Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
jdkmParticipant
Yes.
All of that is literally exactly what I needed to remember. I read your comment just before meeting him yesterday, and it was such a good evening. You helped me refocus on what matters, and remember that if it doesn’t work out, that’s ok too. I felt a lot less insecure, and it came across.
Thank you ? you got exactly where I was coming from and helped me rebalance my thoughts. Thank you.
jdkmParticipantHi Matt,
You make very valid points. I think I’ve just been overdoing it because I’m also at a transition period – don’t have enough to do so lacking the motivation to do the things I need to do, not knowing what my life is going to be like in 2 months and knowing ill soon have to start saying bye to friends ill probably never see again. It should have been obvious to me but after reading your reply and thinking about it I have been slacking on the important things like drinking too much, not eating enough etc. Focusing on the ‘path of health items’ as you put it got me through the darkest time of my life so I should definitely focus on them again now rather than take the easier way as I’ve been doing.
Thank you all for your feedback, you’ve helped me be more honest with myself and hopefully I will get myself back onto a healthy track again soon.
JD
jdkmParticipantThank you both for replying!
Anita, I agree about the possible consequences of this being quite serious, but in this regard I have always been very careful, and will continue to be.
You both raise valid points. However a commitment is not an option right now as I’m in a situation where we’re all going away in a few months (we’re postgraduate students in an international university). I don’t think there is anything bad with sleeping around if you’re careful, no one is otherwise committed and intentions are made clear at the start.
My main concern has been because I feel like I’ve started craving that meaningless connection a bit too much or too often with anyone (as long as I like them physically). What I meant by saying I should be harder on myself is that I spent a lot of time working on being nice to myself, accepting imperfection, learning to love myself etc after the break up, and learnt to justify most of my actions as long as I don’t hurt anybody else, but now I feel maybe i’ve gone a bit too far and should justify less.
The answer is probably right that I should just stop like you said, but it’s turning out to not be that easy – especially as since I said, commitment is not an option right now.
Thanks again for the time you took to read this.
JDjdkmParticipantHi there,
I read this thread and everyone raises very vlaid points – I’m in somewhat of a similar situation (even though the guy is not married or has kids) so I can’t offer advice to Anyone right now. However I did want to point out that although Julia, you or someone close to you might have felt that pain you described, and that would make your feedback completely understandable.
But, I think it’s unfair to put that weight on Anyone’s shoulders. When it comes down to it, it is the man who made promises to his wife, and I believe he has the responsibility to not hurt her. I think Anyone is actually being very considerate in thiking about the consequences of her actions – to herself and others. This is her decision to make, but I strongly do not believe that she should be called selfish – the only one who is being selfish, in my opinion is the man. When two people get married they promise their lives to each other, they do not however bind everyone else around them to stay away from either member of the couple. It is the couple’s responsibility to stick to their promises.
Again, I am not advising for or against either outcome, I just believe that Anyone deserves support rather than judgement. I hope this doesn’t upset anyone as that was not the intention.
jdkmParticipantHi GK!
I cannot write much more than Belove did, because she explained things very well.
I too have been through a very painful break-up, almost a year ago now. I think the most important advice I got back then is that it will hurt – you cannot heal without feeling the pain. But, please try to remember that this pain is temporary – and a year on (and after a lot of time spent believing with all my heart that I will never get better), I am happier and I am truly starting to move on – so this too shall pass. Embrace the pain and learn all you can from it – and eventually it will start hurting less and less – i promise!
Reach out whenever you need to! You are not alone.
JDKMjdkmParticipantThank you both for your replies. I just hate knowing that there’s barely anything/anyone to come back to. Your feedback has helped though – thank you for helping me believe it will be ok.
jdkmParticipantI’d like to make a very simple suggestion – might be perceived as over-simplistic.. You sound exhausted by everything that’s going on – can you take a break? From everything? I am someone who doesn’t like sleeping – and sleeping used to cause more anxiety than peace – but I’ve recently realised what a substantial difference good sleep and rest makes. Can you take a couple of days off work, perhaps even away from your girlfriend and just do absolutely nothing? When we’re tired (not just from lack of sleep – tired from having to deal with everything all the time), we feel less capable to deal with things. A day or two of just stopping from everything might work wonders – it won’t solve the problems, but it might give you the energy to start tackling them!
Stay strong.
JDKMjdkmParticipantHey!
I have very little left to say because everyone who replied has offered so much already! I have been/am in your situation – I logged in to reply because I can feel your pain. I am far from healed, and I don’t have any answers about what will happen in the future (3 months or later). One thing that helped me become more accepting of the lack of control is this – I used to always think that I would do absolutely anything to make my relationship work, and I just couldn’t figure out the best way to fix things. At one point I realised that there is something I could do – the only thing I could do was to completely let go – to give him space to figure out his feelings, and much more importantly to take a step back for myself and work on my issues – it seemed harder and more painful than any of the other “plans of action” I had considered before. You have realised you need to work on yourself – and that’s an incredible first step. Part of healing and becoming a better person, as I have come to believe (after quite a bit of resistance), is to let go of trying to control things and ‘making’ them work, and rather, to work on healing yourself and becoming the best version of yourself possible. The worst thing that can happen is that you won’t end up together (and believe me I know that still seems unfathomable). There is no way you can be happy together now (before you work on your issues) but you’re lucky enough to have an option, you have the power to do something to be happy – work on yourself.
I know this is not as ideal as me telling you there is a magical way of fixing everything, and that I can guarantee you can get back together – but starting to realise that you can gain control of some things (your own healing) by letting go of control over other things (the relationship) will definitely help you move forward. In as scary as it is, I have come to believe that if two people are meant to be together they will end up together – if your relationship is truly as great as you believe, then the two of you will find a way (if both of you work on yourselves, are ready to grow etc.) If not, and you are working on yourself in the meantime, then you will find greater happiness even if it is not with the person you imagine. I have no guarantees, as like I said I am in the same boat – but the very best thing you can do is work on yourself – we WILL find peace and happiness if we keep trying – whatever that might look like!
Love
JDKMjdkmParticipantThank you all so much for taking the time to read, and reply to my post.
Like I had said, there are good days – the day I posted was a particularly hard day, but thankfully, these couple of days have been better. Nonetheless, while I can see clearer during the good days, the pain doesn’t really go away.
Al – I agree with everything you wrote. I have been trying very hard to practice gratitude – because it took me losing the greatest thing to start appreciating the little things that were still there, that I always took for granted. I have nothing but love for him – I can’t be angry at him because I know he tried as hard as I did to make it work – so I do wish him beautiful things – I want him to be happy. I have also been focusing on being a more positive person, because I must admit that I had a very negative outlook before. I will keep working on this every day – thank you for supporting me with what you said!
Libertymojo – I am so sorry you are going through this as well! It helped me to read that someone out there can relate to what I’m feeling – so know that you are not alone either! In the midst of the pain I agree that it is beautiful to be able to feel and love so much – perhaps the fact that we are able to feel this extent of pain is perhaps a beautiful thing in it’s own way too! I guess bearing unbearable pain (whether it is an overstatement or not) must hurt, but it will also make us stronger. Let’s hang in there together! Thank you for reaching out!
Alice – It feels so good to hear from someone who, as you said is more far along than me. Thank you for taking the time to share with me. At first I couldn’t manage to do anything – i studied (because we broke up on the eve of the first of 7 very important exams) and i slept – i couldn’t handle anything else. With some time, I started getting back into a routine – and that did help immensely. Starting new habits seems particularly effective – since the old ones obviously remind me of him – and it feels like none of the things I now do alone are as good as they used to. I will focus on this more. What you say about time reminded me of something i read – we’re constantly told to fill up our time and distract ourselves to feel better etc. – when it comes down to it however, it is only time that can heal us; everything we do in the meantime, is a way of making time pass less slowly (as during the worst days time seems to stall) – so even if habits and distractions don’t make us feel better, it’s ok because time will! I believe this. We just have to make it through some more time; although we shouldn’t take the good things we have now for granted.
Archie – We have talked this over a few times. Neither of us can imagine never being together – but neither of us knows how to make it work either. Like I mentioned in my post, we both have personal issues which came up and made it difficult for us to be together. It hasn’t been easy for either of us (I see that he’s in pain too) – but we spent more time trying to make it work, than it actually working – so we do believe that it’s the right option – even if we don’t feel ready to move on. This part of my reply is very vague – just because it’s still very confusing to me. I appreciate your honest answer – and I hope that with time I’ll be in a position to reply to you more strongly.
Thank you all once again. You have made the pain more bearable by showing me I’m not alone in my feelings! I appreciate this deeply.
JdKmjdkmParticipantI’m back here again. Since my last post, I had decided to try and stop contact from my side – I figured he wouldn’t talk to me. Alas, he did – and although I started off trying to be cold enough to make him back off, he didn’t and we’ve spent the past 3 days talking all the time again. In the meantime, I’ve been going to therapy just to help me find myself again – and the therapist kept insisting that the only way forward is if I ask my ex to come to a session. As reluctant as I was, I invited him anyway and he accepted immediately. He doesn’t believe in therapy but he was eager to come to help me – he even left work early (which is a huge deal for him) and wanted to pay for the session.
When the therapist asked him if he ever wants us to get back together – he said no. However, I knew he would, as he had said so before. The session went well enough. After the session we talked and he did say that he doesn’t not want to get back together, but he doesn’t know how it can work out. He said the reason that he doesn’t not want to get back together is that since we had something good, there’s no point in being with someone else who he doesn’t know if he can be good with. This is not enough for me. I asked him to consider going back to the therapist (who said that the only way we can move forward is with a bit of help – and I do agree, because as it is, we haven’t managed to get very far). He said no, and now he said he’ll think about it. The problem is, that I know that if he says yes, I still don’t believe it will help. If he accepts, his guard will be so high (as he insists that he doesn’t believe therapy will help – and that he feels a therapist will only be someone trying to convince him of doing something) that it won’t lead anywhere.
We both grew and changed during the relationship (as said before), and I might have as many issues to sort out as him. But I’m trying to face them, accept them and sort them out. He is not – he believes that since he’s happy alone (in that he does not need a relationship to be happy), he’s just right as he is – that there are no actual problems he needs to face. My biggest problem – and I feel I’m back at rock bottom because I ruined all the progress I had made with myself is that I can’t stop wanting it to work out in some magical way – even though I see that it can’t. Although I can control myself enough to not contact him for example, I never manage to not reply when he contacts me. If he decides that he definitely does not want to be with me – it will hurt like hell all over again, but I know I will eventually let go. The problem is that if he doesn’t decide that, I won’t manage to let go. Which doesn’t make sense, because I can see that it won’t work, and that my best option is to completely let go. I’ve never felt so unable to control something about myself – and I feel stuck.
jdkmParticipantThanks to the both of you for your touching replies – they made me cry because I never realised that other people out there could understand how I feel as both of you seem to have. I couldn’t take it anymore today and I contacted him on facebook. I made things even worse by looking up old messages – comparing how things used to be – how he used to talk to me when things were good – not just to how he talked to me today, but to how he’s talked to me ever since the first break up.
He is still, in my opinion, a beautiful person – but I have realised something today that I have never seen before. He tried to get back to where we were – and I believe that. But in looking up to him the way I always have, I never realised that he was incapable of letting himself feel that way again. I myself, put myself through turmoil – trying to analyse myself, and give everything and anything to have us back (perhaps a little much in retrospect and as discussed above since I lost myself in doing so). Even though he was trying – as much as he knew how – the first break up blocked something in him and he never pushed himself far enough to get over it. I used to see this – and he always used to say he shouldn’t have to push himself that much, and then I’d feel guilty for expecting too much. However, for the first time, I feel like the stronger one – because I managed to let myself feel to an extent that after the first break up he was always scared of. I don’t blame him – and I’ve finally stopped blaming myself. I cried for the past two hours straight – but it felt different – for the first time, it felt like I was crying over the loss of what there was in the beginning – finally accepting that it’s gone and why it didn’t come back – despite all the effort.
What we had was beautiful nonetheless – and the fact we’ve both grown into better people is, in my opinion, incredible. However, for the first time – ever – I feel I can let go. Random Writes – perhaps there is a similar reason you let yourself put so much happiness in someone else’s hands – because you were giving them your heart in a way they were incapable of doing too. Matt, I have been trying to work on myself – but now, finally, I feel I can as you said ‘care’ for myself because I’m starting to let go of the guilt of not making it work.
I do apologise if all this seemed a bit sporadic or random – I was truly touched by your feedback, and once I feel I got through another obstacle (perhaps the biggest one which I kept trying to avoid dealing with), I wanted to share it with you. I’m quite sure the pain is not over yet – and there is grieving left to be done – but that’s ok. Random Writes – congratulations – 2 days of not crying is an accomplishment – one I hope to manage to achieve myself!
Thank you both.
-
AuthorPosts