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  • in reply to: Neighbor in Cult? #78794
    Inky
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    Update:

    Talked to the wife and expressed my fears and asked her questions.

    1. Have you read up on The Watchtower organization and founder?

    2. Are you concerned that the potential for abuse is there in the Kingdom Hall because of the Watchtower organizational setup?

    3. Do you know who your Elders are? (That would predict your future). Have they ever dis-fellowshipped anyone there before? Why? Worst case scenario, what happens if only one of you gets shunned, what would you do?

    4. Will we still be friends as I am “worldly”?

    5. DH shouldn’t proselytize to me as the way he’s doing it is actually making me turn AWAY from the JWs.

    6. I’m sorry I’m bringing this up, I’m just so concerned I love you I love you I love you!!

    She TOTALLY understood and had NEVER (!) done research on the organizational set up or knew who the Elders were in her Kingdom Hall. She understood that my fears were of them being under some outer Control. She said all organizations have problems. I said that when I Google “Protestant” I don’t get “Cult” like I do for JW and that’s why I’m concerned!

    OK, thanks for letting me get this off my chest!!

    in reply to: What does a healthy long term relationship look like? #78782
    Inky
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    Hi LotusFlowerinTheMud,

    I’ve been with my DH half my life, and we couldn’t be more opposites. The artist and the engineer! The one glue that has held us together in harmony is RESPECT. Even when we disagree, I understand where he’s coming from. The only (rare) times I’ve “put my foot down” were on well being and safety issues. The rest of the times don’t matter and I’ll follow his lead (oftentimes pleasantly surprised!) and he does the same. I also let him enjoy his life/interests and he lets me enjoy mine. We meet at the end of the day and compare notes! And the weekends we are devoted to the family and each other.

    Best,

    Inky

    in reply to: Neighbor in Cult? #78735
    Inky
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    Matt, brilliant answer! I got tears in my eyes reading it! Thank you, thank you!!

    Anita, yes, that’s one of my eventual fears. Us vs. Them, “Are you with Us, or are you Them?”

    in reply to: Neighbor in Cult? #78727
    Inky
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    Hi anita,

    How did you handle Robbie? Did you eventually say, “Not for me”?

    I’m thinking (next time he brings it up) to say, “So, what’s up with all the cult warnings about JW?” and just plant the seed.

    in reply to: Neighbor in Cult? #78722
    Inky
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    I agree as I have one other JW friend (best friend’s sister). She is moderate, normal and has a brain.

    This situation is alarming to me as we have been friends for fifteen years and the contrast is just too great. (I could have written more.) They are being totally swept up in this. Critical thinking lost. I don’t want them to be eventually be totally in control of the Watchtower thought police or have the Kingdom Hall run their lives. Their decision, yes, but utterly painful to see.

    I have been polite about the proselyting but yes, the time has come to say, “I’ve done my own independent research and this isn’t for me. Please don’t waste your time on me with this, I’m just your friend and neighbor.”

    in reply to: 8 yrs depressed & distant. I left. #78711
    Inky
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    Hi crazz,

    It’s only natural to feel responsible for our spouse. That’s what marriage is for, after all, to fight back to back together against the world, if need be. You are exhausted because you have been doing all the “fighting”.

    And at least he’s trying! If you do the right thing, even for the wrong reasons, one day you may wake up and do the right things BECAUSE it’s the right thing! Only time will tell, for him.

    Hang in there (but only if you want to),

    Inky

    in reply to: How do you forget the insults of bitter exes? #78580
    Inky
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    It is so trite, but:

    1. Time heals all wounds and

    2. Living well is the best revenge.

    Nicole, I can almost promise you that in a year he will talk to and treat his current girlfriend as badly as he has to you. And that in a year after that, they won’t be together. In fact, in five years don’t be surprised if you run into her and you compare horrible notes.

    Two stories to make you feel better:

    My first love had treated me a little shabby and at his worst would say things like, “Go back to the people who love you” and crap like that. He, of course, was gorgeous. Cue fifteen years later. We see each other again. He had lost all his looks, and it looked like life had treated him about as well as he had treated me. He had a chip on his shoulder because the world may give good looking people a free pass on bad behavior, but ugly looking people the world will usually give no pass at all. I’m there with my tall, blonde, handsome, kind husband who loves me. He mutters sarcastically, looking at him: “Who wears a tie?” and stalks away.

    The second story.. Me and my sister are in a bar and my ex-brother-in-law’s now ex-girlfriend is there. We start comparing notes. We say, “No, it’s not your imagination, he is really like that”. She says he had dumped her last year and she will still get texts from him, giving her crap. At that moment her cell phone chirps. It’s him! She says, “Oh, by the way, I’m sitting here with your old sister-in-law and your ex-wife!” He hears us three burst out laughing at him! He was all, “Why are you friends?!?” He never called to bother her again!

    Chin up! You are all that and he knows it! Otherwise he wouldn’t have tried so, so hard to bring you down!!

    Karma will work out in your favor for you to see it, you’ll see!

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 5 months ago by Inky.
    in reply to: Feeling Inadequate for Good Relationship #78558
    Inky
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    Hi sandy,

    I think you’re being too hard on yourself. When you’re in a new relationship or dating, everyone puts their best foot forward. Even “10s”. And even if you’re a “5” everyone can polish up for a first date to seem like an “8” to a “10”. It’s what we do!

    1. For a date coming over to your house, OF COURSE you’ll clean up! It’s what we do when company’s coming over anyway. It gives us a chance to clean!

    2. Don’t talk about your debt or leave “WARNING: Third Notice!” envelopes out in plain sight. If you’re a student, of course you’re in debt! How can you not be? Everyone gets it and no one will talk about it, assuming you’ve got it under control. Even millionaires have debt! It’s the American Way, after all!

    3. No one talks about their family’s addiction problems until you’re already established in a relationship. And when you bring it up, guess what? The other person will offer their family’s skeletons in the closet too! No family is immune to problems. There is no perfect family.

    4. Guys don’t care if a woman’s not already established or “successful”. They just don’t, in my experience. They want someone pretty, nice, stable and supportive who gives them happiness and no drama.

    You’re not as bad as you think, and the guys out there aren’t as good as they’re projecting either.

    Have Fun!

    Inky

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    in reply to: Just graduated, got a job and very unhappy. #78510
    Inky
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    Hi Again,

    What I mean by your loneliness/isolation being excuses:

    We feel our feelings, and instead of reaching out to others or being comfortable in our own skin, we say “BUT”. i.e. “I feel isolated BUT the people around me are not very open” (therefore I’ll do nothing and stay miserable). That’s all I meant. Basically I’d rather you stay busy and active, and meet new people rather than stay depressed.

    Make a plan for people to see, things to do and places to go this very weekend.

    Good Luck!

    in reply to: Being too lenient #78508
    Inky
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    Hi jdkm,

    So let’s say you’re on a diet. But you go to an event, have a bite of birthday cake, and beat yourself up. That’s what they mean by “Don’t be so hard on yourself.” They don’t mean buying a Carvel cake and eating it all in one sitting on purpose!

    But you’re not on a diet, you’re not a bad person, you don’t have a goal. You have gone through a break up! Even if you feel you should be “over it”, it is SO common to sleep around after one! Kind of proving to yourself that you’ve still “got it”.

    I’m not sure why we have meaningless flings ~ probably a deed seated fear of being alone.

    “Don’t judge anyone, not even yourself.”

    Next time say to the guy, “I don’t go home with anyone unless there’s a commitment.” Be brave. If he leaves for sure it will re-trigger the feelings you had during the breakup. But don’t even get to that point. You are OK on your own AND a gift for any man.

    Blessings,

    Inky

    in reply to: Just graduated, got a job and very unhappy. #78480
    Inky
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    Hi anita and everyone!

    I think of my mom and step-dad when I hear “Have your goal be Here and Now”.

    So this is their life: The Grandkids, Travel, and the Power Squadron. That’s it! Every month they see all the kids/grandkids. They go on a trip for two weeks every season. And they do all their club’s activities. That’s It, Man! When nothing is going on they have their routines. No stress. No “arriving”. No “ambition”. They love those three things and they schedule them in.

    They are utterly happy. They have their goals here and now.

    in reply to: Just graduated, got a job and very unhappy. #78467
    Inky
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    Hi lotuslotus,

    I think what has happened is that you worked so hard for so long, now that you have “arrived”, you essentially crashed. You know how your body suddenly gets sick after you’ve gone through a long ordeal? When it’s “over”, the body says, “Now is the perfect time to reboot” (get sick so you can recover). You are depressed. The shyness/isolation/you miss your boyfriend ~ I’m not saying it’s not real, not at all ~ but to me they seem like mental excuses to keep yourself unhappy. Because you don’t have the energy to get into this new life of yours. The disappointment of “This is it?” now that you’ve arrived have compounded your discouragement too.

    What I would do is give it time. Work at your job with no expectations. Do things that interest you with no expectations. Join a place of worship and a gym ~ again with no expectations. Meet your neighbors. Go on local Meet Ups. Volunteer. Again, no expectations. By the end of the year take a step back and critically review your life. I bet you will happily discover you actually have several friends.

    Best,

    Inky

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    in reply to: "It's Nothing Personal" #78384
    Inky
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    Hi jw91,

    You are not alone! For the job ~ my friend had that. Over and yet under qualified. She was only brave enough to get retail jobs. (Which is also OK!) I kept encouraging her to have her own business. Even if you’re a gardener, you go to people’s houses at 5 AM and leave before they wake up. There is a demand for that. Or if you hear about people complaining or wishing they had something ~ fill it. For example, there is no one (NO ONE) in our area who can fix pool filters/motors. They can shock your pool, sure. But fixing the tiles, etc.? Forget it! So find a little niche and fill it! There is a “Bat Man” ~ a guy who is on call 24/7 to get raccoons out of your attic. These are just a few examples. Make business cards and do part time stuff until something else comes your way.

    As far as the family, I’m telling you this story to make you feel better. At family reunions there was one of my dad’s cousins. She was my absolute favorite. I loved her, and I thought she loved me. Five years later, after a particularly painful breakup, I decided to “reset” by visiting her. Well, I wasn’t as beloved as I thought! (Even now, twenty years later, I have a sneaking suspicion that another relative planted a bad seed in the cousin’s mind towards me.) The first day was wonderful! The second day was great! However, by the middle of the week I could see the collective family staring at me like, “Why is she here?” I was confused. What had I done? What hadn’t I done? Did I say something? Not say something? By the end of the week the favorite cousin yelled at me and accused me of yelling at her! She went nuts. I promptly went home and told my dad that his cousin was crazy. He was all “I know”.

    Unless you are born in a culture or raised in a particular household you will never pick up on every nuance that will make you gel right in. And believe it or not, but the program you were in WON’T let THEM take on another boarder. They lost a person because of them and YOU can give the PROGRAM a bad review! (This you CAN do!) The family is now labeled “DIFFICULT”. In fact, you can warn people via the internet about how they wouldn’t help you with the family. They could have at least helped you find another. You can even sign off, “Nothing Personal”!

    And, believe it or not, the family might be feeling some guilt. They failed to have you, after all. Maybe some of them are thinking “What’s wrong with US? Are we so set in our ways we can’t even have a guest from another culture in our house?”

    With the crazy cousin, years later I could tell she felt incredibly guilty because she was all nice to me at the next reunion. I was all grown up then, dressed up like an elegant lady and that made her second guess herself too.

    Best,

    Inky

    in reply to: Feeling lost… #78374
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    Hi lostme20x,

    This guy isn’t The One and you know it. What has happened is that his raging bad temper has become a habit. There are two ways to begin to make it better ~ I don’t recommend either one ~ I actually want you to leave. One is to physically leave the room when he starts. The other, unfortunately, is to rage back three times harder ~ make a scene, scare him. I DON’T recommend doing that. My own son had this bad habit and I terrorized him three times back, I’m afraid, to break this. But guess what? He has NEVER had a “scene” again. He literally got “Scared Straight”. I did his future girl friends and wife a favor. You NEVER, EVER rage against a woman, EVER! But my dear, you are NOT the one to teach him. He is too dangerous. One day he will get his literal azz kicked out in the real world, but YOU should be long gone!

    I don’t care if you go out with this other guy, just PLEASE give your boyfriend a well deserved Life Lesson by DUMPING HIM! Then it will be a VERY long time before he tries this with another woman! And then he’ll be dumped again. Most women won’t put up with it.

    Best,

    Inky

    in reply to: I cnt get over him #78321
    Inky
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    Hi Sutton,

    Yeah, your spelling is non-existent.

    Right now, if you’re pregnant, it’s all about the baby and not about him. And if you aren’t pregnant, lose this guy anyway, he sounds like he’s no good for you.

    Best,

    Inky

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