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes. Don’t expect perfection from anyone, not from your parents, not from your boyfriend, and not from yourself.
I hope that your parents do not generally present themselves as perfect, and never admit that they were wrong, or that they make mistakes (that can make taking them off the pedestal more difficult than otherwise).
“How do you think I should approach this situation. My boyfriend is a wonderful man, I don’t want to weaken him by showing my disappointment but at the same time, the reality that I expect my partner to help me out in social situation doesn’t change – how can I talk about this with him in a healthy way?“-
– first, do not express to him that you are disappointed in his social functioning, that will achieve the opposite of what you want to achieve: he will be less capable, not more. Secondly, identify a very specific, practical way in which you want him to help you, something that’s doable for him, instead of asking for help in a vague way. An example (and this is just an example), instead of saying: I would like you to help me feel more comfortable in the party tonight, say: when I am standing in a group with people at the party, can you stand by my side and hold my hand?
I hope to continue to communicate with you, for as long as you find it helpful.
anita
March 26, 2024 at 10:27 am in reply to: Should a “Cheating” Girlfriend be forgiven over a technicality? #430177anita
ParticipantDear Paradoxy:
You are welcome, and thank you for expressing your appreciation for my advice. Wow, what can I add to Tee’s brilliant analysis submitted about 6 hours ago, written so well. I am in awe!
You wrote in your most recent post: “They never let me have a childhood, always forcing me to ‘act like an adult’.. I am back to my hollow self, desperately trying to glue the broken pieces of my empty shell… I have just accepted death“-
– it is very clear to me that what makes your self hollow and empty (“hollow self”, “empty shell”, your words right above), is the absence of Godwin the child. Your parents forced you to act like an adult, they never let you have a childhood (your words right above).
What are the words a young child often says as he/ she just starts to talk: I want this, I want that.. But Godwin the child was not allowed to want this, or that.
On March 23, you wrote in regard to your parents: “Always discouraging me from what I wanted to do. Even this med career was their fault. I never wanted this“- Godwin-the child not allowed to do what he wanted to do, not then, not now.
On March 24, you wrote this about your parents: “they always forced their way on me“- If your parents always forced their way on you, it means that Godwin the boy never got his way. I want this, I want that was met with, no, no, no, we want, and only what we want matters!
The same day, you wrote about your father: “He always wanted me to think like older people despite being still a child, and that made me never get any chance to enjoy my childhood“.
Children need to be taught to become responsible adults over time, gradually, but seems like your parents took a short cut and wanted you to be an adult immediately, instantly, way too early.
What you need then is the resurrection of Godwin-the-child, to fill your life with what Godwin wants.. not irresponsibly, but still: what you want needs to matter in your own life, it is your life (or should be), not your parents’.
Paradoxy, often enough you let me know that I misunderstand you, that I misunderstood your words. Sometimes it is true, but at other times, you don’t like my correct understanding, so you retroactively change what you said, giving what you said before a new context, new qualifications.. so to reject my understanding. Please don’t do this in regard to this post.
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ParticipantDear Stacy:
I didn’t read all, but I too was diagnosed with HPV, and nothing came out of it, nothing at all. I was also diagnosed with a big tumor by my ovary (about 3 years ago), I thought I was dying, but turned out to be benign fibroids that exited the uterus and landed by an ovary (the pleasure of being a female, lol), so nothing came out of it, other than a thousand dollars+ bill. I will read and reply further in the morning (Mon night here), good night/ morning, Stacy, and so good reading from you again!
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