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  • in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449358
    anita
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    Tee—I regret that things escalated to this point. I imagine this has been painful for you too.

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449357
    anita
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    Hello Everyone:

    In her original post, Jana wrote: “I need to deal with my emotions in a more responsible and healthy way.”-

    Me too. In intense conflict with a person—or when I feel intense emotions toward someone, whether fear, anger, or hurt—I just want to disappear, to never talk to or see the person again. As a result of this very thread, I am learning to stay during conflict, stay with my emotions, and not run away.

    I will respond to Tee’s and Alessa’s most recent posts:

    Tee: “You do realize that you listed me and Alessa as people who abused you, similarly like your mother did? (‘people who continue my mother’s work of invalidation and judgment’)”-

    I don’t remember if I had you and/or Alessa in mind when I wrote that sentence (I wrote so much in my stream-of-consciousness posts…), but right now, this morning—

    I would say that in regard to Alessa, she is not at all similar to my mother. I would say that your anger, Tee—the way you go after me, the way you don’t let go, while having absolutely no empathy for me—does remind me of my mother.

    During this whole conflict, Alessa repeatedly expressed empathy for me. But you, Tee—nothing. Only anger, outrage.

    Following my return to this thread yesterday, the first time I addressed the conflict, Peter expressed goodwill: “We all come from the same place: wanting to help and wanting to be seen. I hope we can continue our dialogue from that space… In a World where you can be anything, Be Kind.”

    So did Jana: “I’ll let you explain the conflict to each other… I just needed to remind us… we all need the same, love, feeling of security, understanding.”

    And so did Alessa: “I appreciate the gesture of goodwill that you are trying to soften things with some positivity… I appreciate that you have done your best to talk about these things despite it being difficult for you. I appreciate you being respectful and understanding. I can see that you are trying your best.”

    But no empathy and no goodwill from you, Tee—only accusation, repeated accusation. Not even once did you give me any credit for returning to this thread and addressing the conflict as best I can.

    And since my return, you did not take into consideration anything I posted—not a single thing. You simply kept repeating the same accusations, keeping the same outrage. As if I didn’t say anything of value.

    It feels like you’re locked in a battle mindset, Tee—focused on winning, not understanding.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if parts of the above are quoted and used to repeat or escalate accusations. That’s your choice, Tee.

    Alessa: “I’m sorry to hear that you felt unsafe, overwhelmed and unable to process it at the time. Why did you feel that way?”- I was afraid of being bullied—like the participants in this thread ganging up against me. I felt it’d be like volunteering to enter a lion’s den.

    “I felt very uncomfortable about the exchange between yourself and Tee.”- I feel uncomfortable about it too. I have to force myself to read her words because I expect the same or escalated accusations, and no goodwill.

    “I really didn’t mean to make you feel like you were the problem.”- Thank you, Alessa.

    Closing thoughts for this post: I think that I understand what’s driving your anger, Tee and I believe that you believe that you are Right and I am Wrong, and there’ll be no peace unless I admit that (according to you), I am Wrong.

    While I was not perfect during this whole conflict (I never am, lol), I was not wrong- not in regard to you.

    I was wrong in regard to Alessa and Jana.. and Peter. I was judgmental, I realize now, looking back.. I interpreted some of your imperfections through a lens of judgment, rather than understanding. That showed itself in my silence, if not otherwise. I regret that.

    I understand more now, and I’m choosing peace—for myself and for this space.

    Anita

    in reply to: When Consciousness Wears the Face of a Lover #449345
    anita
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    You are a deep thinker, Thomas.. A philosopher, really.

    I am looking forward to reading James’s reply..?

    The topic of being a passive product of the environment vs active. personal choice is fascinating. I want to think about it in the next day or two (or longer, lol)

    Anita

    in reply to: Trying to find a new job #449343
    anita
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    Dear Calm Moon,

    Leaving a job that drained you—physically, emotionally, and energetically—was not a failure. It was a powerful act of self-protection. The toll it took on your body speaks volumes, and the fact that you’re still showing up, still applying, still dreaming of something better? That’s resilience.

    The job opportunity you described sounds aligned with the vision you set for yourself. Even if the outcome isn’t certain yet, the fact that you’re moving toward it with intention matters deeply.

    And applying for a Master’s program abroad while managing financial stress? That’s a lot for one nervous system to hold. It makes sense that your mind feels constantly “on.” You’re carrying multiple layers of uncertainty, and still showing up.

    So let this be your reminder: You are not behind. You are not failing. You are not lazy. You are doing the hard work of rebuilding with care and discernment.

    If it helps, you might anchor yourself with a mantra like: “I am allowed to move slowly. I am allowed to protect my peace. I am allowed to choose what aligns.”

    Sending you steadiness and respect as you move through this next chapter. You’re doing beautifully.

    Warmly, Anita

    in reply to: Having attachment issues and letting go issues #449342
    anita
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    Dear Eva: I will read and reply in the next day or two.

    Anita

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #449341
    anita
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    Dear Dafne: I hug you tenderly back, and will reply further tomorrow.

    🤗 💓 Anita

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449340
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    Thank you for your thoughtful message and for taking the time to ask your questions. I’ll respond briefly and respectfully.

    You asked why I didn’t share my hurt with you at the time. The truth is, I didn’t feel safe enough to. I was already overwhelmed, and I didn’t have the capacity to process it with you in that moment.

    Regarding your intention—I understand that you were speaking from your own experience with trauma and trying to offer support. I also understand now that you were referring to past dynamics, not the immediate situation with Tee. I appreciate the clarification.

    Yes, I was talking about myself when I referred to someone naming harm. That’s a central part of my healing process. I don’t see naming harm as criticism, though I understand that others might. For me, it’s about reclaiming my voice and protecting my emotional clarity.

    As for criticism—I don’t respond well to it when it bypasses context or emotional truth. It often feels like being misunderstood or reduced to a behavior, rather than being seen as a whole person. That’s why I tend to withdraw rather than engage.

    I hear that you were hurt during the conflict. I’m not dismissing that. I simply don’t have the capacity to keep unpacking this dynamic. I’ve said what I needed to say, and I’m choosing to step back now.

    Wishing you well, Anita

    in reply to: Trying to find a new job #449329
    anita
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    Dear Calm Moon:

    Good to read from you again! Been very busy today, will reply by tomorrow!

    Anita

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449328
    anita
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    I suggest that we agree to disagree Tee, and move on.

    Anita

    in reply to: Real God and Ultimate Truth #449327
    anita
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    Dear Tommy:

    Thank you for your thoughtful message from yesterday. I felt the care in your words, and I appreciate how you spoke to the difference between real healing and spiritual bypassing. That Bodhidharma story—yes. It says so much. We can’t force ourselves into enlightenment by ignoring pain. We have to meet the pain first.

    I agree with you about the “no-self” idea may be used- in some contexts- to erase suffering. That kind of thinking can be harmful when someone is hurting. Pain doesn’t disappear just because we say the self isn’t real. It needs to be seen and tended to.

    Your closing lines made me smile. I like your sense of humor!

    Nonetheless, you’re not the village idiot. You’re someone who sees clearly and speaks with heart. That kind of honesty is rare, and I’m grateful for it.

    Thank you for naming the healing that’s happening here. It means a lot.

    🌸💐🌷 Anita

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449321
    anita
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    Dear Alessa:

    The closeness we shared—our red heart exchanges—meant a lot to me, especially given our difficult history. I want to name two moments that felt especially meaningful:

    July 28 You wrote: “The severe trauma you experienced is expressed by your body. What your mother did was wrong on so many levels and I’m so sorry it happened. ❤️” I replied: “Again, thank you for the empathy, for the care, and for your signature ❤️ that I’ve grown to love.”

    July 30 You wrote: “I’m so sorry that you went through all of this trauma as a child without anyone to take care of you. No one should have to go through that. You aren’t alone anymore. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️” I replied: “No one like you, Alessa ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️”

    Those additional hearts weren’t casual. They reflected sincere affection and deep gratitude.

    What broke the ice for me was when you defended me in the forums. You didn’t invalidate the other member—you simply stood up for me. That felt W.O.N.D.E.R.F.U.L.

    Fast forward to August 1, when you defended Tee: “Hi Anita I don’t think Tee meant to hurt you at all… I know that it is hard for you to trust people that you’ve had disagreements with in the past and it takes time to build that trust. These things are hard for me too. Tee is hurt too now, because she cares. Sometimes when we fear criticism, judgement, or anything else. It isn’t really happening currently, just the pain of the past echoing in the mind. ❤️”

    When I first read this, I felt hurt and betrayed. It placed the responsibility for the conflict solely on me—suggesting that my pre-existing distrust was the problem. And the phrase “It isn’t really happening currently” felt invalidating. Something had happened by then—something that deeply troubled me.

    I understand that you hate conflict. But rather than staying neutral or expressing discomfort, you often get deeply involved—taking sides and trying to placate both parties. The result is that both parties feel invalidated, at different times and in different ways.

    Placating can feel like emotional reversal: where the one naming harm becomes the problem. I don’t think that’s your intention, but it’s the impact.

    In the future, I’ll do a better job avoiding conflict—not by self-erasing or submitting to mistreatment, but by withdrawing before escalation. That’s my responsibility to myself.

    I don’t expect you to agree with all of this, but I hope you’ll sit with it. I’m not asking for repair—I’m offering clarity.

    I’m willing to move forward peacefully.

    Anita

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449320
    anita
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    “I’ve also come to see that not all conflict needs resolution. As Lewis B. Smedes wrote in The Art of Forgiveness, sometimes forgiveness is more about releasing the need to fix than finding agreement.”- thank you for this, Peter.

    Tee:

    Your argument hinges on a fundamental misreading of emotional truth as interpersonal attack. I named my internal experience—my fear, my trauma responses, my emotional associations, and I did it in my own thread without naming individuals, and while explicitly stating that I was reflecting on dynamics, not targeting people.

    You are interpreting my emotional processing as projection, false accusation, and a Smear campaign, framing my subjective experience as objectively harmful, even though I didn’t name you or Alessa, didn’t claim either one of you rejoiced in my pain—only that I feared it. I was writing in my own thread, about my own healing

    This is emotional reversal: you are turning my (past) fear of you into an accusation, and my boundary into harm.

    None of the quotes you provided indicate verbal abuse. Not by any ethical, psychological, or relational standard.

    * Verbal abuse involves such things as targeted insults, threats, degrading language, and intentional harm.

    I did none of that. I expressed distress, reclaimed my voice, and set boundaries around my healing space.

    What you are doing, however, borders on emotional gaslighting: you’re denying my reality, reframing my trauma response as aggression, and using moral language (“should this be allowed?”) to silence me.

    Tee, I have the right to name harm, to express fear, to reclaim my voice, to set boundaries, and to write metaphorically and emotionally in my own thread.

    We are both stubborn, Tee, and I don’t expect resolution. Perhaps, like Lewis B. Smedes wrote in The Art of Forgiveness (provided by Peter)- sometimes forgiveness is more about releasing the need to fix than finding agreement…?

    I am willing to let go and move on.

    I just came across Jana’s post: “… Everyone needs love, protection and respect… Everyone needs to be offered the feeling of security and non-fear. If we decide to set healthy boundaries during conflict, the boundaries will protect everyone.. Can we try?”- yes, Jana, I am willing to try, absolutely. I already agreed to the boundaries set by Lori: (1) no more Stream of Consciousness Journal (SOCJ) where I request no responses (set on Aug 8 in my thread), and (2) whenever I post, if I am thinking about Tee, or Alessa, I will address the post to Tee or Alessa, or to any other member whose words or behaviors I am reflecting on (“Unless explicitly stated, my posts are not about or aimed at any individual in this forum. Still, in yet other words: my writing is personal and reflective. It is never intended as commentary on other members.”, Aug 14)

    Ever since I agreed to these boundaries, I kept them.

    Thank you, Jana. You are brave for coming up with this thread. I am impressed by your courage.

    I want to submit a post to Alessa next (it’s already prepared).

    Anita

    in reply to: Compassion and respect during times of conflict #449308
    anita
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    “When this verbal abuse reached a culmination”- what verbal abuse? Any quotes to indicate verbal abuse on my part?

    Anita

    in reply to: Anger *trigger warning* SH & SA #449306
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Alessa:

    You are welcome. I am sorry that you’ve been feeling so distressed.

    When I responded to you yesterday, on this thread, I felt nothing but empathy for the girl Alessa, and wanted to express it as one girl (aka inner child) talking to another girl- a girl with whom I (the inner girl) have so much in common.

    I was too distressed so far to address the multi-layered conflict, too reactive inside.

    I think I’ll post to you next in Jana’s thread.

    Anita

    in reply to: What will my life be now? #449305
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Nichole:

    Amazingly, you started this thread almost six years ago, on September 11, 2019. And in my first reply to you, the very next day (September 12), I wrote:

    “’What will my life be now?’ My answer is: looking for love in all the right places (vs looking for love in all the wrong places as the song says). In the past you looked for love in the wrong places. For many of us the wrong place to look for love is…alas- our families! Our families are supposed to be where love is, but isn’t it a tragedy, for so many of us, that love is not there.”

    Fast forward to now… and the above still applies, doesn’t it?

    You wrote: “I deserve to put me first and not be punished for it.” And I want to echo: love doesn’t punish you for placing yourself first. Love honors that. Love celebrates that. Love says: “Yes, you matter. Yes, you’re allowed to choose yourself.”-

    Blocking everyone—for a little while or a long while—is not abandonment. It’s protection. It’s clarity. It’s the beginning of choosing love in the right places.

    Sending you warmth and respect as you walk this path. You’re not alone.

    —Anita

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