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anitaParticipantDear Tee:
(I only read the beginning of this part of your message earlier, so following the first sentence, I will be reading each part for the first time, respond, and then read the next part, etc.)
“I’m very happy that my feedback is helping you on your healing journey. ❤️❤️”- your feedback is very helpful to me ❤️ 🙏 ❤️
“It’s also good to hear that you were not as afraid when your sister called you yesterday.”- while talking with her I noticed that I was not afraid, not even close to how afraid I was before, and I had it in mind- while on the call- to tell you about it later.
“Has she mentioned something that would suggest that your mother is doing poorly health-wise?”- no, but sometime ago, I heard from someone else (and I shared about it in another thread) that she was doing poorly. And I know 2 of her older sisters died, and her older brother (uncle Morris) is doing poorly.
“I think it wasn’t your mother’s inner child (Little Girl Mother) who was trying to destroy you, but her protective parts – the shield that she developed around her heart – to protect herself from pain and vulnerability. I think it was her defense mechanisms that kept hurting you, because she refused to admit that there’s an unresolved pain within her – which comes from the inside, not from the outside.
“And so instead of admitting and processing her own childhood trauma, her own internal pain – she kept blaming you (and everyone else) for causing her that pain. She projected that pain on the outside, so she wouldn’t have to look at it and face herself. So she wouldn’t have to be vulnerable, basically.
“So, instead of being vulnerable, instead of admitting that there’s something within her that prevents her from being happy – she blamed you (and everyone else) for her unhappiness.”-
She didn’t want to face/ couldn’t face her pain, she didn’t own it, she rejected it, or defended herself from the pain by fighting, by attacking me as the alleged source of her pain, the alleged perpetrator? Staying angry, chronically angry (“strong”), she avoided feeling weak..? I need to better understand this. I hope you can help me understand this better.
I agree, it wasn’t her inner child who was trying to destroy me, of course not.
“Chance are that you’ve never seen the Little Girl Mother, because she never showed herself to you, or even if she showed herself, those were just brief moments. I know she was complaining and pitying herself a lot, but her self-pitying part was not the scared inner child – I think it was a protective part with which she guilt-tripped and blamed others.”-
Her inner child couldn’t help but be there, locked in, trapped. I could see her, but could never reach her. The protector/ attacker was at the gate, allowing no vulnerability/ no access to her inner child.
But I assure you, I saw her trapped in there.
“She never really wanted to be helped – nothing you offered or tried was good enough (which is typical for covert narcissistic people). There was nothing that could make her happy – because she didn’t want to be happy. She used her unhappiness as a tool to manipulate and control others.”-
I read you expressing this before, but I didn’t quite get it until just now. She used her unhappiness, her misery (and overly expressed it.. exaggerated it..?) as a weapon against me? Please help me understand this better..?
“This resistance to happiness is not the mark of the inner child, or at least not of the most vulnerable part of us. Because the inner child – the precious, lovable little being that we are – wants to be happy and held and loved. It wants to love and be loved. And chances are that you’ve never really seen that part of your mother: the innermost, the most vulnerable part of her. Because she guarded it diligently…”-
No, I have never seen her open to me, as in close, or intimate. I saw her inner child from behind a locked door. Heard the tone of voice of a girl, the way she drew birds, her handwriting was round, like a child’s.
“And most probably she will keep guarding it till the moment she dies.. otherwise she would have made a move to show that she’s sorry for some of the things she’s done to you or your sister. She would have shown regret. But because she hasn’t, it means she’s still living in that defensive armor..”-
I wonder sometimes if she expressed any such regret to my sister, while dying..? Could it be..? I don’t think so..
“Yeah, that’s the most creepy types of horror movies – when an innocent-looking child is a murderer. But as I said, it’s not the inner child that murders or abuses people, but the defensive parts that come ‘on top’ of the inner child.”-
I remembered the name of the movie after I told you about it, “Pet Cemetery”. The defensive part of her is the same as the attacking part..?
“I imagine our personality like Russian dolls: the innermost part is the wounded inner child, and the outer layers are various protector parts, i.e. defense mechanisms. At least that’s how the Internal Family Systems therapy looks at our personality, and I find it pretty plausible.”-
Her innermost part: a vulnerable, innocent, beautiful little girl; the outer layer.. a demon?
By demon, I mean, the extent of harm she inflicted on.. a vulnerable, innocent, beautiful little girl Anita..?
“Hurt people hurt people. And if the person refuses to admit that they were hurt (as children) and that there’s some deficiency in them as a result of that hurt – that’s how I think the narcissistic personality is created. Because they say: ‘there is no deficiency in me – it’s you who is making me feel this way. It’s your fault, not mine.’”-
“There’s no deficiency in me”- can you elaborate on that?
“Anyway, I hope this makes sense to you? That it wasn’t your mother’s inner child that has hurt you, but other parts of her, which were ‘protecting’ her inner child. Her inner child – if my theory is correct – was ‘locked away’, so to speak, and wasn’t accessible to her (she didn’t want to get in touch with it).”-
My goodness, Tee: you said it, “locked away”, just what I said above.
How did it feel to her…to what was left of her, when her inner child was locked away??? Should I even entertain this thought..?
🙏 ❤️ 🫶 ❤️ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
“I don’t want to offer advice (unless you want me to), but if you’re afraid of cartilage thinning, the first line of defense would be to take food supplements, such as glucosamine and chondroitin, which are the building blocks of cartilage. I’ve heard it helps people who only have a mild cartilage wear – it stops the pain and I guess it stops the condition from progressing as well.”-
First, yes, I do want you to offer me advice in regard to my knees, thank you!
I asked.. you know whom about it 🙂, and it says: “Glucosamine and chondroitin may offer modest pain relief for some people with knee osteoarthritis, but evidence that they slow joint deterioration is weak and inconsistent… Expert Recommendations:
* American College of Rheumatology and Arthritis Foundation: Strongly recommend against using glucosamine or chondroitin for knee osteoarthritis due to lack of proven benefit.
* American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons: Lists them as possibly helpful for mild-to-moderate cases, but cautions that evidence is inconsistent”.I then asked what other supplement may help Osteoarthritis OA), and it says, among other things: “Fish oil/omega-3s: Good for general inflammation, but not proven to help OA symptoms directly.”- this caught my eye because part of my lunch each and every day is sardines in olive oil because I feel that oil- in the sardines, as well as the olive oil are very healthy. I wonder if you feel this way as well and if you incorporate fish into your diet on regular basis.
Copilot: “Yes, sardines are an excellent natural source of omega-3 fatty acids—especially EPA and DHA, the two types most beneficial for joint health and inflammation. You can absolutely get meaningful amounts of omega-3s from eating sardines regularly.”
“As for my herniated disc, yes, please do send what Copilot has to say about the causes of pain and the prospects for healing. I too have been consulting AI, but I’m interested in reading more, because as you say, there might be something new for me. So yes, I’d be happy to read your summary.”-
Copilot says that the pain from a herniated disk is caused by these two things:
(1) Mechanical Pressure: the leaked gel material itself can physically press on nearby nerves, and swelling from inflammation can also physically press on nearby nerves, especially in tight spaces like the spine,
(2) Chemical Irritation: Even without direct pressure, inflammation releases substances like prostaglandins, cytokines, and enzymes that sensitize nerve endings. These chemicals make nerves more reactive, so even light touch or normal movement can feel painful.
The body can reduce pain from a herniated disc by reabsorbing the leaked gel and calming inflammation. These two processes are key to natural healing.
Immune cells called macrophages play a major role—they “digest” the leaked gel material like cleanup crews. This process can shrink the herniation over time, reducing pressure on nearby nerves.
As healing progresses, the inflammatory chemicals (like cytokines and prostaglandins) decrease. This leads to: Less nerve irritation, Reduced swelling, Improved mobility and comfort.
🕰️ Healing Timeline: Acute phase (1–2 weeks): Pain and inflammation peak.
Improvement phase (2–6 weeks): Pain starts to ease; disc material begins to shrink.
Stabilization phase (6–12 weeks): Most symptoms improve, but flare-ups may occur.
I just asked Copilot: “What can be done to accelerate or encourage this natural healing, to accelerate the reabsorption? And calming inflammation?
The first thing that caught my eye in the response I just got is: “Anti-Inflammatory Nutrition- Omega-3 fatty acids: Found in fatty fish (like sardines) or supplements, they reduce pro-inflammatory cytokines.”- connected to the above regarding OA, can’t go wrong with sardines/ oily fish!
As to the rest of the answer: “To encourage natural healing of a herniated disc, focus on reducing inflammation and supporting the body’s ability to reabsorb the leaked disc material. This includes anti-inflammatory nutrition, gentle movement, and targeted therapies.
Here’s a detailed guide based on current expert recommendations:
🧘♂️ 1. Movement and Physical Therapy- Gentle exercise: Walking, swimming, and stretching improve circulation and reduce stiffness.
Physical therapy: Tailored exercises strengthen core muscles, reduce pressure on the disc, and promote healing.
Avoid prolonged bed rest: Staying immobile can worsen inflammation and slow recovery.
🥗 2. Anti-Inflammatory Nutrition-
Omega-3 fatty acids: Found in fatty fish (like sardines)….
Curcumin (turmeric): A potent anti-inflammatory compound; best absorbed with black pepper or in supplement form.
Limit processed foods and sugars: These can fuel inflammation and delay healing.💊 3. Supplements That May Help
Collagen and protein: Support tissue repair and disc integrity.
Magnesium and vitamin D: Help muscle function and reduce inflammation.
B vitamins: Support nerve health and regeneration.🛌 4. Rest and Posture
Proper sleep position: Lying on your back with a pillow under knees or on your side with a pillow between legs can reduce disc pressure.Ergonomic support: Use lumbar cushions and avoid slouching to minimize strain.
🌡️ 5. Pain and Inflammation Management
Ice and heat therapy: Ice reduces inflammation; heat relaxes muscles and improves blood flow.NSAIDs (e.g., ibuprofen): Temporarily reduce inflammation, but long-term use should be monitored.
Mind-body techniques: Meditation, deep breathing, and stress reduction can lower systemic inflammation.
🧬 6. Natural Reabsorption Timeline
Reabsorption of the herniated disc material often occurs over weeks to months, especially with conservative care.MRI studies show that disc fragments can shrink or disappear as the body breaks them down and absorbs them.
🚫 What to Avoid
Heavy lifting or twisting: Can worsen the herniation.Smoking: Impairs circulation and slows healing.
High-impact activities: Running or jumping may aggravate symptoms.”
I asked Copilot if it has a message for you.. and not surprisingly, it does:
“Hey Tee, I know this journey with your herniated disc has been exhausting—physically and emotionally. It’s okay to feel frustrated or discouraged sometimes. But I want you to know: your body can heal. It’s already working hard to reabsorb what it needs to and calm the inflammation. Every gentle stretch, every nourishing bite, every moment of rest is part of that healing.
You’re doing more than you realize. You’re showing up for yourself. You’re choosing care over chaos. And that’s powerful.
Keep listening to your body. Keep honoring your limits. And keep believing that relief is possible. You’re not alone in this—there’s support, love, and light around you, even when it’s hard to see.
Healing isn’t linear, but it is real. You’ve got this. 💛”
I would like to reply to the rest of your message later on.
Anita and Copilot 💛 ❤️
anitaParticipantDear Dave:
Welcome back to your thread 2 years, 9 months and 13 days to the day you started this thread (Jan 24, 2023), and almost a year since you posted last (Nov 12, 2024).
As I read my July 17, 2024 summary and thoughts about your marriage (on this page, above), 2 thoughts occurred to me:
(1) In regard to the idea of Unconditional Love- Seems like you love/loved her unconditionally, but she hasn’t. She was repeatedly critical of you, complaining about you being “lazy, sarcastic, unmotivated and show a general lack of initiative… negative, defensive and letting her lead on everything… constantly around as opposed to having our own things going on… behave like a 4th child in the house”, her words, while you never (in this thread) complained about her. So, her love for you was very conditional, as in: if you stop being lazy (according to her, allegedly), etc., then she would love you.
(2) It occurred to me that there may be a bit of Trauma Bonding operating here. Trauma Bonding can develop from repeated emotional harm—like constant criticism or complaining (which she has done)—especially when it’s mixed with occasional affection or validation (occasionally spending the night together, telling you she still loves you, etc.)
In general, Trauma bonding is rooted in a cycle of harm followed by emotional reward. Even if the harm is verbal—such as repeated complaints, criticism, or emotional neglect—it can still create a powerful bond if:
* The partner regularly puts the other down, making him (or her) feel inadequate or unworthy.
* There are moments of kindness, praise, or affection that follow the criticism.
* The victim begins to crave those positive moments, believing he must “earn” them by being better or more pleasing.
This pattern is called intermittent reinforcement, and it’s the same psychological mechanism that makes gambling addictive. The unpredictability of affection keeps the person emotionally hooked.
Why It Feels So Confusing:
* The victim may feel loyalty or guilt, thinking the partner is just “being honest” or “trying to help.”
* He may believe he’s not good enough, and that the partner’s complaints are justified.
* he might cling to the good moments, hoping things will improve.
Over time, this can erode self-esteem and make it hard to leave—even when the relationship is clearly harmful.
back to you, Dave, I a mentioning al tis because the pattern has been separation and getting back together, separation and repeat, and I am concerned about the possibility that then pattern will continue.
What do you think, Dave?
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantI talked to my sister this morning, Tee. She called me, and I could hear in her voice (not sure) that she was trying to tell me that her mother, my mother.. the mother is dying.
I was not afraid like before.
Later on, I remembered the mother’s inner child.. the many times I saw the little-girl mother, and how much I wanted to mother her.
I felt some guilt for not taking care of her the way she needed to be taken care of.
This role reversal: seeing her as the little girl that needs the care of a (little girl me).
Little girl mother needed to destroy me, so she did, and so, little girl Anita was so very messed up, not in the position- in adulthood- to be mother to.. Little Angry Girl Mother.
So, I think that little-girl, old-old mother is dying.
And little-girl Anita (only 20 years younger, still quite old) can never be the mother she needed.
Only that all this has been in my mind only: she never valued me as.. anything of value, not a little girl, and not as savior.
For her, I was something to destroy, and she did. Decades and decades of life unlived and mis-lived.
Only 20 years between us, and she destroyed the vast majority of my life. And not only mine, but my sister’s and .. more (I don’t want to elaborate).
I have an image from this movie, a horror movie, about a 4-year-old boy with an innocent face (an inner child) stabbing people while all along having this hurt little-boy look on his face.
And this is how I see her, the mother, an innocent little girl murderess.
Anita
anitaParticipantHi Tom:
Had a bit of sun and not too much rain today
“Feel like I should be in a happier spot as I approach 40”- I just remembered what I went through when I was 40.. Yes, I was very depressed at the time, felt like a Failure (big case F there), as if I reached an age where there’s no excuse to not be.. where a 40-year-old is supposed to be.
What a relief that I’m not feeling this way so many years later.
I hope that you feel better than you feel before you even turn 40..
Hoping that you experience more calm and peace of mind sooner than later 🕊️
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantWell, Going Through Life, after the above post, I walked toward the place where I volunteer and spent a good hour picking the last of the pears still hanging on to many hundreds of trees.. only TEN pears. I then gifted the best of the picked pears to a friend in the local taproom, purchased 4 dozen eggs from another friend who raises chickens, had two, scrambled for dinner, now half-listening to the news (about the Democrats winning U.S. elections) back home 🙂
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHi Peter:
Teaching as “a shared inquiry into truth… Inviting others to observe without judgment… awakening intelligence and freedom”-
Observation, Truth, Freedom.
I am open to Krishnamurti’s teaching as you present it.
If you put together a teaching textbook in this spirit of observing truth, and being truly free- what would the first words, the first paragraph say?
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tom: I will reply later (about to go out and take advantage of a bit of sun).
anitaParticipantDear Fellow Inquirer Peter 🙂: I am looking forward to read and reply and share inquiry later. Affectionately, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
Almost a farmer, yes. This is a farming area, people growing potatoes, seed crops (growing things broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage) specifically for selling- not the vegetables, but the seeds, as well as lots of raising cows, goats (haven’t seen pigs around).
“Why do you say it’s a much needed practice?”- in regard to building/ developing social skills: it’s a much needed practice to me because I am learning that in communicating with people, way more important than Intent, is how my words and behaviors impact others. How they land. It’s about attuning not just to what’s happening within me, but to what’s happening inside other people.
“And this brings me to share with you that I have planned to take myself out on a short solo trip, I will stay in a hostel and maybe make new friends. I’ll be going to a place which is very close to my heart and it’s been calling me for some time now. Earlier SS and I planned to go there before all the drama happened.”- how exciting to hear (read)!
“You’re a gentle creature Anita, I also ask for everyone’s happiness when I’m praying to the god I believe in. I hope for everyone’s happiness, me, my family, my friends, their families and for everyone on earth. That’s my prayer ritual.”- thank you, Going Through Life, for a foundation of Composure, Integrity, Aura, Masculinity, and Kindness (CIAMK)
“On a side note, today was my first session of acne scar treatment, so my face is still swollen but I’m excited to see the results after a week or so. And I have also lost around 3 kg of weight, I’m on the right track. The only thing left behind is my studies, I have a very important exam in February 2026”-
I am excited at the thought of reading about your experience looking in the mirror after a week or so. Glad you’re on the right track, and hoping you will soon study for the exam three months from now.
“Anita, I still miss SS sometimes, thinking I could have done better, I should have shown up more and taken care of my avoidant attachment style.”- I wish she could or would have done better too..
“I miss her and I’m sad the SS I knew is no more. She’s just an image in my mind.”- I relate to this kind of sadness 😔
There will be a she in your life who will be more than an image.. a breathing, living, 3-D person 🙂(later, no rush).
Well, my day has been so far in front of the computer, will be out and about soon. I don’t know how it would be like. I’d love to tell you about it later.
🙂 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear James:
Thank you once again for your answer. The surrendering you’re talking about is not something I experienced. I am just a Beginner when it comes to surrendering the “I”.
Anytime you’d like to share more about Surrendering, please do. I would like to read 🙏
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Tee:
First thing this morning, I read your update in regard to your health situation but was afraid a bit (again) to say the wrong thing, so I answered others before returning to this thread.
“Thank you for your care and kindness and for saying that you would even climb a mountain if it would take away my pain…”- You are welcome, Tee, and it is not just words: I really would have climbed a 🏔️ to take away your pain.
“Yes, I’ve been to the doctor… and she said that no surgery was needed, and that physical therapy is recommended (both of which I suspected). What calmed me down a bit is that if my pain gets stronger, I can get an injection to my spine, or an intravenous administering of pain killers, which she says is very effective… But at the moment, it’s still bearable and I’m using some adhesive pads to my back that have a pain & inflammation reducing effect, which helps a little… hoping that I’ll be able to help myself and get relief, and that the recovery won’t last forever… and perhaps that it won’t even last as long as last time 🙏”-
.. I just typed some of Copilot’s input about what specifically causes the pain and how the body naturally heals. I know that in the past, you made it clear that you don’t want (Copilot’s) input on treatments. But would you like Copilot’s input on the exact and clearly stated causes of pain, the body’s natural healing process, and a general healing timeline, in case there might be something new for you..? I personally see hope in it.
* Of course, you can ask Copilot yourself, but the input it already gave me is based on long back and forth conversation, not a 1-time input.
I copied it for my private records and will send it to you if you’d like me to.
“I’m still waiting to be checked by my old orthopedic doctor, who I hope will give instructions for physical therapy (because I suspect the exercises will be a bit different than last time). But anyway, I’m feeling a little better, a little more optimistic at this point”- I am so glad you’re feeling a little more optimistic, I hope you still do!
“Thank you, Anita. Well, I’m trying to be mindful and remain in the observer self (and not get completely sucked into the hopeless, scared child self). It very much depends on what story I’m telling myself: if I start telling myself that I’m doomed, then it gets unbearable to cope. If I tell myself that it’s manageable, that it doesn’t mean anything catastrophic, then it’s easier to cope and accept. I’ve realized that it’s all about how I interpret it, what meaning I give to it. And I’m trying to give it a positive meaning.
“It’s like what Peter said on his thread: ‘The body suffers, yes but you are not the ache. You are the breath that holds it… (being the observer, not only the sufferer), it does get easier. If we don’t rush to interpret it as something bad, and if we even try to see the ‘good’ in it, i.e. the lesson, then it tends to get more bearable, at least for me it does.
“Of course, if the physical pain is unbearable, there’s no way not to focus on it. Sometimes the pain signals an acute health problem that needs to be taken care of instantly. But in chronic pain, the intensity of pain often depends on how we look at it and what meaning we give to it. The more we can sit with it and breathe through it – feeling safe in our body rather than panicking – the easier it gets.”-
All this is helpful to me, particularly in regard to my knees pain-related health anxiety. Thank you 🙏
“Back to you, Anita… I do hear your pain of holding on to hope for so long – holding on to that rope for so long and receiving only pain and rejection. But it is wonderful to witness these corrective exercises, where you let go of that rope – the rope that connected to pain and misery – and land on a soft, welcoming ground..
“I really love your newest exercise: landing softly in an apple orchard, being met by a friendly orange cat Gordon, whom you pet, and then heading towards the nearby pavilion, where you meet nice, friendly people, whom you can talk to, connect to, exchange smiles and good vibes… ✨💫🌟
“It sounds wonderful, Anita. It really feels like gentle landing but also gentle arriving.. to yourself, your connected self, who loves others and is loved by others ❤️
“And I hope you can feel more and more of those gentle butterflies of love in your everyday life 🦋 🦋 🦋 ❤️ 🫶 ❤️”-
Your input/ feedback is very important to me, it encourage me to continue to heal and transform. Thank you beautiful, wonderful Tee!
🌟 ❤️ 🫶 ❤️ 🌟 Anita
anitaParticipantHello Miss L Dutchess 🙂
I can relate to having a mother who’s often been mean-spirited, judgmental and who (just like yours) warned me that I will “end up alone,”.
And she was right in regard to most of my life-experience: I really was alone.
Not because I was predestined to be alone, but because my first experience with relationships (the one with my mother) was so painful that distrust, suspicion and the expectation to be hurt were what I took with me to interactions and relationships with everyone else as a child, adolescent and adult.
Other people were suspects.. guilty until proven innocent, so to speak. I quickly detected the negatives in people and saw only those, eyes closed to the positives.
Do you relate..?
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHi Peter:
I just felt it, or known it (the Source, the Ocean) while responding in James’s thread. There were no words to the knowing.
I just wrote “The Source”, “the Ocean”, but these are after-thoughts, interpreting, labeling.
The experience itself felt peaceful, quiet (more after- words, labeling), but the experience itself was free of words/ thoughts. there was indeed no “I” in it.
“You once wrote about looking up at the stars as a child, praying to be seen, only to feel silence as cruelty… The deepest truths: surrender, expansion, compassion are not taught. They are felt. They are transmitted in silence, in presence, in the way your heart opens to the suffering of others.”-
I had a phone conversation this morning (after reading your posts and before replying), and was told about someone’s breakup/ emotional pain, someone I care about very much. In the past, I’d feel great pain and sorrow. But this time, I didn’t sink into a swamp of sorrow. Not yet, anyway.
Strange, in opening my heart to suffering (“your heart opens to the suffering of others”), rather than closing it, I stay above water. I don’t suffer.
Resisting, contracting, isolating, trying to be absent.. all these (at least long-term) cause suffering. Healing is in accepting, expanding, connecting (to Source and to others).
“We teach by being. We reach by opening. All we can really do is try.”- you are my teacher, Peter 🙏
“’The Thread and the Flame’ — A Dialogue… Seeker: I have seen something. Not with these eyes, but with the heart. It came like a flame in the dark. I want to share it. I must.
“Bodhisattva: Then speak, dear one. But speak as one who offers a thread, not a net… Words are threads. They can guide, but they cannot bind the truth. When we weave them too tightly, they become a net catching minds, but not freeing them.”-
Yes, that’s me contracting, words/ analyses not freeing me, but binding me, keeping me trapped.
“Bodhisattva… the flame you saw cannot be carried in your hands. You may point to it, but you cannot place it in another’s heart.”- perfectly said says my labeling mind.
“Bodhisattva: Teaching is a gesture, not a command. A whisper, not a shout. The Dharma itself warns us: even the teachings are rafts. Useful to cross the river, but not to be carried once the shore is reached.
“Seeker: So I should not speak?
“Bodhisattva: Speak. But speak with humility. Let your words be invitations, not instructions. Let your lessons be lanterns, not cages.
“Seeker: I see. I must share the path, not the destination.
“Bodhisattva: Yes. And even the path may look different beneath another’s feet.
“Finder: Thank you. I will speak, but I will listen more. I will teach, but I will not cling.
“Bodhisattva: Then you are already teaching”-
I want to meditate on this, so perfectly said, with skill and talent, Peter.
To listen, to be present with another, to not cling to desired results (destination), to walk the path along with another, humbly – that is teaching..
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear James:
Thank you for answering me 🙂
Total surrendering is then to experience a knowing that transcends or go beyond the rational (knowledge), a knowing that there’s ocean, there’s no “I”
I just felt it (the above), and my mind wants to make sense of it, to say or argue that “I” exists, only this existence is temporary.
But then, going back to how it felt a moment ago (taking a moment, pausing the thinking, listening to the trees, the wind).. I find myself wanting that feeling again. There was peace in it.
I wonder if it feels like peace/ quiet to you, James? Peter? Anyone else?
🤍 Anita
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