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anita
ParticipantI’ll be back to you, Milda, Fri morning (Thurs night here)
anita
ParticipantDear Tom:
In the absence of structure in the external, work context, it can help to rely on structure in the internal, personal context, things like taking a walk every day at about the same time, maybe at the same location.. keeping a routine of doing the same things every day, as well as maybe repeating a mantra first thing in the morning, every day, such as “I am strong. I am capable”.
It’ll be Saturday soon enough. Please take good care of yourself!
๐ฟ ๐ค Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Jana:
Thank you for the quotes ๐
“Beginning Anew… is a practice of recognition and appreciation of the positive elements within ourselves and the other person.”- to me, this sentence stands out the most. This is what I need to do more of, every day.
“We look deeply to see the positive qualities in the other person and express our appreciation for them. Share at least three
positive qualities that you have observed in them and things for which you feel grateful. Be as concrete as possible….This is an opportunity to shine light on the otherโs strengths and contributions and to encourage the growth of his or her positive qualities.”-Jana, I observed that 1. You are honest and trustworthy, 2. You are humble, 3. You value and promote calm, peace and respect.
“EXPRESSING REGRETS- We may mention any unskillfulness in our actions, speech, or thoughts that we have not yet had an opportunity to apologize for.”-
I was unskillful in my actions, speech and thoughts so many, many.. many, many times in my life, I wouldn’t know where to start. In regard to being unskillful in my thoughts, the most unskillful element has been that once I saw a negative quality in another person (real or imagined negative), I became blind to the person’s positive qualities, and focused on the perceived negative or negatives, leading to a distorted image of the person. This is why the sentence (quote) I started this post with stood out for me.
In regard to unskillful speech- words I said to people irl, and words I typed out here in the forums- I regret all. I cannot go back in time and unsay things, or resay things, but I can and am holding myself accountable for my speech today and every day. While understanding perfection is impossible for anyone, I am more capable now than ever to speak skillfully.
I apologize for my unskillful speech in my communication with you, Jana, and I apologize to anyone and everyone who may be reading this in regard to my past unskillful speech.
“PEACE TREATY… I, the one who is angry, agree to: 1 Refrain from saying or doing anything that might cause further damage or escalate the anger.”- this sentence stands out the most in your 2nd post, Jana.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
Participantedit: At a very young age, when you were a young child- before the shaming and guilt-tripping- you naturally reached out to your parents simply, clearly and freely, as all young children do (pre-trauma). How did they react?
anita
ParticipantDear Milda:
There’s something I thought above before getting to the computer this very early Thurs morning (here). It’s about what you wrote yesterday: “old me was comforting and enabling her, fixing for her, caring for her.”-
I was thinking that your self-esteem may be tied to this role of comforting- enabling- fixing- caring (CEFC, if you will ๐). This may be a rope in the elephant story we talked about. If you end this role, this source of self-esteem will be gone.
I know how frustrating, exhausting this role has been for you, a source of great suffering. Still, the times- however temporary- when she seemed comforted or fixed- those were rewarding experiences for you, and we people are motivated to do what it takes to be rewarded.
And now, to your most recent post: thank you for your empathy!
“I want to write simply, clearly and free myself. I never acted as an adult with them. I was always acting out of the compulsive, automatic, childhood programs. I want a change in this at least.”-
Here’s a potential trap: elevating the CEFC role from the compulsive, automatic level to the adult level, with the idea that at the adult level, you’ll be more successful at CEFC.
“I want to write simply, clearly and free myself.”-
At a very young age, when you were a young child- before the shaming and guilt-tripping- you naturally reached out to your parents simply, clearly and freely. You were simply, clearly, as all young children do (pre-trauma). How did they react?
I agree with Tee that “it wouldnโt be the best idea to write them an honest letter, baring your soul, expressing your vulnerability, because it may be used against you, and may cause you even more pain.” (Tee’s words, I am quoting this sentence because it’s perfect).
As a young child, you naturally bared your soul and expressed your vulnerability, and they used it against you.. didn’t they? Better you don’t expose the child-within you to the same at this time.
If you would like to, you can write these letters here, in your thread, because here, you are way, way safer, emotionally than you are with your parents.
I am looking forward to reading your thoughts, and I respect your choices on the matter, whatever they may be.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantHow are you, Q..?
October 1, 2025 at 8:01 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #450485anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
Your last words to me, 7 days ago: “And I am so touched, that you keep on helping me too! I know Iโve been a bit absent lately.”-
I don’t think I’ve been helping you, Emma. I wish I did. Not your fault.
There were times no one was able to help me. My thoughts were louder than anyone’s words. My shame was too loud, my guilt like an ongoing earthquake in my psyche. The self-doubt.. excruciating. The regret.. unforgiving.
I don’t want to lose connection with you, Emma.
Groetjes, ๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantI should add: she was so important to me that I thought I was equally as important to her. Yes, she repeatedly shamed and guilt tripped me, but I thought that underneath it, she loved me.
Looking back, when someone repeatedly shames and guilt trips another person for years, even decades.. there’s no love underneath ๐
anita
ParticipantDear Milda:
First thing, it is your choice whether you take a break from your mother or not. Absolutely your choice.
Second, I so relate to your story! For me, “mother=guilt” can easily be the title of my story.
Third, I will share more of my story with you in regard to this prediction you made less than 5 hours ago: “she will fight to get the old me back, because old me was comforting and enabling her, fixing for her, caring for her.”
I was so sure that once I cut contact with my mother she would fight for me, that is, she would fight to get me back! I was absolutely sure! I thought she couldn’t live without me in her life.
I cut contact, got a birthday card from her six months later, and then… NOTHING. 12 years of nothing. No fighting to get me back, not even a tiny battle.
What I realized was that for so long, I couldn’t live without her. I believed I couldn’t, so I projected this belief-feeling into her- thinking she couldn’t live without me.
It was just a projection, and an inaccurate one.
My story is that of unrequited love. I loved her. She didn’t love me back.
I am not angry about it anymore. She simply didn’t have the capacity, had a very traumatic childhood and a very difficult life.
But Truth remains: unrequited love.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Milda: I will read and reply by tomorrow, take care!
anita
ParticipantDear me:
It’s a good thing you’ll see your buddy, that the trip won’t be just about spending time with her. It’d be less scary this way, meaning if things don’t work out with her, you’d have him to talk with, as a friend. Right?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Milda:
I am happy to communicate with you too, Milda. Thank you for giving me this opportunity!
“I always searched for ways to meet their emotional needs UNCONDITIONALLY.”- you loved them unconditionally. You are and always have been a loving daughter. I can tell you are a loving person overall by the attentive, kind and appreciative ways you respond to those of us who respond to you, here on your thread.
“But meeting my needs by them was always conditional. Always. And conditions were not on my side, so I was left alone with my problems and my need for safety, acceptance and love.”- the fact that they didn’t love you back in the ways that matter most does not take away from the fact that you loved them so much and for so long.
“Canโt feel nothing authentical about me”- I think that your loving nature is very much an authentic part of you!
“If it was only who could make another person happy, problem-free, my parents would be acting differently. They are not happy people, they are doing their automatic behavior and nothing changes.”- your authentic, unconditional love for them did not bring any positive change in them.. it made no positive difference in the ways they think, feel and live.
Not because you loved them wrong, but because they didn’t take in your love. It met their surface, but never their depthโit slid off them like oil on Teflon. Do you agree?
“my problems, this ‘hanging’ situation with my parents about how to continue the communication with them, so that I do not become this stressed, over functioning person. Right now it feels as if itโs impossible to have a peaceful relationship with parents. They want answers from me, they want to know what happened and the saddest part is that I could try to explain, but they will never understand… The lack of ability to see the next step now that I have stopped communication with parents is crushing me.”-
As I see it, you are indeed in a “‘hanging’ situation”- neither here nor there- neither in regular communication with your parents, nor in a cessation of communication. It’s like you are still on the phone with someone, on a pause. You didn’t hang up the phone yet.
What if you hang up the phone, that is, make it very clear to them that you will not be communicating wit them at all- not directly and not indirectly- for the next two years, let’s say. It’d give you a significant breathing room. You can put as much love into this kind of clear, assertive message. Ask them to respect your choice, make it clear to them tat you are struggling and need this break from them for your mental health.
Not that I have reason to expect them to respect your assertion (from what you shared about them). This message would be still about your love for them, but also about your love for yourself.
What do you think/ feel about my suggestion?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantDear me:
I am not surprised she wants to travel with you. After all, the two of you had a lot of fun together.
How do you feel about the idea of traveling with her? That would be the first time you’d be with her outside of work, right?
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantThis is all difficult stuff, Milda.. the Anger vs the Empathy.. The Love vs the Anger..
I wish I could be of some help to you.. however little.
The contrast between caring too much.. And the need to survive that too-much-caring..
You relate to what I am saying? (It’s okay if you don’t)
If you do relate, let me know. Let me help you best I can.
๐ค๐ฟ Anita
anita
ParticipantDear Tom:
You posted the above on Oct 1, 10:19 am, Singapore time, right?
Only 25 min ago..
You’ll make it through, Tom. Try to make the best of it. Focus on the positives…And post here, anytime you feel like it. I am here!
๐ฟ ๐ค Anita (Sept 30, 7:44 pm here, U.S.)
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