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August 16, 2025 at 9:15 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448659
anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
“He was cold as stone and had an attitude of being offended… I feel like a Villain”- He was offended—or he pretended to be offended—but you didn’t offend him.
If he learned earlier that you easily take on guilt that doesn’t belong to you, he may be using it to control you. In a relationship with a man like this, all he has to do to keep you in line is appear offended, and you automatically feel guilty and try to appease him.
“I told him that we will not meet again. It was my first reaction to his lack of understanding, empathy and coldness.”- What happened first is that he was cold and refused to help you when you were lost and scared. What happened next is that you told him you wouldn’t meet again.
It wasn’t the other way around: that you told him you wouldn’t meet again, and then he turned cold and refused to help you.
“Why he did not want to at least wait for me?”- Because, like you said, he was “cold as stone.”
“I felt guilty as I took the wrong way and made him wait. He doesn’t cope well with stressful situations. And that I wish we had communicated better that day and that him shutting down emotionally caused me a lot of pain. I wanted to tell him that we should work on that in the future.”- Your focus shifted from protecting yourself from a cold-as-stone man to… protecting him.. from you.
Recently, I came across the term emotional reversal. It’s a relational dynamic where someone responds to your authentic emotion—(in this case, your valid anger and disappointment about his cold-as-stone behavior)—by shifting the focus onto how your emotion makes them feel, rather than honoring your emotion. It’s a form of deflection, often used to avoid responsibility, maintain control, or preserve comfort.
Common examples: You say: “I’m angry about how I was treated.” They say: “You’re making me feel attacked.”
You say: “I need space right now.” They say: “Wow, I guess I’m just a terrible person then.”
You say: “This dynamic feels unsafe for me.” They say: “You always make things about you.”
Instead of engaging with the content of your emotion, they react to the discomfort it causes them—and make you responsible for that discomfort.
Emotional reversal is harmful because it invalidates your emotional truth. It shifts blame and derails accountability. It pressures you to soothe them instead of honoring yourself. It often leads to self-doubt, shame, or emotional labor.
“I could actually contact him first to say that I am sorry for ruining that afternoon…” To tell him you’re sorry is the emotional labor I mentioned above (another new term for me). He mistreated you that afternoon… and yet… you want to soothe him, to take care of his emotions.
You didn’t ruin that afternoon, Dafne—he did, by choosing coldness over care. You don’t owe him an apology for reacting to being mistreated. You owe yourself protection, clarity, and self-loyalty. You’re not a villain—you’re someone who felt pain and named it. That’s not cruelty. That’s courage.
🤗💝 Anita
August 15, 2025 at 9:39 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448652anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
I will reply more tomorrow, but for now, after reading your message, as to: “Do you think it had something to do with his real character or rather bad coping/communication skills?”- I think it was about his real lack of character:
He didn’t try to help you when you were lost and scared. He didn’t even wait for you. He didn’t bother to ask about your well-being later.. Lack of character, lack of heart..
It’s not anything you said/ did wrong, Dafne.
More tomorrow.
Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Laven:
I didn’t read all of this post, but of what I read, this is breaking my heart: “I don’t have a family, nor have a family unit. I’m an orphan…that no one genuinely wants. They weren’t searching nor looking for me. They never are. They don’t even know my last name…still…after all these years.”-
It’s breaking my heart because I know you are a real person out there feeling this way.. and because I too felt this way for way too long: no one was looking for me. It was as if I was a non-entity.. something that wasn’t visible.
But I do see you, Laven! You are visible here because you made yourself visible by telling your story here, and I am honored to see you!
More, tomorrow.
Anita
August 15, 2025 at 8:42 pm in reply to: Gf’s Dad passing was the final straw into ending our long distance relationship #448648anita
ParticipantI’m home early enough to elaborate on my Happy Birthday wishes to you:
Happy Birthday, Alecsee 🎉🥳🎊🎈🎂🍰🧁🍾🥂🍷🍸🍹🍺🍻🎁💝🎀💐🌟✨💫🌈👑🪩💃🕺👗👠💅🎶🎵🎤🎧🎷🎸🎹
Anita
August 15, 2025 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Gf’s Dad passing was the final straw into ending our long distance relationship #448646anita
ParticipantHAPPY BIRTHDAY, Alecsee~ will reply further tomorrow.
Anita
anita
ParticipantWill read and reply to you Sat morning, Laven. Please do something nice, something kind.. for yourself this Fri afternoon/ evening.
Anita
August 15, 2025 at 2:49 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448642anita
ParticipantDearest Dafne: I will read and reply to you either tonight or Sat morning (it’s Friday afternoon here).
💝 Anita
anita
ParticipantHi MissLDutchess:
Thank you for sharing so honestly. That sting you’re feeling is real—and you’re not alone in it. Isabel’s reply in your last thread really stuck with me: she talked about how hard it can be to find deep connection when others seem more focused on surface-level milestones. Her story reminded me that the path to love and belonging isn’t always fast, but it can be meaningful and worth the wait.
To your first question: when someone else reaches a milestone you long for, it’s okay to feel the ache. Try gently reminding yourself, “Their timeline isn’t mine. My path is unfolding in its own way.” You’re not behind—you’re building something real.
And for staying focused: keep doing what you’re doing—vision boards, journaling, putting yourself out there. But also let joy live in the now. Love isn’t just a future event—it’s in how you care for yourself today, how you show up with hope, and how you keep choosing your dream even when it’s hard.
You’re already on your way. 💛
Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Laven:
I am truly sorry for all the pain and turmoil you’ve been carrying for so long, and that today was terrible 😔
Please keep sharing, keep telling your story. You matter, Laven!
If you haven’t already, I hope you’ll consider reaching out to a therapist or crisis support. You deserve help that’s equipped to hold this kind of intensity with care and skill. You don’t have to fight this alone.
—Warmly, Anita
August 15, 2025 at 9:59 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448633anita
ParticipantDear Dafne:
It’s so good to hear from you again. I felt a wave of warmth reading your message—thank you for your kindness and openness. You have a beautiful way of weaving care into your words, and I’m truly grateful for that.🥰
I’m glad the retreat gave you moments of stillness and connection. The way you described people communicating through eyes and gestures, without comparison or chaos—it sounds like something.. different. I never experienced it and never attended a retreat. You were brave to go to it, and even braver to stay.
As for the situation with the man… you were vulnerable, lost, and reaching out—and he chose not to wait, not to help, not even to check if you got home safely. That kind of emotional absence can feel like a betrayal, especially when you extend empathy and given someone another chance. Your instinct to say “we will not meet again” was protective, not punitive. It was your inner self drawing a boundary in real time, saying: I deserve to be met with care, not indifference.
You weren’t asking for perfection—you were asking for presence. And when someone shows you that they can’t offer that, especially in a moment of distress, it’s not only valid to step away—it’s wise.
Whenever you feel distressed, maybe you could return—just for a few breaths, to the memory of that retreat. To the silence, the smiles, the simplicity. Let those moments remind you of what’s possible when people choose kindness, even without words.
You are not too much for wanting emotional safety. You are not wrong for needing someone who shows up. And you are certainly not a villain for hoping that a partner might have a plan, a foundation, a sense of responsibility.
Thank you again for sharing so much of yourself. I’m holding your story with care. I hope you continue to find spaces—within and around you—that feel like that retreat: quiet, kind, and true.
With warmth, Anita
anita
ParticipantHi again, Jana:
“When I am vulnerable, people want to connect… in the end I always open the door to more genuine and honest conversation.”-That’s excellent, Jana! It makes me happy to read this.
“I like it. The more open I am, the more welcoming my energy is… and people are nicer. (98% of them) It just took me some time to understand it. I have processed the strange idea that people wanted to hurt me… Socializing feels much better today! And I don’t even feel so drained after that. Hurrah!”- Hurrah indeed! Reading your words this morning brought a big smile to my face (still smiling). I’m happy for you.
“Do you have any plans for the weekend? It’s really hot here. We might go swimming to a local quarry with our dog.”- It was hot here too, but last night it started raining—now it’s cool and breezy. I’m planning to socialize this afternoon, and tomorrow night I hope to dance to live music—maybe even outdoors, depending on the weather.
I hope you enjoy your weekend and have a great, refreshing time swimming!
With care, Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Jana:
In regard to your earlier message to me—the one that ends with “I’m not sure what you mean”—
I’m not at all clear about what’s confusing to you. Could you clarify what you mean by “the connection” you’re unsure of? I wasn’t presenting a structured argument, just sharing how certain experiences feel linked for me. If something didn’t land clearly, I’m open to hearing more specifically what felt confusing to you. That would help me understand where you’re coming from.
In regard to the last message you addressed to me:
“I try so hard. I really want to connect.” What makes it so hard, Jana?
“I cannot relate when I know so little.” What little do you know?
“I will not minimize your feelings… I will not hurt you anymore.”- Thank you, Jana.
“When you write only these short sentences, which read that you don’t want to connect… I was just caught in a moment of my emotions.”- My short reply followed me being caught in a moment of my emotions 🌩️🙂
“Do you remember? You wanted to make this place bigger… I really wish we could.”- Yes, I do wish there were more people participating in the forums.
“I need to control myself… I know that it wasn’t rejection… just my emotions read it as rejection.”- You are learning to pause, reflect, and stay present with your feelings. That’s not easy, and I admire it.
You’re showing emotional growth in many ways. Jana—by staying in the forums instead of leaving again, by naming your reactions without blaming, and by expressing a desire to connect even when it feels hard. That’s healing work, Jana. I see it, and I respect it.
Warmly, Anita
anita
Participant“❤️ and ☀️”- back to you, Jana. Sincerely, I like you. I.. don’t have the words.. How should I put it.. Don’t know.. Maybe put it this way, Jana: I am not the enemy.. Yet seems like you .. think I am..?
No, Jana.. wanted to be your friend and nothing else. For whatever it’s worth..
Goodbye, Jana.
Anita
anita
ParticipantHello Jana: I was naming something real. If it doesn’t resonate, that’s okay. I’m not here to convince.
Take care, Anita
anita
ParticipantHi Debbie:
Your question—“What if my authentic self is someone I don’t like?”—is brave and honest, and I want to honor that.
What parts feel hard to like?
Whose voice taught you that those parts were unworthy?
What would it mean to offer those parts compassion instead of critique?
I will answer these questions as they apply to me, past and present:
(1) “What parts feel hard to like?”- Past: all the parts. Present: The part of me that still tries to get my mother/ others to like me by minimizing myself, disregarding myself, compromising my truth so to please others.
(2) “Whose voice taught you that those parts were unworthy?”- primarily my mother. To a lesser extent: peers in school.
I remember my mother telling me (as she was hitting and shaming me): “The only thing I like about you is that you look down at the floor and you don’t talk back”- She liked my submission, me giving in to her.
Other than liking my submissiveness, she mentioned 2 other things she liked about me: she said I look European and that I was very intelligent and an excellent student in school.
This is it, just these 3 things.
Now, thing is, I really wasn’t very intelligent. I suffered from learning disabilities and it took me many hours to do homework and prepare for tests, only to get on average, C+ grades, and I would forget almost all the material I memorized for tests soon after each test. Also, I do not look European. I look North African.. like my mother.
So 2 of the 3 things she liked about me weren’t true. The submissiveness part she liked- that liking led to a lot of devastation in my life for decades and decades.
In school, I was never part of the “cool kids”. I was the outsider and I believed it was so because I was inferior, defected, unacceptable. Having Tourette’s (motor and vocal tics) didn’t help, to put it mildly.
3) “What would it mean to offer those parts compassion instead of critique?”- I didn’t expect to ask myself this question. My first instinct was to say that I will never, ever like the part of me that still tries to get my mother/ others to like me by minimizing myself, etc., submitting to others, that is. I hate that part!
But then, the question above remains.. It makes sense that I’d need to like all parts of me, including parts I want changed. So, let me try this here (continuing to type as-I-think).. I’ll write a letter to my Submitting Part. I’ll call it SP-
Dear SP:
Thank you for trying so hard to protect me all those years. You knew that her aggression could be deadly. You saw how volatile she got, how rageful.. You heard her threats.. Yes, of course you felt I was in physical danger. So, you did your best for my sake: submit, go belly up.. this way she’d feel she won, she’s on top of me and she’d calm down and let me live.
We’re not there anymore, SP, subject to her aggression, at her mercy. So, you can rest now.. until and if we’re in that position again. I would need you if a situation like that happens again (one where I am completely powerless against an aggressor). Again, thank you so much and rest well. You deserve the rest.
(Letter completed).
I hope something in what I shared above resonates or supports you in your own reflection.
With care, Anita
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