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anitaParticipantGood Wed morning, Zenith!
Guess who is thrilled to read from you 5 months and a day since last time?
(me)
It was only a day or 2 ago, that I thought of locating your thread and asking how you’re doing, but figured I didn’t want to bother you.. and here you are!
I want to go back and read through our communication here and then get back to you!
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Mollie:
Yes, you shared about it before, first time may have been on Nov 27, 2025: “I exercise 5 times a week. I eat well but I worry about my weight (as before, I was underweight and I lost my periods)”.
So, it makes complete sense that most recently a doctor told you that Relative Energy Deficiency syndrome (RED-S) is “causing all sorts of problems such as fatigue, mood swings, anxiety etc… not had a period in just under a year.” (Oct 20, 2026).
Only that he didn’t say what’s causing the RED-S (RED-S wasn’t random, it didn’t just happen out of nowhere).
In my case, what led to me restricting food and weighing as low as 103 pounds (46.7 kg) at 5’5” (1.65 meters), was a need to C.O.N.T.R.O.L something (calories, my weight), because I felt I had no control over anything that mattered, no say about my own life.
(to be continued in the morning- about the above and about what else you shared today that I didn’t yet attend to)
Anita
anitaParticipantGood Tuesday night, Mollie;
Part of the reason I slept so little last night was because Bogart, having an ear-cleaning and nail clipping apt at the vet today, was given tranquilizers to take last night AND an hour before the apt at 3 pm today (because beagles get very anxious when their nails get trimmed).
Anyway, last night, after I gave him the 2 pills, he looked and acted .. so weird, a dog high on drugs- the lost look in his eyes, the strange ways he moved his body. I was beside myself and worried how he’d make it through the night.
Next, after I submitted the post to you today, had to give him the 2 pills again, and again he acted so weird, and looked at me like he was so lost and confused. Next, at the vet, his ears were tested (and cleaned)- they’re infected with yeast and bacteria. So, I have to put drops in his ears ( will start tomorrow morning)
But NOW, he is finally off the effect of the tranquilizers, finally back to himself ( a relief!), although tired. Well, we’re both tired.
So, I don’t think I paid enough attention to your post today. I want to process it in my mind by tomorrow and respond further.
If you’re reading this before I get back to you, are you saying that you didn’t get a period for almost a year because you don’t eat enough or is it the STRESS (or both?)
Anita and FINALLY sober Bogart π
anitaParticipantGood Tuesday morning, Mollie π
RED-S happens when a person exercises too much (the S= Sports) but doesn’t eat enough, so the body partly shuts down (like not getting a period) so to preserve energy. Isn’t it?
As I read about you enjoying to be looked after, basking in that feeling, and withdrawing from the world out there-
I had a mental image of an overly responsible, emotionally caretaking, too quick-to-turn-adult Mollie needing to be a child.. long- enough this time,
Withdrawing from the adult world so to claim a piece of a carefree childhood she didn’t have enough of π€
Sound more like a need to really rest from too much pressure, too much giving without truly receiving rather than simply depression.
Am I making any sense?
(I slept so poorly last night)
Anita
anitaParticipantGood Tuesday morning, Young π
So, you blamed yourself a lot for those circumstances (“During those periods, I blamed myself a lot”)?
Scrupulosity OCD is a subtype (or theme) of OCD, and within this theme there’re 2 kinds:
(1) Religious Scrupulosity: fear of sinning, of offending God, etc., and
(2) Moral Scrupulosity: fear of being a bad person, of being dishonest, unfair, selfish, disloyal, or unethical.
The person constantly examines their intentions, thoughts, motives, feelings and character rather than their actual behavior.
Have you heard of Scrupulosity OCD, Young?
π€ Anita
October 19, 2026 at 11:23 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #461677
anitaParticipantDear Robi (at the computer):
Oh, I’m fine, thank you for asking, except that I am worried about my beagle. I gave him some tranquilizers tonight (vet’s prescription & instruction) as a preparation for a deep ear-cleaning and nail trimming appt tomorrow, and he is acting “high”. It worries me, so I’m having extra red wine πΆ
* “AuADHD”- I think I saw it before. It’s a term, not a diagnosis.
I’m fascinated by what you shared about your mother and the cat. She noticed the cat’s discomfort but has treated the cat’s discomfort as unimportant.
I asked Copilot how it would affect a cat.
Copilot: “it learns that its signals do not influence the situation. Over time it may avoid the person, become tense around them, stop seeking contact, become resigned and passive, show signs of stress.”-
Reads somewhat familiar, Robi?
(Copilot has nothing to do with the following): If a cat reacts like that, your human reaction to your mother is not a result of a pre-existing neurodivergence/ AuADHD, but as natural a reaction to a mother like that, is what thinks me π€π·
“Resigned and passive”- because what’s the point if what I feel does not matter?
Your mother and mine have this in common: that self-centeredness. Not because they feel important, but because they never did. So, they never matured from the toddler development stage of ‘I want!’ (this toy), ‘it’s mine!’ (not sharing).. to that of: ‘oh, there’s another person there’.
π·π€Anita
anitaParticipantHi Young:
I’m glad you were feeing better 4 hours ago and hope you’re still feeling better as you are reading this.
I hope you feel much better and start or resume a physical exercise routine as well as continue the working with electronics healthy distraction.
..I just happened to reread part your original post and stopped where you wrote that you and your girlfriend almost broke up a few times and that during those almost- breakups, you blamed yourself a lot.
Yet, you didn’t mention anything at all on her part that made her want to break up with you during those few times.. I assume she was angry at you.. but why?
I’m asking because a significant part of your distress may be about fearing another breakup situation..or maybe even partly wishing for one (as a way to eliminate the stress connected to the relationship)?
π€ Anita
October 19, 2026 at 1:30 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #461667
anitaParticipantContinued:
Well, I’m still on the phone after asking Gemini(using the phone). So, neurodivergence is what I thought it is:
Not a diagnosis, but an umbrella term for different combinations of diagnoses. For one person, it means ADHD + Autism, for another, it is ADHD alone, for another, ADHD + dyslexia. For another- Tourette Syndrom, etc.
* Some people consider OCD to be a neurodivergence (there’s a narrower and broader consideration of what constitutes neurodivergence).
And a person can consider themselves neurodivergent without having been diagnosed with anything, because of ADHD or Autism traits.
1 in 5 or 1 in 7 people are considered neurodivergent.
Personally, I was diagnosed with Tourette Syndrome (and OCD), and I fit ADD or ADHD traits), so I am definitely entitled to the term neurodivergent. For some reason, one more term doesn’t make me feel any more special or unique than I felt before πΆ
Personally, I believe that most people who consider themselves (or are considered) neurodivergent are not born that way, or are not that way in that first cell (zygote)
It’s our experiences in our early years that have a whole lot to do with who we become.
I mean, if we have parents who didn’t give a sh** about what we feel and who gave us no privacy.. we become different from who we would have if we had parents who did give a sh** and who gave us breathing room to be.. neuro-typical.
The parenting we receive- or don’t receive- if it’s very divergent from the wishful-typical, is it a wonder that we become neurodivergent?
What thinks Robi?
π€ Anita
October 19, 2026 at 12:13 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #461660
anitaParticipantDear Robi:
I’m glad you asked me what I think π€ even though I was going to tell you anyway, just as I do every time π
You wrote: “I don’t want to label myself as anything and justify my inactions.”-
I think that what you need from yourself is empathy, not judgment. Instead of negatively criticizing yourself, focusing on what you haven’t done, please focus on the positives, on what you have done (“I asked around here, looked online.. applied to many jobs in Poland too”).
Think of a real- life young boy. If he is being criticized and judged on and on, will he be forever motivated to try harder and harder, or.. will he give up at one point, and/ or need a lot of rest from all the criticism (“resting, laying around, feeling comfortable”)?
“She didn’t care if I was uncomfortable… Neither of them gives a sh** about how other people might be feeling”=
No empathy for Robi from his own parents.. They don’t give a sh** about how their own son might be feeling π
I’m using my phone, will be back to you from the computer (I would like to investigate a bit the neurodivergent topic you brought up)
π€ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Young!
I am sorry π to read that you haven’t been feeling very well mentally in the past few days.
You said that it’s because of your thoughts and “everything else”. I wonder what everything else is about (relationship with girlfriend, with parents, school.. ?)
I wonder if you have a daily routine that includes physical exercise (that can help when struggling with elevated anxiety).
π€ Anita
anitaParticipantGood Sunday morning, Young π
You wrote in your original post: “Recently, I was standing with a friend, joking around, when I noticed Lucy nearby. It felt like I started acting a little differently, as if I wanted to look better in front of her… When I notice that a girl is looking at me, I start feeling uncomfortable. I either make awkward, unnatural movements because Iβm self-conscious, or I start acting differently to make myself look better in her eyes.”-
You were joking around with a friend, relaxed, your attention was on the conversation. But the moment you noticed Lucy nearby, your attention shifted inward. You may have thought things like: ‘How do I look?’ ‘Am I standing weirdly?’ ‘Do I sound stupid?’ ‘What does she think of me?’
Instead of simply Being yourself, you started Watching yourself. That is indeed self-consciousness.
Evaluation Anxiety is the fear of being judged or disapproved of by others. The anxious person is thinking things like ‘Does she think I’m awkward?” ‘Does she think I’m attractive?’ ‘Am I making a good impression?’ The focus is on how one is being evaluated.
Many teenagers and young adults experience this.
You wrote today: “Maybe you could give me some advice on how to stop doing that? Itβs just something I donβt really like about myself.”-
The goal is not to stop caring entirely what others think. Most people care at least a little. The goal is to become less disturbed by it.
A few things might help:
1. Recognize what’s happening-
When you notice a girl looking at you and suddenly you feel awkward, you can silently say to himself: ‘I’m becoming self-conscious.’
Not: ‘Something is wrong.’ Just: ‘Ah, there it is again.’
Simply noticing the pattern can reduce its power.
2. Shift attention outward-
Your attention moves from the conversation, the joke, the activity, to: ‘How do I look?’, etc. When you catch yourself doing that, you can gently return your attention to what’s actually happening around you.
3. Allow imperfection-
Part of the anxiety comes from trying to appear ‘right.’ A helpful attitude is: ‘It’s okay if I look a little awkward.’ Ironically, people often become less awkward when they stop trying so hard not to be awkward.
4. Question the assumption that you are being evaluated-
A girl looking at you does not necessarily mean she is judging you. She may be daydreaming, looking around the room, noticing your friend, or thinking about something completely unrelated. Consider those possibilities when you get anxious.
5. Practice staying natural despite the feeling-
The feeling itself is not the problem. The pattern is:
Girl looks at me β I feel self-conscious β I change my behavior.
A healthier pattern is:
Girl looks at me β I feel self-conscious β I continue doing what I was already doing.
Over time, your brain learns that nothing bad happens when you’re simply being yourself.
Young, you’re already aware of the pattern, and your awareness is a strength. The next step is learning that you do not need to obey the impulse to perform. You can feel self-conscious and still act naturally. The more often you that, the weaker the self-consciousness usually becomes.
What do you think/ feel, Young?
Anita
anitaParticipantGood Saturday morning (here), Young π
Touching something an even number of times with my right hand and then with my left is what I used to do- a whole lot. As well many other rituals, all meant to balance or undo the power of “dangerous”, unwanted thoughts, aka intrusive thoughts.
I finally figured out that my thoughts are not dangerous. There’s no one outside of me that listens to my thoughts and decides to make them come true, or to punish me for them.
I’m wondering now if OCD would happen if a person fully understood that one’s thinking is really private. Unless spoken or expressed otherwise, nobody would know.. well..
For a long time, I had a sense that God knows my thoughts and would punish me for them.
But then, I figured that I mistook God for my mother. He doesn’t judge me for my thoughts or my feelings.
I no longer judge myself for any thought or feeling that crosses my mind. I judge myself for words and acts I choose to say/ type/ do.
And frankly, my private thoughts and feelings are nobody’s business to judge just as it’s not my business to judge other people’s private thoughts and feelings.
No human has only “pretty” thoughts and ” pretty” feelings all the time π€¨
Best is to notice an unwanted thought or feeling and instead of tensing- to relax, even if it’s only for a moment- letting the brain breathe, so to speak.
We can talk about this further, if what I wrote above resonates partly or fully. You can let me know, if you want to.
Thank you for expressing empathy for me. You are a very empathetic young person. Please extend that empathy more and more to yourself π
About the 2015-26 thread I mentioned, I didn’t mean that you fell out of love with your girlfriend, but that the ROCD themes it contains may resonate. It’s perfectly okay with me if you don’t read any of it.
I hope that we keep talking π
Anita
anitaParticipantHi again, Sleipnir:
“I suferred, why shouldn’t they?”-
Who are “they”, those who caused me to suffer?
I wouldn’t try to protect people who have abused me or others from suferring the consequences of their mis-behavior.
But I will go out of my way to protect future possible victims from the same abusers. And I will do my very best to not abuse anyone.
“I suferred. Why should they”-
Again, who is “they”?
π€ Anita
anitaParticipantWhat a thought-provoking post, Sleipnir, thank you! I want to think about it during the day and get back to you in the evening π€
October 16, 2026 at 12:59 pm in reply to: How do I learn to let go of Anger, after years of backstabbing and abuse? #461614
anitaParticipantHi Sleipnir:
“I want to do something so badly.”- how about writing a letter with all your concerns and sending it to whom can do something to make real changes?
π€ Anita
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